Our indigenous corner has grown beautifully. The original eighteen indigenous trees were planted in rows at strict six metre centres but now the mallee box have sprawled, the pink gum have soared and there is a nice central seating spot where one tree is stunted and has left a convenient opening. So the tree lot has naturalised itself. Nonetheless we largely ignore the trees and go in search of the insects and their curious formations.

It’s a warm 21C today and spring has arrived.
P1 – the woodheap consists of an almond tree and two pollarded gum trees that have just been chopped down because they were planted too close to powerlines. in the background are the broadbeans, pea trellis and rainwater tank.

P2 – last years strawbs will be allowed to die when the weather heats up because i have a new patch and i got little help picking these last year. nonetheless these look as tho’ they will produce a beaut first crop in spring.

P3 – the globe artichokes are so easy to grow here they are huge and have had neither fertiliser nor watering.

so what’s new
P1 – self sown coriander (does this leaf look strange to you?)
P2 – lotsa ginger in the fourth compost bay where i can look after it better than i have been doing.
P3 – silly little tomato has been growing in plastic over winter.
P4 – self sown lettuce with ruby chard in the background

P1 – lotsa garlic – probably 200 plants in this and another patch (we ran outofit last year)
P2 – the main spud patch – dutch cream in two foreground rows with kipler, sebago and others behind.
P3 – asparagus
P4 – the new strawbs

P1 – tomato ground prepared using the compost in the background.
P2 – red onion – not forming bulbs well enough for my liking.
P3 – from the front – fennel, the ubiquitous chicory, garlic and a big italian parsley patch.
P4- the toms growing in a warm spot on the verandah.

dats all folks.

justin said:

so what’s new
P1 – self sown coriander (does this leaf look strange to you?)

I’ve seen that ferny look on coriander that I have grown. I think just before it bolts if I remember rightly.

My ruby chard is still only 1cm tall with only the first true leaves. Needs to warm up a bit more to get going.

I am planning to try drying some of my garlic this year. There is that gap between when the last harvest is shot, and the new one matures when I end out buying o/s stuff.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

so what’s new
P1 – self sown coriander (does this leaf look strange to you?)

I’ve seen that ferny look on coriander that I have grown. I think just before it bolts if I remember rightly.
My ruby chard is still only 1cm tall with only the first true leaves. Needs to warm up a bit more to get going.

i’m thinking it has crossed with dill that self sows in the same patch. i wouldn’t be surprisied if it does bolt.
btw your chard might bolt as well. in fact all the winter vegs might decide to bolt about now.

bluegreen said:

I am planning to try drying some of my garlic this year. There is that gap between when the last harvest is shot, and the new one matures when I end out buying o/s stuff.

yeah same here.
last year we dried it out by plaiting the stems and hanging the knots. we hung three knots and that wasn’t even 6 months supply.
mind you we gave away another five plaited knots thinking we had plenty.
each knot has 6-10 plants and i need about 10 knots to be sure.

justin said:

bluegreen said:

I am planning to try drying some of my garlic this year. There is that gap between when the last harvest is shot, and the new one matures when I end out buying o/s stuff.

yeah same here.
last year we dried it out by plaiting the stems and hanging the knots. we hung three knots and that wasn’t even 6 months supply.
mind you we gave away another five plaited knots thinking we had plenty.
each knot has 6-10 plants and i need about 10 knots to be sure.

I meant by dehydration for powder or granules.

Great shots and great produce! Loverly jubberly!

Looking great Justin! I’m amazed at how much you grow.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

bluegreen said:

I am planning to try drying some of my garlic this year. There is that gap between when the last harvest is shot, and the new one matures when I end out buying o/s stuff.

yeah same here.
last year we dried it out by plaiting the stems and hanging the knots. we hung three knots and that wasn’t even 6 months supply.
mind you we gave away another five plaited knots thinking we had plenty.
each knot has 6-10 plants and i need about 10 knots to be sure.

I meant by dehydration for powder or granules.

good thought – i have a dehydrater.

painmaster said:

Great shots and great produce! Loverly jubberly!

no wuckers – thanks

Happy Potter said:

Looking great Justin! I’m amazed at how much you grow.

ta – the flowers are almost as good as BG’s this time of year as well.

You’re doing great there Justin. Loved the natives too.

justin said:

Happy Potter said:

Looking great Justin! I’m amazed at how much you grow.

ta – the flowers are almost as good as BG’s this time of year as well.

these flowers are ms justin’s province and both the chianthus and flag iris have naturalised as well as the globe artichoke has in this area.
the middle photo shows the oleanders being swapped by the peony poppies (hello Thee how are yours going?) budlejas in background.

pomolo said:

You’re doing great there Justin. Loved the natives too.

good – luvved the sound your beachcombing excursion.

i visited an open garden on saturday and took a few photos. this garden was mainly natives but then the gardener got the salvia bug and started collecting them.
are there native salvias?

justin said:

justin said:

Happy Potter said:

Looking great Justin! I’m amazed at how much you grow.

ta – the flowers are almost as good as BG’s this time of year as well.

these flowers are ms justin’s province and both the chianthus and flag iris have naturalised as well as the globe artichoke has in this area.
the middle photo shows the oleanders being swapped by the peony poppies (hello Thee how are yours going?) budlejas in background.

wallflowers = erysimum linifolium
what happened to “cheery antlers?”

a few of the native plants in the open garden at sandy creek.

I love E. caesia (the bottom one). I’ve got a lovely one at Casterton, but the one I had here has carked it. Might have planted it on top of a boulder, always a possibility around here.

This is my Casterton one:

And before she died, this is the one I had here in Penshurst:

She was always a bit stunted, but she did last 8 or 9 years.

buffy said:

And before she died, this is the one I had here in Penshurst:

She was always a bit stunted, but she did last 8 or 9 years.

that was a nice little corner – rocks, watering hole and the little green daisy flowers – beaut.
the truck of the tree seems thick for a tree that young. actually it looks bonsai-ed

vege harvest
new spuds – yum
little carrots, little beetroots, some fresh, selfsown lettuce, chicory, fennel, asparagus, red and savoy cabbages, celery, broc, the first green feast peas – and 300 lemons plus 100 mandies and 20 washington navel oranges left on the trees.
the broc, kohl rabi and radishes have gone to seed and are composted.
broadbeans are close, the strawbs are flowering and all the fruit trees are budding.

planted so far in spring
1 rouge de marmarne tomato, many leeks transplanted to make away for a bed of snapbeans, sweet peas and comfrey relocated.

i am thinking corn when the carrots and second lot of beans have been planted in their prepared beds.

sprained my back lifting slabs of homebrew ! there’s poetic justice in that somewhere.
Photo 1 shows the lemon tree with 3 stages of growth – new leaves, buds and ripe fruit.
Photo 2 shows the first year strawbs fruiting – they are fruiting every bit as well as the much bigger second year plants

So you’ve got strawberries coming on now…our strawb season is winter and early September…down south, near Eumundi, the strawbs are ripe now…v v ripe…

Dinetta said:

So you’ve got strawberries coming on now…our strawb season is winter and early September…down south, near Eumundi, the strawbs are ripe now…v v ripe…

harvest season is just starting here but our stores have q’billy strawbs on the shelves.
around christmas time you guys will be having beerenberg strawbs from hahndorf.

my homegrown strawbs are a class above the bought ones – taste wise. those perfect looking punnets in the shops usually taste like cardboard.

justin said:

Dinetta said:

So you’ve got strawberries coming on now…our strawb season is winter and early September…down south, near Eumundi, the strawbs are ripe now…v v ripe…

harvest season is just starting here but our stores have q’billy strawbs on the shelves.
around christmas time you guys will be having beerenberg strawbs from hahndorf.

my homegrown strawbs are a class above the bought ones – taste wise. those perfect looking punnets in the shops usually taste like cardboard.

ate a couple of punnets of cardboard during the week, and I said to my colleague, these are no where near as good as South Aussie Strawbs.

I should have paid more attention when I was in the Chimbu Province of Papua New Guinea, the Strawberries there are sold on a stick and they are well tasty, the best I have ever tried.

The main problem is that they are intended to be picked green and ripened later. This adds the second tier which is, breed strawbs that refuse to riipen.

end result: tastes like it was not meant to be eaten.

ma and pa blue wren at last.
they have been living in this garden all winter and this is the first photo/s.

ma and pa new holland honeyeater have been closely guarding my compost bins.
and murray magpie (alias peewit?) has returned but feeds quite satisfactorily i n the paddocks.

justin said:

and murray magpie (alias peewit?) has returned but feeds quite satisfactorily i n the paddocks.

Mudlark, around these parts. Lovely bird photos, thanks justin!

bon008 said:

justin said:

and murray magpie (alias peewit?) has returned but feeds quite satisfactorily i n the paddocks.

Mudlark, around these parts. Lovely bird photos, thanks justin!

no probs bon
the honeyeaters were for you since they are your favourites.

I remember reading a book called “catch me a pee-wit”
Could never decide.. should I write it as Pee-Wit or Pee-Wee.. opted that mudlark was more acceptable to most though pee wee is the nature of their sterophonic calling.

roughbarked said:

I remember reading a book called “catch me a pee-wit”
Could never decide.. should I write it as Pee-Wit or Pee-Wee.. opted that mudlark was more acceptable to most though pee wee is the nature of their sterophonic calling.

The various common names for Grallina cyanoleuca are Magpie-lark, Australian Magpie-lark, Mudlark, Peewee, Peewit and Murray Magpie, according to my Simpson & Day Field Guide to the Birds of Australia.

