Date: 11/07/2012 18:45:58
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175114
Subject: the ABC to be privatised??

just recently i have been using the ABC news site when some articles link to “australia network news”

now this doesn’t seem too radical

BUT

what is going on is a name change and thus a de facto change in direction

it seems to me they are trying to privatise the ABC by stealth – by removing the ABC name and introducing the other they are trying to line the thing up for privatisation by stealth.

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Date: 11/07/2012 18:50:38
From: sibeen
ID: 175116
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Nick has probably decided to take over.

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Date: 11/07/2012 18:53:06
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175117
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

old nick?

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Date: 11/07/2012 18:53:40
From: Geoff D
ID: 175118
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Australia Network was Australian Television International and the ABC Asia Pacific. It is free to air satellite television in 44 countries around the Asia Pacific region, has its own reporters etc. Been going for 10 years. As Australia Network, been operating since 2006.

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Date: 11/07/2012 18:55:06
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175119
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Geoff D said:


Australia Network was Australian Television International and the ABC Asia Pacific. It is free to air satellite television in 44 countries around the Asia Pacific region, has its own reporters etc. Been going for 10 years. As Australia Network, been operating since 2006.


but it has never been used till now

i say the name change is getting rid of the australian broadcasting corporation tag

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Date: 11/07/2012 18:55:46
From: Geoff D
ID: 175120
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Australia_Network

There ya go wookie.

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Date: 11/07/2012 18:56:49
From: Geoff D
ID: 175122
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

> but it has never been used till now

F’kin bullshit. That’s what it was called when I watched it on hotel satellite TV in Saigon.

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Date: 11/07/2012 18:57:09
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175123
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

yes i understand the reasoning

i’m putting forward an idea

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Date: 11/07/2012 18:59:33
From: Geoff D
ID: 175124
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

It’s actually been going since 1993. It’s nothing new, it’s just that it is feeding some stuff back into the ‘normal’ ABC system a bit more as it matures.

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Date: 11/07/2012 19:05:21
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175126
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Geoff D said:


> but it has never been used till now

F’kin bullshit. That’s what it was called when I watched it on hotel satellite TV in Saigon.


i don’t watch tv in singapore i watch it and read it here. why use the ANN all of a sudden??

considering the abc has shut down the sssf recently i wouldn’t put anything past them

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Date: 11/07/2012 19:15:14
From: Geoff D
ID: 175130
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

wookiemeister said:

i don’t watch tv in singapore i watch it and read it here. why use the ANN all of a sudden??

considering the abc has shut down the sssf recently i wouldn’t put anything past them

I suppose it can be watched in Singapore, too. It is the vehicle by which the AFL Grand Final gets into bars in many parts of SE Asia and the Pacific and causes an evening of loud drinking and eating of specially imported pies on that one day in September.

It is like the old Radio Australia but delivered by satellite TV. It is not intended for local consumption in Australia, it is there to get Australia out into the Asia Pacific. There is no “all of a sudden”. You are seeing its byline because it is maturing and it its own journalists are starting to feed stories back into the local ABC.

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Date: 11/07/2012 19:25:21
From: Geoff D
ID: 175133
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Don’t you remember this kerfuffle earlier this year?
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2012-05-23/parliamentary-committee-to-examine-australia-network-tender/4029004

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Date: 11/07/2012 19:26:24
From: Geoff D
ID: 175135
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Following on from this?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-07/australia-network-tender-process-axed/3650798

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Date: 11/07/2012 19:36:03
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175146
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Geoff D said:


Following on from this?

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2011-11-07/australia-network-tender-process-axed/3650798


well the thing i get from that is that it will be tried on again

when the new gov gets in you’ll see this rear its head again

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Date: 11/07/2012 19:42:46
From: Geoff D
ID: 175150
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Soo, wookie, got it straight in your head yet? Australia Network is a 20 year-old Australian Government initiative currently contracted out to the ABC. In the past, I remember a time when it was a joint ABC – Channel 7 contract. It could’ve/should’ve been run by Sky. It is not part of the ABC, as such. It impinges on the ABC only so much as the ABC takes some of it’s news stories and rebroadcasts them under the Australia Network byline.

So, you have nothing to get all paranoid about.

I repeat: Australia Network is not a part of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. The Gumbint pays the ABC to run the service.

