Date: 18/05/2008 11:44:03
From: cackles
ID: 14506
Subject: Clotheslines

http://www.theage.com.au/news/world/hanging-out-for-a-clean-fight/2008/05/09/1210131264633.html

I know some people in my family who would be very upset if Hills hoists were banned at their places!

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Date: 18/05/2008 11:50:02
From: Grasshopper
ID: 14508
Subject: re: Clotheslines

I would never be with ot my Hills—My Daughter got rid of hers—because it was —she said untidy looking—OMG !

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Date: 18/05/2008 11:51:02
From: bubba louie
ID: 14509
Subject: re: Clotheslines

I was talking to a young Canadian backpacker once and he was horrified at the thought of hanging his clothes out where people could see his undies. LOL

They all use driers. :(

I love my hills hoist.

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Date: 18/05/2008 11:52:55
From: bubba louie
ID: 14510
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Grasshopper said:


I would never be with ot my Hills—My Daughter got rid of hers—because it was —she said untidy looking—OMG !

Unforunitly many think like that. MrBL wants to replace our old one with a removable one before we sell. He thinks it will apeal to more buyers.

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Date: 18/05/2008 11:55:24
From: Grasshopper
ID: 14511
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Stuff what others see I am all for being pracital—I would hate not to have my loved Hills —have always had one and always will

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Date: 18/05/2008 11:58:55
From: Grasshopper
ID: 14512
Subject: re: Clotheslines

OMG I have read that —and what a load off (*&^—never heard of such *&%$

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Date: 18/05/2008 12:08:25
From: Grasshopper
ID: 14513
Subject: re: Clotheslines

I would hate to have to pay for clothes to be dried in a drier——must cost a fortune—and the want us to cut down—for global warming—give me a break—

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Date: 18/05/2008 12:11:41
From: cackles
ID: 14514
Subject: re: Clotheslines

The link was posted in the BYP – Off Beaten Track (members only area so a link is not much use to non-BYPers) – and it got some strong reactions there too! Lol.

The long lines with props work really well too – what we had on one property I spent time on. Really good in windy weather but you had to make sure things were securely pegged!

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Date: 18/05/2008 12:13:29
From: Lucky1
ID: 14515
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Grasshopper said:


I would hate to have to pay for clothes to be dried in a drier——must cost a fortune—and the want us to cut down—for global warming—give me a break—

Oh I agree… boy there are some stupid laws out there…. for crying out aloud…..

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Date: 18/05/2008 12:14:18
From: Lucky1
ID: 14517
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Also the sun is great for killing off bugs and germs the soap powder and water doesn’t poison or drown……

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Date: 18/05/2008 15:56:04
From: aquarium
ID: 14520
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Lucky1 said:


Also the sun is great for killing off bugs and germs the soap powder and water doesn’t poison or drown……

i beg to differ about the practicality of a hills hoist. it typically takes centre stage in a backyard. this position is much better for a vegie bed or even a tree or table & chairs. my laundry is on the side of the house, and hence i installed the bracket type clothesline, right next to the laundry, on the wall. some may hold their hills hoist in high sentimental esteem; i think it’s an eyesore.

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Date: 18/05/2008 16:48:54
From: bubba louie
ID: 14521
Subject: re: Clotheslines

aquarium said:


Lucky1 said:

Also the sun is great for killing off bugs and germs the soap powder and water doesn’t poison or drown……

i beg to differ about the practicality of a hills hoist. it typically takes centre stage in a backyard. this position is much better for a vegie bed or even a tree or table & chairs. my laundry is on the side of the house, and hence i installed the bracket type clothesline, right next to the laundry, on the wall. some may hold their hills hoist in high sentimental esteem; i think it’s an eyesore.

Bah Humbug. :P

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Date: 18/05/2008 16:55:38
From: orchid40
ID: 14522
Subject: re: Clotheslines

I agree, Aqua. The hoist is good in principle, but usually stuck somewhere in the middle of the lawn or garden making it an eyesore. We have a purpose built hole in the lawn for a hoist, which can be used or not. I use a folding bracket line outside the laundry which is more convenient and out of sight.