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

I remember reading a book called “catch me a pee-wit”
Could never decide.. should I write it as Pee-Wit or Pee-Wee.. opted that mudlark was more acceptable to most though pee wee is the nature of their sterophonic calling.

The various common names for Grallina cyanoleuca are Magpie-lark, Australian Magpie-lark, Mudlark, Peewee, Peewit and Murray Magpie, according to my Simpson & Day Field Guide to the Birds of Australia.

Yes all that.. but most don’t know about the stereo effect.

one bird lifts it’s wings and says, pee.. the other lifts its wings and says, wee. this oft repeated looks like two wits peeing in the wind.

justin said:

ma and pa blue wren at last.
they have been living in this garden all winter and this is the first photo/s.

I haven’t got any here and I miss them…

justin said:

ma and pa new holland honeyeater have been closely guarding my compost bins.
and murray magpie (alias peewit?) has returned but feeds quite satisfactorily i n the paddocks.

Yes, peewit or peewee…

roughbarked said:

Yes all that.. but most don’t know about the stereo effect.

one bird lifts it’s wings and says, pee.. the other lifts its wings and says, wee. this oft repeated looks like two wits peeing in the wind.

I never knew!

justin said:

ma and pa blue wren at last.
they have been living in this garden all winter and this is the first photo/s.

Beeeeyoutifull!

bon008 said:

justin said:

and murray magpie (alias peewit?) has returned but feeds quite satisfactorily i n the paddocks.

Mudlark, around these parts. Lovely bird photos, thanks justin!

Piping Shrike for me.

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Yes all that.. but most don’t know about the stereo effect.

one bird lifts it’s wings and says, pee.. the other lifts its wings and says, wee. this oft repeated looks like two wits peeing in the wind.

I never knew!

You just have to take the time to watch.

roughbarked said:

You just have to take the time to watch.

Thanks, I will, now that I know… :)

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

You just have to take the time to watch.

Thanks, I will, now that I know… :)

Let me know if you see what I described. ;)

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

You just have to take the time to watch.

Thanks, I will, now that I know… :)

Let me know if you see what I described. ;)

There’s a couple out the front sometimes, not daily, but next time…

Love your bird pics.

roughbarked said:

I remember reading a book called “catch me a pee-wit”
Could never decide.. should I write it as Pee-Wit or Pee-Wee.. opted that mudlark was more acceptable to most though pee wee is the nature of their sterophonic calling.

i’m 7 pages back – youse guys ‘ave bin talkin’.

if you used mudlark in my presence it would not register in my brain as the same bird.

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

I remember reading a book called “catch me a pee-wit”
Could never decide.. should I write it as Pee-Wit or Pee-Wee.. opted that mudlark was more acceptable to most though pee wee is the nature of their sterophonic calling.

The various common names for Grallina cyanoleuca are Magpie-lark, Australian Magpie-lark, Mudlark, Peewee, Peewit and Murray Magpie, according to my Simpson & Day Field Guide to the Birds of Australia.

slater’s field guide only uses one – mudlark.
it is the bird emblem of SA – i think?
it’s called the ‘piping shrike’ in the emblem – now you’re confused aren’t you?
me too.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

I remember reading a book called “catch me a pee-wit”
Could never decide.. should I write it as Pee-Wit or Pee-Wee.. opted that mudlark was more acceptable to most though pee wee is the nature of their sterophonic calling.

The various common names for Grallina cyanoleuca are Magpie-lark, Australian Magpie-lark, Mudlark, Peewee, Peewit and Murray Magpie, according to my Simpson & Day Field Guide to the Birds of Australia.

Yes all that.. but most don’t know about the stereo effect.
one bird lifts it’s wings and says, pee.. the other lifts its wings and says, wee. this oft repeated looks like two wits peeing in the wind.

chuckle – a unique observation.

Dinetta said:

justin said:

ma and pa blue wren at last.
they have been living in this garden all winter and this is the first photo/s.

I haven’t got any here and I miss them…

they are newcomers here – my neighbour says the planting of tree corridors has enabled their migration to this area.

painmaster said:

justin said:

ma and pa blue wren at last.
they have been living in this garden all winter and this is the first photo/s.

Beeeeyoutifull!

the wrens are very appealing – and so incredibly lightweight i think one of the reasons they need a tree corridor to migrate is their inability to fly against the wind.

painmaster said:

bon008 said:

justin said:

and murray magpie (alias peewit?) has returned but feeds quite satisfactorily i n the paddocks.

Mudlark, around these parts. Lovely bird photos, thanks justin!

Piping Shrike for me.

ah good! – the emblem is confirmed
- altho’ the ‘piping shrike’ drawing looks like a magpie strung out on a pinup board.

justin said:

Dinetta said:

justin said:

ma and pa blue wren at last.
they have been living in this garden all winter and this is the first photo/s.

I haven’t got any here and I miss them…

they are newcomers here – my neighbour says the planting of tree corridors has enabled their migration to this area.

Yes, they can’t migrate without shrubs to protect them from the raptors…

justin said:

painmaster said:

bon008 said:

Mudlark, around these parts. Lovely bird photos, thanks justin!

Piping Shrike for me.

ah good! – the emblem is confirmed
- altho’ the ‘piping shrike’ drawing looks like a magpie strung out on a pinup board.

Shrikes are smaller than Magpies and Piping is what Pee Wees do well.

painmaster said:

justin said:

painmaster said:

Piping Shrike for me.

ah good! – the emblem is confirmed
- altho’ the ‘piping shrike’ drawing looks like a magpie strung out on a pinup board.

Shrikes are smaller than Magpies and Piping is what Pee Wees do well.

OK fine – but do they lark around in mud?

justin said:

painmaster said:

justin said:

ah good! – the emblem is confirmed
- altho’ the ‘piping shrike’ drawing looks like a magpie strung out on a pinup board.

Shrikes are smaller than Magpies and Piping is what Pee Wees do well.

OK fine – but do they lark around in mud?

I did watch our local mudlarks make a nest from mud in our jacaranda. It wasn’t even in an intersection of branches, just either side of one single branch. It washed away before long :(

justin said:

painmaster said:

justin said:

ah good! – the emblem is confirmed
- altho’ the ‘piping shrike’ drawing looks like a magpie strung out on a pinup board.

Shrikes are smaller than Magpies and Piping is what Pee Wees do well.

OK fine – but do they lark around in mud?

In some states it would appear that yes, they do.

bon008 said:

justin said:

painmaster said:

Shrikes are smaller than Magpies and Piping is what Pee Wees do well.

OK fine – but do they lark around in mud?

I did watch our local mudlarks make a nest from mud in our jacaranda. It wasn’t even in an intersection of branches, just either side of one single branch. It washed away before long :(

that would have been worth seeing – there are mud nests around here but i don’t know whose they are.

picking our first broad beans and greenfeast peas. the b.bs are picked young and when shelled are the same size as the peas.

the stevias have been picked for the first time and used as nonfermentable sugar in the lemonade. the caper bushes are deciduous and looking decidedly more alive now that spring has sprung.

someone picked and ate the first ripe strawberry as it ripened. they just beat me to it. it was either ms justin or those pesky neighbourhood bunnies.

justin said:

bon008 said:

justin said:

OK fine – but do they lark around in mud?

I did watch our local mudlarks make a nest from mud in our jacaranda. It wasn’t even in an intersection of branches, just either side of one single branch. It washed away before long :(

that would have been worth seeing – there are mud nests around here but i don’t know whose they are.

I have a photo somewhere… will have a look.

the first globe artichokes have been picked – that’s them in photo #4
working backwards photo 3 is the a’hearts in lemon water, photo 2 is the newly made gluten steak and the finished meal is at the top.
artichokes, fresh peas and fennel all in a bespoke recipe with homemade gluten steak by ms justin – wow!
(don’t ask for recipe and all responsibilities shunted sideways according to our lawyers).

the only good patch of spuds left.
patch #1 was eaten in the past 4 weeks, patch #2 has died off and will be harvested for the making of fun things and – this patch is a bit bit leafy but shows promise.

justin said:

the first globe artichokes have been picked – that’s them in photo #4
working backwards photo 3 is the a’hearts in lemon water, photo 2 is the newly made gluten steak and the finished meal is at the top.
artichokes, fresh peas and fennel all in a bespoke recipe with homemade gluten steak by ms justin – wow!
(don’t ask for recipe and all responsibilities shunted sideways according to our lawyers).

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Clever Ms Justin.

justin said:

the only good patch of spuds left.
patch #1 was eaten in the past 4 weeks, patch #2 has died off and will be harvested for the making of fun things and – this patch is a bit bit leafy but shows promise.

Our potatoes are at about the same stage as yours. We have flowers on a few.

Don’t think I’ve ever tried gluten steaks.

roughbarked said:

Don’t think I’ve ever tried gluten steaks.

gluten flour and yeast boiled in a broth.
the broth give the flavour so our broth has – onion, garlic, celery leaves and tops, walnuts, marmite (softer than vegemite), soy sauce, bayleaves, green capsicum and salt.

justin said:

roughbarked said:

Don’t think I’ve ever tried gluten steaks.

gluten flour and yeast boiled in a broth.
the broth give the flavour so our broth has – onion, garlic, celery leaves and tops, walnuts, marmite (softer than vegemite), soy sauce, bayleaves, green capsicum and salt.

