Date: 21/08/2012 12:46:33
From: bluegreen
ID: 189918
Subject: Sage Thoughts
I’ll kick this off.
I use sage in Sage and Onion stuffing for roast chicken – not much use for you vegetarians though.
Use as an ingredient in mixed herbs.
The thing to do on Masterchef it seems is sage leaves crisped in butter or oil and used with pasta (see Gnocchi with burnt sage butter). I reckon it would be yum with mushrooms fried in butter too.
Generally speaking sage goes well with fatty meats (helps with digestion.)
Can be drunk as a tea – good to gargle when you have a sore throat.
I see it as one of my essential herbs to grow.
Date: 21/08/2012 13:07:14
From: buffy
ID: 189921
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
I’ve always grown sage, and only ever used it very, very sparingly. Like rosemary, it is a very strong taste. But I usually snip a tiny bit into my herb butter when I am making it.
Date: 21/08/2012 15:13:14
From: Dinetta
ID: 189970
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
I grew it about 3 years ago, just loved crushing the leaves and sniffing. Like Rosemary and Basil, it’s a bit strongly aromatic…gee I miss my herb garding, need to contain the chookens first…
sorry, replied to the chat thread…
Date: 21/08/2012 15:27:34
From: Happy Potter
ID: 189981
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
Right, they’ve alowed me back in , yay.
I did type quite a post on using sage but it dissapeared..
Take two..
I use chopped sage in meatloves sausage rolls, kiev garlic butter mix, on foccacia, whole in pasta and veges.
I par boil spuds then lightly crush and drizzle with bugger and chopped sage leaves and roast. Yum
Date: 21/08/2012 16:13:11
From: painmaster
ID: 189990
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
I have done the fried sage thingo and added it to a pasta dish. Its alright.
Date: 21/08/2012 16:35:46
From: pomolo
ID: 189995
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
bluegreen said:
I’ll kick this off.
I use sage in Sage and Onion stuffing for roast chicken – not much use for you vegetarians though.
Use as an ingredient in mixed herbs.
The thing to do on Masterchef it seems is sage leaves crisped in butter or oil and used with pasta (see Gnocchi with burnt sage butter). I reckon it would be yum with mushrooms fried in butter too.
Generally speaking sage goes well with fatty meats (helps with digestion.)
Can be drunk as a tea – good to gargle when you have a sore throat.
I see it as one of my essential herbs to grow.
I’ve seen them use sage leaves between thin sheets of fresh pasta. It certainly looked good but can’t say about the taste.
Date: 21/08/2012 16:47:11
From: justin
ID: 189998
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
Happy Potter said:
Right, they’ve alowed me back in , yay.
I did type quite a post on using sage but it dissapeared..
Take two..
I use chopped sage in meatloves sausage rolls, kiev garlic butter mix, on foccacia, whole in pasta and veges.
I par boil spuds then lightly crush and drizzle with bugger and chopped sage leaves and roast. Yum
i grow it because i like the salvias – their colours really – but it goes to waste here
i never use it except as an ineffectual ingredient in soup but
- fried in butter (bugger?LOL) – then burnt butter added to spuds
seem likes an easy ways of using it that i can manage tonight.
Date: 21/08/2012 17:18:06
From: bluegreen
ID: 190005
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
Happy Potter said:
and drizzle with bugger
???????
butter I presume :P
Date: 21/08/2012 18:37:36
From: Happy Potter
ID: 190061
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
bluegreen said:
Happy Potter said:
and drizzle with bugger
???????
butter I presume :P
Haha, yes, butter!
Date: 21/08/2012 20:51:22
From: justin
ID: 190072
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
justin said:
Happy Potter said:
Right, they’ve alowed me back in , yay.
I did type quite a post on using sage but it dissapeared..
Take two..
I use chopped sage in meatloves sausage rolls, kiev garlic butter mix, on foccacia, whole in pasta and veges.
I par boil spuds then lightly crush and drizzle with bugger and chopped sage leaves and roast. Yum
i grow it because i like the salvias – their colours really – but it goes to waste here
i never use it except as an ineffectual ingredient in soup but
- fried in butter (bugger?LOL) – then burnt butter added to spuds
seem likes an easy ways of using it that i can manage tonight.
