Date: 7/11/2012 13:47:01
From: robadob
ID: 225126
Subject: co2

if co2 is not hazards what would be the % in the atmosphere we breath for it to do us harm?
and what form would that harm be?

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Date: 7/11/2012 13:47:41
From: roughbarked
ID: 225127
Subject: re: co2

robadob said:


if co2 is not hazards what would be the % in the atmosphere we breath for it to do us harm?
and what form would that harm be?

deadly.

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Date: 7/11/2012 13:51:29
From: Boris
ID: 225130
Subject: re: co2

What are the main health hazards associated with breathing in carbon dioxide gas?

Carbon dioxide (CO2) is naturally present in the atmosphere at levels of approximately 0.035%. Short-term exposure to CO2 at levels below 2% (20,000 parts per million or ppm) has not been reported to cause harmful effects. Higher concentrations can affect respiratory function and cause excitation followed by depression of the central nervous system. High concentrations of CO2 can displace oxygen in the air, resulting in lower oxygen concentrations for breathing. Therefore, effects of oxygen deficiency may be combined with effects of CO2 toxicity.

Volunteers exposed to 3.3% or 5.4% CO2 for 15 minutes experienced increased depth of breathing. At 7.5%, a feeling of an inability to breathe (dyspnea), increased pulse rate, headache, dizziness, sweating, restlessness, disorientation, and visual distortion developed. Twenty-minute exposures to 6.5 or 7.5% decreased mental performance. Irritability and discomfort were reported with exposure to 6.5% for approximately 70 minutes. Exposure to 6% for several minutes, or 30% for 20-30 seconds, has affected the heart, as evidenced by altered electrocardiograms.

Workers briefly exposed to very high concentrations showed damage to the retina, sensitivity to light (photophobia), abnormal eye movements, constriction of visual fields, and enlargement of blind spots. Exposure to up to 3.0% for over 15 hours, for six days, resulted in decreased night vision and colour sensitivity.

Exposure to 10% for 1.5 minutes has caused eye flickering, excitation and increased muscle activity and twitching. Concentrations greater than 10% have caused difficulty in breathing, impaired hearing, nausea, vomiting, a strangling sensation, sweating, stupor within several minutes and loss of consciousness within 15 minutes. Exposure to 30% has quickly resulted in unconsciousness and convulsions. Several deaths have been attributed to exposure to concentrations greater than 20%. Effects of CO2 can become more pronounced upon physical exertion, such as heavy work.

http://www.ccohs.ca/oshanswers/chemicals/chem_profiles/carbon_dioxide/health_cd.html

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Date: 7/11/2012 13:57:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 225131
Subject: re: co2

Effects of CO2 can become more pronounced upon physical exertion

ie: stop work when above conditions become apparent.

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Date: 7/11/2012 13:58:03
From: Boris
ID: 225132
Subject: re: co2

for your future reference

% co2 hazardous to health

is what i asked google.

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Date: 7/11/2012 13:59:41
From: robadob
ID: 225133
Subject: re: co2

i worded it slightly different and was getting no were.

thanks

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Date: 7/11/2012 14:02:45
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 225134
Subject: re: co2

The WIKI page has some good information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#Toxicity

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Date: 7/11/2012 14:06:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 225135
Subject: re: co2

Carmen_Sandiego said:

The WIKI page has some good information.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carbon_dioxide#Toxicity

Yes it does but we have no excuses for pushing the risk limitations.

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Date: 7/11/2012 14:38:36
From: robadob
ID: 225144
Subject: re: co2

were at .035% but it seems not to be an issue till it gets over 1%

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Date: 7/11/2012 14:40:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 225146
Subject: re: co2

robadob said:


were at .035% but it seems not to be an issue till it gets over 1%

it is an issue if that is what you are breathing.

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Date: 7/11/2012 14:40:54
From: party_pants
ID: 225147
Subject: re: co2

robadob said:


were at .035% but it seems not to be an issue till it gets over 1%

Would be good for plants, but not for us.

(discounting any effects of increased global temperature)

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Date: 7/11/2012 14:47:57
From: robadob
ID: 225149
Subject: re: co2

the point im looking at is it is not spontaneously fatal at that leave

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Date: 7/11/2012 14:56:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 225156
Subject: re: co2

robadob said:


the point im looking at is it is not spontaneously fatal at that leave

that’s when you turn the fans on.

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:02:05
From: robadob
ID: 225159
Subject: re: co2

nothing to do with fans

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:07:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 225167
Subject: re: co2

robadob said:


nothing to do with fans

you know nothing about air currents.

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:31:17
From: robadob
ID: 225205
Subject: re: co2

wake and have a coffee.

my interest in this question has nothing to do with the environment.
just at what levels a human can operate in a rich CO2 environment with out dieing straight away

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:32:58
From: Boris
ID: 225209
Subject: re: co2

my interest in this question has nothing to do with the environment.
just at what levels a human can operate in a rich CO2 environment with out dieing straight away

c’mon, own up. you’re going to mars aren’t you?

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:39:28
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 225222
Subject: re: co2

robadob said:


wake and have a coffee.

my interest in this question has nothing to do with the environment.
just at what levels a human can operate in a rich CO2 environment with out dieing straight away

As the CO2 level in the blood increases so the breathing rate increases so if you are thinking about voluntary euthanasia, this is not a good way to go.

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:45:21
From: robadob
ID: 225231
Subject: re: co2

no.
was wondering if you needed to send people in to an area of high CO2 to perform a task that would have some benefit. how high could it be before those sent in would no longer be able to function.
not interested in long term effects.

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:46:14
From: robadob
ID: 225232
Subject: re: co2

would use his little brother CO for that job :)bob(from black rock) said:


robadob said:

wake and have a coffee.

my interest in this question has nothing to do with the environment.
just at what levels a human can operate in a rich CO2 environment with out dieing straight away

As the CO2 level in the blood increases so the breathing rate increases so if you are thinking about voluntary euthanasia, this is not a good way to go.

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:47:34
From: robadob
ID: 225234
Subject: re: co2

:)
no but if i was sending some one i need to know how long they could function if conditions weren’t perfect Boris said:


my interest in this question has nothing to do with the environment.
just at what levels a human can operate in a rich CO2 environment with out dieing straight away

c’mon, own up. you’re going to mars aren’t you?

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:53:50
From: Dropbear
ID: 225239
Subject: re: co2

Mitt has Binders full of Electoral Pins :)

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:54:49
From: Dropbear
ID: 225241
Subject: re: co2

oops

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Date: 7/11/2012 15:56:34
From: robadob
ID: 225244
Subject: re: co2

:)

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Date: 7/11/2012 16:09:18
From: Angus Prune
ID: 225254
Subject: re: co2

robadob said:


no.
was wondering if you needed to send people in to an area of high CO2 to perform a task that would have some benefit. how high could it be before those sent in would no longer be able to function.
not interested in long term effects.

Give ‘em SCBA.

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Date: 7/11/2012 16:21:59
From: robadob
ID: 225257
Subject: re: co2

no.. was just a thought.
give them SCBA. That cost money :).Angus Prune said:


robadob said:

no.
was wondering if you needed to send people in to an area of high CO2 to perform a task that would have some benefit. how high could it be before those sent in would no longer be able to function.
not interested in long term effects.

Give ‘em SCBA.

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Date: 7/11/2012 16:27:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 225261
Subject: re: co2

robadob said:


no.
was wondering if you needed to send people in to an area of high CO2 to perform a task that would have some benefit. how high could it be before those sent in would no longer be able to function.
not interested in long term effects.

there are none.. do not send them in without oxygen.

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