Thanks. :)

nrth of adelaide

planted today – carrots (whole pkt topweight), beetroot, radish and – lebanese and blackjack zucchinis in dished out hollows.

we have been getting some lovely rain so almost everything is germinating well including – corn, two lotsa beans, the sweetpea transplants, the comfrey and the borage transplants.

we are picking – broad beans, greenfeast peas, asparagus, 3 sorts of lettuce, fennel, parsley, carrots, spinach/ ruby chard/ silver beet, snap peas and herbs.

going to seed is widespread – italian parsley, kohl rabi, savoy cabbage and some of the immature red onions.

it should also be said that
the red cabbage is mature and ready to pick but not bolting,
the echinacea bulbs have emerged from winter,
four strawbs have been eaten and the first one was the victim of ms justin and not the bunnies, – and –
beetroot, globe artichokes and celery are also on the menu….. altho’ the celery becomes hollow stemmed very quickly as soon as the soil dries.

Photo 1 – lettuce, broad beans and some peas
Photo 2 – the heron walking on the pool cover and looking for the tadpoles in the pool water
Photo 3 – ms justin does a ‘buffy’ – she knits a pepe poodle from a book called ‘knit a bitch’ LOL.

I have to say….the real one doesn’t look overly impressed!

Remember my little ‘greenhouse’ contraption?

http://i114.photobucket.com/albums/n245/lizza_06/MiniHotHouseSep12.jpg

Well….the tomato seeds are germinating in there now. I’m pleased.

justin said:

Photo 1 – lettuce, broad beans and some peas
Photo 2 – the heron walking on the pool cover and looking for the tadpoles in the pool water
Photo 3 – ms justin does a ‘buffy’ – she knits a pepe poodle from a book called ‘knit a bitch’ LOL.

LOL!

buffy said:

I have to say….the real one doesn’t look overly impressed!

the real one is being very patient – the mock one isn’t finished – some eyes, stitching together and a few last minute ajustments.

justin said:

Photo 3 – ms justin does a ‘buffy’ – she knits a pepe poodle from a book called ‘knit a bitch’ LOL.

Good work Mrs Pepe!

Also, great shot of the heron…

P1 – the lettuce is self sown and a diet plan – peas, asparagus and sprouts wrapped in a lettuce leaf is a good cold roll and a good snack.
P2 – citrus trees have more blossom than any previous year
P3 – tonights soup – the bbeans, peas and asparagus tips were a freshish garnish

Photo 1 is a scat – we’re wondering if the heron has been on our verandah
P2 – the spuds with leeks in front
P3 – the ginger is going to be spoilt this year – galangal on the right

“scat”… isn’t that a Yankee term for sh*t?

scat is the term for all shit.

justin said:

Photo 1 is a scat – we’re wondering if the heron has been on our verandah
P2 – the spuds with leeks in front
P3 – the ginger is going to be spoilt this year – galangal on the right

Do you have Australian White Ibis your way? Certainly looks like one of theirs… mind you, a Heron would have a very similar diet!

Good morning Gardeners. I hope someone here is going to garden today…..because I am working, and the quota of each activity needs to be balanced somehow!

roughbarked said:

scat is the term for all shit.

Well I had never heard or read of it, until I saw a very early episode of the tv show, “Bones”… which I think is what makes me think it’s a Yankee term…

…but I digress…

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

scat is the term for all shit.

Well I had never heard or read of it, until I saw a very early episode of the tv show, “Bones”… which I think is what makes me think it’s a Yankee term…

Basically it applies to animal tracking.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

scat is the term for all shit.

Well I had never heard or read of it, until I saw a very early episode of the tv show, “Bones”… which I think is what makes me think it’s a Yankee term…

Basically it applies to animal tracking.

… like “spoor” in the South African novels? That’s a very good definition by the way…

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Well I had never heard or read of it, until I saw a very early episode of the tv show, “Bones”… which I think is what makes me think it’s a Yankee term…

Basically it applies to animal tracking.

… like “spoor” in the South African novels? That’s a very good definition by the way…

Spoor relates to footprints.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Basically it applies to animal tracking.

… like “spoor” in the South African novels? That’s a very good definition by the way…

Spoor relates to footprints.

I’m on a perpetual learning curve…thanks…

Dinetta said:

“scat”… isn’t that a Yankee term for sh*t?

mostly a noun – a term used to identify what a creature has left behind.
the verb would be shat LOL.

painmaster said:

justin said:

Photo 1 is a scat – we’re wondering if the heron has been on our verandah
P2 – the spuds with leeks in front
P3 – the ginger is going to be spoilt this year – galangal on the right

Do you have Australian White Ibis your way? Certainly looks like one of theirs… mind you, a Heron would have a very similar diet!

we have an answer – thank you.

the heron is walking on our verandah while we are out!
pepe the poodle has caught and killed a small rabbit – that is very good because the bunnies are too numerous and too confident.
now i find the poodles allow this gaint prehistoric looking bird to sun it on our porch !

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

scat is the term for all shit.

Well I had never heard or read of it, until I saw a very early episode of the tv show, “Bones”… which I think is what makes me think it’s a Yankee term…

I have only heard of it when it comes to Park Rangers and Wildlife carers… I think scat is a dried up shit. I remember a Ranger once saying if you are not game to pick it up then it is shit, but if you are keen to pick it up and break it apart and smell it, then its a scat.

painmaster said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

scat is the term for all shit.

Well I had never heard or read of it, until I saw a very early episode of the tv show, “Bones”… which I think is what makes me think it’s a Yankee term…

I have only heard of it when it comes to Park Rangers and Wildlife carers… I think scat is a dried up shit. I remember a Ranger once saying if you are not game to pick it up then it is shit, but if you are keen to pick it up and break it apart and smell it, then its a scat.

Need a “Like” button here…

this heron is here alone and is here everyday. he/she is fishing tadpoles out of the pool.
in photo#2 it is being dive bombed by a pair of noisy minors and other birds like the wattle bird and mudlark (m.magpie) will also hassle it.
we don’t encourage it because they are a kind of pest in areas of adelaide where they can form communities of hundreds.
still – it is a nice bird to have around.

justin said:

this heron is here alone and is here everyday.
still – it is a nice bird to have around.

Love this shot…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

this heron is here alone and is here everyday.
still – it is a nice bird to have around.

Love this shot…

thanks
there’s been some nice rain here today and only one, small, shortlived hailstorm – and during its short duration i was running between shed and house…………..murphy’s (burke’s?) law.

here’s a large image (caution)
- of apple blossum for pomolo – who apparently doesn’t see much of it in her area ???
- i still can’t compute how your area varies from ours and yet it obviously varies a lot

great ! – the caution was worthless because it wasn’t a clickable thumbnail.

The variance, I believe, is the night-time temperatures…we don’t get enough of the low temps, for as long as it takes, to persuade stonefruit and apples, to fruit…it’s enough to make caladiums in pots to go dormant for a while but not for apples and stone fruit…

However your summers can match ours for longer…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

this heron is here alone and is here everyday.
still – it is a nice bird to have around.

Love this shot…

Lovely White Faced Heron you got there!

justin said:

great ! – the caution was worthless because it wasn’t a clickable thumbnail.

I’m on dial up and it wasn’t that slow. Popped up pretty quickly really.

justin said:

Dinetta said:

justin said:

this heron is here alone and is here everyday.
still – it is a nice bird to have around.

Love this shot…

thanks
there’s been some nice rain here today and only one, small, shortlived hailstorm – and during its short duration i was running between shed and house…………..murphy’s (burke’s?) law.

Has to be Burke’s Law on a gardening forum.

justin said:

here’s a large image (caution)
- of apple blossum for pomolo – who apparently doesn’t see much of it in her area ???
- i still can’t compute how your area varies from ours and yet it obviously varies a lot

Now you’re an extra sweetie for showing me that. I guess the pink blobs are new buds? We do have tropical apples that do reasonably well up here but we don’t have any as yet and I’ve never seen one in flower.

Dinetta said:

The variance, I believe, is the night-time temperatures…we don’t get enough of the low temps, for as long as it takes, to persuade stonefruit and apples, to fruit…it’s enough to make caladiums in pots to go dormant for a while but not for apples and stone fruit…

However your summers can match ours for longer…

i never would have thought of the night time temps – but it does make sense – thanks.
…and my tropical corner of bannanas, ginger, sugar cane and lemongrass is doing very badly as usual in case you were wondering

painmaster said:

justin said:

great ! – the caution was worthless because it wasn’t a clickable thumbnail.

I’m on dial up and it wasn’t that slow. Popped up pretty quickly really.

good – and white faced heron it is thanks.

Now you’re an extra sweetie for showing me that. I guess the pink blobs are new buds?

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yep the pink blobs are the unfurled flowers – i wonder if those white petals are pink on the backside?
it’s freezing outside at present – i’ll check on the backs of the petals later.

justin said:

Dinetta said:

The variance, I believe, is the night-time temperatures…we don’t get enough of the low temps, for as long as it takes, to persuade stonefruit and apples, to fruit…it’s enough to make caladiums in pots to go dormant for a while but not for apples and stone fruit…

However your summers can match ours for longer…

i never would have thought of the night time temps – but it does make sense – thanks.
…and my tropical corner of bannanas, ginger, sugar cane and lemongrass is doing very badly as usual in case you were wondering

lemongrass in Adelaide grows well! I had great clumps of it in the Eastern Suburbs…. oh and my Bananas are fruiting again.

justin said:

Now you’re an extra sweetie for showing me that. I guess the pink blobs are new buds?

