Date: 30/09/2012 13:21:46
From: wookiemeister
ID: 206263
Subject: "knowing"

After seeing the movie “knowing” it left me somewhat depressed

Heres the plot

In 1959, student Lucinda Embry hears whispers as she stares at the sun. Later, she writes a page of seemingly random numbers and adds it to her school’s time capsule, set to be opened in 50 years.

In 2009, Caleb Koestler is a student at the same school. When the time capsule is opened, Caleb is supposed to read and write about some of the capsule’s contents. He’s given the page of numbers written by Lucinda. His widowed father Jonathan (Nicolas Cage), a professor of astrophysics at MIT, notices the numbers have a specific set of sequences referring to the times and locations of fatal disasters over the last 50 years, including 911012996 (the date and death toll of the 9/11 attacks). The last three sets of digits are dated in the immediate future.

In the following days, a car drives by the family home with two strangers. They give Caleb a small smooth stone. Caleb later dreams of one of the strange men, who points to the window showing the world on fire with burning animals running out from the forest.

Jonathan tracks down Lucinda’s daughter Diana and granddaughter Abby. Though apprehensive and scared, Diana eventually decides to help Jonathan. She says that her mother used to hear voices and that the next date in the document, October 19, was the day Lucinda always said she would die.

Copy of Matthäus Merian’s engraving of Ezekiel’s “chariot vision” (1670)
Searching Lucinda’s mobile home, they find pictures of the disasters she predicted, a copy of Matthäus Merian’s engraving of Ezekiel’s “chariot vision”, and a pile of small smooth stones near Lucinda’s bed.

The last number in the document appears to be “33” but they notice that it is really “EE” written backwards. They figure out that EE means “Everyone Else”, representing a cataclysm that no one will escape.

Outside, more alien strangers walk up to the children waiting in the car. John drives them away only to have Abby say that the “whisper people” want her and Caleb to go with them.

The next day, John has a sudden revelation and rushes them to the MIT observatory, where he discovers that a massive solar flare will soon reach Earth, making it uninhabitable.

Diana wants to hide in some caves. John reluctantly agrees at first, but Diana decides to take the children and heads for the caves without him. As Jonathan chases after them, he calls Diana and tries to persuade her against relying on the caves. He warns her that the solar flare will penetrate miles under ground.

While Diana stops for gas, the aliens take the children. Diana chases them but is broadsided by a truck. John arrives at the accident just as Diana dies, finding the small stone in Diana’s hand. He goes back to Lucinda’s mobile home, finding the children and the aliens waiting in a dry river bed covered with the stones. A space ship descends from the sky. John is refused entry but allows his son to leave with the aliens. The ships departs with the children and a pair of rabbits, and a distant shot shows many similar vehicles leaving Earth.

The next morning the skies are on fire from the solar flare. John fights his way through the chaotic streets of Boston, arriving at his estranged father’s home. They embrace as the solar flare burns away the atmosphere and incinerates the surface of the Earth, destroying all life on the planet.

The film ends as Caleb and Abby are deposited by the aliens on an Earthlike planet. They are seen joyfully running through a beautiful mountain field towards a giant white tree

The end of the world is a favourite subject throughout history, every man and his dog sees the signs of the end of the world.

A more original approach (alternate ending ) would be this

The aliens ascend taking the kids and you see the whole fleet disappear into space. Nicholas cage returns to his dad and says “I know” to him after being asked by his religious father that “you know this isn’t the end?”

You see the blast from the sun start to scorch the surface of the moon suddenly just before hitting earth a point of light appears in space near earth and a huge object suddenly appears between the earth and the moon and the sun completely blocking the blast hitting the earth. Its stays in orbit until the short lived blast dies away and then disappears as quickly as it came.

The religious man knows that god exists

The scientist knows he doesn’t

The aliens think they know everything

Suddenly something else turns up that the aliens don’t know about, saves the earth and goes.

What was it? No one knows – not even the aliens

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Date: 30/09/2012 14:40:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 206275
Subject: re: "knowing"

>>What was it?

FIIK.

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Date: 30/09/2012 14:55:21
From: Kingy
ID: 206283
Subject: re: "knowing"

It was Al Gore dressed as Batman.

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Date: 30/09/2012 14:56:37
From: Divine Angel
ID: 206285
Subject: re: "knowing"

I remember that movie. I laughed inappropriately at the image of the two children at the end of the film. It seemed like expensive Christian propaganda to me :)

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Date: 30/09/2012 18:55:39
From: wookiemeister
ID: 206395
Subject: re: "knowing"

Peak Warming Man said:


>>What was it?

FIIK.


exactement

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Date: 30/09/2012 19:41:08
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 206408
Subject: re: "knowing"

I saw that movie in the cinema for free. Even then I felt ripped off.

It is like the script-writers started exploring all the free choice/determination stuff just before going out to lunch and never coming back, so the producers filled the end of the movie with special effects.

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Date: 30/09/2012 20:00:40
From: wookiemeister
ID: 206423
Subject: re: "knowing"

Carmen_Sandiego said:

I saw that movie in the cinema for free. Even then I felt ripped off.

It is like the script-writers started exploring all the free choice/determination stuff just before going out to lunch and never coming back, so the producers filled the end of the movie with special effects.


i just put my brain in a pot and went along for the ride

what i would not abide by is the destruction of the earth and aliens standing by and doing bugger all, no siree

this film needs to be revamped and repackaged

the special effects of the destruction of the earth could still be used in a dream sequance used to demonstrate what is to come later on in the day perhaps as a waking dream of nicholas cage.

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Date: 30/09/2012 20:03:37
From: monkey skipper
ID: 206424
Subject: re: "knowing"

Carmen_Sandiego said:

I saw that movie in the cinema for free. Even then I felt ripped off.

It is like the script-writers started exploring all the free choice/determination stuff just before going out to lunch and never coming back, so the producers filled the end of the movie with special effects.

The film started well but just ran out of legs towards the end.

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Date: 30/09/2012 20:03:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 206425
Subject: re: "knowing"

>>the special effects of the destruction of the earth

Well thanks very much, I was planning on watching it but now that you have given the plot ending away I wont bother, there are probably another 50 or so lurkers who had planned on doing the same, I hope you’re satisfied.

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Date: 30/09/2012 20:06:30
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 206427
Subject: re: "knowing"

Peak Warming Man said:

I was planning on watching it but now that you have given the plot ending away I wont bother, there are probably another 50 or so lurkers who had planned on doing the same, I hope you’re satisfied.

Consider it a community service then.

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