Date: 28/12/2012 20:08:44
From: Dinetta
ID: 245789
Subject: Cherry Guava
Also known as Strawberry Guava. I have one and it’s got fruit. I must say even without the fruit the tree provides a home for the singing honey-eater and the flowers smell divine.
I have found some information here
Does anybody else know any other information that would be useful?
My mother used to make the best guava jelly with this…OK I’m biased but it was very nice.
Date: 28/12/2012 22:56:24
From: painmaster
ID: 245853
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
I grew two small stands of Cherry/Strawberry guava in Adelaide.
Date: 29/12/2012 00:05:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 245862
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
painmaster said:
I grew two small stands of Cherry/Strawberry guava in Adelaide.
Demonised by the dept of Ag because it is a haven for fruit fly.
Date: 29/12/2012 08:10:29
From: Dinetta
ID: 245939
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
roughbarked said:
painmaster said:
I grew two small stands of Cherry/Strawberry guava in Adelaide.
Demonised by the dept of Ag because it is a haven for fruit fly.
OH dear…
Date: 29/12/2012 08:16:13
From: Dinetta
ID: 245941
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
roughbarked said:
painmaster said:
I grew two small stands of Cherry/Strawberry guava in Adelaide.
Demonised by the dept of Ag because it is a haven for fruit fly.
So as soon as the fruit ripens, I should be up there picking it? I do recall when it was an itty bitty tree, Mum and Dad tried all sorts of things for the fruit fly…
Date: 29/12/2012 08:26:52
From: Dinetta
ID: 245944
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
roughbarked said:
painmaster said:
I grew two small stands of Cherry/Strawberry guava in Adelaide.
Demonised by the dept of Ag because it is a haven for fruit fly.
So as soon as the fruit ripens, I should be up there picking it? I do recall when it was an itty bitty tree, Mum and Dad tried all sorts of things for the fruit fly…
I suppose I could trim the tree back but I like looking out my “office” window and seeing the singing honey eater flit around…
Date: 29/12/2012 08:38:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 245949
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
roughbarked said:
painmaster said:
I grew two small stands of Cherry/Strawberry guava in Adelaide.
Demonised by the dept of Ag because it is a haven for fruit fly.
So as soon as the fruit ripens, I should be up there picking it? I do recall when it was an itty bitty tree, Mum and Dad tried all sorts of things for the fruit fly…
Truthfully, none of us will be able to grow fruit again without a constant chemical control program or indeed a cut all fruit off immediately after flowering regime.
Fruit fly are no longer restricted to Queensland nor are the fruit fly free zones effective at all.
The major cities are breeding places as there are no controls in place and the vehicular transport ensures their spread. The lack of border inspections and education plus the increase in just off the boat travellers.. has changed the name of Queensland fruit fly to Australian fruit fly.
Date: 29/12/2012 08:54:01
From: Dinetta
ID: 245953
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
When I was a kidleteen, 1970, border control was very strict. They looked in your boot and under the car seats and all. I’m thinking it mostly worked. 7 years ago there was no checking at the border, there wasn’t even a check point…P and I were amazed and dismayed.
Date: 29/12/2012 09:04:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 245954
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
When I was a kidleteen, 1970, border control was very strict. They looked in your boot and under the car seats and all. I’m thinking it mostly worked. 7 years ago there was no checking at the border, there wasn’t even a check point…P and I were amazed and dismayed.
Yep that’s the problem.. no money for quarantine. Similar things are happening to the imported stuff.
New unwanted living things are being imported into Australia with scant regard for the isolation quarantine of the past.
Date: 29/12/2012 09:36:12
From: bluegreen
ID: 245959
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
When I was a kidleteen, 1970, border control was very strict. They looked in your boot and under the car seats and all. I’m thinking it mostly worked. 7 years ago there was no checking at the border, there wasn’t even a check point…P and I were amazed and dismayed.