I did it – but – i didn’t do enuff of it.
i used about 12 small leaves of sage that cooked down to a minute amount and had no discernable taste.
so – next time i’ll use 2 handfuls of it.
cyas
Date: 22/08/2012 00:00:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 190210
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
I came seeking wisdom and found .. not a lot.
Have you tried it in a lentil loaf?
Date: 22/08/2012 08:35:05
From: bluegreen
ID: 190226
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
roughbarked said:
I came seeking wisdom and found .. not a lot.
lol!
Date: 22/08/2012 13:04:12
From: justin
ID: 190291
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
roughbarked said:
I came seeking wisdom and found .. not a lot.
Have you tried it in a lentil loaf?
nope – i’ll check for recipes. i did sleep soundly last night, altho’ that might have been the work i did on cutting down the almond tree.
calling a herb sage is interesting – can you eat sage and become wise?
Date: 22/08/2012 13:42:08
From: Dinetta
ID: 190300
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
The ancients thought that you could…hence “sagacious” for “Wise”…I have lavender and sage melts and candles, they are by far my favourite room scenters and I don’t know about wise but I think more clearly with that aroma…
Date: 22/08/2012 20:59:46
From: justin
ID: 190460
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
Dinetta said:
The ancients thought that you could…hence “sagacious” for “Wise”…I have lavender and sage melts and candles, they are by far my favourite room scenters and I don’t know about wise but I think more clearly with that aroma…
the moderns ( disney at least) think spinach will improve (popeye’s) strength.
i doubt both claims because – eating your way to wisdom seems ludicrously easy – and spinach is in such abundance that we would challenge ants in lifting capacity.
nonetheless herbs were once medicines before we overindulged in them – so we probably don’t pay them enough respect.
Date: 22/08/2012 23:08:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 190578
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
justin said:
Dinetta said:
The ancients thought that you could…hence “sagacious” for “Wise”…I have lavender and sage melts and candles, they are by far my favourite room scenters and I don’t know about wise but I think more clearly with that aroma…
the moderns ( disney at least) think spinach will improve (popeye’s) strength.
i doubt both claims because – eating your way to wisdom seems ludicrously easy – and spinach is in such abundance that we would challenge ants in lifting capacity.
nonetheless herbs were once medicines before we overindulged in them – so we probably don’t pay them enough respect.
Sage is used as a gargle for inflammation of mouth and throat. Is also effective in gum prblems.
In the middle ages it was taken as an invigorating agent. Has beneficial effect on the digestive tract, inflammatory processes of the air passages, liver problems and is used to counteract the effect of night sweats of pul;monary disease victims.
Is also used to spice legume dishes as well as fowl, game and fish.
Date: 23/08/2012 09:58:44
From: Dinetta
ID: 190651
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
justin said:
the moderns ( disney at least) think spinach will improve (popeye’s) strength.
i doubt both claims because – eating your way to wisdom seems ludicrously easy – and spinach is in such abundance that we would challenge ants in lifting capacity.
It turns out there was a decimal place misplaced in the “original” report about the relationship between spinach and strength…I’m sure boring old Snopes, that’s killed many a fun “argument just for the heck of it” argument, will set us right on this…
justin said:
nonetheless herbs were once medicines before we overindulged in them – so we probably don’t pay them enough respect.
We certainly don’t…and it’s a shame really…
Date: 23/08/2012 12:26:43
From: Happy Potter
ID: 190677
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
Dinetta said:
justin said:
the moderns ( disney at least) think spinach will improve (popeye’s) strength.
i doubt both claims because – eating your way to wisdom seems ludicrously easy – and spinach is in such abundance that we would challenge ants in lifting capacity.
It turns out there was a decimal place misplaced in the “original” report about the relationship between spinach and strength…I’m sure boring old Snopes, that’s killed many a fun “argument just for the heck of it” argument, will set us right on this…
justin said:
nonetheless herbs were once medicines before we overindulged in them – so we probably don’t pay them enough respect.