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yep the pink blobs are the unfurled flowers – i wonder if those white petals are pink on the backside?
it’s freezing outside at present – i’ll check on the backs of the petals later.

well they kinda unfurl with pink stripes and then …. wat the heck – i’ll post another piccie

painmaster said:

justin said:

Dinetta said:

The variance, I believe, is the night-time temperatures…we don’t get enough of the low temps, for as long as it takes, to persuade stonefruit and apples, to fruit…it’s enough to make caladiums in pots to go dormant for a while but not for apples and stone fruit…

However your summers can match ours for longer…

i never would have thought of the night time temps – but it does make sense – thanks.
…and my tropical corner of bannanas, ginger, sugar cane and lemongrass is doing very badly as usual in case you were wondering

lemongrass in Adelaide grows well! I had great clumps of it in the Eastern Suburbs…. oh and my Bananas are fruiting again.

good – you can show me – mine’s growing but not pruned at all – therefore – big bunch of sticks – await photo.

justin said:

Now you’re an extra sweetie for showing me that. I guess the pink blobs are new buds?

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yep the pink blobs are the unfurled flowers – i wonder if those white petals are pink on the backside?
it’s freezing outside at present – i’ll check on the backs of the petals later.

the bottom photo does show how the colour of the apple bud is dispersed as the bud opens.

the other two photos show problems I will encounter.

top photo – this is a new pergola and a five year old vine just starting to trail. it has tiny little bunches of grape like dangly bits – are these embrionic grapes? what should i do to encourage a good harvest?

middle photo – my pitiful lemongrass – it needs pruning – right?

top – chestnut planted during winter is growing well
mid – loquats nearing harvest – our first
curry plant – makes a nice blue clump in the garden even if inedible

top – imperial mandarins going woody before they go orange?
mid – stevia looking good
bottom – purple king beans germinating behind the protection of a broad bean crop – if the bunnies or birds saw this the beans would be gone.

justin said:

justin said:

Now you’re an extra sweetie for showing me that. I guess the pink blobs are new buds?

——————————————————

yep the pink blobs are the unfurled flowers – i wonder if those white petals are pink on the backside?
it’s freezing outside at present – i’ll check on the backs of the petals later.

the bottom photo does show how the colour of the apple bud is dispersed as the bud opens.

the other two photos show problems I will encounter.

top photo – this is a new pergola and a five year old vine just starting to trail. it has tiny little bunches of grape like dangly bits – are these embrionic grapes? what should i do to encourage a good harvest?

middle photo – my pitiful lemongrass – it needs pruning – right?

no pruning required. Just clean off the dead leaves and treat it like grass.

justin said:

top – chestnut planted during winter is growing well
mid – loquats nearing harvest – our first
curry plant – makes a nice blue clump in the garden even if inedible

Yummy loquats!

painmaster said:

justin said:

middle photo – my pitiful lemongrass – it needs pruning – right?

no pruning required. Just clean off the dead leaves and treat it like grass.

i can do that – with a pair of herb scissors – thanks.

justin said:

middle photo – my pitiful lemongrass – it needs pruning – right?

I think it just needs some hot weather…I’m no expert…and oh yeah, you’re on tank water…say half a bucket in the morning and another half at night…worm wee as well…

your lemongrass looks like mine! lol!

Dinetta said:

justin said:

middle photo – my pitiful lemongrass – it needs pruning – right?

I think it just needs some hot weather…I’m no expert…and oh yeah, you’re on tank water…say half a bucket in the morning and another half at night…worm wee as well…

it’s right next to ginger and bananas so your water advice is understood but a constant problem – we never get heat and water at the same time down here – unless – of course – you send us summer rain from the northeast.

bluegreen said:

your lemongrass looks like mine! lol!

just a tad cold.

justin said:

painmaster said:

justin said:

middle photo – my pitiful lemongrass – it needs pruning – right?

no pruning required. Just clean off the dead leaves and treat it like grass.

i can do that – with a pair of herb scissors – thanks.

I used to dig mine out and divide it up when it got that bad and re plant it , you could get a few out of that :)

bluegreen said:

your lemongrass looks like mine! lol!

ended up getting rid of mine, took over and was always full of snails YUK !

Thee’s Estate said:

bluegreen said:

your lemongrass looks like mine! lol!

ended up getting rid of mine, took over and was always full of snails YUK !

two good hints there thanks thee.

i can see your point in throwing them out – apart from snails there is – the need for water and – lemons, lemon thyme, lemon verbena and lemon balm in our garden.
i think i will persist with it but look around for a damper spot.

justin said:

Thee’s Estate said:

bluegreen said:

your lemongrass looks like mine! lol!

ended up getting rid of mine, took over and was always full of snails YUK !

two good hints there thanks thee.

i can see your point in throwing them out – apart from snails there is – the need for water and – lemons, lemon thyme, lemon verbena and lemon balm in our garden.
i think i will persist with it but look around for a damper spot.

I grow the native lemon grass. Got rid of that water hungry one three dcades ago.

>>i think i will persist with it but look around for a damper spot.<<

I’ve finally put some in a rather large pot, behind one of the taps in the middle of the garden. So when I am watering (hose or bucket), I tend to remember to give it a slosh. I’ve also got some chives in the same pot. I’ve never actually used the lemon grass – I do use chives – but for some reason I decided I wanted to grow it. I bought a piece at the market, stuck it in a glass of water, and it grew roots. So I planted it out.

Justin has a place just the same as you all do and long ago I started a thread about roughbarked but I forgot where I put it.

buffy said:

>>i think i will persist with it but look around for a damper spot.<<

I’ve finally put some in a rather large pot, behind one of the taps in the middle of the garden. So when I am watering (hose or bucket), I tend to remember to give it a slosh. I’ve also got some chives in the same pot. I’ve never actually used the lemon grass – I do use chives – but for some reason I decided I wanted to grow it. I bought a piece at the market, stuck it in a glass of water, and it grew roots. So I planted it out.

put it in a pot by a tap – good idea buffy

roughbarked said:

Justin has a place just the same as you all do and long ago I started a thread about roughbarked but I forgot where I put it.

i see HP has started one – or – wait a minute – she found your old one.
just start a new one – because the old ones get a bit overloaded.

roughbarked said:

justin said:

Thee’s Estate said:

ended up getting rid of mine, took over and was always full of snails YUK !

two good hints there thanks thee.

i can see your point in throwing them out – apart from snails there is – the need for water and – lemons, lemon thyme, lemon verbena and lemon balm in our garden.
i think i will persist with it but look around for a damper spot.

I grow the native lemon grass. Got rid of that water hungry one three dcades ago.

a friend/good cook gave me this one – i think it is meant to be good for thai cooking – but without the water the stems are good-for-nothing.

Well I’d go for the pot under the tap idea. I recall Culpeper had one so invasive, that Ken the Gardener took several hours of solid physical labour to dig it all out for her…

this spring we are unusually blessed with lots to harvest. normally everything is going to seed or just emerging . RB’s theory about deep soaking carrots to produce the best tubers has another advantage – it has stopped them going to seed.

Photo1 – the beans in the bottom bowl cost 50 cents to grow and about $50 to pod. I am blanching and freezing them for later use. chefs are beginning to include broad bean recipes and its no wonder – these little beans are fab. asparagus and big beans in the other bowls.

P2 – my so-called ‘vodka potatoes’ that were going to be reserved for distilling – but so far they have proved very tempting – especially the dots – boiled and eaten skin-and-all with butter and salt.
P3 – strawb season just starting.

Reaping rewards…looks good…the $50 will pay off further down the line…

Home grown Broad Beans are fantastic!

painmaster said:

Home grown Broad Beans are fantastic!

yep :)

My broadbeans (SouthWest Victoria) are flowering but have not made any pods yet. But I am picking telephone peas. Very, very, very yummy.

buffy said:

My broadbeans (SouthWest Victoria) are flowering but have not made any pods yet. But I am picking telephone peas. Very, very, very yummy.

peas are better of course – but broad beans are easier to grow.

do you know how to save broad bean seed for the following year?
i podded some big ones, intending to dry them out, but they went mouldy.
any clues welcome.

justin said:

buffy said:

My broadbeans (SouthWest Victoria) are flowering but have not made any pods yet. But I am picking telephone peas. Very, very, very yummy.

peas are better of course – but broad beans are easier to grow.

do you know how to save broad bean seed for the following year?
i podded some big ones, intending to dry them out, but they went mouldy.
any clues welcome.

Allow them to dry on the plant unless you are having extensive wet weather. Otherwise pick them when full sized and dry them in the sun.

roughbarked said:

justin said:

buffy said:

My broadbeans (SouthWest Victoria) are flowering but have not made any pods yet. But I am picking telephone peas. Very, very, very yummy.

peas are better of course – but broad beans are easier to grow.

do you know how to save broad bean seed for the following year?
i podded some big ones, intending to dry them out, but they went mouldy.
any clues welcome.

Allow them to dry on the plant unless you are having extensive wet weather. Otherwise pick them when full sized and dry them in the sun.

thanks – will do.

I just buy seed. I don’t find the seed all that expensive really.

justin said:

buffy said:

My broadbeans (SouthWest Victoria) are flowering but have not made any pods yet. But I am picking telephone peas. Very, very, very yummy.

peas are better of course – but broad beans are easier to grow.

do you know how to save broad bean seed for the following year?
i podded some big ones, intending to dry them out, but they went mouldy.
any clues welcome.