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Date: 18/05/2008 16:56:15
From: orchid40
ID: 14523
Subject: re: Clotheslines

bubba louie said:


aquarium said:

Lucky1 said:

Also the sun is great for killing off bugs and germs the soap powder and water doesn’t poison or drown……

i beg to differ about the practicality of a hills hoist. it typically takes centre stage in a backyard. this position is much better for a vegie bed or even a tree or table & chairs. my laundry is on the side of the house, and hence i installed the bracket type clothesline, right next to the laundry, on the wall. some may hold their hills hoist in high sentimental esteem; i think it’s an eyesore.

Bah Humbug. :P

:D

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Date: 18/05/2008 17:29:35
From: bubba louie
ID: 14524
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Our hills hoist has seen two generations of kids come and go, and has the scars to prove it. One side hangs down lower from being swung on, and I love it, a fine Aussie icon.

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Date: 18/05/2008 17:32:15
From: bubba louie
ID: 14525
Subject: re: Clotheslines

You can get covers for them to turn it into a giant shade umbrella. My grandparents recycled theirs into a fernery by growing a creeper all over it and their local paper even came and took a photo of it in full flower.

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Date: 18/05/2008 17:34:59
From: Happy Potter
ID: 14526
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Iv’e got the folding bracket one too..just past the fenery and near the laundry.

There’s a shed where the old hoist used to be.

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Date: 18/05/2008 20:40:51
From: Yeehah
ID: 14552
Subject: re: Clotheslines

orchid40 said:


bubba louie said:

aquarium said:

Lucky1 said:

Also the sun is great for killing off bugs and germs the soap powder and water doesn’t poison or drown……

i beg to differ about the practicality of a hills hoist. it typically takes centre stage in a backyard. this position is much better for a vegie bed or even a tree or table & chairs. my laundry is on the side of the house, and hence i installed the bracket type clothesline, right next to the laundry, on the wall. some may hold their hills hoist in high sentimental esteem; i think it’s an eyesore.

Bah Humbug. :P

:D

Beauty is in the eye of the beholder. I think a smacking great metal clothesline in the middle of the backyard is an environmental statement that is far more attractive than a clothes drier. And one of those dinky little stuck-on-the-wall jobbies (and I use the word ‘jobbies’ in the Billy Connolly sense) wouldn’t have a hope in hell of coping with weekend washing at my house.

Once upon a time most people thought that a vegie garden was an eyesore that had to be hidden down the back of the yard.

I happen to think that a purely ornamental garden is ugly. Why do people waste all that energy on growing something they only look at, when they could be growing something that takes gunk out of the atmosphere??

Why do people waste all that energy on putting their clothes in an electricity guzzling drier, when they could be utilising a iconic piece of lawn furniture that prevents gunk being spewed into the atmosphere??

steps off soapbox

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Date: 18/05/2008 20:43:45
From: veg gardener
ID: 14553
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Yeehah said:


Once upon a time most people thought that a vegie garden was an eyesore that had to be hidden down the back of the yard.

I happen to think that a purely ornamental garden is ugly. Why do people waste all that energy on growing something they only look at, when they could be growing something that takes gunk out of the atmosphere??

Why do people waste all that energy on putting their clothes in an electricity guzzling drier, when they could be utilising a iconic piece of lawn furniture that prevents gunk being spewed into the atmosphere??

steps off soapbox

yep i agree here with yeehah why do people say veggies should be growing out the back, guess what i have out the front of my house and 10×1M veggie garden and yeehah has even seen it. and i have veggie gardens out the back as well and only 1 Flower garden which isnt that big.

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Date: 18/05/2008 20:45:00
From: veg gardener
ID: 14555
Subject: re: Clotheslines

its also a waste of space having flowers i reckon you can only look at them and, not eat them put with veggies sweetpeas lets say i know i love the flowers on them and they are good to ear the peas off them so with some many other, types of veggies.

