Seems the DNA evidence backs up everything else:

A skeleton found in a Leicestershire car park has today been confirmed as that of King Richard III.

Leicester University said they believe the bones are the mortal remains of the most reviled monarch in English history, after conducting months of scientific and historic research, which included analysing a fragment of DNA from one of Richard’s modern day ancestors.

Scientists, archaeologists and historians involved in the project had been sworn to secrecy until the final results of radiocarbon dating, DNA tests and bone analysis were officially released, along with a three-dimensional reconstruction of his head and face.

Today’s announcement supports the theory that the battle-scarred body of the last Plantagenet king was interred under the floor of a medieval church, on a site where Leicester’s social services department later stood.

The skeleton, excavated last September, has pronounced curvature of the spine caused by severe scoliosis which would have made the King’s right shoulder appear visibly higher than the left – supporting the Shakespearean description of Richard as “rudely stamp’d… deformed, unfinish’d”.

Richard’s skeleton also suffered a traumatic blow to the head, which cleaved the back of his cranium, and a barbed arrowhead was found embedded between the vertebrae.

Both must have occurred at or near the moment of his death at the Battle of Bosworth on August 22, 1485.

Full Report

Ah. That’s where you were.

Sorta surprising that a DNA comparison to a 17-generations removed nephew can be convincing.

Angus Prune said:

Sorta surprising that a DNA comparison to a 17-generations removed nephew can be convincing.

blue blood?

Angus Prune said:

Sorta surprising that a DNA comparison to a 17-generations removed nephew can be convincing.

I was just thinking that – what they compared the DNA to.

No doubt there will be a 3-part BBC doco series about it. I’ll wait for that :)

Angus Prune said:

Sorta surprising that a DNA comparison to a 17-generations removed nephew can be convincing.

Mitchondrial DNA is passed down the maternal line.

Seems like it is possible to immediately classify most Europeans into one of seven groups, for a start. Richard’s line might have been an even smaller group.

“Among native Europeans, almost everybody can trace their maternal genealogy, using mDNA, to one of only seven women, their ancient clan mother. To give them an identity I have given these women names: Ursula, Xenia, Helena, Velda, Tara, Katrine and Jasmine. The women lived between 10 000 and 45 000 years ago, six of the seven were hunter-gatherers, the seventh, Jasmine, was an early farmer. These seven women are also related to each other, and these connections can also be followed by mDNA. They join up with the clan mothers from other parts of the world and ultimately coalesce in one woman – mitochondrial Eve, who lived in Africa about 150 000 years ago. Wherever we live on the planet, we are all her descendants.”

Bryan Sykes is Professor of Human Genetics at the Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine, University of Oxford.

http://genome.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTD020876.html

morrie said:

Angus Prune said:

Sorta surprising that a DNA comparison to a 17-generations removed nephew can be convincing.

Mitchondrial DNA is passed down the maternal line.

Seems like it is possible to immediately classify most Europeans into one of seven groups, for a start. Richard’s line might have been an even smaller group.

“Among native Europeans, almost everybody can trace their maternal genealogy, using mDNA, to one of only seven women, their ancient clan mother. To give them an identity I have given these women names: Ursula, Xenia, Helena, Velda, Tara, Katrine and Jasmine. The women lived between 10 000 and 45 000 years ago, six of the seven were hunter-gatherers, the seventh, Jasmine, was an early farmer. These seven women are also related to each other, and these connections can also be followed by mDNA. They join up with the clan mothers from other parts of the world and ultimately coalesce in one woman – mitochondrial Eve, who lived in Africa about 150 000 years ago. Wherever we live on the planet, we are all her descendants.”

Bryan Sykes is Professor of Human Genetics at the Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine, University of Oxford.

http://genome.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTD020876.html

>>> Wherever we live on the planet, we are all her descendants.”

I am not saying that this is bullsh*t but I am thinking it.

bob(from black rock) said:

morrie said:

Angus Prune said:

Sorta surprising that a DNA comparison to a 17-generations removed nephew can be convincing.