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Date: 11/07/2012 20:35:56
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175158
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Geoff D said:


Soo, wookie, got it straight in your head yet? Australia Network is a 20 year-old Australian Government initiative currently contracted out to the ABC. In the past, I remember a time when it was a joint ABC – Channel 7 contract. It could’ve/should’ve been run by Sky. It is not part of the ABC, as such. It impinges on the ABC only so much as the ABC takes some of it’s news stories and rebroadcasts them under the Australia Network byline.

So, you have nothing to get all paranoid about.

I repeat: Australia Network is not a part of the Australian Broadcasting Corporation. The Gumbint pays the ABC to run the service.


no what i’m saying is that they are getting us to a different name

until recently the ANN was NEVER used by the ABC in its online content.

i’m taking the approach that its baby steps to an end

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Date: 11/07/2012 20:36:59
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175159
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

you have to remember that they gave us some old guff about shutting the sssf recently

it doesn’t exist anymore

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Date: 12/07/2012 00:51:27
From: AussieDJ
ID: 175184
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

wookiemeister said:


you have to remember that they gave us some old guff about shutting the sssf recently

it doesn’t exist anymore


It’s still there if you want to read stuff – you just can’t post in it.

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Date: 12/07/2012 07:02:58
From: Geoff D
ID: 175213
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

wookiemeister said:


you have to remember that they gave us some old guff about shutting the sssf recently

it doesn’t exist anymore

I see no similarity between the ‘demise’ of the SSSF and the increasing journalistic profile of a well-established news network funded by the Australian Government.

You’re really talking out your arse this time.

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Date: 13/07/2012 22:58:47
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175780
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Geoff D said:


wookiemeister said:

you have to remember that they gave us some old guff about shutting the sssf recently

it doesn’t exist anymore

I see no similarity between the ‘demise’ of the SSSF and the increasing journalistic profile of a well-established news network funded by the Australian Government.

You’re really talking out your arse this time.


i look at big picture and recognise the symptoms of bad changes when i see them

they never start head on but work in small ways to make something irrelevant and unwanted as the first steps. small steps first – larger steps later when people have accepted the changes. people then just get used to the change before it kicks in.

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:00:09
From: Cymek
ID: 175781
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

My work seems to want to head down this way, privatise corrective services, not good if true

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:04:03
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175782
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Cymek said:


My work seems to want to head down this way, privatise corrective services, not good if true


they have done this already – there are private prisons here already

wackenhut i think do it

G4S Secure Solutions – Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G4S_Secure_Solutions

For the prison company formerly known as Wackenhut Corrections … It was founded as The Wackenhut Corporation in 1954, in Coral Gables, Florida, by George …

recognise G4S??? – they ballsed up the olympics

Wackenhut: Prisons, profits and golf umbrellas

Wednesday, May 30, 2001 – 10:00

BY ARUN PRADHAN

“Set against the richly variegated backdrop of history, this is the story of a unique American who started with virtually nothing and built a worldwide security empire. An extraordinary life story spanning over seven decades, as well as a compelling — and often humorous — love story that proved to be the most powerful catalyst behind his success.”

Sounding like a particularly bad late night movie, this is an extract from the authorised biography of George Wackenhut, entitled The Quiet American. George Wackenhut was a former FBI agent, the man behind the US-based Wackenhut Corporation.

All of Australia’s detention centres are owned and run by Australasian Correctional Management (ACM), a subsidiary of Wackenhut Corporation.

In a documentary screened on SBS last year, George Wackenhut welcomed Australia’s policies saying, “ really starting to punish people, as they should have done all along”. Shortly after he added, “This year we are going to make US$400 million”.

In fact on May 4, 2001 the Wackenhut Corporation reported a 12% increase in first quarter revenues to US$663.5 million. At the close of 2000 the company had received contracts to develop and manage 55 detention facilities spanning the United States, Australia, Britain, Puerto Rico, South Africa, New Zealand, Canada and the Caribbean island of Curacao, with a total of over 40,000 beds.

Conditions in the camps

One ACM worker has described the company’s Woomera Immigration Detention Centre as “like a concentration camp”. Complete with razor wire, barbed wire, steel fences and patrolling officers, it is hard to deny the comparison.