Broad Beans freeze well.

justin said:

buffy said:

My broadbeans (SouthWest Victoria) are flowering but have not made any pods yet. But I am picking telephone peas. Very, very, very yummy.

peas are better of course – but broad beans are easier to grow.

do you know how to save broad bean seed for the following year?
i podded some big ones, intending to dry them out, but they went mouldy.
any clues welcome.

let them dry on the plant. Freeze for 48 hours to kill any bug eggs. Dry out a bit more and store in a cool dry place. Good for many years.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

buffy said:

My broadbeans (SouthWest Victoria) are flowering but have not made any pods yet. But I am picking telephone peas. Very, very, very yummy.

peas are better of course – but broad beans are easier to grow.

do you know how to save broad bean seed for the following year?
i podded some big ones, intending to dry them out, but they went mouldy.
any clues welcome.

let them dry on the plant. Freeze for 48 hours to kill any bug eggs. Dry out a bit more and store in a cool dry place. Good for many years.

thanks – sounds like you have done it before.

bearded dragon is in our vege garden – eating our strawbs but also decimating the snails, slugs and earwigs – net gain.
we now have two permanent grass gardens and the skinks and dragons live there.

P1 – strawbs – jam made – tonight we dehydrate
P2 – our first Kifler spuds – going in the potato curry tonight – note these are from one plant so 20:1 return
P3 – why is ms justin picking 3 flower baskets full of mulberry leaves each day?

corn, beans and tomatoes – the state of play in Gawler, S.A.

P1 – this peaceful scene shows the ‘old mans beard’ (clematis summin) doing very well to the left of the shed – when suddenly an australian kestrel dived in and took away a lizard (probably) – and I missed it ! – what a great shot that would have been ! LOL
P2 – these three galars have all got broken wings so they reside here and screech at all the flying galars
P3 – pomolo’s gift of plectranthus aboinicus (all herb) – doing well in the pot but struggling over winter in the ground

these fennel, strawb and broccoli plants have all self generated – from seed or side shoots
methinks this is fresh produce with practically no cost – someone should tell people about this.

well ?

why is ms justin picking 3 baskets of mulberry leaves each day?

…the correct answer is ……

justin said:

…the correct answer is ……

I don’t know what mrs rb did wrong but none of ours have made it past the first moult. I blame the perfumed box she used.
We have been in the ghabit of tying bits of cardboard with eggs on, in the weeping mulberry. they seem to start better there. Though the paper wasps clean them all up in a day when they find them.

very cool Beardo!

justin said:

…the correct answer is ……

you deep fry the silkies?

roughbarked said:

justin said:

…the correct answer is ……

I don’t know what mrs rb did wrong but none of ours have made it past the first moult. I blame the perfumed box she used.
We have been in the ghabit of tying bits of cardboard with eggs on, in the weeping mulberry. they seem to start better there. Though the paper wasps clean them all up in a day when they find them.

my daughter has actually put them in a tree too – altho’ hers is a potted mulberry tree.
we’ve got far too many – perfumed box you say _ umm? LOL.

i was snapping the lebanese zuchinni when there it was – holding very still so i wouldn’t see it.
a juvenile i think – altho’ there is a minature species…

painmaster said:

justin said:

…the correct answer is ……

you deep fry the silkies?

ha – more likely they deep fry our brains – very testing and time consuming

justin said:

i was snapping the lebanese zuchinni when there it was – holding very still so i wouldn’t see it.
a juvenile i think – altho’ there is a minature species…

while we do get beardos up here, it is more common for us to get Nobbys which are kinda like a tiny bearded dragon. They are very small though.

Ooh, grass garden. Thanks for the reminder. I need to photograph mine while it is looking reasonable seedy. I have grown local native grasses from seed I collected out at our bush block. I can’t identify all of them, but I know there is wallaby grass in there. I’m gradually grassing up an area in the front yard.

I’ve got lots of grass garden and five resident beardies that all stay their distance from each other other than at breeding season.

Wonderful pics and discription of where your garden is at :)
Spinning the silk from the grubs?

painmaster said:

justin said:

i was snapping the lebanese zuchinni when there it was – holding very still so i wouldn’t see it.
a juvenile i think – altho’ there is a minature species…

while we do get beardos up here, it is more common for us to get Nobbys which are kinda like a tiny bearded dragon. They are very small though.

probably a juvenile then.

buffy said:

Ooh, grass garden. Thanks for the reminder. I need to photograph mine while it is looking reasonable seedy. I have grown local native grasses from seed I collected out at our bush block. I can’t identify all of them, but I know there is wallaby grass in there. I’m gradually grassing up an area in the front yard.

yes photos please – we have kangaroo grasses and wallaby grasses – plus blue flax lilly, cympogan (?) and a poa

Happy Potter said:

Wonderful pics and discription of where your garden is at :)
Spinning the silk from the grubs?

noone wants to kill the pupa so my daughter says she will felt the silk with angora.

justin said:

Happy Potter said:

Wonderful pics and discription of where your garden is at :)
Spinning the silk from the grubs?

noone wants to kill the pupa so my daughter says she will felt the silk with angora.

Great idea!

Happy Potter said:

justin said:

Happy Potter said:

Wonderful pics and discription of where your garden is at :)
Spinning the silk from the grubs?

noone wants to kill the pupa so my daughter says she will felt the silk with angora.

Great idea!

lotsa luck.. I’ll ask my daughter if she’s tried it.

I have actually hand spun silk.

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

justin said:

noone wants to kill the pupa so my daughter says she will felt the silk with angora.

Great idea!

lotsa luck.. I’ll ask my daughter if she’s tried it.

I have actually hand spun silk.

You don’t have to kill the pupa to spin the silk. I know in commercial use they do it with very hot water but it still works with just warm. I kept them as a kid and we always spun the silk and the pupa will still hatch.

justin said:

painmaster said:

justin said:

i was snapping the lebanese zuchinni when there it was – holding very still so i wouldn’t see it.
a juvenile i think – altho’ there is a minature species…

while we do get beardos up here, it is more common for us to get Nobbys which are kinda like a tiny bearded dragon. They are very small though.

probably a juvenile then.

no, Nobbys are just really small, rarely longer than 12cm

painmaster said:

justin said:

painmaster said:

while we do get beardos up here, it is more common for us to get Nobbys which are kinda like a tiny bearded dragon. They are very small though.

probably a juvenile then.

no, Nobbys are just really small, rarely longer than 12cm

five inches is not overly small.
they all have wrinkled faces and look old.
i will keep observing them at my place and keep learning.

You don’t have to kill the pupa to spin the silk. I know in commercial use they do it with very hot water but it still works with just warm. I kept them as a kid and we always spun the silk and the pupa will still hatch.
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don’t thet drown in the warm water?

anyrate – its not my problem – altho’ -

how do you spin? – i think the chinese take 10 threads at a time and twist them.

my daughter is getting advice from a ‘spinner and weaver’ – and i’m out of my depth here.

justin said:

You don’t have to kill the pupa to spin the silk. I know in commercial use they do it with very hot water but it still works with just warm. I kept them as a kid and we always spun the silk and the pupa will still hatch.
———————————————————————

don’t thet drown in the warm water?

anyrate – its not my problem – altho’ -

how do you spin? – i think the chinese take 10 threads at a time and twist them.

my daughter is getting advice from a ‘spinner and weaver’ – and i’m out of my depth here.

I know a guy who was from a family of spinners and built his own special wheel for silk.. He lives up the Ovens valley near Bright, I can give you his address.

roughbarked said:

justin said:

You don’t have to kill the pupa to spin the silk. I know in commercial use they do it with very hot water but it still works with just warm. I kept them as a kid and we always spun the silk and the pupa will still hatch.
———————————————————————

don’t thet drown in the warm water?

anyrate – its not my problem – altho’ -

how do you spin? – i think the chinese take 10 threads at a time and twist them.

my daughter is getting advice from a ‘spinner and weaver’ – and i’m out of my depth here.

I know a guy who was from a family of spinners and built his own special wheel for silk.. He lives up the Ovens valley near Bright, I can give you his address.

i’m the go-between here – so i will ask but i doubt there are enuff coccooons to justify much trouble ??

justin said:

You don’t have to kill the pupa to spin the silk. I know in commercial use they do it with very hot water but it still works with just warm. I kept them as a kid and we always spun the silk and the pupa will still hatch.
———————————————————————

don’t thet drown in the warm water?

anyrate – its not my problem – altho’ -

how do you spin? – i think the chinese take 10 threads at a time and twist them.

my daughter is getting advice from a ‘spinner and weaver’ – and i’m out of my depth here.

No, they don’t drown. I don’t think the pupa actually breath, as such, they’re sort of a closed unit. We just pulled a few threads out and wound them around a wooden frame. Not spinning in the true sense of the word but you still end up with a hank and silk.

Just don’t have the water too hot.

justin said:

painmaster said:

justin said:

probably a juvenile then.

no, Nobbys are just really small, rarely longer than 12cm

five inches is not overly small.
they all have wrinkled faces and look old.
i will keep observing them at my place and keep learning.

I am talking to the tip of their tail…

bubba louie said:

justin said:

You don’t have to kill the pupa to spin the silk. I know in commercial use they do it with very hot water but it still works with just warm. I kept them as a kid and we always spun the silk and the pupa will still hatch.
———————————————————————

don’t thet drown in the warm water? anyrate – its not my problem – altho’ – how do you spin? – i think the chinese take 10 threads at a time and twist them.
my daughter is getting advice from a ‘spinner and weaver’ – and i’m out of my depth here.

