a few people have mentioned to me that they are getting less money with the new tax year

any takers?

wookiemeister said:

a few people have mentioned to me that they are getting less money with the new tax year

any takers?

I should be able to tell you in about half an hour.

someone has just told me that are paying more tax

paid less for doing the same thing – more taxes

about 5 bucks less

so the drain goes on

Don’t know. I get a payrise effective 1 July, so it will be hard to know if I’m earning more or less because of the carbon price. Haven’t had my first pay for the new fin year yet anyway.

I got my gas bill yesterday. The carbon price levy for 4 days worked out to the princely sum of 39 cents out of a total bill of $212.50

party_pants said:

Don’t know. I get a payrise effective 1 July, so it will be hard to know if I’m earning more or less because of the carbon price. Haven’t had my first pay for the new fin year yet anyway.

I got my gas bill yesterday. The carbon price levy for 4 days worked out to the princely sum of 39 cents out of a total bill of $212.50

yeah but thats just one bill

how many bills do you pay a year?

everytime you pay for something carbon tax cuts in

its GST by stealth

because everything runs on fossil fuels you are taxing everything

if you are paying gst for something you can’t be paying another tax as well its one or the other

you’ll be pleased to know that your council rates will be including carbon tax too.

i’ve just seen that spain is pushing its VAT/GST to 21 percent!! no wonder they are fucked

the english destroyed themselves by putting up gst/vat to 20 percent last year i think

carbon tax is designed to take down the middle class

lets put it this way

if you are running a shop, what will happen when people start paying more tax and being paid less wages??

people stop visiting your shop, you sack your staff, cut back on purchases and eventually go out of business.

you and your family can now live under a new paradigm

if the gov simply told people they were going to tax them back to the stone age they would continue losing by a close margin in elections (people are stupid – even when they kicked in the face they will keep asking for more)

every tax will do you damage

Yeah, an extra 10c per day on my gas bill is going to drive me to ruin. Goodbye middle-class and hello poverty.

OK. I can refute it. My part-time staff member got a pay increase of $20 per week. The tax to pay is $7 less than what she paid on the old pay. So she is $27 per week in hand better off.

We are not talking very high paid people here, around $30,000pa. But in this district if you go over $50,000pa you are doing well. So we are used to dealing with living comfortably without frills.

Well, my tax CUT is in….less than 1%, 0.8% to be exact (net)

Ah gee, woop-de-do, net benefit….zero, as far as i’m concerned it’s a token gesture as it will be gobbled up by inflation, probably by the end of the month. (or a tax increase somewhere else).

meanwhile…..
Julia & Tony recieve a 31% pay rise….

From SMH, hopefully their reporting is accurate:

The tribunal recommends increasing the basic backbencher’s salary by $44,090 a year from $140,910 to $185,000.

Ms Gillard’s salary will rise more than $114,000, taking her pay from $366,366 to $481,000.

And Mr Abbott will get an extra $81,564, lifting his salary from $260,684 to $342,250.

These wage increases are more than 10 times the annual 3 per cent indexation handed to most average earners. But they are dwarfed in percentage terms by those handed to shadow ministers.

Opposition frontbenchers are paid the same as backbenchers but the tribunal has recognised they do a lot more work and should be paid for it.

Consequently, a shadow cabinet minister’s pay will jump from $140,910 to $231,250, an increase of $90,340, or 64 per cent.

Christopher Pyne, who is shadow minister and the manager of opposition business, will receive $235,875 a year, an increase of $94,965, or a 67 per cent pay rise.

The tribunal president John Conde said the pay increases were justified but would inevitable attract public criticism.Ah, yeah, damn straight

The nation’s 19 departmental secretaries will receive massive pay increases. All will receive more than the Prime Minister.

The lowest paid secretary will have their pay increased from $570,000 to $650,000 over two years while the head of Ms Gillard’s department, Ian Watt, will jump from $620,000 to $825,000.