The detainees themselves are treated as criminals and are dehumanised. They are assigned numbers corresponding to the prefix of the boat they arrived on, such as “Don 27” or “Rap 180”. These were the same people who in August last year staged a desperate protest at Woomera, waving signs saying “save us from ACM”.

Other detainees are used as cheap labour by ACM. According to reports in the Sydney Morning Herald last year, inmates work in kitchens and clean toilets, often working 12 hours a week in return for a $15 or $20 phone card.

Throughout 1999 a series of scandals damaged Wackenhut in the US. In Texas, Wackenhut was stripped of a $12-million-a-year contract and fined $625,000 for failing to live up to promises in the running of a state jail.

In Fort Lauderdale, Florida, five guards at a Wackenhut work-release facility were fired or punished for having sex with inmates. In April 1999 the state of Louisiana took over the running of Wackenhut’s 15-month-old juvenile prison after the US Justice Department accused Wackenhut of subjecting its young inmates to “excessive abuse and neglect”.

In the same year a New Mexico legislative report called for a near-total revamp of prison operations, including two run by Wackenhut.

US journalist Gregory Palast commented on the case: “New Mexico’s privately operated prisons are filled with America’s impoverished, violent outcasts — and those are the guards”. He catalogued lax background checks before hiring guards, which led to several alleged cases of guards physically and sexually abusing inmates.

In the US, Wackenhut has appeared in the Federal Court 62 times since 1999, largely resulting from prisoners’ claims of human right abuses.

The company has been accused of trying to maximise profits in its private prisons at the expense of drug rehabilitation, counselling and literacy programs. In 1995 Wackenhut was investigated for diverting $700,000 intended for drug treatment programs at a Texas prison.

Diversification

According to the Wackenhut Corporation web site (<http: www.wackenhut.com="">), the company is not just about private prisons. Other areas of service include “physical security, alarms, cash-in-transit, cargo tracking, fire fighting and prevention, background checks and emergency protection”.

Wackenhut provides cheap labour for corporations: in Austin, Texas, a company which produced circuit boards initially closed down only to re-open within one of Wackenhut’s prisons. Prisoners now work in this factory producing goods for companies including IBM and Microsoft.

Wackenhut’s surveillance service has made it the target of civil liberty groups. In March 1999 a federal district court in Alabama fined Wackenhut Corporation and its client, an aerospace company, US$8 million dollars over allegations of illegal wire tapping, theft of business documents and corporate sabotage.

Wackenhut’s surveillance history can be traced back to the company’s founding in 1954. A hard-line right-winger, George Wackenhut made his money during the McCarthy period, building up and selling dossiers on suspected communists.

Frank Donner, the author of Age of Surveillance, claims that the Wackenhut Corporation added to its files after the McCarthyism hysteria had ebbed and by 1966 Wackenhut maintained files on over four million suspected dissidents.

Several Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operatives have become Wackenhut executives upon retirement, but some claim this overlap to be more extensive.

William Corbett, who worked for the CIA for 18 years, told the US-based Spy Magazine, “For years Wackenhut has been involved with the CIA and other intelligence organisations. Wackenhut would allow the CIA to occupy positions within the company clandestine operations.”

He also said that Wackenhut would supply intelligence agencies with information, and that it was compensated for this “in a quid pro quo arrangement”.

Retired FBI agent William Hinshaw also told the magazine about Wackenhut’s ease in snaring lucrative governmental contracts as being governments’ way of “pay Wackenhut for their clandestine help”.

“It is known throughout the industry that if you want a dirty job done, call Wackenhut”, Hinshaw said.

Wackenhut has successfully moved into the niche market of protecting nuclear power plants. Now servicing 26 nuclear plants, Wackenhut’s advertising material is quick to remind us of the national service they provide “in an age when threats of random vandalism, premeditated sabotage and terrorism are ever-present”.

This has put them directly at odds with anti-nuclear groups who are potential victims of Wackenhut’s “intelligence-gathering” ventures.

And of course, keep Wackenhut in mind for Christmas with its large range of products that can be bought online: George Wackenhut’s biography, golf umbrellas, swiss army knives and a complete clothing line, all proudly bearing “Wackenhut” branding.