I can remember as a child us stopping just before the checkpoint to eat an apple or two before passing through, so it was not all thrown into the bin. But you are right, there is no one to check any more, just a sign which of course no one is going to pay any attention to.
Date: 29/12/2012 09:46:33
From: roughbarked
ID: 245963
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
bluegreen said:
Dinetta said:
When I was a kidleteen, 1970, border control was very strict. They looked in your boot and under the car seats and all. I’m thinking it mostly worked. 7 years ago there was no checking at the border, there wasn’t even a check point…P and I were amazed and dismayed.
I can remember as a child us stopping just before the checkpoint to eat an apple or two before passing through, so it was not all thrown into the bin. But you are right, there is no one to check any more, just a sign which of course no one is going to pay any attention to.
As a child growing up in a fruit fly exclusion zone. We had to drive outside the zone to get a banana and we had to eat it there disposing of the peels in the correct way and we were not allowed to bring back the skins or the boxes/containers the fruit came in.
There are still some random checks at the borders of fruit fly exclusion zones where people found with fruit may be fined but in general apart from the checking station at Yamba SA which has recently been struggling for funding to stay open 24 hour or the one in WA on the other side of the Nullabor.. most border inspection stations are now defunct.
Date: 29/12/2012 09:59:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 245972
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Observation and cleanliness is your only friend in the case of fruit fly.
I’ll be posting more under this set heading.. as I locate older photos and create new ones.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157632346560186/
Date: 29/12/2012 10:14:17
From: pomolo
ID: 245988
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
Also known as Strawberry Guava. I have one and it’s got fruit. I must say even without the fruit the tree provides a home for the singing honey-eater and the flowers smell divine.
I have found some information here
Does anybody else know any other information that would be useful?
My mother used to make the best guava jelly with this…OK I’m biased but it was very nice.
We just eat them fresh here when we rescue some before the fruit fly gets them. A lovely fruit to eat. Bats love them too.
Date: 29/12/2012 10:16:24
From: pomolo
ID: 245990
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
painmaster said:
I grew two small stands of Cherry/Strawberry guava in Adelaide.
I’ve got a hedge of about 12 trees of them. They are enclined to self seed though.
Date: 29/12/2012 10:17:22
From: pomolo
ID: 245992
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
roughbarked said:
painmaster said:
I grew two small stands of Cherry/Strawberry guava in Adelaide.
Demonised by the dept of Ag because it is a haven for fruit fly.
Is that right? Don’t tell me I have to cut down my hedge!
Date: 29/12/2012 10:19:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 245995
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
pomolo said:
roughbarked said:
painmaster said:
I grew two small stands of Cherry/Strawberry guava in Adelaide.
Demonised by the dept of Ag because it is a haven for fruit fly.
Is that right? Don’t tell me I have to cut down my hedge!
No but you do need to be vigilant and remove all fruit the instant you see evidence of fruit fly.
You see many fruit trees such as the fejoia/guava are otherwise left untended.
Date: 29/12/2012 10:20:29
From: pomolo
ID: 245997
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
roughbarked said:
bluegreen said:
Dinetta said:
When I was a kidleteen, 1970, border control was very strict. They looked in your boot and under the car seats and all. I’m thinking it mostly worked. 7 years ago there was no checking at the border, there wasn’t even a check point…P and I were amazed and dismayed.
I can remember as a child us stopping just before the checkpoint to eat an apple or two before passing through, so it was not all thrown into the bin. But you are right, there is no one to check any more, just a sign which of course no one is going to pay any attention to.
As a child growing up in a fruit fly exclusion zone. We had to drive outside the zone to get a banana and we had to eat it there disposing of the peels in the correct way and we were not allowed to bring back the skins or the boxes/containers the fruit came in.
There are still some random checks at the borders of fruit fly exclusion zones where people found with fruit may be fined but in general apart from the checking station at Yamba SA which has recently been struggling for funding to stay open 24 hour or the one in WA on the other side of the Nullabor.. most border inspection stations are now defunct.