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Date: 18/05/2008 21:14:44
From: pepe
ID: 14557
Subject: re: Clotheslines

three years ago i installed a new hills hoist as part of this reno job. it has a paved yard at the back of the garage which it shares with herbs and a wood shed.
the rotary hoist is the most efficient clothes dryer. it dries by revolving as well as plain flapping in the wind.
it only costs $170 which is about the same as a paraline.
however it needs 20 sq.m. of space (4.8m circle) as opposed to the paraline’s 3 sq.m.
i can pull it out of its socket and fold it down if its in the way.
rotary hoists for me.

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Date: 18/05/2008 22:56:45
From: Happy Potter
ID: 14559
Subject: re: Clotheslines

“Why do people waste all that energy on growing something they only look at, when they could be growing something that takes gunk out of the atmosphere??”

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Flower’s are beautiful gift.

If I didn’t have flower’s to look at , then some of my saddest day’s would be spent seeing no beauty at all.

Beautiful flowers do for my soul , what healthy vegetables do for my health.

As Celia Thaxter penned,
“ He who is born with a silver spoon in his mouth is generally
considered a fortunate person, but his good fortune is small
compared to that of the happy mortal who enters this world
with a passion for flowers in his soul.”

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Date: 19/05/2008 01:05:58
From: wormhunter
ID: 14562
Subject: re: Clotheslines

aquarium said:


Lucky1 said:

Also the sun is great for killing off bugs and germs the soap powder and water doesn’t poison or drown……

i beg to differ about the practicality of a hills hoist. it typically takes centre stage in a backyard. this position is much better for a vegie bed or even a tree or table & chairs. my laundry is on the side of the house, and hence i installed the bracket type clothesline, right next to the laundry, on the wall. some may hold their hills hoist in high sentimental esteem; i think it’s an eyesore.

Great topic
Good to see some mature debating going on.

But I stand with Aquarium on this one.

Once again good topic to stir the sleepy forum.

The Canadians probably use driers cos its so bloody cold and moist over there.
You may think that its environmentally unfriendly but when you compare housing with ours, theres are much better insulated than some of the knock up jobs that get built here in the rapidly sprawling outer suburbs.

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Date: 19/05/2008 06:31:25
From: Grasshopper
ID: 14563
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Well I wash every day—and I find the Hills very good—I couldn’t be bothered pulling out a foldable line every day——I also leave the pegs on the line :))))

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Date: 19/05/2008 08:47:28
From: The Estate
ID: 14566
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Well my Hills turned into a Jacaranda tree LOLOLOL

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Date: 19/05/2008 10:20:39
From: pepe
ID: 14569
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Flower’s are beautiful gift. If I didn’t have flower’s to look at , then some of my saddest day’s would be spent seeing no beauty at all. Beautiful flowers do for my soul , what healthy vegetables do for my health.
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flowers are colour
i used a photo of a salvia plant to inspire the interior colours of my house.
a world without colour would be a lot more miserable.
try seeing the world in black and white and you’ll see what i mean.
basically i’m a vege grower but i think the ornamental gardens are the ‘other half’ – and i wouldn’t be without them.

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Date: 19/05/2008 10:25:14
From: pepe
ID: 14570
Subject: re: Clotheslines

The Estate said:


Well my Hills turned into a Jacaranda tree LOLOLOL

geez- you ornamental gardeners are very skilled. LOL.

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Date: 19/05/2008 10:30:05
From: orchid40
ID: 14571
Subject: re: Clotheslines

a world without colour would be a lot more miserable.
try seeing the world in black and white and you’ll see what i mean.
basically i’m a vege grower but i think the ornamental gardens are the ‘other half’ – and i wouldn’t be without them.

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I’m with you Pepe.
I love my flowers, they add beauty and colour and fragrance to my world and give me and my visitors much pleasure. However, I grow my own vegetables too, and recycle all waste products through composting and worm farms.
I had a hoist when the family were young, and it took up most of the back lawn. I would have been happier with a long line and a prop, which I had grown up with. I think that comes into it, what you’re used to.
We’ll have to agree to disagree, that’s what makes the world go round!