These sometimes bizarre diversifications reflect Wackenhut’s ability to take advantage of trends in global capital as the preferred “outsourcer for the state”. Policies such as privatisation and wearing away working conditions have gone hand in hand with “law and order” crackdowns and fortress policies to protect rich First World nations from refugees.

Wackenhut Corporation should not be viewed as an anomaly or an evil corporation, so much as an effective one. Ultimately their story is simply a case study — just one particularly nasty parasite in a system that allows millions of dollars to be made from institutionalised inequality.

Wackenhut: Prisons, profits and golf umbrellas

Wednesday, May 30, 2001 – 10:00

BY ARUN PRADHAN

“Set against the richly variegated backdrop of history, this is the story of a unique American who started with virtually nothing and built a worldwide security empire. An extraordinary life story spanning over seven decades, as well as a compelling — and often humorous — love story that proved to be the most powerful catalyst behind his success.”

Sounding like a particularly bad late night movie, this is an extract from the authorised biography of George Wackenhut, entitled The Quiet American. George Wackenhut was a former FBI agent, the man behind the US-based Wackenhut Corporation.

All of Australia’s detention centres are owned and run by Australasian Correctional Management (ACM), a subsidiary of Wackenhut Corporation.

In a documentary screened on SBS last year, George Wackenhut welcomed Australia’s policies saying, “ really starting to punish people, as they should have done all along”. Shortly after he added, “This year we are going to make US$400 million”.

In fact on May 4, 2001 the Wackenhut Corporation reported a 12% increase in first quarter revenues to US$663.5 million. At the close of 2000 the company had received contracts to develop and manage 55 detention facilities spanning the United States, Australia, Britain, Puerto Rico, South Africa, New Zealand, Canada and the Caribbean island of Curacao, with a total of over 40,000 beds.

Conditions in the camps

One ACM worker has described the company’s Woomera Immigration Detention Centre as “like a concentration camp”. Complete with razor wire, barbed wire, steel fences and patrolling officers, it is hard to deny the comparison.

The detainees themselves are treated as criminals and are dehumanised. They are assigned numbers corresponding to the prefix of the boat they arrived on, such as “Don 27” or “Rap 180”. These were the same people who in August last year staged a desperate protest at Woomera, waving signs saying “save us from ACM”.

Other detainees are used as cheap labour by ACM. According to reports in the Sydney Morning Herald last year, inmates work in kitchens and clean toilets, often working 12 hours a week in return for a $15 or $20 phone card.

Throughout 1999 a series of scandals damaged Wackenhut in the US. In Texas, Wackenhut was stripped of a $12-million-a-year contract and fined $625,000 for failing to live up to promises in the running of a state jail.

In Fort Lauderdale, Florida, five guards at a Wackenhut work-release facility were fired or punished for having sex with inmates. In April 1999 the state of Louisiana took over the running of Wackenhut’s 15-month-old juvenile prison after the US Justice Department accused Wackenhut of subjecting its young inmates to “excessive abuse and neglect”.

In the same year a New Mexico legislative report called for a near-total revamp of prison operations, including two run by Wackenhut.

US journalist Gregory Palast commented on the case: “New Mexico’s privately operated prisons are filled with America’s impoverished, violent outcasts — and those are the guards”. He catalogued lax background checks before hiring guards, which led to several alleged cases of guards physically and sexually abusing inmates.

In the US, Wackenhut has appeared in the Federal Court 62 times since 1999, largely resulting from prisoners’ claims of human right abuses.

The company has been accused of trying to maximise profits in its private prisons at the expense of drug rehabilitation, counselling and literacy programs. In 1995 Wackenhut was investigated for diverting $700,000 intended for drug treatment programs at a Texas prison.

Diversification

According to the Wackenhut Corporation web site (<http: www.wackenhut.com="">), the company is not just about private prisons. Other areas of service include “physical security, alarms, cash-in-transit, cargo tracking, fire fighting and prevention, background checks and emergency protection”.

Wackenhut provides cheap labour for corporations: in Austin, Texas, a company which produced circuit boards initially closed down only to re-open within one of Wackenhut’s prisons. Prisoners now work in this factory producing goods for companies including IBM and Microsoft.

