Date: 7/12/2012 10:57:30
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 237567
Subject: Study: Large, old trees in decline

(Phys.org)—The largest living organisms on the planet, the big, old trees that harbour and sustain countless birds and other wildlife, are dying. A report by three of the world’s leading ecologists in today’s issue of the journal Science warns of an alarming increase in deathrates among trees 100-300 years old in many of the world’s forests, woodlands, savannahs, farming areas and even in cities.

“It’s a worldwide problem and appears to be happening in most types of forest,” says lead author Professor David Lindenmayer of the ARC Centre of Excellence for Environmental Decisions (CEED) and Australian National University. “Large old trees are critical in many natural and human-dominated environments. Studies of ecosystems around the world suggest populations of these trees are declining rapidly,” he and colleagues Professor Bill Laurance of James Cook University, Australia, and Professor Jerry Franklin of Washington University, USA, say in their Science report. “Research is urgently needed to identify the causes of rapid losses of large old trees and strategies for improved management. Without… policy changes, large old trees will diminish or disappear in many ecosystems, leading to losses of their associated biota and ecosystem functions.”

Prof. Lindenmayer says they were first tipped off to the loss of big old trees while examining Swedish forestry records going back to the 1860s. Then a 30-year study of Mountain Ash (Eucalyptus regnans) forest in Australia confirmed not only that big old trees were dying en masse in forest fires, but also perishing at ten times the normal rate in non-fire years—apparently due to drought, high temperatures, logging and other causes. Looking round the world, the scientists found similar trends at all latitudes, in California’s Yosemite National Park, on the African savannahs, in the rainforests of Brazil, the temperate forests of Europe and the boreal forests of the far north. Losses of large trees were also pronounced in agricultural landscapes and even cities, where people make efforts to preserve them. A

“It is a very, very disturbing trend. We are talking about the loss of the biggest living organisms on the planet, of the largest flowering plants on the planet, of organisms that play a key role in regulating and enriching our world,” says Professor Bill Laurance of James Cook University.

Read more at: http://phys.org/news/2012-12-large-trees-decline.html#jCp

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Date: 7/12/2012 14:06:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 237623
Subject: re: Study: Large, old trees in decline

It has been increasing in the past 30 years.

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Date: 7/12/2012 18:48:51
From: Ian
ID: 237788
Subject: re: Study: Large, old trees in decline

Yeah. It’s the same old.. accelerating.

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Date: 7/12/2012 18:54:33
From: Ian
ID: 237793
Subject: re: Study: Large, old trees in decline

The UN Secretary General, Ban Ki-Moon, said yesterday, “We collectively are the problem.”

“We are in a race against time to stay below the agreed threshold of 2 degrees centigrade above pre-industrial levels that will avoid the worst impacts of climate change,” he said.

…every delay means greater future effort or greater future harm.’

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Well known greenie, Bazza O’Farrell, interviewed on ABC radio this morning about electricity prices, when referred to the above statement said flatly that coal was the most efficient energy source…

NSW premier Barry O’Farrell, said the best way to reduce power bills was to cut the carbon tax and green energy schemes.”

hmmm

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Date: 7/12/2012 19:00:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 237797
Subject: re: Study: Large, old trees in decline

Ian said:


The UN Secretary General, Ban Ki-Moon, said yesterday, “We collectively are the problem.”

“We are in a race against time to stay below the agreed threshold of 2 degrees centigrade above pre-industrial levels that will avoid the worst impacts of climate change,” he said.

…every delay means greater future effort or greater future harm.’

<br.<br/>

Well known greenie, Bazza O’Farrell, interviewed on ABC radio this morning about electricity prices, when referred to the above statement said flatly that coal was the most efficient energy source…

NSW premier Barry O’Farrell, said the best way to reduce power bills was to cut the carbon tax and green energy schemes.”

hmmm

OK

politics seems to have come down to the fine line

either you give a shit or you don’t

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Date: 9/12/2012 22:51:29
From: morrie
ID: 238955
Subject: re: Study: Large, old trees in decline

>Then a 30-year study of Mountain Ash (Eucalyptus regnans) forest in Australia confirmed not only that big old trees were dying en masse in forest fires, but also perishing at ten times the normal rate in non-fire years—apparently due to drought, high temperatures, logging and other causes.

I wonder how they established the ‘normal rate’ for trees that live for 300 years or more?

Interesting to see the rush to chalk this up to global warming, when that is not what is suggested in the report.

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Date: 9/12/2012 23:18:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 238970
Subject: re: Study: Large, old trees in decline

morrie said:


>Then a 30-year study of Mountain Ash (Eucalyptus regnans) forest in Australia confirmed not only that big old trees were dying en masse in forest fires, but also perishing at ten times the normal rate in non-fire years—apparently due to drought, high temperatures, logging and other causes.

I wonder how they established the ‘normal rate’ for trees that live for 300 years or more?

Interesting to see the rush to chalk this up to global warming, when that is not what is suggested in the report.

Trees come up in their millions when rains come. Their half life is at first dry period and every dry period following.

Only those that have survived 300 years of dry periods live that long or longer.

However by this time it is usually fungi rather than dry that is their death knell.

When trees that are 300 or more die en masse it is a problem with water at a much deeper depth.

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