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Date: 19/05/2008 10:31:04
From: orchid40
ID: 14572
Subject: re: Clotheslines

pepe said:


The Estate said:

Well my Hills turned into a Jacaranda tree LOLOLOL

geez- you ornamental gardeners are very skilled. LOL.

REALLY Greenfingered or greenthumbed is out Thee! LOL

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Date: 19/05/2008 10:33:02
From: orchid40
ID: 14573
Subject: re: Clotheslines

REALLY Greenfingered or greenthumbed is out Thee! LOL

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That should read our Thee :)

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Date: 19/05/2008 12:21:38
From: The Estate
ID: 14581
Subject: re: Clotheslines

pepe said:


The Estate said:

Well my Hills turned into a Jacaranda tree LOLOLOL

geez- you ornamental gardeners are very skilled. LOL.

looks great with fluro G’s LOL

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Date: 19/05/2008 14:49:35
From: bubba louie
ID: 14588
Subject: re: Clotheslines

wormhunter said:


aquarium said:

Lucky1 said:

Also the sun is great for killing off bugs and germs the soap powder and water doesn’t poison or drown……

i beg to differ about the practicality of a hills hoist. it typically takes centre stage in a backyard. this position is much better for a vegie bed or even a tree or table & chairs. my laundry is on the side of the house, and hence i installed the bracket type clothesline, right next to the laundry, on the wall. some may hold their hills hoist in high sentimental esteem; i think it’s an eyesore.

Great topic
Good to see some mature debating going on.

But I stand with Aquarium on this one.

Once again good topic to stir the sleepy forum.

The Canadians probably use driers cos its so bloody cold and moist over there.
You may think that its environmentally unfriendly but when you compare housing with ours, theres are much better insulated than some of the knock up jobs that get built here in the rapidly sprawling outer suburbs.

Maybe so but the one we met was at a campsite on Great keppel Is. No shortage of sun and he wanted a drier so nobody could see his smalls. LOL

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Date: 19/05/2008 19:40:10
From: Yeehah
ID: 14612
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Happy Potter said:

“ He who is born with a silver spoon in his mouth is generally
considered a fortunate person, but his good fortune is small
compared to that of the happy mortal who enters this world
with a passion for flowers in his soul.”

I’m stuffed, then ;)

No silver spoon, and no passion for flowers.

But I still get all excited about little things – the only things growing in my now-mostly-shaded vegie patch are some continental parsley and salad burnet, and I marvel at the foliage every time I walk past.

Hmmmm.

Maybe it’s not necessarily a passion for flowers that’s the key – perhaps “the ability to see beauty”. Different people see beauty in different things. Maybe a sad soul is the one that sees beauty in nothing?

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Date: 19/05/2008 21:33:59
From: Dinetta
ID: 14627
Subject: re: Clotheslines

I must say I agree with whoever it was that voted for the longline clothes line, with props…but I must say hanging the sheets on the hills hoist sure beats hanging them along the fence…the extendaline is OK for the clothes (a few)…I hate those extendalines in the city that are so tucked away that the clothes take forever to dry…..news to me that hills hoists are an eyesore…also what’s wrong with undies on the clothesline…are these people trying to hide from, or deny the presence of, the facts of life?????

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Date: 20/05/2008 08:27:55
From: pepe
ID: 14632
Subject: re: Clotheslines

Maybe so but the one we met was at a campsite on Great keppel Is. No shortage of sun and he wanted a drier so nobody could see his smalls. LOL
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i spose you would have frozen smallgoods in a canadian winter.
there are some alternatives – like draping clothes over a hot water radiator, using the space behind the fridge coils to place a vertical rack of clothes or having the top half of the hot water tank enclosure as a drying shelf.

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Date: 20/05/2008 08:37:09
From: pepe
ID: 14634
Subject: re: Clotheslines

But I still get all excited about little things – the only things growing in my now-mostly-shaded vegie patch are some continental parsley and salad burnet, and I marvel at the foliage every time I walk past.
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salad burnet?
can you give us a rundown – growing conditions, and culinary uses please?

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