Wackenhut’s surveillance service has made it the target of civil liberty groups. In March 1999 a federal district court in Alabama fined Wackenhut Corporation and its client, an aerospace company, US$8 million dollars over allegations of illegal wire tapping, theft of business documents and corporate sabotage.

Wackenhut’s surveillance history can be traced back to the company’s founding in 1954. A hard-line right-winger, George Wackenhut made his money during the McCarthy period, building up and selling dossiers on suspected communists.

Frank Donner, the author of Age of Surveillance, claims that the Wackenhut Corporation added to its files after the McCarthyism hysteria had ebbed and by 1966 Wackenhut maintained files on over four million suspected dissidents.

Several Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operatives have become Wackenhut executives upon retirement, but some claim this overlap to be more extensive.

William Corbett, who worked for the CIA for 18 years, told the US-based Spy Magazine, “For years Wackenhut has been involved with the CIA and other intelligence organisations. Wackenhut would allow the CIA to occupy positions within the company clandestine operations.”

He also said that Wackenhut would supply intelligence agencies with information, and that it was compensated for this “in a quid pro quo arrangement”.

Retired FBI agent William Hinshaw also told the magazine about Wackenhut’s ease in snaring lucrative governmental contracts as being governments’ way of “pay Wackenhut for their clandestine help”.

“It is known throughout the industry that if you want a dirty job done, call Wackenhut”, Hinshaw said.

Wackenhut has successfully moved into the niche market of protecting nuclear power plants. Now servicing 26 nuclear plants, Wackenhut’s advertising material is quick to remind us of the national service they provide “in an age when threats of random vandalism, premeditated sabotage and terrorism are ever-present”.

This has put them directly at odds with anti-nuclear groups who are potential victims of Wackenhut’s “intelligence-gathering” ventures.

And of course, keep Wackenhut in mind for Christmas with its large range of products that can be bought online: George Wackenhut’s biography, golf umbrellas, swiss army knives and a complete clothing line, all proudly bearing “Wackenhut” branding.

These sometimes bizarre diversifications reflect Wackenhut’s ability to take advantage of trends in global capital as the preferred “outsourcer for the state”. Policies such as privatisation and wearing away working conditions have gone hand in hand with “law and order” crackdowns and fortress policies to protect rich First World nations from refugees.

Wackenhut Corporation should not be viewed as an anomaly or an evil corporation, so much as an effective one. Ultimately their story is simply a case study — just one particularly nasty parasite in a system that allows millions of dollars to be made from institutionalised inequality.

Wackenhut: Prisons, profits and golf umbrellas

Wednesday, May 30, 2001 – 10:00

BY ARUN PRADHAN

“Set against the richly variegated backdrop of history, this is the story of a unique American who started with virtually nothing and built a worldwide security empire. An extraordinary life story spanning over seven decades, as well as a compelling — and often humorous — love story that proved to be the most powerful catalyst behind his success.”

Sounding like a particularly bad late night movie, this is an extract from the authorised biography of George Wackenhut, entitled The Quiet American. George Wackenhut was a former FBI agent, the man behind the US-based Wackenhut Corporation.

All of Australia’s detention centres are owned and run by Australasian Correctional Management (ACM), a subsidiary of Wackenhut Corporation.

In a documentary screened on SBS last year, George Wackenhut welcomed Australia’s policies saying, “ really starting to punish people, as they should have done all along”. Shortly after he added, “This year we are going to make US$400 million”.

In fact on May 4, 2001 the Wackenhut Corporation reported a 12% increase in first quarter revenues to US$663.5 million. At the close of 2000 the company had received contracts to develop and manage 55 detention facilities spanning the United States, Australia, Britain, Puerto Rico, South Africa, New Zealand, Canada and the Caribbean island of Curacao, with a total of over 40,000 beds.

Conditions in the camps

One ACM worker has described the company’s Woomera Immigration Detention Centre as “like a concentration camp”. Complete with razor wire, barbed wire, steel fences and patrolling officers, it is hard to deny the comparison.

The detainees themselves are treated as criminals and are dehumanised. They are assigned numbers corresponding to the prefix of the boat they arrived on, such as “Don 27” or “Rap 180”. These were the same people who in August last year staged a desperate protest at Woomera, waving signs saying “save us from ACM”.