No, they don’t drown. I don’t think the pupa actually breath, as such, they’re sort of a closed unit. We just pulled a few threads out and wound them around a wooden frame. Not spinning in the true sense of the word but you still end up with a hank and silk.
Just don’t have the water too hot.

Ok thanks – a hank is ..? some sort of loose wound silk ball i guess.

painmaster said:

justin said:

painmaster said:

no, Nobbys are just really small, rarely longer than 12cm

five inches is not overly small.
they all have wrinkled faces and look old.
i will keep observing them at my place and keep learning.

I am talking to the tip of their tail…

there are the large 300-450mm and more beardos here – but the sightings in my close-to-the-house garden have been of a smaller sort and they don’t act like juveniles.
i will get to the bottom of this _ in time.

justin said:

bubba louie said:

justin said:

You don’t have to kill the pupa to spin the silk. I know in commercial use they do it with very hot water but it still works with just warm. I kept them as a kid and we always spun the silk and the pupa will still hatch.
———————————————————————

don’t thet drown in the warm water? anyrate – its not my problem – altho’ – how do you spin? – i think the chinese take 10 threads at a time and twist them.
my daughter is getting advice from a ‘spinner and weaver’ – and i’m out of my depth here.

No, they don’t drown. I don’t think the pupa actually breath, as such, they’re sort of a closed unit. We just pulled a few threads out and wound them around a wooden frame. Not spinning in the true sense of the word but you still end up with a hank and silk.
Just don’t have the water too hot.

Ok thanks – a hank is ..? some sort of loose wound silk ball i guess.

A skein, might be more appropriate. I’m no spinner.

justin said:

painmaster said:

justin said:

five inches is not overly small.
they all have wrinkled faces and look old.
i will keep observing them at my place and keep learning.

I am talking to the tip of their tail…

there are the large 300-450mm and more beardos here – but the sightings in my close-to-the-house garden have been of a smaller sort and they don’t act like juveniles.
i will get to the bottom of this _ in time.

Jacky Lizard?

You know the bundles of embroidery cotton…they are hanks.

old mans beard has turned to fluff

P1 – the garlic just died early – so did the spuds – all a bit immature
P2 – bouganvilea
P3 – our new hammock beneath the carobs

is this a catydid?

P1 – carrots and self sown lettuce
P2 – some of the beans are flowering
P3 – we’ve already had meals from the spinach
P4 – corn

i have divided the lemongrass and taken off all the dead leaves. hopefully it will get more water this year.

justin said:

is this a catydid?

Not a katydid AFAIK but more likely wood hopper.

justin said:

P1 – the garlic just died early – so did the spuds – all a bit immature
P2 – bouganvilea
P3 – our new hammock beneath the carobs

your carobs look great!

roughbarked said:

justin said:

is this a catydid?

Not a katydid AFAIK but more likely wood hopper.

Litter Hopper is another common name… but it does almost look like a Prickly Katydid.. Phricta sp.

justin said:

i have divided the lemongrass and taken off all the dead leaves. hopefully it will get more water this year.

looks healthy enough!

Not a katydid AFAIK but more likely wood hopper.

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many thanks for the ID

painmaster said:

justin said:

P1 – the garlic just died early – so did the spuds – all a bit immature
P2 – bouganvilea
P3 – our new hammock beneath the carobs

your carobs look great!

they do provide deep summer shade – and i will get around to making carob powder one day.

Litter Hopper is another common name… but it does almost look like a Prickly Katydid.. Phricta sp.

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many thanks PM – i will research its diet

justin said:

Litter Hopper is another common name… but it does almost look like a Prickly Katydid.. Phricta sp.

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many thanks PM – i will research its diet

They eat gum trees, my small memory says.. My memory isn’t always correct though.

it’s weird – but i think providing these ants with a bowl of water has pacified them. they are no longer in my compost and seem less threatening somehow.

from the top – the allherb pomolo sent down south is doing well in a pot – quandong growing well in a poa – first echinacea flower – first sedum flower – sedge grass (?) flower

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the only ‘good’ shot’ for today – my pergola starring new bamboo overhead

nice.. wish my place was so neat and clean.

sebago spuds – i only got a five to one return on them – so weak numbers but good taste.
the purple are ‘purple jester’ – an experiment and only one to one return

blue dragon – unloved for 15 years but still sitting in the shed.

is this the souwesterly change??

justin said:

blue dragon – unloved for 15 years but still sitting in the shed.

Evie will love to play with that in a few years time

justin said:

sebago spuds – i only got a five to one return on them – so weak numbers but good taste.
the purple are ‘purple jester’ – an experiment and only one to one return

Well done! they look lovely …

justin said:

blue dragon – unloved for 15 years but still sitting in the shed.

I think they’re back in fashion…kinda…

justin said:

is this the souwesterly change??

Looks like a “fuel load” across the road…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

sebago spuds – i only got a five to one return on them – so weak numbers but good taste.
the purple are ‘purple jester’ – an experiment and only one to one return

Well done! they look lovely …

are the purple jesters purple all the way through?

are the purple jesters purple all the way through?

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blue dragon was a racer in her day – abandoned when a two-wheeler was mastered.
they might be back in fashion dinetta but i have been ordered to keep it.

yes purple all the way thru’ – i haven’t tasted yet.

..and yeah the cool change is here.

Looks like a “fuel load” across the road…

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a crop of … wheat? …. ready for harvest
fire season starts december 1st.

justin said:

Looks like a “fuel load” across the road…

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a crop of … wheat? …. ready for harvest
fire season starts december 1st.

Ah, OK, it just looks like grass from where I’m sitting…would the SA farmers still be harvesting their wheat right now? Ours (our farmers’ wheat) came off about a month ago…

justin said:

blue dragon – unloved for 15 years but still sitting in the shed.

so it was only 1997 that you last rode this beast?

so it was only 1997 that you last rode this beast?

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my daughter last rode it – we bought it for her – so i never did burnouts in it.

aphrodite cost a small fortune at the vet because of an infected toe _ mumble mumble….

more corn (F1 and …. bicolour?), beans (butter and hawksbury), sweet basil, roma toms planted.

bluddy earwigs, millipedes and slaters in meganumbers are eating all my seedlings!
linseed oil traps are now in full operation and catching hundreds of them.

my daughter has a cold and a stray rabbit. taking over food for human and rabbit plus hutch and bedding straw tomorrow.

i’m exhausted.

justin said:

i’m exhausted.

So tonight you sleep the rest of the just?

So how did Aphrodite get an infected toe?

Dinetta said:

justin said:

i’m exhausted.

So tonight you sleep the rest of the just?

So how did Aphrodite get an infected toe?

grass seed we think – she was limping on her front feet to throw us off the scent – her infested foot was left rear side

P1 – my daughter has rescued this southern rosella – she was told she was cruel and should have it put down – but she backed her better judgement – paid a vet $100 for proper advice and now it is feeding and flapping its wings again.
P2 – i’m a first time ochra grower – they need trellises i presume.
P3 – died broad beans – do i nuke them now BG? and for how long? thanks.

sorry – submit is very close to the preview button

corn has been top dressed with the henhouse deep litter – my new pergola has meant my first crop of grapes from a six year old vine – the pergola also means i have cool chook all summer long.

P1 – eggplant, capsicum and cueys just beginning to establish –
P2 – asparagus now – is this OK? i’ve stopped picking spears.
P3 – toms just producing a few small fruit at present.

justin said:

P1 – my daughter has rescued this southern rosella – she was told she was cruel and should have it put down – but she backed her better judgement – paid a vet $100 for proper advice and now it is feeding and flapping its wings again.
P2 – i’m a first time ochra grower – they need trellises i presume.
P3 – died broad beans – do i nuke them now BG? and for how long? thanks.

aawww for the Rosella.

shell the beans, put in a zip-loc bag and put in the freezer for 48 hours. Take them out of freezer and plastic bag for a few days to make sure they are well and truly dry then you can store in dry place in a suitable container.

justin said:

P1 – eggplant, capsicum and cueys just beginning to establish –
P2 – asparagus now – is this OK? i’ve stopped picking spears.
P3 – toms just producing a few small fruit at present.

my eggplant, capsicum and cueys are just a little behind yours although my cueys might decided to turn their toes up instead. you are way ahead on tomatoes. Asparagus looks OK to me.

Okra is easy to grow.. no real need for trellising

Just not all that exciting to eat.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

P1 – my daughter has rescued this southern rosella – she was told she was cruel and should have it put down – but she backed her better judgement – paid a vet $100 for proper advice and now it is feeding and flapping its wings again.
P2 – i’m a first time ochra grower – they need trellises i presume.
P3 – died broad beans – do i nuke them now BG? and for how long? thanks.

aawww for the Rosella.

shell the beans, put in a zip-loc bag and put in the freezer for 48 hours. Take them out of freezer and plastic bag for a few days to make sure they are well and truly dry then you can store in dry place in a suitable container.

thanks – noted

roughbarked said:

Okra is easy to grow.. no real need for trellising

Just not all that exciting to eat.

i have recipes in ‘curry kitchen’ – they are OK in curries – more of a filler like spuds. i still might trellis or – find a spot where they can sprawl.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

P1 – eggplant, capsicum and cueys just beginning to establish –
P2 – asparagus now – is this OK? i’ve stopped picking spears.
P3 – toms just producing a few small fruit at present.

my eggplant, capsicum and cueys are just a little behind yours although my cueys might decided to turn their toes up instead. you are way ahead on tomatoes. Asparagus looks OK to me.

my toms are in 50%+ shade – because i thought we were going to get some more heat then we have had.
my cuey is an october baby and is just beginning to move now – a tad slow.

justin said:

roughbarked said:

Okra is easy to grow.. no real need for trellising

Just not all that exciting to eat.

i have recipes in ‘curry kitchen’ – they are OK in curries – more of a filler like spuds. i still might trellis or – find a spot where they can sprawl.