Mitchondrial DNA is passed down the maternal line.

Seems like it is possible to immediately classify most Europeans into one of seven groups, for a start. Richard’s line might have been an even smaller group.

“Among native Europeans, almost everybody can trace their maternal genealogy, using mDNA, to one of only seven women, their ancient clan mother. To give them an identity I have given these women names: Ursula, Xenia, Helena, Velda, Tara, Katrine and Jasmine. The women lived between 10 000 and 45 000 years ago, six of the seven were hunter-gatherers, the seventh, Jasmine, was an early farmer. These seven women are also related to each other, and these connections can also be followed by mDNA. They join up with the clan mothers from other parts of the world and ultimately coalesce in one woman – mitochondrial Eve, who lived in Africa about 150 000 years ago. Wherever we live on the planet, we are all her descendants.”

Bryan Sykes is Professor of Human Genetics at the Weatherall Institute of Molecular Medicine, University of Oxford.

http://genome.wellcome.ac.uk/doc_WTD020876.html

>>> Wherever we live on the planet, we are all her descendants.”

I am not saying that this is bullsh*t but I am thinking it.

Technically, Sykes’ team identified seven maternal haplotypes in mt sequences to form seven maternal haplogroups among European lineages, but he spruced it up with artistic license to generate a story of seven ancestral women for his book “Seven Daughters of Eve”.

Angus Prune said:

Sorta surprising that a DNA comparison to a 17-generations removed nephew can be convincing.

mt DNA doesn’t recombine and is maternally transferred – so it is a case of them finding (and they have) mutations in maternal lineage which can generate characteristic and unique sequences which are familial markers. They state or believe that they have a unique sequence found in two descendants, but this could be confounded if these two descendants share another maternal ancestor. They will also test paternal sequences (which are carried on the non-recombining Y chromosomes).

More details can be found on the original press release..

http://www.eurekalert.org/pub_releases/2013-02/uol-uol020413.php

neomyrtus_ said:

…sequence found in two descendants, which has also been found the skeletal remains of the putative king..

edited

all in all – the accumulated corroborative and molecular evidence makes for a convincing case of them having found Dick III, but more convincing data could arise from the vaults of the monarchy – however the Windsors / Saxe-Coburg and Gothas have not been willing not release any other royal remains for DNA analysis (namely Edward IV or the putative princes).

British monarchs are no good for road base..

No good for anything really.

bob(from black rock) said:

I am not saying that this is bullsh*t but I am thinking it.

It ain’t necessarily so
It ain’t necessarily so
Though you may have saw ‘em
Here on the Forum
They ain’t necessarily so…

Angus Prune said:

Sorta surprising that a DNA comparison to a 17-generations removed nephew can be convincing.

I questioned that but guessed it was from the female line. Tops bit of detective work. I recall reading about Henry VIII there was a lot of security around a royal birth to prevent a cuckoo being inserted. Of course no real way of telling who the father was but they were damn sure who the mother was.

And that is the same reason I think that jews trace their ancestry through the female line.

The face of King Richard III is set to be unveiled to the world after a skeleton found under a council car park was confirmed as that of the last Plantagenet king.

A computer image showing what the monarch might have looked like is to be released by the Richard III Society on Tuesday morning after experts said the skeleton unearthed in Leicester was proven “beyond reasonable doubt” to be that of the king who died in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485.

The image is based on a CT scan taken by experts at the University of Leicester, who discovered the king’s skeleton during an archaeological dig last September with the help of the society.

Richard III’s skeleton was found in the remains of the choir of the Greyfriars church, which now lies under a social services car park in the city.

The facial reconstruction will be unveiled to the media at the Society of Antiquaries at Burlington House in Piccadilly, London, at 10am.

More: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/feb/05/face-richard-iii-revealed

They can have a pavilion at the site with a re-enactment on a screen.
And a kiosk where they can sell English teas and Wattneys Red Barrell and a souvineer shop where they can sell Books about Richard the III and cheap Richard the II mugs and tin ashtrays and Richard II T-Shirts.
It doesn’t really matter if it’s Richard the III.