Other detainees are used as cheap labour by ACM. According to reports in the Sydney Morning Herald last year, inmates work in kitchens and clean toilets, often working 12 hours a week in return for a $15 or $20 phone card.

Throughout 1999 a series of scandals damaged Wackenhut in the US. In Texas, Wackenhut was stripped of a $12-million-a-year contract and fined $625,000 for failing to live up to promises in the running of a state jail.

In Fort Lauderdale, Florida, five guards at a Wackenhut work-release facility were fired or punished for having sex with inmates. In April 1999 the state of Louisiana took over the running of Wackenhut’s 15-month-old juvenile prison after the US Justice Department accused Wackenhut of subjecting its young inmates to “excessive abuse and neglect”.

In the same year a New Mexico legislative report called for a near-total revamp of prison operations, including two run by Wackenhut.

US journalist Gregory Palast commented on the case: “New Mexico’s privately operated prisons are filled with America’s impoverished, violent outcasts — and those are the guards”. He catalogued lax background checks before hiring guards, which led to several alleged cases of guards physically and sexually abusing inmates.

In the US, Wackenhut has appeared in the Federal Court 62 times since 1999, largely resulting from prisoners’ claims of human right abuses.

The company has been accused of trying to maximise profits in its private prisons at the expense of drug rehabilitation, counselling and literacy programs. In 1995 Wackenhut was investigated for diverting $700,000 intended for drug treatment programs at a Texas prison.

Diversification

According to the Wackenhut Corporation web site (<http: www.wackenhut.com="">), the company is not just about private prisons. Other areas of service include “physical security, alarms, cash-in-transit, cargo tracking, fire fighting and prevention, background checks and emergency protection”.

Wackenhut provides cheap labour for corporations: in Austin, Texas, a company which produced circuit boards initially closed down only to re-open within one of Wackenhut’s prisons. Prisoners now work in this factory producing goods for companies including IBM and Microsoft.

Wackenhut’s surveillance service has made it the target of civil liberty groups. In March 1999 a federal district court in Alabama fined Wackenhut Corporation and its client, an aerospace company, US$8 million dollars over allegations of illegal wire tapping, theft of business documents and corporate sabotage.

Wackenhut’s surveillance history can be traced back to the company’s founding in 1954. A hard-line right-winger, George Wackenhut made his money during the McCarthy period, building up and selling dossiers on suspected communists.

Frank Donner, the author of Age of Surveillance, claims that the Wackenhut Corporation added to its files after the McCarthyism hysteria had ebbed and by 1966 Wackenhut maintained files on over four million suspected dissidents.

Several Central Intelligence Agency (CIA) operatives have become Wackenhut executives upon retirement, but some claim this overlap to be more extensive.

William Corbett, who worked for the CIA for 18 years, told the US-based Spy Magazine, “For years Wackenhut has been involved with the CIA and other intelligence organisations. Wackenhut would allow the CIA to occupy positions within the company clandestine operations.”

He also said that Wackenhut would supply intelligence agencies with information, and that it was compensated for this “in a quid pro quo arrangement”.

Retired FBI agent William Hinshaw also told the magazine about Wackenhut’s ease in snaring lucrative governmental contracts as being governments’ way of “pay Wackenhut for their clandestine help”.

“It is known throughout the industry that if you want a dirty job done, call Wackenhut”, Hinshaw said.

Wackenhut has successfully moved into the niche market of protecting nuclear power plants. Now servicing 26 nuclear plants, Wackenhut’s advertising material is quick to remind us of the national service they provide “in an age when threats of random vandalism, premeditated sabotage and terrorism are ever-present”.

This has put them directly at odds with anti-nuclear groups who are potential victims of Wackenhut’s “intelligence-gathering” ventures.

And of course, keep Wackenhut in mind for Christmas with its large range of products that can be bought online: George Wackenhut’s biography, golf umbrellas, swiss army knives and a complete clothing line, all proudly bearing “Wackenhut” branding.

These sometimes bizarre diversifications reflect Wackenhut’s ability to take advantage of trends in global capital as the preferred “outsourcer for the state”. Policies such as privatisation and wearing away working conditions have gone hand in hand with “law and order” crackdowns and fortress policies to protect rich First World nations from refugees.