The only thing I see now is a road side sign warning about taking banana plants further North. Bunchy top is the disease.
Date: 29/12/2012 10:21:43
From: pomolo
ID: 245998
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
roughbarked said:
pomolo said:
roughbarked said:
Demonised by the dept of Ag because it is a haven for fruit fly.
Is that right? Don’t tell me I have to cut down my hedge!
No but you do need to be vigilant and remove all fruit the instant you see evidence of fruit fly.
You see many fruit trees such as the fejoia/guava are otherwise left untended.
If I do that the flying fox won’t get any. Do I care? lol.
Date: 29/12/2012 10:22:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 245999
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
If people processed all their fruit then fruit fly would have far less chance.
Date: 29/12/2012 10:23:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 246001
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
pomolo said:
roughbarked said:
pomolo said:
Is that right? Don’t tell me I have to cut down my hedge!
No but you do need to be vigilant and remove all fruit the instant you see evidence of fruit fly.
You see many fruit trees such as the fejoia/guava are otherwise left untended.
If I do that the flying fox won’t get any. Do I care? lol.
Don’t tell jenna jones that
Date: 29/12/2012 10:23:20
From: pomolo
ID: 246002
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
roughbarked said:
If people processed all their fruit then fruit fly would have far less chance.
It’s never going to happen. You know that don’t you?
Date: 29/12/2012 10:25:38
From: Dinetta
ID: 246005
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Do I have to pick the fruit ripe, or can I pick it semi-ripe and it will continue to ripen in the fridge / house?
Date: 29/12/2012 10:26:56
From: pomolo
ID: 246006
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
Do I have to pick the fruit ripe, or can I pick it semi-ripe and it will continue to ripen in the fridge / house?
Semi ripe will ripen after picking. A short time between ripening and over ripe too.
Date: 29/12/2012 12:04:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 246023
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
pomolo said:
Dinetta said:
Do I have to pick the fruit ripe, or can I pick it semi-ripe and it will continue to ripen in the fridge / house?
Semi ripe will ripen after picking. A short time between ripening and over ripe too.
yes. very short keeping time.
Date: 19/01/2013 07:58:27
From: Dinetta
ID: 253612
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
I’ll be picking a few this morning, just noticed them yesterday. Will they keep OK in the vegetable crisper, I’d like to make a jelly from them?
Those fruits on this tree that are past it or look suspicious, I’ve been feeding to the chookens.
Date: 19/01/2013 09:43:58
From: bluegreen
ID: 253641
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
I’ll be picking a few this morning, just noticed them yesterday. Will they keep OK in the vegetable crisper, I’d like to make a jelly from them?
Those fruits on this tree that are past it or look suspicious, I’ve been feeding to the chookens.
I’d pop them straight in the freezer until you have enough.
Date: 19/01/2013 11:36:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 253691
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
bluegreen said:
Dinetta said:
I’ll be picking a few this morning, just noticed them yesterday. Will they keep OK in the vegetable crisper, I’d like to make a jelly from them?
Those fruits on this tree that are past it or look suspicious, I’ve been feeding to the chookens.
I’d pop them straight in the freezer until you have enough.
The freezer you reckon BlueGreen?
Got nothing to lose…Thanks…
Date: 19/01/2013 11:44:45
From: bluegreen
ID: 253694
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
bluegreen said:
Dinetta said:
I’ll be picking a few this morning, just noticed them yesterday. Will they keep OK in the vegetable crisper, I’d like to make a jelly from them?
Those fruits on this tree that are past it or look suspicious, I’ve been feeding to the chookens.
I’d pop them straight in the freezer until you have enough.
The freezer you reckon BlueGreen?
Got nothing to lose…Thanks…
they will last longer in peak condition in the freezer where in the fridge they will deteriorate. Not suitable if you wanted them as “fresh” fruit but fine if you are cooking them.