Bubblecar said:

The face of King Richard III is set to be unveiled to the world after a skeleton found under a council car park was confirmed as that of the last Plantagenet king.

A computer image showing what the monarch might have looked like is to be released by the Richard III Society on Tuesday morning after experts said the skeleton unearthed in Leicester was proven “beyond reasonable doubt” to be that of the king who died in the Battle of Bosworth in 1485.

The image is based on a CT scan taken by experts at the University of Leicester, who discovered the king’s skeleton during an archaeological dig last September with the help of the society.

Richard III’s skeleton was found in the remains of the choir of the Greyfriars church, which now lies under a social services car park in the city.

The facial reconstruction will be unveiled to the media at the Society of Antiquaries at Burlington House in Piccadilly, London, at 10am.

More: http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2013/feb/05/face-richard-iii-revealed

That is pretty cool.

Can they compare it against portraits from the time?

There are a couple of portraits from his lifetime, which give a general likeness although they’re not great paintings. It’ll be interesting to compare.

Actually the earliest surviving one is from 1520 (he died in 1485) but it’s a copy of an earlier one presumably painted from life.

Bubblecar said:

Well it will be fascinating to see.

And here it is:

The face of Richard III: Reconstruction reveals what slain king looked like 500 years ago after his remains were found under a car park

>‘It doesn’t look like the face of a tyrant. I’m sorry but it doesn’t,’ she told the documentary on the search last night.<

Well I’m sorry too dear, but you’re talking codswallop. A facial reconstruction of this kind could just as easily have given him a cruel and devious expression, while still being technically accurate.

Fantastic teeth in a time before fluoride and floss.

19 shillings said:

Fantastic teeth in a time before fluoride and floss.

He was only 32 when he died.

Bubblecar said:

And here it is:

The face of Richard III: Reconstruction reveals what slain king looked like 500 years ago after his remains were found under a car park

Wow thanks for that Mr Car.

ms spock said:

Bubblecar said:

And here it is:

The face of Richard III: Reconstruction reveals what slain king looked like 500 years ago after his remains were found under a car park

Wow thanks for that Mr Car.

It’s does look a bit like the portraits.

Bubblecar said:

19 shillings said:

Fantastic teeth in a time before fluoride and floss.

He was only 32 when he died.

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and probably had a diet low in sugar..

19 shillings said:

Bubblecar said:

19 shillings said:

Fantastic teeth in a time before fluoride and floss.

He was only 32 when he died.

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and probably had a diet low in sugar..

I think back then royalty was mad for sugar as it was a status symbol.

Skunkworks said:

19 shillings said:

Bubblecar said:

He was only 32 when he died.

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and probably had a diet low in sugar..

I think back then royalty was mad for sugar as it was a status symbol.

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Well the dental care of the time must have been pretty good.

Yes, sugar in the form of sugar, honey, fruit etc was widely used in medieval cuisine, in many meat & vegetable dishes as well dessert items.

Very interesting link.

The teeth are not only in good condition, but well aligned too. I see so many people from the UK with really badly aligned teeth. Seems to almost be a characteristic. Perhaps orthodontists are not popular there?

As to the face being that of a tyrant, or not, who is to say? What features does the face of a tyrant have? The portrait is less flattering in facial expression than the reconstruction.

morrie said:

Very interesting link.

The teeth are not only in good condition, but well aligned too. I see so many people from the UK with really badly aligned teeth. Seems to almost be a characteristic. Perhaps orthodontists are not popular there?

As to the face being that of a tyrant, or not, who is to say? What features does the face of a tyrant have? The portrait is less flattering in facial expression than the reconstruction.

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Perhaps the breeding stock of the time was selected for their good teeth.

Facial expressions are entirely up to the artist doing the reconstruction. Usually a neutral sort of look is the goal, so that the artist doesn’t read too much into the individual’s character, given that the bones alone can rarely tell us anything at all about such matters.