Wackenhut Corporation should not be viewed as an anomaly or an evil corporation, so much as an effective one. Ultimately their story is simply a case study — just one particularly nasty parasite in a system that allows millions of dollars to be made from institutionalised inequality.

http://www.greenleft.org.au/node/24971

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:05:19
From: party_pants
ID: 175783
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

too long Wookie;
Wookie that’s just way too long

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:07:20
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175785
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

party_pants said:


too long Wookie;
Wookie that’s just way too long

it was one quote that got copied twice

private prisons shouldn’t exist

punishment for crime should always be a state venture – not a money making venture

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:08:56
From: Cymek
ID: 175787
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Can’t say I agree with private prisons, don’t trust humanity enough to make them work properly

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:09:02
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175788
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

wookiemeister said:


party_pants said:

too long Wookie;
Wookie that’s just way too long

it was one quote that got copied twice

private prisons shouldn’t exist

punishment for crime should always be a state venture – not a money making venture


i mean do we have a privately run justice system

if judges were holding court privately wouldn’t they be making legal decisions for the interest of their employer?

its not in the interest of the state to have privately run prisons.

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:09:05
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175789
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

wookiemeister said:


party_pants said:

too long Wookie;
Wookie that’s just way too long

it was one quote that got copied twice

private prisons shouldn’t exist

punishment for crime should always be a state venture – not a money making venture


i mean do we have a privately run justice system

if judges were holding court privately wouldn’t they be making legal decisions for the interest of their employer?

its not in the interest of the state to have privately run prisons.

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:10:57
From: Cymek
ID: 175790
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

if judges were holding court privately wouldn’t they be making legal decisions for the interest of their employer?

Going by what I see with sentence outcomes I do wonder if they are under political pressure to not jail people who are a public risk

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:11:39
From: party_pants
ID: 175791
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

wookiemeister said:


it was one quote that got copied twice

private prisons shouldn’t exist

punishment for crime should always be a state venture – not a money making venture


I agree with you on that one.

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:15:46
From: Cymek
ID: 175792
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

party_pants said:


wookiemeister said:

it was one quote that got copied twice

private prisons shouldn’t exist

punishment for crime should always be a state venture – not a money making venture


I agree with you on that one.

It may be cheaper to have them run privately, it costs about 70,000 per prisoner for a year

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:16:25
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175793
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Cymek said:


if judges were holding court privately wouldn’t they be making legal decisions for the interest of their employer?

Going by what I see with sentence outcomes I do wonder if they are under political pressure to not jail people who are a public risk


like assange who is a political risk rather than a public one

i don’t really see how our society functions anymore

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:18:54
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175794
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Cymek said:


party_pants said:

wookiemeister said:

it was one quote that got copied twice

private prisons shouldn’t exist

punishment for crime should always be a state venture – not a money making venture


I agree with you on that one.

It may be cheaper to have them run privately, it costs about 70,000 per prisoner for a year


but when you start getting private companies making money from having lots of prisoners then it becomes a political problem

they start to bribe MPs to make harsh mandatory sentencing for everything – its why america has lost the plot.

if you are making money from the prison system then ultimately it makes financial sense to have as many prisoners as possible until the public that pays for the prison system is all in prison – legally

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:22:19
From: Cymek
ID: 175795
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

they start to bribe MPs to make harsh mandatory sentencing for everything – its why america has lost the plot.

For violence yes but not for petty stuff, like stealing, drug possession (not selling) don’t get me started on drug illegality, one war that will never be won

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:23:32
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175796
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

if you are a private company making millions from private prisons you support candidates that will make you rich

its like any business or foreign espionage ring set up to control an entire state

foreign spies will often harness the political arena to acheive their goals – read the end part of “the art of war” – the fifth column.

it describes that by controlling the heads of state you win the war – this book was adopted by managers a while back because it teaches that to take over a company you can simply bribe your way to take it over. by bribing key players you can beat the competition. you can also just destroy a company by paying a key manager to do a stupid thing or promote a very stupid thing.

nick whitlam (gough whitlams son) destroyed the NRMA for example – this a prime example of the fifth column in action

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:27:32
From: Cymek
ID: 175798
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

it describes that by controlling the heads of state you win the war – this book was adopted by managers a while back because it teaches that to take over a company you can simply bribe your way to take it over. by bribing key players you can beat the competition. you can also just destroy a company by paying a key manager to do a stupid thing or promote a very stupid thing.

