Just suppose that Anthropogenic Climate Change(AGW) didn’t exist, I know I know, it’s a terribly political incorrect thing to do and it might offend some AiGW(Answers in Global Warming) fundamentalists but we’re pretending here, come take my hand and I’ll take you to a magical land…..

So the question is if there was no climate change how would the scientists explain the typhoon in the Philippines, the Cyclone in Samoa and the high tides on the Gold Coast, how would they explain what’s causing those events, particularly to our young kiddies.

Peak Warming Man said:

Just suppose that Anthropogenic Climate Change(AGW) didn’t exist, I know I know, it’s a terribly political incorrect thing to do and it might offend some AiGW(Answers in Global Warming) fundamentalists but we’re pretending here, come take my hand and I’ll take you to a magical land…..

So the question is if there was no climate change how would the scientists explain the typhoon in the Philippines, the Cyclone in Samoa and the high tides on the Gold Coast, how would they explain what’s causing those events, particularly to our young kiddies.

So, do you mean no AGW or no climate change at all?

>Just suppose that Anthropogenic Climate Change(AGW) didn’t exist

To be fair, you’d also have to pretend that its effects didn’t exist.

Millenium effects. Much the same as the Federation effects of 100 years ago.

Bubblecar said:

>Just suppose that Anthropogenic Climate Change(AGW) didn’t exist

To be fair, you’d also have to pretend that its effects didn’t exist.

Which effects are those? The rising sea levels forcing the evacuation of all the pacific islands?

TOP PRIORITY FOR IMMEDIATE BROADCAST

SEVERE WEATHER WARNING
for ABNORMALLY HIGH TIDES
For people in parts of the
Wide Bay and Burnett and
Southeast Coast Forecast Districts.

Issued at 11:01 am Friday, 14 December 2012.

Synoptic Situation:
A trough is forecast to deepen over the southern Coral Sea in the next few days while remaining offshore.

Water levels on the Saturday morning high tide are likely to exceed the highest tide of the year in exposed coastal areas between Sandy Cape and Point Danger. Powerful surf and high tides may lead to strong currents, beach erosion and local inundation of low lying coastal areas.

The highest water levels are expected on the late morning high tide during Saturday.

Locations which may be affected include the Gold Coast, Sunshine Coast, and eastern coasts of the Moreton Bay Islands and Fraser Island.
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When did we start getting Top Priority Severe Weather Warnings for king tides?

Peak Warming Man said:

When did we start getting Top Priority Severe Weather Warnings for king tides?

When people started building their canals and mansions right on the coast.

>>When people started building their canals and mansions right on the coast.

No it’s only a recent thing, I think it is being driven by AiGW fundamental alarmists who have inveigled their way into the BOM.
I wouldn’t be surprised if they are tampering with the temperature records and the tea lady as well.

King Tide Definition

King tides are simply the very highest tides. Conversely, the low tides that occur at this time are the very lowest tides. They are naturally occurring, predictable events. Tides are actually the movement of water across the Earth’s surface caused by the combined effects of the gravitational forces exerted by the moon and the sun and the rotation of the earth which manifest in the local rise and fall of sea levels. Tides are driven by the relative positions of the earth, moon, and sun, the elliptical orbits of the celestial bodies, land formations, and relative location on the earth. In the lunar month, the highest tides occur roughly every 14 days, at the new and full moons, when the gravitational pull of the moon and the sun are in alignment. These highest tides in the lunar cycle are called spring tides.

The proximity of the moon in relation to the earth and the earth in relation to the sun also has an effect on tidal ranges. The moon moves around the earth in an elliptical orbit that takes about 29 days to complete. The gravitational force is greatest when the moon is closest to the earth (perigee) and least when it is farthest from the earth (apogee – about two weeks after perigee). The moon has a larger effect on the tides than the sun but the sun’s position also has an influence on the tides. The earth moves around the sun in an elliptical orbit that takes a little over 365 days to complete. Its gravitational force is greatest when the earth is closest to the sun (perihelion – early January) and least when the sun is farthest from earth (aphelion – early July).

