Date: 17/09/2012 17:02:32
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 200684
Subject: Methyl Alcohol

Metho is toxic if drunk, but can you get a toxic dose by breathing the fumes or absorbed through the skin?

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:04:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 200686
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

bob(from black rock) said:


Metho is toxic if drunk, but can you get a toxic dose by breathing the fumes or absorbed through the skin?

You’d need to be soaked in it for a while to get pikled but I’m sure tha you couldn’t breathe it for very long.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:09:04
From: sibeen
ID: 200687
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

>Metho is toxic if drunk,

Chemist boy, will know better, but I thought metho was only poisonous because of additives, and the only reason that the additives were added was to stop people drinking it.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:12:29
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 200688
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

roughbarked said:


bob(from black rock) said:

Metho is toxic if drunk, but can you get a toxic dose by breathing the fumes or absorbed through the skin?

You’d need to be soaked in it for a while to get pikled but I’m sure tha you couldn’t breathe it for very long.

So rubbing it on your skin to relieve itching from insect bites shouldn’t be risky?

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:13:54
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 200689
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

sibeen said:


>Metho is toxic if drunk,

Chemist boy, will know better, but I thought metho was only poisonous because of additives, and the only reason that the additives were added was to stop people drinking it.

sibeen that’s my understanding too.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:14:12
From: Divine Angel
ID: 200690
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

I wouldn’t think so. Plenty of people use it on their skin for different reasons and they’re all OK.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:16:12
From: Angus Prune
ID: 200692
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

sibeen said:


>Metho is toxic if drunk,

Chemist boy, will know better, but I thought metho was only poisonous because of additives, and the only reason that the additives were added was to stop people drinking it.

That’s methylated spirits, which is ethanol plus denaturing agents. Methyl alcohol is methanol. I’m not sure which one the OP really means.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:16:20
From: roughbarked
ID: 200693
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

sibeen said:


>Metho is toxic if drunk,

Chemist boy, will know better, but I thought metho was only poisonous because of additives, and the only reason that the additives were added was to stop people drinking it.

The additives are there to make it smell. It doesn’t stop people drinking it. Giving them enough money to buy beer or wine does.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:16:27
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 200694
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

Divine Angel said:


I wouldn’t think so. Plenty of people use it on their skin for different reasons and they’re all OK.

D A thankyou.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:16:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 200696
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

bob(from black rock) said:


roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Metho is toxic if drunk, but can you get a toxic dose by breathing the fumes or absorbed through the skin?

You’d need to be soaked in it for a while to get pikled but I’m sure tha you couldn’t breathe it for very long.

So rubbing it on your skin to relieve itching from insect bites shouldn’t be risky?

no risk at all.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:19:33
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 200697
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

roughbarked said:


bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

You’d need to be soaked in it for a while to get pikled but I’m sure tha you couldn’t breathe it for very long.

So rubbing it on your skin to relieve itching from insect bites shouldn’t be risky?

no risk at all.

roughbarked, thanks.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:43:44
From: morrie
ID: 200701
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

I am pretty sure you mean methylated spirits bob. I think you would be best to dilute it to around 50% before using it, but otherwise it should be ok.

Methanol on the other hand is toxic by absorption and inhalation as well as ingestion.

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Date: 17/09/2012 17:59:29
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 200714
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

morrie said:


I am pretty sure you mean methylated spirits bob. I think you would be best to dilute it to around 50% before using it, but otherwise it should be ok.

Methanol on the other hand is toxic by absorption and inhalation as well as ingestion.

morrie, thanks, yes methylated spirits like you buy at the supermarket.

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Date: 17/09/2012 18:06:46
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 200721
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

What did you GP say, Bob? Did they prescribed this regime?

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Date: 17/09/2012 18:10:20
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 200723
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

neomyrtus_ said:


What did you GP say, Bob? Did they prescribed this regime?

neo didn’t ask my GP just wiped an itchy insect bite with a metho soaked rag, fixed the itch.

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Date: 17/09/2012 18:10:46
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 200724
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

if this regime was not specifically prescribed by the doctor who saw and treated these bites:

The straight, undiluted methylated spirits = ethanol on abraded and irritated skin will dry the skin and damage live cells in the skin which have been exposed by scratching. It can damage skin (a search on some publications).

The reason why the meths may be working is:

1: it cools the skin – iced water or ice packs are usually advised to relive inflammation and itch.

2: it irritates the already damage skin, thus “blocking” or overriding the itch sensation.

If you have puritis and inflammation and infection caused by insect / spider bites – poikiolotherm and OCDC or your GP will advise on a course of topical corticosteroids, a topical antiseptic like chlorhexidine (in cream or diluted as a wash) and antihistamines which are better solutions to rubbing meths on what appears to have become a persistent problem and one that has already been treated with antibiotics.

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Date: 17/09/2012 18:11:56
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 200725
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

In short

see your doctor

chat to your pharmacist

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Date: 17/09/2012 18:13:37
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 200726
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

neomyrtus_ said:


In short

see your doctor

chat to your pharmacist

neo, thanks.

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Date: 17/09/2012 18:31:40
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 200728
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

nobody here :

a: has seen your skin condition first hand

b: is qualified to to diagnose (as a primary carer) your skin condition and prescribe an appropriate treatment regime – with the exception of except OCDC or Poik or Wen.

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Date: 17/09/2012 18:32:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 200729
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

bob(from black rock) said:


neomyrtus_ said:

In short

see your doctor

chat to your pharmacist

neo, thanks.

Yes. This is the correct advice. As mentioned .. metho can dry out the skin, particularly if already abraded and yes it is the evaporation of the alcohol that is cooling.

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Date: 17/09/2012 19:00:14
From: buffy
ID: 200740
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

Was it bob who had the insect bites/shingles/? whatever? Are we still talking about the same thing?

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Date: 17/09/2012 19:13:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 200743
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

buffy said:

Was it bob who had the insect bites/shingles/? whatever? Are we still talking about the same thing?

apparently we are.. though it wasn’t immediately apparent to all.

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Date: 17/09/2012 19:45:22
From: morrie
ID: 200765
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

Was it bob who had the insect bites/shingles/? whatever? Are we still talking about the same thing?

apparently we are.. though it wasn’t immediately apparent to all.


He said an insect bite. I’m sure bob said he saw the doc about the other skin condition.

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Date: 18/09/2012 11:46:44
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 201016
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

morrie said:


roughbarked said:

buffy said:

Was it bob who had the insect bites/shingles/? whatever? Are we still talking about the same thing?

apparently we are.. though it wasn’t immediately apparent to all.


He said an insect bite. I’m sure bob said he saw the doc about the other skin condition.

Hi folks, yes two different problems, didn’t use metho on the shingles which is now more or less OK, and just wondering if rubbing metho on the skin is dangerous or not.

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Date: 18/09/2012 11:48:53
From: Boris
ID: 201019
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

and just wondering if rubbing metho on the skin is dangerous or not.

just keep away from naked flames. though i can’t imagine it’d do your skin much good.

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Date: 18/09/2012 14:09:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 201047
Subject: re: Methyl Alcohol

Boris said:


and just wondering if rubbing metho on the skin is dangerous or not.

just keep away from naked flames. though i can’t imagine it’d do your skin much good.

It is marginally effective for relieving the pain from insect stings.. needs to be applied often and yes, would perhaps cause some drying of the skin if over applied.

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