Gina Reinhart’s plan for WA I think

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:30:23
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175800
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Cymek said:


they start to bribe MPs to make harsh mandatory sentencing for everything – its why america has lost the plot.

For violence yes but not for petty stuff, like stealing, drug possession (not selling) don’t get me started on drug illegality, one war that will never be won


governments normally punish the motorist harsher than any real offender

a motorist can be fined – qld makes 1 million a day from vehicle fines.

an offender will cost the state money – its why you see known offenders walk from gaol with NO fine!!

it is much better to concentrate on law abiding people than the criminal because to deal with the criminal element costs money, dealing with the law abiding makes money.

can you think why so many pedophiles and related offenders are in the streets , why so many hard drug dealers are back on the street? its cheaper. violent criminals will normally be back on the street in no time. if you don;t actually kill someone then you have a good chance of getting off – look at “nick” d’arcy (thoough he did get fined did he ever pay it???)

there was some kid killed in kings cross in sydney recently – the person who did this will

1 have a history of violence

2 is known to the police

3 will have some record somewhere.

they just let him out to do his work

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:31:58
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175803
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Cymek said:


it describes that by controlling the heads of state you win the war – this book was adopted by managers a while back because it teaches that to take over a company you can simply bribe your way to take it over. by bribing key players you can beat the competition. you can also just destroy a company by paying a key manager to do a stupid thing or promote a very stupid thing.

Gina Reinhart’s plan for WA I think


well yes

when you have lots of money you can bribe the state to do anything you want because you control the ley players that make everything “legal”

gina rhinehart is a threat to the state.

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:32:52
From: Cymek
ID: 175805
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

can you think why so many pedophiles and related offenders are in the streets , why so many hard drug dealers are back on the street? its cheaper. violent criminals will normally be back on the street in no time. if you don;t actually kill someone then you have a good chance of getting off – look at “nick” d’arcy (thoough he did get fined did he ever pay it???)

Pretty much, DV cases are an example, cost too much to lock the fucks up and some are as nasty as hell (men and women)
I am not talking a punch but attacks with weapons and put on orders they don’t complete, where is the victims right for protection

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:35:36
From: Cymek
ID: 175806
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

<<gina rhinehart="" is="" a="" threat="" to="" the="" state.="">>

I think so, WA is dependent on her income and people forget that whilst we are making umpteen billions how much does China have to spend and eventually own WA. I don’t blame them its the smart move I blame the short sighted nature of business and politics for allowing it to happen

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:38:28
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175808
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

Cymek said:


can you think why so many pedophiles and related offenders are in the streets , why so many hard drug dealers are back on the street? its cheaper. violent criminals will normally be back on the street in no time. if you don;t actually kill someone then you have a good chance of getting off – look at “nick” d’arcy (thoough he did get fined did he ever pay it???)

Pretty much, DV cases are an example, cost too much to lock the fucks up and some are as nasty as hell (men and women)
I am not talking a punch but attacks with weapons and put on orders they don’t complete, where is the victims right for protection


if you are attacked by someone in public you should use the maximum force necessary – killing them if necessary to prevent damage to yourself

you can always defend yourself in court afterwards

if attacked in public you should use ALL means necessary to stop serious injury.

the people who do this ALWAYS have previous history.

you can lessen the chance of an attack by not visiting places known for crime of this nature and not living near known certain people. living with your own kind will always pay dividends.

i moved away from sydney years ago – there are too many competing ethnic groups and criminal gangs operating from that place to ever make it safe to live in. people just got used to living with it.

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Date: 13/07/2012 23:46:03
From: wookiemeister
ID: 175811
Subject: re: the ABC to be privatised??

normally if you are attacked in public it will be someone working in a group

many of these charcters rarely work alone – they work as a gang to lessen the chance of reprisal

they will normally attack from behind (which means all your kung fu aint going to help you)

its safer not being in areas where they are known to operate full with the full knowledge of the law

the police are known to allow drug dealers to attack the public because they need them to provide information. they are known to be in cahoots with the drug dealers because it suits them to be.

you are normally attacked by these people if they feel you are an easy mark, they will attack from the front in this case but unexpectedly as in the recent sydney case – it happens all the time.

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