Bubblecar said:

Facial expressions are entirely up to the artist doing the reconstruction. Usually a neutral sort of look is the goal, so that the artist doesn’t read too much into the individual’s character, given that the bones alone can rarely tell us anything at all about such matters.

How about if they are broken?

Was he a tyrant by the rules and mores of his time?

Skunkworks said:

Was he a tyrant by the rules and mores of his time?

Well, he almost certainly murdered his two juvenile nephews, and that alone was enough to raise the suspicion that he might not be a very nice man at all, even in those days :)

Bubblecar said:

Skunkworks said:

Was he a tyrant by the rules and mores of his time?

Well, he almost certainly murdered his two juvenile nephews, and that alone was enough to raise the suspicion that he might not be a very nice man at all, even in those days :)

You should read what the Ottoman sultans got up to with brothers and nephews.

How about if they are broken?

there was a show last night called cold case which shows facial reconstruction. they can put a skull back together if smashed with computers and even add missing pieces. the nose is one part that is hit and miss with guess work.

Boris said:

How about if they are broken?

there was a show last night called cold case which shows facial reconstruction. they can put a skull back together if smashed with computers and even add missing pieces. the nose is one part that is hit and miss with guess work.

Nose and other fleshy bits like lips, ears, eyelids and eye shape etc.

Boris said:

How about if they are broken?

there was a show last night called cold case which shows facial reconstruction. they can put a skull back together if smashed with computers and even add missing pieces. the nose is one part that is hit and miss with guess work.

Well if you hit the nose it would be broken, if you missed then the cheekbone may be.

Skunkworks said:

Was he a tyrant by the rules and mores of his time?

Yes. He was third in line to the throne, but as the only adult he was supposed to be regent for his two young nephew(s) who were the rightful heirs to the throne until one or the other were of age to take the crown in their own right. The two nephews disappeared and were never seen again. Richard of course was suspected of having them murdered.

the womans nose’s boney part was missing, she had tertiary syphilis, so the reconstruction was harder.

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

How about if they are broken?

there was a show last night called cold case which shows facial reconstruction. they can put a skull back together if smashed with computers and even add missing pieces. the nose is one part that is hit and miss with guess work.

Well if you hit the nose it would be broken, if you missed then the cheekbone may be.

Nose is cartialige and rots away. Missing bones can be deduced or reproduced from a mirror of the other side.

Skunkworks said:

roughbarked said:

Boris said:

How about if they are broken?

there was a show last night called cold case which shows facial reconstruction. they can put a skull back together if smashed with computers and even add missing pieces. the nose is one part that is hit and miss with guess work.

Well if you hit the nose it would be broken, if you missed then the cheekbone may be.

Nose is cartialige and rots away. Missing bones can be deduced or reproduced from a mirror of the other side.

Yeah, I know but you missed the point. In a reconstruction a bent nose would require a history of the person’s life or artistic license of the reconstructor?

party_pants said:

Skunkworks said:

Was he a tyrant by the rules and mores of his time?

Yes. He was third in line to the throne, but as the only adult he was supposed to be regent for his two young nephew(s) who were the rightful heirs to the throne until one or the other were of age to take the crown in their own right. The two nephews disappeared and were never seen again. Richard of course was suspected of having them murdered.

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So all this fanfare is about an utter, utter barstard

the womans nose’s….

redo apostrophes where necessary.

party_pants said:

Skunkworks said:

Was he a tyrant by the rules and mores of his time?

Yes. He was third in line to the throne, but as the only adult he was supposed to be regent for his two young nephew(s) who were the rightful heirs to the throne until one or the other were of age to take the crown in their own right. The two nephews disappeared and were never seen again. Richard of course was suspected of having them murdered.

So he was a go getter then who thought outside the box.

19 shillings said:

party_pants said:

Skunkworks said:

Was he a tyrant by the rules and mores of his time?

Yes. He was third in line to the throne, but as the only adult he was supposed to be regent for his two young nephew(s) who were the rightful heirs to the throne until one or the other were of age to take the crown in their own right. The two nephews disappeared and were never seen again. Richard of course was suspected of having them murdered.