Okra plants are quite erect with strong stems and don’t bear many kilos of crop weight.

They taste rather slimy. Perhaps though this may enhance certain recipes.

justin said:

P1 – my daughter has rescued this southern rosella – she was told she was cruel and should have it put down – but she backed her better judgement – paid a vet $100 for proper advice and now it is feeding and flapping its wings again.
P2 – i’m a first time ochra grower – they need trellises i presume.
P3 – died broad beans – do i nuke them now BG? and for how long? thanks.

What a good daughter you have.

justin said:

P1 – eggplant, capsicum and cueys just beginning to establish –
P2 – asparagus now – is this OK? i’ve stopped picking spears.
P3 – toms just producing a few small fruit at present.

Tomatoes look good. Wish ours did.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

P1 – eggplant, capsicum and cueys just beginning to establish –
P2 – asparagus now – is this OK? i’ve stopped picking spears.
P3 – toms just producing a few small fruit at present.

my eggplant, capsicum and cueys are just a little behind yours although my cueys might decided to turn their toes up instead. you are way ahead on tomatoes. Asparagus looks OK to me.

D ate our first cucumber yesterday. Lots more coming.

I reckon that asparagus looks just fine. I stopped picking last week. It’s usually the first or second week in December.

I’ve always let the cucumbers sprawl….I think a tripod looks like a Very Good Idea. I shall steal it. The seeds are in and just germinated (2 leaf), so I’ll implement to idea tomorrow morning.

buffy said:

I reckon that asparagus looks just fine. I stopped picking last week. It’s usually the first or second week in December.

I’ve always let the cucumbers sprawl….I think a tripod looks like a Very Good Idea. I shall steal it. The seeds are in and just germinated (2 leaf), so I’ll implement to idea tomorrow morning.

thanks for the asparagus comment and welcome to tripods. if you can get long stakes (say 4 metres long) from native pine forests they are the best for spectacular tripods of beans.

justin said:

P1 – my daughter has rescued this southern rosella – she was told she was cruel and should have it put down – but she backed her better judgement – paid a vet $100 for proper advice and now it is feeding and flapping its wings again.
P2 – i’m a first time ochra grower – they need trellises i presume.
P3 – died broad beans – do i nuke them now BG? and for how long? thanks.

Okra as in the Hibiscus version? Becomes a bit of a shrub, so just a stake for support if required…

I have a garden arch that I bought very cheaply off a chuckout table some years ago…..beans are good on that. And we also have a 7ft wire fence for growing them up. Although last year I grew bush beans.

I like to grow beans that are not green. Much easier to pick yellow, purple or splashed ones as you can see them amongst the leaves.

painmaster said:

justin said:

P1 – my daughter has rescued this southern rosella – she was told she was cruel and should have it put down – but she backed her better judgement – paid a vet $100 for proper advice and now it is feeding and flapping its wings again.
P2 – i’m a first time ochra grower – they need trellises i presume.
P3 – died broad beans – do i nuke them now BG? and for how long? thanks.

Okra as in the Hibiscus version? Becomes a bit of a shrub, so just a stake for support if required…

thanks – do you cook with it?

buffy said:

I like to grow beans that are not green. Much easier to pick yellow, purple or splashed ones as you can see them amongst the leaves.

i know purple beans but not the others – interesting,,,,,,

justin said:

roughbarked said:

Okra is easy to grow.. no real need for trellising

Just not all that exciting to eat.

i have recipes in ‘curry kitchen’ – they are OK in curries – more of a filler like spuds. i still might trellis or – find a spot where they can sprawl.

we eat them in curries, they’re no potato though.

Yellow beans aka butter beans.

I’ll find some pictures of the other ones for you.

“butter beans”

http://www.diggers.com.au/shop/product/S0112/BEAN%20AUSTRALIAN%20BUTTER.aspx

I can recommend Dragon’s Tongue (well, grows well in my area, anyway!)

http://www.diggers.com.au/shop/product/S010/BEAN%20DRAGONS%20TONGUE.aspx

And Rattlesnake too

http://www.diggers.com.au/shop/product/S020/BEAN%20RATTLESNAKE%20CLIMBING.aspx

I like both these so much I have bought Digger’s larger packs and am sharing them with friends and family.

justin said:

painmaster said:

justin said:

P1 – my daughter has rescued this southern rosella – she was told she was cruel and should have it put down – but she backed her better judgement – paid a vet $100 for proper advice and now it is feeding and flapping its wings again.
P2 – i’m a first time ochra grower – they need trellises i presume.
P3 – died broad beans – do i nuke them now BG? and for how long? thanks.

Okra as in the Hibiscus version? Becomes a bit of a shrub, so just a stake for support if required…

thanks – do you cook with it?

sure do, always have an okra plant in the garden. Roughy is right, they can be a bit slimy and in some recipes it is very noticeable. Works well in Gumbo. We find it works best just fried with a whole bunch of Indian spices, cumin, cloves, coriander, turmeric, and garlic… some chile too. Serve that as a side to your main dish. Works well.

buffy said:

I can recommend Dragon’s Tongue (well, grows well in my area, anyway!)

http://www.diggers.com.au/shop/product/S010/BEAN%20DRAGONS%20TONGUE.aspx

And Rattlesnake too

http://www.diggers.com.au/shop/product/S020/BEAN%20RATTLESNAKE%20CLIMBING.aspx

I like both these so much I have bought Digger’s larger packs and am sharing them with friends and family.

powerful stuff – not only the names and beans but – that they are stocked and recommended.
my oh my – have i got time for this year? i have the prepared land by fences.

painmaster said:

justin said:

painmaster said:

Okra as in the Hibiscus version? Becomes a bit of a shrub, so just a stake for support if required…

thanks – do you cook with it?

sure do, always have an okra plant in the garden. Roughy is right, they can be a bit slimy and in some recipes it is very noticeable. Works well in Gumbo. We find it works best just fried with a whole bunch of Indian spices, cumin, cloves, coriander, turmeric, and garlic… some chile too. Serve that as a side to your main dish. Works well.

that’s about the style of ‘curry kitchen’ too – side dish yes but for vegos its often a main course with rice.

justin said:

painmaster said:

justin said:

thanks – do you cook with it?

sure do, always have an okra plant in the garden. Roughy is right, they can be a bit slimy and in some recipes it is very noticeable. Works well in Gumbo. We find it works best just fried with a whole bunch of Indian spices, cumin, cloves, coriander, turmeric, and garlic… some chile too. Serve that as a side to your main dish. Works well.

that’s about the style of ‘curry kitchen’ too – side dish yes but for vegos its often a main course with rice.

you wouldn’t be looking at Okra as your main vego dish… they are hollow and thin walled and I don’t know how much value they have for your diet. Your main vego dish of a pulse or a potato curry would be complimented well by okra as a side.

painmaster said:

justin said:

painmaster said:

sure do, always have an okra plant in the garden. Roughy is right, they can be a bit slimy and in some recipes it is very noticeable. Works well in Gumbo. We find it works best just fried with a whole bunch of Indian spices, cumin, cloves, coriander, turmeric, and garlic… some chile too. Serve that as a side to your main dish. Works well.

that’s about the style of ‘curry kitchen’ too – side dish yes but for vegos its often a main course with rice.

you wouldn’t be looking at Okra as your main vego dish… they are hollow and thin walled and I don’t know how much value they have for your diet. Your main vego dish of a pulse or a potato curry would be complimented well by okra as a side.

There is ‘Kashmiri okra and cauliflower curry’ or ‘Mixed vegetable curry’ where ocra is one of the ingredients. These are made in a single saucepan and served with rice. Not fancy but easy and different to typical western fare.

>>my oh my – have i got time for this year? i have the prepared land by fences.<<

Only one of them is a climber. It does climb high though, it’ll do a 6ft fence. But you can always just train the tops alongwise if you need to.

And yes, of course there is enough time. It can be your ‘late’ planting if you want to think of it that way.

(I’ve forgotten where you are, but it’s more North than me, I remember that)

buffy said:

>>my oh my – have i got time for this year? i have the prepared land by fences.<<

Only one of them is a climber. It does climb high though, it’ll do a 6ft fence. But you can always just train the tops alongwise if you need to.

And yes, of course there is enough time. It can be your ‘late’ planting if you want to think of it that way.

(I’ve forgotten where you are, but it’s more North than me, I remember that)

the northernmost suburb of adelaide – gawler.
we are hot and no frosts – so you are right.
i must give it a go.
do you just shell them or do you cook shell and all?

justin said:

painmaster said:

justin said:

that’s about the style of ‘curry kitchen’ too – side dish yes but for vegos its often a main course with rice.

you wouldn’t be looking at Okra as your main vego dish… they are hollow and thin walled and I don’t know how much value they have for your diet. Your main vego dish of a pulse or a potato curry would be complimented well by okra as a side.