The king tides occur when the earth, moon and sun are aligned at perigee and perihelion, resulting in the largest tidal range seen over the course of a year. Alignments that are ‘near enough’ occur during approximately three months each winter and again for three months in the summer. During these months, the high tides are higher than the average highest tides for three or four days. The predicted heights of a king tide can be further augmented by local weather patterns and ocean conditions. Winter king tides may be amplified by winter weather making these events more dramatic. In the northern hemisphere, the term king tide is used to describe each of these winter high tide events. On Australia’s East Coast, the highest of each of these periods (i.e., one in winter and one in summer, totaling two per year) are known as the king tides. In this region of the world, the winter king tide usually occurs at night and therefore goes unnoticed. Consequently the summer king tide usually catches the most attention.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/King_tide

plus the low pressure trough.

I blame Tony Abbott.

party_pants said:

I blame Tony Abbott.

I blame his whiny bitch, um, someone Pyne…

christopher. i don’t think i’ve ever heard him say something nice.

Boris said:

christopher. i don’t think i’ve ever heard him say something nice.

I’ve heard him called Abbott’s trained attack poodle.

Also heard him called “Prissy”.

Boris said:

christopher. i don’t think i’ve ever heard him say something nice.

I think that results in a division by zero error in his code.

party_pants said:

Boris said:

christopher. i don’t think i’ve ever heard him say something nice.

I’ve heard him called Abbott’s trained attack poodle.

Also heard him called “Prissy”.

I can see Abbott having a poodle. The pretend mans man companion animal.

might head down to the foreshore on sundays high tide and see if it’s worth photographing

party_pants said:

I blame Tony Abbott.

He has much to answer for. Get rid of him and most of the world’s problems will disappear.

morrie said:

party_pants said:

I blame Tony Abbott.

He has much to answer for. Get rid of him and most of the world’s problems will disappear.

the funny thing is, a lot of lefties believe that

Dropbear said:

the funny thing is, a lot of lefties believe that

Malcolm Turnbull supporters?

morrie said:

party_pants said:

I blame Tony Abbott.

He has much to answer for. Get rid of him and most of the world’s problems will disappear.

If they could just get rid of both of them and put one of the grown-ups in charge.

party_pants said:

morrie said:

party_pants said:

I blame Tony Abbott.

He has much to answer for. Get rid of him and most of the world’s problems will disappear.

If they could just get rid of both of them and put one of the grown-ups in charge.

Perhaps someone on the forum might be available?

morrie said:

Perhaps someone on the forum might be available?

I nominate Boris.

party_pants said:

morrie said:

Perhaps someone on the forum might be available?

I nominate Boris.

But…but……., doesn’t Wookie have all the answers?

jjjust moi said:

party_pants said:

morrie said:

Perhaps someone on the forum might be available?

I nominate Boris.

But…but……., doesn’t Wookie have all the answers?

Yeah, but he’s a bit hazy on the questions.

jjjust moi said:

party_pants said:

morrie said:

Perhaps someone on the forum might be available?

I nominate Boris.

But…but……., doesn’t Wookie have all the answers?

Sort of, but he usually applies them to the wrong questions.

Oh, p_p. We’re still carrying on like twins separated at birth.

party_pants said:

morrie said:

party_pants said:

I blame Tony Abbott.

He has much to answer for. Get rid of him and most of the world’s problems will disappear.

If they could just get rid of both of them and put one of the grown-ups in charge.

Heheh I like this

damn – beaten to the post by Geoff D.

:)

i accept. now…

Boris said:

i accept. now…

Wonderful. My need are few. A job in the public service, with an annual stipend at retirement. An immediate pay rise for all public servants, and could you possibly pick up a scuba tank for me some time next week from a local?

you can be in charge of transport and recreation. you can pick up your own scuba gear.

stephen hawking on now. inventions and stuff.

Boris said:

you can be in charge of transport and recreation. you can pick up your own scuba gear.

Cool. I am assuming a decent fuel rebate will apply. And I am pleased to have your in-principle support for my bottom of the harbour scheme.

morrie said:

Boris said:

you can be in charge of transport and recreation. you can pick up your own scuba gear.

Cool. I am assuming a decent fuel rebate will apply. And I am pleased to have your in-principle support for my bottom of the harbour scheme.

the sun was heating up

Peak Warming Man said:

Just suppose that Anthropogenic Climate Change(AGW) didn’t exist, I know I know, it’s a terribly political incorrect thing to do and it might offend some AiGW(Answers in Global Warming) fundamentalists but we’re pretending here, come take my hand and I’ll take you to a magical land…..

So the question is if there was no climate change how would the scientists explain the typhoon in the Philippines, the Cyclone in Samoa and the high tides on the Gold Coast, how would they explain what’s causing those events, particularly to our young kiddies.

the sun was heating up