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So all this fanfare is about an utter, utter barstard

The bluebloods were pretty much all like that

>So all this fanfare is about an utter, utter barstard

All medieval monarchs were utter bastards. And so were many of the later ones.

you don’t get an empire by being mr/ms/mrs nice.

19 shillings said:

party_pants said:

Skunkworks said:

Was he a tyrant by the rules and mores of his time?

Yes. He was third in line to the throne, but as the only adult he was supposed to be regent for his two young nephew(s) who were the rightful heirs to the throne until one or the other were of age to take the crown in their own right. The two nephews disappeared and were never seen again. Richard of course was suspected of having them murdered.

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So all this fanfare is about an utter, utter barstard

The boys may have been despotic brats themselves worse than Ivan the Terrible. He might have saved England by keeping the throne warm till Henry Tudor took over.

Boris said:

you don’t get an empire by being mr/ms/mrs nice.

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Ghandi.

19 shillings said:

Boris said:

you don’t get an empire by being mr/ms/mrs nice.

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Ghandi.

He didn’t an empire, he stuffed one up.

party_pants said:

Skunkworks said:

Was he a tyrant by the rules and mores of his time?

Yes. He was third in line to the throne, but as the only adult he was supposed to be regent for his two young nephew(s) who were the rightful heirs to the throne until one or the other were of age to take the crown in their own right. The two nephews disappeared and were never seen again. Richard of course was suspected of having them murdered.

clearly suicide

party_pants said:

19 shillings said:

Boris said:

you don’t get an empire by being mr/ms/mrs nice.

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Ghandi.

He didn’t an empire, he stuffed one up.

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Now tell me about the rise of the Indian empire in the 21’st century

19 shillings said:

Boris said:

you don’t get an empire by being mr/ms/mrs nice.

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Ghandi.

denied his wife medcine because it was all part of the western conspiracy yet when he was sick he readily took them. ghandi was a self serving little prick

he used to sleep with naked young girls to “test” himself

19 shillings said:

Now tell me about the rise of the Indian empire in the 21’st century

Gandhi ist tot

wookiemeister said:

he used to sleep with naked young girls to “test” himself

Seems reasonable to me. Might even try that myself.

wookiemeister said:

19 shillings said:

Boris said:

you don’t get an empire by being mr/ms/mrs nice.

—-

Ghandi.

denied his wife medcine because it was all part of the western conspiracy yet when he was sick he readily took them. ghandi was a self serving little prick

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Unlike yourself..

wookiemeister said:

he used to sleep with naked young girls to “test” himself

stamina wise?

morrie said:

wookiemeister said:

he used to sleep with naked young girls to “test” himself

Seems reasonable to me. Might even try that myself.

I mean, whats the worst thing that could happen?

19 shillings said:

wookiemeister said:

19 shillings said:

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Ghandi.

denied his wife medcine because it was all part of the western conspiracy yet when he was sick he readily took them. ghandi was a self serving little prick

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Unlike yourself..

i give advice i don’t force anyone to take it

ghandi had brainwashed his wife into thinking that he knew everything

maybe its after he got rid of his missus he started with young girls?

i give advice i don’t force anyone to take it

ghandi had brainwashed his wife into thinking that he knew everything

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unlike you…

19 shillings said:

i give advice i don’t force anyone to take it

ghandi had brainwashed his wife into thinking that he knew everything

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unlike you…

don’t you just hate it when the truth is spoken?

here – have a shilling

morrie said:

morrie said:

wookiemeister said:

he used to sleep with naked young girls to “test” himself

Seems reasonable to me. Might even try that myself.

I mean, whats the worst thing that could happen?

a limp penis

Bubblecar said:

Well, he almost certainly murdered his two juvenile nephews, and that alone was enough to raise the suspicion that he might not be a very nice man at all, even in those days :)

I’ve read that many times, in many sources. I’ve also read that there’s no evidence he did any of it. Have you read The Daughter of Time, by Josephine Tey?

