If an Olympic swimming contestant waves around a gun and is punished for it, should an Olympic shooter be sent home if he/she waves around a pair of swimming goggles?

bob(from black rock) said:

If an Olympic swimming contestant waves around a gun and is punished for it, should an Olympic shooter be sent home if he/she waves around a pair of swimming goggles?

Yes…

Yes they should…

Goggles make good slingshots.

(or so I’ve heard…)

I hope all shooters have been warned not to even touch swimming goggles.

The premise of your comments is good, but seeing as the guns they were holding would be illegal in olympic competition, the premise is flawed….

Change the goggles for a snorkel and it becomes more valid :D

Bob, I suspect I’m in agreement with you here.

I saw this in the mejjia a few days ago and thought, “WTF”. A couple of kids banging on a range, completely legal; they throw a few photos on a website, and hell comes down upon them.

Feerk. Does the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) run around and check that these lads are wearing condoms when they heaven forfend have sex?

What a bunch of wankers the AOC have become – scratch that – they’ve always been this way. A committee of total bloody wankers. I bet Dawn Fraser is shaking her head and wishing that she had a gun handy.

sibeen said:

Bob, I suspect I’m in agreement with you here.

I saw this in the mejjia a few days ago and thought, “WTF”. A couple of kids banging on a range, completely legal; they throw a few photos on a website, and hell comes down upon them.

Feerk. Does the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) run around and check that these lads are wearing condoms when they heaven forfend have sex?

What a bunch of wankers the AOC have become – scratch that – they’ve always been this way. A committee of total bloody wankers. I bet Dawn Fraser is shaking her head and wishing that she had a gun handy.

dawn fraser was condemning them on tv

So I wasn’t the only one that wondered why there was a fuss then. I’m not into guns. Very much not into guns. But I don’t understand what the problem was. They weren’t out on a public road or something. They were in a place where guns are.

>dawn fraser was condemning them on tv

Whom was Dawn condemning, the swimmers or the committee?

wookiemeister said:

sibeen said:

Bob, I suspect I’m in agreement with you here.

I saw this in the mejjia a few days ago and thought, “WTF”. A couple of kids banging on a range, completely legal; they throw a few photos on a website, and hell comes down upon them.

Feerk. Does the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) run around and check that these lads are wearing condoms when they heaven forfend have sex?

What a bunch of wankers the AOC have become – scratch that – they’ve always been this way. A committee of total bloody wankers. I bet Dawn Fraser is shaking her head and wishing that she had a gun handy.

dawn fraser was condemning them on tv

condemning?…
The interview i saw she said ‘boys will be boys’ and saw no problem with it…

I think the main problem is that there are sad individuals who aren’t happy unless they are complaining about something, and looking for anything that they can experiment with interpretations so they can take offence at, then bitch and moan about it.

Just to give the argument, they have both made complete idiots of themselves in public, displaying serious lapses in both judgement in character and (some would say) got away with bringing the Australian Olympic team into disrepute on technicalities.

I think there is probably a great deal more to this story than any of us knows – The AOC is not in the business of excluding good athletes from competition.

Rule 303 said:

The AOC is not in the business of excluding good athletes from competition.

I thought they were allowed to compete, just not party afterwards…

sibeen said:

>dawn fraser was condemning them on tv

Whom was Dawn condemning, the swimmers or the committee?

the swimmers

>Just to give the argument, they have both made complete idiots of themselves in public, displaying serious lapses in both judgement in character and (some would say) got away with bringing the Australian Olympic team into disrepute on technicalities.

In what possible way?

Arts said:

I thought they were allowed to compete, just not party afterwards…

Ahhhh.

Have a look into the history – They’re both damn lucky to have avoided serious convictions… And that’s the stuff we know about.

Dawn Fraser is hardly the poster child for exemplary behavior as an athlete.

Stumpy_seahorse said:

wookiemeister said:

sibeen said:

Bob, I suspect I’m in agreement with you here.

I saw this in the mejjia a few days ago and thought, “WTF”. A couple of kids banging on a range, completely legal; they throw a few photos on a website, and hell comes down upon them.

Feerk. Does the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) run around and check that these lads are wearing condoms when they heaven forfend have sex?