We certainly don’t…and it’s a shame really…
I’m learning about them just now and have upped my herb intake and want to grow what ones I can here. I’ve included bananas in my daily diet, but not my favourite taste.
Date: 23/08/2012 12:40:05
From: justin
ID: 190680
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
Happy Potter said:
Dinetta said:
justin said:
the moderns ( disney at least) think spinach will improve (popeye’s) strength.
i doubt both claims because – eating your way to wisdom seems ludicrously easy – and spinach is in such abundance that we would challenge ants in lifting capacity.
It turns out there was a decimal place misplaced in the “original” report about the relationship between spinach and strength…I’m sure boring old Snopes, that’s killed many a fun “argument just for the heck of it” argument, will set us right on this…
justin said:
nonetheless herbs were once medicines before we overindulged in them – so we probably don’t pay them enough respect.
We certainly don’t…and it’s a shame really…
I’m learning about them just now and have upped my herb intake and want to grow what ones I can here. I’ve included bananas in my daily diet, but not my favourite taste.
so many plants are ‘herbs’
i have started using fennel, jalapeno peppers and coriander this year.
parsley, dill, oregano, marjoram and thyme have been regulars for years.
we only use rosemary with potato wedges afaik.
Date: 23/08/2012 12:40:13
From: bluegreen
ID: 190681
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
Happy Potter said:
Dinetta said:
justin said:
the moderns ( disney at least) think spinach will improve (popeye’s) strength.
i doubt both claims because – eating your way to wisdom seems ludicrously easy – and spinach is in such abundance that we would challenge ants in lifting capacity.
It turns out there was a decimal place misplaced in the “original” report about the relationship between spinach and strength…I’m sure boring old Snopes, that’s killed many a fun “argument just for the heck of it” argument, will set us right on this…
justin said:
nonetheless herbs were once medicines before we overindulged in them – so we probably don’t pay them enough respect.
We certainly don’t…and it’s a shame really…
I’m learning about them just now and have upped my herb intake and want to grow what ones I can here. I’ve included bananas in my daily diet, but not my favourite taste.
as a general rule I think of them as concentrated veges! As they are concentrated in flavour & oils etc. I figure they are concentrated in vitamins and minerals and a little bit goes a long way. having said that I still probably don’t eat as much as I think I should.
Date: 23/08/2012 12:46:44
From: justin
ID: 190683
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
so many plants are ‘herbs’
i have started using fennel, jalapeno peppers and coriander this year.
parsley, dill, oregano, marjoram and thyme have been regulars for years.
we only use rosemary with potato wedges afaik.
—————
garlic and ginger as well – mostly fried with onion.
we make tea with lemon verbena and lemon balm.
Date: 23/08/2012 12:56:47
From: Happy Potter
ID: 190687
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
justin said:
Happy Potter said:
Dinetta said:
We certainly don’t…and it’s a shame really…
I’m learning about them just now and have upped my herb intake and want to grow what ones I can here. I’ve included bananas in my daily diet, but not my favourite taste.
so many plants are ‘herbs’
i have started using fennel, jalapeno peppers and coriander this year.
parsley, dill, oregano, marjoram and thyme have been regulars for years.
we only use rosemary with potato wedges afaik.
Yes there’s the regulars I’ve always used. I’ve increased tumeric garlic and cinnamon and looking up what dishes to add an increased amount in. lol I hope that makes sense.
Date: 23/08/2012 17:03:52
From: painmaster
ID: 190722
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
roughbarked said:
justin said:
Dinetta said:
The ancients thought that you could…hence “sagacious” for “Wise”…I have lavender and sage melts and candles, they are by far my favourite room scenters and I don’t know about wise but I think more clearly with that aroma…
the moderns ( disney at least) think spinach will improve (popeye’s) strength.
i doubt both claims because – eating your way to wisdom seems ludicrously easy – and spinach is in such abundance that we would challenge ants in lifting capacity.
nonetheless herbs were once medicines before we overindulged in them – so we probably don’t pay them enough respect.
Sage is used as a gargle for inflammation of mouth and throat. Is also effective in gum prblems.
In the middle ages it was taken as an invigorating agent. Has beneficial effect on the digestive tract, inflammatory processes of the air passages, liver problems and is used to counteract the effect of night sweats of pul;monary disease victims.