Wocky said:

Bubblecar said:

Well, he almost certainly murdered his two juvenile nephews, and that alone was enough to raise the suspicion that he might not be a very nice man at all, even in those days :)

I’ve read that many times, in many sources. I’ve also read that there’s no evidence he did any of it. Have you read The Daughter of Time, by Josephine Tey?

Seems most of his bad reputation was because of Shakespeare.

Nothing really changes, does it?

jjjust moi said:

Seems most of his bad reputation was because of Shakespeare.

Nothing really changes, does it?

His reputation probably started with Thomas More’s biography of him, History of King Richard III (he worked on it between 1512 and 1519, but never finished it), although there were rumours about him during his lifetime. Shakespeare’s Richard almost certainly came from that work.

>I’ve also read that there’s no evidence he did any of it.

Not surprising that there’s little hard surviving evidence from a murder committed and covered up in the 15th century. But he’s clearly the most rational choice of culprit. He was responsible for their wellbeing at the time they “disappeared”, and never offered any explanation for it or launched any public investigation, or even accused anyone else of doing away with them.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2013/02/05/richard-iii-face-reconstructed-english-king_n_2623535.html?utm_hp_ref=science&ncid=edlinkusaolp00000009

http://media.smh.com.au/national/selections/britains-milliondollar-bionic-man-4011739.html?from=newsbox

Richard III + Rex = ?

Interesting that Rex means king.

kii said:

http://media.smh.com.au/national/selections/britains-milliondollar-bionic-man-4011739.html?from=newsbox

Richard III + Rex = ?

Interesting that Rex means king.

I was under the impression that you were well read, kii?

roughbarked said:

I was under the impression that you were well read, kii?

Some days. I can also do a pretty mean Google. What are you referring to?

kii said:

roughbarked said:

I was under the impression that you were well read, kii?

Some days. I can also do a pretty mean Google. What are you referring to?

“interesting that Rex=King.”

roughbarked said:

“interesting that Rex=King.”

…and?

roughbarked said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

I was under the impression that you were well read, kii?

Some days. I can also do a pretty mean Google. What are you referring to?

“interesting that Rex=King.”

Personally my money for interesting would be on that in the Free Online Dictionary of Computing..: REX

The original name for {Restructured EXtended eXecutor}.

That’s nice, dear.

kii said:

That’s nice, dear.

Yes, I am expensive.. ;)

Well, REX The original name for {Restructured EXtended eXecutor}.

Does sound King, like.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Some days. I can also do a pretty mean Google. What are you referring to?

“interesting that Rex=King.”

Personally my money for interesting would be on that in the Free Online Dictionary of Computing..: REX

The original name for {Restructured EXtended eXecutor}.

So what is the explanation for “Regina” = Queen?

bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

“interesting that Rex=King.”

Personally my money for interesting would be on that in the Free Online Dictionary of Computing..: REX

The original name for {Restructured EXtended eXecutor}.

So what is the explanation for “Regina” = Queen?

Regina

<standard> A widely-used {open source} {Rexx} {interpreter} by Anders Christensen <anders@pvv.unit.no>, ported to many {platforms} including {Unix}, {Windows 95}, {Windows NT}, {OS/2}. Regina is currently maintained by Mark Hessling. Regina conforms almost completely to Rexx Language Level 4.00, with some Rexx SAA API extensions. It is distributed under the GNU {General Public License}.

Yeah thanks roughy, I’m now even more confused.

In Latin:

Rex = King

Regina = Queen

sibeen said:

In Latin:

Rex = King

Regina = Queen

Yair.. we knew that.

roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

In Latin:

Rex = King

Regina = Queen

Yair.. we knew that.

bob(from black rock) said:

Yeah thanks roughy, I’m now even more confused.

No, we didn’t.

poikilotherm said:

roughbarked said:

sibeen said:

In Latin:

Rex = King

Regina = Queen

Yair.. we knew that.

bob(from black rock) said:

Yeah thanks roughy, I’m now even more confused.

No, we didn’t.