Date: 19/01/2013 12:46:14
From: Dinetta
ID: 253736
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
bluegreen said:
they will last longer in peak condition in the freezer where in the fridge they will deteriorate. Not suitable if you wanted them as “fresh” fruit but fine if you are cooking them.
No, not required as fresh fruit, yes am cooking them.
Date: 19/01/2013 16:54:53
From: Dinetta
ID: 253814
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
I have a cup full in the freezer now, will have to wash the dust off before they defrost, there’s more coming. I was splitting them and throwing onto the ground if they had “bite” marks, but there’s nothing wrong with most of them, so I think I’ll cut that out. The “bite” marks are not from fruit fly, there’s a couple of gaudy bugs and other strange critters obviously stinging the fruit for a feed.
Now I have the theory that the chookens may have et the fruit fly larvae as they hatched, as the chookens have been under that tree almost ever since they arrived in early July. Does this sound possible?
Date: 19/01/2013 17:07:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 253817
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
I have a cup full in the freezer now, will have to wash the dust off before they defrost, there’s more coming. I was splitting them and throwing onto the ground if they had “bite” marks, but there’s nothing wrong with most of them, so I think I’ll cut that out. The “bite” marks are not from fruit fly, there’s a couple of gaudy bugs and other strange critters obviously stinging the fruit for a feed.
Now I have the theory that the chookens may have et the fruit fly larvae as they hatched, as the chookens have been under that tree almost ever since they arrived in early July. Does this sound possible?
If fruit fly have laid eggs then throwing the fruit on the ground is unwise. This is exactly what benefits fruit fly.
Date: 19/01/2013 19:03:33
From: Dinetta
ID: 253851
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
roughbarked said:
If fruit fly have laid eggs then throwing the fruit on the ground is unwise. This is exactly what benefits fruit fly.
That’s my point. There is no evidence of fruit fly that I can see. I’m wondering if the past months of the chookens being daily under the tree, has caused emergent fruit fly (if any) to be promptly eaten. Anyway the chookens are eating the fruit, but in the light of what you’ve said, I’ll check later and what they don’t eat I will put in their hot breakfast.
Date: 19/01/2013 19:32:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 253855
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
roughbarked said:
If fruit fly have laid eggs then throwing the fruit on the ground is unwise. This is exactly what benefits fruit fly.
That’s my point. There is no evidence of fruit fly that I can see. I’m wondering if the past months of the chookens being daily under the tree, has caused emergent fruit fly (if any) to be promptly eaten. Anyway the chookens are eating the fruit, but in the light of what you’ve said, I’ll check later and what they don’t eat I will put in their hot breakfast.
Chookens are gooduns
Date: 19/01/2013 19:43:06
From: bluegreen
ID: 253857
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
Dinetta said:
roughbarked said:
If fruit fly have laid eggs then throwing the fruit on the ground is unwise. This is exactly what benefits fruit fly.
That’s my point. There is no evidence of fruit fly that I can see. I’m wondering if the past months of the chookens being daily under the tree, has caused emergent fruit fly (if any) to be promptly eaten. Anyway the chookens are eating the fruit, but in the light of what you’ve said, I’ll check later and what they don’t eat I will put in their hot breakfast.
I have heard that chooks will eat fruit fly larvae so it is likely they have helped reduce the population.
Date: 19/01/2013 23:32:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 253918
Subject: re: Cherry Guava
bluegreen said:
Dinetta said:
roughbarked said:
If fruit fly have laid eggs then throwing the fruit on the ground is unwise. This is exactly what benefits fruit fly.
That’s my point. There is no evidence of fruit fly that I can see. I’m wondering if the past months of the chookens being daily under the tree, has caused emergent fruit fly (if any) to be promptly eaten. Anyway the chookens are eating the fruit, but in the light of what you’ve said, I’ll check later and what they don’t eat I will put in their hot breakfast.
I have heard that chooks will eat fruit fly larvae so it is likely they have helped reduce the population.
Yes reduce but not necessarily annihilate.