Some of those pay increases are a little obscene.
At least MP’s are losing some of their perks, such as lifetime gold travel pass and free “overseas study” trip every three years…

…Um, our wage tax cut was due to Julia’s “new carbon tax” anyway….so yeah, net benefit…zero
The “value” of our “hard earned” is being continually eroded.

OK. I can refute it. My part-time staff member got a pay increase of $20 per week.

hope you made her work for it … and say thank you.

It’s all swings and roundabouts..

<—— They get zarkov.. we get wookie

Ian said:

It’s all swings and roundabouts..

Until someone falls off.

Ian said:

<—— They get zarkov.. we get wookie

we got the better deal.

Ian said:

It’s all swings and roundabouts..

…smoke and mirrors

Aquila said:

Well, my tax CUT is in….less than 1%, 0.8% to be exact (net)

Ah gee, woop-de-do, net benefit….zero, as far as i’m concerned it’s a token gesture as it will be gobbled up by inflation, probably by the end of the month. (or a tax increase somewhere else).

meanwhile…..
Julia & Tony recieve a 31% pay rise….

From SMH, hopefully their reporting is accurate:

The tribunal recommends increasing the basic backbencher’s salary by $44,090 a year from $140,910 to $185,000.

Ms Gillard’s salary will rise more than $114,000, taking her pay from $366,366 to $481,000.

And Mr Abbott will get an extra $81,564, lifting his salary from $260,684 to $342,250.

These wage increases are more than 10 times the annual 3 per cent indexation handed to most average earners. But they are dwarfed in percentage terms by those handed to shadow ministers.

Opposition frontbenchers are paid the same as backbenchers but the tribunal has recognised they do a lot more work and should be paid for it.

Consequently, a shadow cabinet minister’s pay will jump from $140,910 to $231,250, an increase of $90,340, or 64 per cent.

Christopher Pyne, who is shadow minister and the manager of opposition business, will receive $235,875 a year, an increase of $94,965, or a 67 per cent pay rise.

The tribunal president John Conde said the pay increases were justified but would inevitable attract public criticism.Ah, yeah, damn straight

The nation’s 19 departmental secretaries will receive massive pay increases. All will receive more than the Prime Minister.

The lowest paid secretary will have their pay increased from $570,000 to $650,000 over two years while the head of Ms Gillard’s department, Ian Watt, will jump from $620,000 to $825,000.

Some of those pay increases are a little obscene.
At least MP’s are losing some of their perks, such as lifetime gold travel pass and free “overseas study” trip every three years…

madness

it shows you what happenbes when you can’t get anyone to run for office of sound mind

rome suffered its fools for centuries until they put an entire civilisation out of business permanently

i think there might be the need for a third viable party (katter and the greens are idiots)

Ian said:

<—— They get zarkov.. we get wookie

you’ll find that my understanding of the economy is based on fact rather than opinion

the fact is that in the new tax year without any wage rise you’ll be paying more tax in real terms rather than hypotheticallly less tax

people having been falling for the guff for years

thankfully i moved jobs a few months ago and now earn 100 bucks a week more and get PAID for any overtime (my last job only wanted to give me time off in lieu and reneged on every wage deal they ever made with me. there were some perks to the job but the fact was that inthe end i couldn’t afford to work like this and given the tax rises that have come into effect i had to act sooner rather than later). how long it will last is anyones guess and in the meantime i’m just building a reserve of money to protect me from unemployment.

thinking further down the track i’ll probably be moving from the state i live in in the near future because the whole thing was run into the ground and isn’t looking too rosy – any chance for advancement isn’t possible if you don’t live in the main capital. what i’ll have to do then is rent this place out and up stakes and rent somewhere else for a while. at least i’ll be able to go back to tafe and complete my diploma and get some kind of para professional wages somewhere. if you aren’t continually retraining for something you are going backwards. the mining job.