Gawd.. you never look at your coins?

roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

Personally my money for interesting would be on that in the Free Online Dictionary of Computing..: REX

The original name for {Restructured EXtended eXecutor}.

Derr roughy, I think the penny has just dropped for me, it’s all about ‘pooters and shit.

So what is the explanation for “Regina” = Queen?

Regina

<standard> A widely-used {open source} {Rexx} {interpreter} by Anders Christensen <anders@pvv.unit.no>, ported to many {platforms} including {Unix}, {Windows 95}, {Windows NT}, {OS/2}. Regina is currently maintained by Mark Hessling. Regina conforms almost completely to Rexx Language Level 4.00, with some Rexx SAA API extensions. It is distributed under the GNU {General Public License}.

roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

Personally my money for interesting would be on that in the Free Online Dictionary of Computing..: REX

The original name for {Restructured EXtended eXecutor}.

Derr roughy, I think the penny has just dropped for me, it’s all about ‘pooters and shit.

So what is the explanation for “Regina” = Queen?

Regina

<standard> A widely-used {open source} {Rexx} {interpreter} by Anders Christensen <anders@pvv.unit.no>, ported to many {platforms} including {Unix}, {Windows 95}, {Windows NT}, {OS/2}. Regina is currently maintained by Mark Hessling. Regina conforms almost completely to Rexx Language Level 4.00, with some Rexx SAA API extensions. It is distributed under the GNU {General Public License}.

bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

So what is the explanation for “Regina” = Queen?

Regina

<standard> A widely-used {open source} {Rexx} {interpreter} by Anders Christensen <anders@pvv.unit.no>, ported to many {platforms} including {Unix}, {Windows 95}, {Windows NT}, {OS/2}. Regina is currently maintained by Mark Hessling. Regina conforms almost completely to Rexx Language Level 4.00, with some Rexx SAA API extensions. It is distributed under the GNU {General Public License}.

Derr roughy, I think the penny has just dropped for me, it’s all about ‘pooters and shit.

It is also about computers but the interesting thing is the similarity to the Latin.

It seems that roughbarked tried to add another layer to the rex reference and this has confuzzled peoples.

All I want to say was – a robot named Rex (who seems to be English) appears in the news just days after Ricky the Third makes an appearance. Add the two together and we could resurrect the king.

……..sigh

roughbarked said:

poikilotherm said:

roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Yeah thanks roughy, I’m now even more confused.

No, we didn’t.

Gawd.. you never look at your coins?

Not talking about me, was referring to we.

It’s like wet paper bags….

kii said:

It seems that roughbarked tried to add another layer to the rex reference and this has confuzzled peoples.

All I want to say was – a robot named Rex (who seems to be English) appears in the news just days after Ricky the Third makes an appearance. Add the two together and we could resurrect the king.

……..sigh

and.. where’s the difference?

;)

roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

Regina

<standard> A widely-used {open source} {Rexx} {interpreter} by Anders Christensen <anders@pvv.unit.no>, ported to many {platforms} including {Unix}, {Windows 95}, {Windows NT}, {OS/2}. Regina is currently maintained by Mark Hessling. Regina conforms almost completely to Rexx Language Level 4.00, with some Rexx SAA API extensions. It is distributed under the GNU {General Public License}.

Derr roughy, I think the penny has just dropped for me, it’s all about ‘pooters and shit.

It is also about computers but the interesting thing is the similarity to the Latin.

So WTF did they do this?

kii said:

It’s like wet paper bags….

hard to open?

…takes more drugs…

bob(from black rock) said:

roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Derr roughy, I think the penny has just dropped for me, it’s all about ‘pooters and shit.

It is also about computers but the interesting thing is the similarity to the Latin.

So WTF did they do this?

Because they knew what Rex and Regina referred to.. they played with the terminology to make it fit.

kii said:

…takes more drugs…

I’ll back off then.. ;)

kii said:

It’s like wet paper bags….

:)

It’s like wet paper bags….

i thought it was like a red rubber ball…I’ve got my life to live and I don’t need you at all