What a bunch of wankers the AOC have become – scratch that – they’ve always been this way. A committee of total bloody wankers. I bet Dawn Fraser is shaking her head and wishing that she had a gun handy.

dawn fraser was condemning them on tv

condemning?…
The interview i saw she said ‘boys will be boys’ and saw no problem with it…

she was saying something about them getting their head into what they are doing etc i switched in a nd out fairly quickly

who gives a flying fluck about a ;picture ina gun shop

nick darcy hospitalised someone – come on get real

he isn’t going to pay that fellah any money, he declared bankruptcy to get out of paying the victim so i’m told

the thing is, that for the duration of the Olympic frenzy that the media is desperately whipping up, every athlete is under scrutiny. Each and every one of them would know that and have had various discussion sessions on public conductivity.

As ‘public figures’ that represent Australia, they messed up.. as young men on holidays they did nothing in the scheme of things..

but it’s at least creating a stir…

sibeen said:

In what possible way?

In what possible way what?

Rule 303 said:

sibeen said:

In what possible way?

In what possible way what?

who’s what?

>As ‘public figures’ that represent Australia, they messed up

How in gods name did they mess up?

They were doing something that is completely legal. Jaysus, in the country they’re staying it’s almost compulsory.

Yes, they’ve both been bad boys in the past, but so what? Sins of the past and all that.

sibeen said:

>As ‘public figures’ that represent Australia, they messed up

How in gods name did they mess up?

obviously they ‘messed up’ as public figures …

I don’t really get it either.. I think it’s pretty innocuous, but they sold their soul to the Olympic committee and thus should play by the rules..

Chances are they were urged on by the photographer to pose the way they did, to get just this reaction.

The social media is an outrage bus that can att imes be too easily boarded. If they were worried about damage to the organisations reputation they should have left D’arcy off the ticket in the first place. Bloke appears to be a thug and not at all contrite for his actions. I wonder if he intends to be bankrupt for the rest of his life to avoid paying for his responsibilities?

i like that picture where the entire swimming team were behind big machine guns blazing away at a girl guides picnic that was going on nearby, it was ok because it was sanctioned by swimming australia.

my business card says i’ve been hit by nick darcy

my business card says i’ve been hit by nick darcy

Olympic swimmer Eamon Sullivan has come to the aid of besieged team-mates Nick D’Arcy and Kenrick Monk, accusing the Australian Olympic Committee (AOC) of hypocrisy.

D’Arcy and Monk have been sanctioned for posing with guns on their social websites and, as punishment, will be sent home from the London Games by the AOC as soon as their swimming events conclude.

But Sullivan is asking what the fuss is all about because in 2007 Swimming Australia took the team to a Canberra rifle range as part of a bonding session.

“They haven’t really done anything wrong,” Sullivan told Channel Nine.

“Shooting is an Olympic sport and shooters don’t get into trouble for posing in their speedos.”

He said the D’Arcy-Monk pose, brandishing high-powered weapons in a US gun shop, was just a case of “boys being boys”.

The AOC have responded to Sullivan’s comments in a press release claiming that D’Arcy and Monk have been punished for breaching their team agreements.

“Kenrick Monk and Nick D’Arcy have been sanctioned by the AOC for breaching their Team Agreement as members of the 2012 Australian Olympic Team,” the AOC said.

“The Canberra gun range visit was an initative of Swimming Australia.”

“It had nothing to do with the AOC. It was 2007, they were not members of any Olympic Team at that time.”

D’Arcy and Monk returned to Australia on Friday and quickly apologised for the photos, which appeared on Facebook and Twitter before being pulled down by Swimming Australia.

The 24-year-olds will meet with Swimming Australia officials this week.

D’Arcy is a medal hope in the 200m butterfly in London, while Monk is in the 4×200m freestyle relay team.

>>>D’Arcy is a medal hope in the 200m butterfly in London, while Monk is in the 4×200m freestyle relay team.

Wonder what would happen if they told Swimming Australia to “Bash it up your Funk and Wagnell” and pulled out of the team, and their replacements didn’t get a medal?

I can’t see what all the fuss is about. Looking like a sad white-boy try-hard ganster isn’t really bring the sport or the AOC into bad repute. It’s just looking silly on a photo.

bob(from black rock) said:

If an Olympic swimming contestant waves around a gun and is punished for it, should an Olympic shooter be sent home if he/she waves around a pair of swimming goggles?

Well, some of the Olympic shooter should be wearing googles as a safety measure. Laser safety googles that is. The air pistols will be changed to laser pistols for the 2012 games. So if the shooter can’t use real guns, why should the swimmer be able too?

Stealth said:

The air pistols will be changed to laser pistols for the 2012 games.

What a world we live in.

Why has it been changed? Light behaves differently from mass (well, at the macro level). It’s not really the same event then?