Is also used to spice legume dishes as well as fowl, game and fish.
So I should be introducing my PNGean friends to Sage?
Date: 23/08/2012 18:52:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 190770
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
painmaster said:
roughbarked said:
justin said:
the moderns ( disney at least) think spinach will improve (popeye’s) strength.
i doubt both claims because – eating your way to wisdom seems ludicrously easy – and spinach is in such abundance that we would challenge ants in lifting capacity.
nonetheless herbs were once medicines before we overindulged in them – so we probably don’t pay them enough respect.
Sage is used as a gargle for inflammation of mouth and throat. Is also effective in gum prblems.
In the middle ages it was taken as an invigorating agent. Has beneficial effect on the digestive tract, inflammatory processes of the air passages, liver problems and is used to counteract the effect of night sweats of pul;monary disease victims.
Is also used to spice legume dishes as well as fowl, game and fish.
So I should be introducing my PNGean friends to Sage?
No..
It isn’t dry enough in PNG. They would have an alternative, if they knew what to look for.
Date: 24/08/2012 14:50:11
From: justin
ID: 191160
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
now that sage is exhausted there is another herb that i have never used properly
tarragon
ant thoughts? – how to use – how and when to grow?
Date: 24/08/2012 15:11:01
From: bon008
ID: 191170
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
justin said:
now that sage is exhausted there is another herb that i have never used properly
tarragon
ant thoughts? – how to use – how and when to grow?
I have a lifelong grudge against tarragon – based on one single childhood meal. Perhaps one day I will give it another chance – be interested to see what others use it for.
Date: 24/08/2012 15:11:58
From: bluegreen
ID: 191171
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
justin said:
now that sage is exhausted there is another herb that i have never used properly
tarragon
ant thoughts? – how to use – how and when to grow?
not one I have used much myself, but…
Just read in this month’s CWA magazine an article on “Fines herbes”, a combination of parsley, chives (onion), chervil and tarragon. “These four herbs, combined, create a taste that is unlike any of the individual herbs, bringing out the sweetness of mildly flavoured cram based recipes, while also adding a savory note. Traditionally fines herbes are used with egg, dairy and seafood dishes and are also delicious with potatoes and rice.” The bit about growing tarragon says, “French type best for flavour which can only be grown by root division. Want leaf growth and strong root system. Likes full sun and needs good drainage. Can be dried.”
Date: 24/08/2012 19:16:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 191279
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
bluegreen said:
justin said:
now that sage is exhausted there is another herb that i have never used properly
tarragon
ant thoughts? – how to use – how and when to grow?
not one I have used much myself, but…
Just read in this month’s CWA magazine an article on “Fines herbes”, a combination of parsley, chives (onion), chervil and tarragon. “These four herbs, combined, create a taste that is unlike any of the individual herbs, bringing out the sweetness of mildly flavoured cram based recipes, while also adding a savory note. Traditionally fines herbes are used with egg, dairy and seafood dishes and are also delicious with potatoes and rice.” The bit about growing tarragon says, “French type best for flavour which can only be grown by root division. Want leaf growth and strong root system. Likes full sun and needs good drainage. Can be dried.”
would be good with green beans?
Date: 25/08/2012 14:58:07
From: painmaster
ID: 191567
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
justin said:
now that sage is exhausted there is another herb that i have never used properly
tarragon
ant thoughts? – how to use – how and when to grow?
for me, Tarragon tastes of France, it has a slight minty hit, but if fresh and vibrant. Works well with wine and cream and seafood.
Date: 25/10/2012 17:58:24
From: AussieDJ
ID: 218449
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
Then there’s pineapple sage … very tasty with a chopped leaf on a slice of fresh tomato.
I think you can make a tea or infusion out of it, too.
Date: 26/10/2012 11:58:17
From: justin
ID: 218774
Subject: re: Sage Thoughts
AussieDJ said:
Then there’s pineapple sage … very tasty with a chopped leaf on a slice of fresh tomato.
I think you can make a tea or infusion out of it, too.
i’ve heard people speak well of pineapple sage – thanks for the recipes aussiedj.