There is ‘Kashmiri okra and cauliflower curry’ or ‘Mixed vegetable curry’ where ocra is one of the ingredients. These are made in a single saucepan and served with rice. Not fancy but easy and different to typical western fare.

sounds good. Cauliflower would work well.

buffy said:

I like to grow beans that are not green. Much easier to pick yellow, purple or splashed ones as you can see them amongst the leaves.

Now I never thought of that. I agree they are hard to see. Broad beans being the one I have in mind.

buffy said:

Yellow beans aka butter beans.

I’ll find some pictures of the other ones for you.

I know they don’t do coloured broad beans but I can wish.

You can get broad beans with lovely red flowers….but not the beans themselves. I don’t find the broad beans that hard to see really, it’s the green beans.

>>do you just shell them or do you cook shell and all?<<

Those ones are French beans, I pick them young and eat them whole (well, topped and tailed). Diggers do have some other ones for podding beans, but I don’t grow them at this stage.

justin said:

the northernmost suburb of adelaide – gawler.

Geez, has Adelaide finally reached Gawler? I went to a Christmas party there, 1981…

justin said:

buffy said:

I can recommend Dragon’s Tongue (well, grows well in my area, anyway!)

http://www.diggers.com.au/shop/product/S010/BEAN%20DRAGONS%20TONGUE.aspx

And Rattlesnake too

http://www.diggers.com.au/shop/product/S020/BEAN%20RATTLESNAKE%20CLIMBING.aspx

I like both these so much I have bought Digger’s larger packs and am sharing them with friends and family.

powerful stuff – not only the names and beans but – that they are stocked and recommended.
my oh my – have i got time for this year? i have the prepared land by fences.

once you have some growing you can save seed for future plantings.

justin said:

buffy said:

I like to grow beans that are not green. Much easier to pick yellow, purple or splashed ones as you can see them amongst the leaves.

i know purple beans but not the others – interesting,,,,,,

butter beans are gorgeous.

painmaster said:

justin said:

painmaster said:

sure do, always have an okra plant in the garden. Roughy is right, they can be a bit slimy and in some recipes it is very noticeable. Works well in Gumbo. We find it works best just fried with a whole bunch of Indian spices, cumin, cloves, coriander, turmeric, and garlic… some chile too. Serve that as a side to your main dish. Works well.

that’s about the style of ‘curry kitchen’ too – side dish yes but for vegos its often a main course with rice.

you wouldn’t be looking at Okra as your main vego dish… they are hollow and thin walled and I don’t know how much value they have for your diet. Your main vego dish of a pulse or a potato curry would be complimented well by okra as a side.

beans, rice with okra or the potato curry too but okra always goes well with beans.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

buffy said:

I can recommend Dragon’s Tongue (well, grows well in my area, anyway!)
http://www.diggers.com.au/shop/product/S010/BEAN%20DRAGONS%20TONGUE.aspx
And Rattlesnake too
http://www.diggers.com.au/shop/product/S020/BEAN%20RATTLESNAKE%20CLIMBING.aspx
I like both these so much I have bought Digger’s larger packs and am sharing them with friends and family.

powerful stuff – not only the names and beans but – that they are stocked and recommended.
my oh my – have i got time for this year? i have the prepared land by fences.

once you have some growing you can save seed for future plantings.

i’m going to pike out for this year because they want $16 for 40 seeds – $6 of that is postage
i’ll put in a bigger order – i need nonhybrid corn again (ironic eh?) and a few others.

my first corn, cueys and toms for this season.
like most of yous i’m having to work hard for the produce this year !

Fresh! I’m feeling hungry now…just one more wall, part of the floor and I can shower ready for dinner…

justin said:

my first corn, cueys and toms for this season.
like most of yous i’m having to work hard for the produce this year !

nice! my harvest has had a set back, I came home to Peter Pan in the vege patch! Many plants severely pruned and others trampled on. Some will come back, others are not worth saving.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

my first corn, cueys and toms for this season.
like most of yous i’m having to work hard for the produce this year !

nice! my harvest has had a set back, I came home to Peter Pan in the vege patch! Many plants severely pruned and others trampled on. Some will come back, others are not worth saving.

having said that I just dug up some nice spuds :)

bluegreen said:

nice! my harvest has had a set back, I came home to Peter Pan in the vege patch! Many plants severely pruned and others trampled on. Some will come back, others are not worth saving.

Norty! How did he manage that?

Dinetta said:

bluegreen said:

nice! my harvest has had a set back, I came home to Peter Pan in the vege patch! Many plants severely pruned and others trampled on. Some will come back, others are not worth saving.

Norty! How did he manage that?

a section of the plastic netting was damaged. He may have cut through with his hooves trying to get in. It is not really sheep proof, more of a deterrent. I have repaired the breach and he hasn’t tried to get in again.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

my first corn, cueys and toms for this season.
like most of yous i’m having to work hard for the produce this year !

nice! my harvest has had a set back, I came home to Peter Pan in the vege patch! Many plants severely pruned and others trampled on. Some will come back, others are not worth saving.

oh dear – good frnces are going to be crucial at your place.
i’ve lost – lettuce, radish, casuarina and bottlebrush to a coupla roaming bunnies.

bluegreen said:

bluegreen said:

justin said:

my first corn, cueys and toms for this season.
like most of yous i’m having to work hard for the produce this year !

nice! my harvest has had a set back, I came home to Peter Pan in the vege patch! Many plants severely pruned and others trampled on. Some will come back, others are not worth saving.

having said that I just dug up some nice spuds :)

excellent – enjoy them in good health
i have good spuds in storage – but i’m not confident of much excess this year.
good to hear q’billies are getting some elixir from the sky.
- it means there is some wet stuff around.

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

bluegreen said:

nice! my harvest has had a set back, I came home to Peter Pan in the vege patch! Many plants severely pruned and others trampled on. Some will come back, others are not worth saving.

Norty! How did he manage that?

a section of the plastic netting was damaged. He may have cut through with his hooves trying to get in. It is not really sheep proof, more of a deterrent. I have repaired the breach and he hasn’t tried to get in again.

I seem to remember saying that it wouldn’t hinder a determined beastie.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

Norty! How did he manage that?

a section of the plastic netting was damaged. He may have cut through with his hooves trying to get in. It is not really sheep proof, more of a deterrent. I have repaired the breach and he hasn’t tried to get in again.

I seem to remember saying that it wouldn’t hinder a determined beastie.

indeed :)

these are burpless cueys growing up an inclined trellis – cueys do climb this easier then a tripod.
whether the fruit are going to be pickable remains to be seen.

justin said:

my first corn, cueys and toms for this season.
like most of yous i’m having to work hard for the produce this year !

Our cucumbers are a bit ahead of yours. Tomatoes too. Corn is way behind. Cobs just starting to form. Must have to do with planting times.

bluegreen said:

bluegreen said:

justin said:

my first corn, cueys and toms for this season.
like most of yous i’m having to work hard for the produce this year !

nice! my harvest has had a set back, I came home to Peter Pan in the vege patch! Many plants severely pruned and others trampled on. Some will come back, others are not worth saving.

having said that I just dug up some nice spuds :)

speaking of spuds……….D’s cousin rang today and he is a retired potato farmer from the Atherton tablelands. D asked him what was wrong with our spud plants and he said it sounded like a disease in the soil, not just the 28spot lady beetle. Although we have good tomatoes growing atm he wasn’t convinced it was anything other than the soil that’s the problem. He’s passed on some tips for D to try next time.

pomolo said:

speaking of spuds……….D’s cousin rang today and he is a retired potato farmer from the Atherton tablelands. D asked him what was wrong with our spud plants and he said it sounded like a disease in the soil, not just the 28spot lady beetle. Although we have good tomatoes growing atm he wasn’t convinced it was anything other than the soil that’s the problem. He’s passed on some tips for D to try next time.

Aren’t tomatoes and potatoes in the same Family or something?

justin said:

bluegreen said:

bluegreen said:

nice! my harvest has had a set back, I came home to Peter Pan in the vege patch! Many plants severely pruned and others trampled on. Some will come back, others are not worth saving.

having said that I just dug up some nice spuds :)

excellent – enjoy them in good health
i have good spuds in storage – but i’m not confident of much excess this year.
good to hear q’billies are getting some elixir from the sky.
- it means there is some wet stuff around.

Lovely big fluffy grey clods passing over all morning but no rain to give out it seems.

Dinetta said:

pomolo said:

speaking of spuds……….D’s cousin rang today and he is a retired potato farmer from the Atherton tablelands. D asked him what was wrong with our spud plants and he said it sounded like a disease in the soil, not just the 28spot lady beetle. Although we have good tomatoes growing atm he wasn’t convinced it was anything other than the soil that’s the problem. He’s passed on some tips for D to try next time.

Aren’t tomatoes and potatoes in the same Family or something?

Exactly. that’s why cousin asked if we were growing tomatoes in the same area. Soil disease should affect tomatoes as well, I thought.

msJ has taken the pots back into her control this year – and i have to admit they are forming some nice little nooks where there were bare walls before.

justin said:

msJ has taken the pots back into her control this year – and i have to admit they are forming some nice little nooks where there were bare walls before.

Amazing how a few pots, judiciously placed, make a spot more liveable…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

msJ has taken the pots back into her control this year – and i have to admit they are forming some nice little nooks where there were bare walls before.

Amazing how a few pots, judiciously placed, make a spot more liveable…

it is actually art.. :)

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Amazing how a few pots, judiciously placed, make a spot more liveable…

it is actually art.. :)

Shape and form, yes…