Date: 22/02/2013 15:27:14
From: Divine Angel
ID: 268311
Subject: Bugs & Open Doors

There’s an open question in New Scientist that will be answered in a future issue, but I’m impatient and want to know now, so it’s over to you lot.

If I have an open door and a bee flies in, am I better off leaving the door open so the bee will fly out again, or close the door because there’s a greater chance more will fly in?

(I suspect the answer is: more will fly in).

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:29:25
From: poikilotherm
ID: 268313
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Divine Angel said:


There’s an open question in New Scientist that will be answered in a future issue, but I’m impatient and want to know now, so it’s over to you lot.

If I have an open door and a bee flies in, am I better off leaving the door open so the bee will fly out again, or close the door because there’s a greater chance more will fly in?

(I suspect the answer is: more will fly in).

I’d leave the door open…

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:30:51
From: jjjust moi
ID: 268315
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Divine Angel said:


There’s an open question in New Scientist that will be answered in a future issue, but I’m impatient and want to know now, so it’s over to you lot.

If I have an open door and a bee flies in, am I better off leaving the door open so the bee will fly out again, or close the door because there’s a greater chance more will fly in?

(I suspect the answer is: more will fly in).


I know for a fact what works with blowflies.

Have no experience with bees :)

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:31:42
From: Divine Angel
ID: 268316
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Does it matter if the bugs are bees, flies or mozzies? Or same answer for each?

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:32:20
From: Skunkworks
ID: 268317
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

If the screen opens onto a darkened hall or room leave it open, they will fly out to the light again.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:32:35
From: Boris
ID: 268318
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

leave it open. the bee, with a little guidance, will fly out again. if there was food that it found and went back to the hive and danced then you may get more bees in if you then left the door open. but i have found that you only get one bee. or half a bee. called eric btw.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:33:44
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 268319
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

poikilotherm said:


Divine Angel said:

There’s an open question in New Scientist that will be answered in a future issue, but I’m impatient and want to know now, so it’s over to you lot.

If I have an open door and a bee flies in, am I better off leaving the door open so the bee will fly out again, or close the door because there’s a greater chance more will fly in?

(I suspect the answer is: more will fly in).

Shut door, use fly spray on the trapped bee.
What is my prize?

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:33:48
From: poikilotherm
ID: 268320
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Divine Angel said:


Does it matter if the bugs are bees, flies or mozzies? Or same answer for each?

Also, I don’t think bees are bugs…

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:36:28
From: Skunkworks
ID: 268321
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Divine Angel said:


Does it matter if the bugs are bees, flies or mozzies? Or same answer for each?

Does for my answer, flys will actually fly into cooler conditions on stinking days, but otherwise they follow the stink so they will stay in any house they can locate something that smells nice to them.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:36:49
From: Boris
ID: 268322
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

What are the differences between bugs and beetles?

Bugs and beetles may sometimes look similar at first glance, but they belong to two quite different insect groups. Here are some features that can help distinguish between them.
Mouthparts

Bugs: mouthparts modified into piercing stylet (i.e. needle-like).
Beetles: chewing mouthparts.

Wings

Bugs: wings (if present) are membranous or partially thickened.
Beetles: forewings modified to form hard, leathery coverings called elytra, hindwings membranous and fold under elytra when not flying.

Diet

Bugs: liquid diet: mostly plant-feeders (nectar/sap), some feeders on animal fluids.
Beetles: wide range of plant and animal materials eaten.

Lifecycle

Bugs: incomplete metamorphosis – juveniles resemble adults except smaller and lack wings.
Beetles: complete metamorphosis – larvae with hardened head, chewing mouthparts and usually have legs.

Scientific classification

Bugs: Order Hemiptera
Beetles: Order Coleoptera

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:38:00
From: Boris
ID: 268323
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

http://australianmuseum.net.au/What-are-the-differences-between-bugs-and-beetles

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:39:41
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 268324
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Story on the radio today about a Hotel in Calfornia, the water at the hotel had a funny taste for quite a while, eventually they had a look in the water tanks on the roof and found a decaying body in there.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:40:04
From: Divine Angel
ID: 268326
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Also, I don’t think “bugs” is a scientific term.

So, the answer depends. An open door will probably result in the bee flying out again, but then you’ll have a house full of flies and mozzies.

Bob’s flyspray answer wins :D

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:42:07
From: poikilotherm
ID: 268327
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Divine Angel said:


Also, I don’t think “bugs” is a scientific term.

na ah…bugs = hemiptera

“Hemiptera (pron.: /hɛˈmɪptərə/) is an order of insects most often known as the true bugs (cf. bug), comprising around 50,000–80,000 species of cicadas, aphids, planthoppers, leafhoppers, shield bugs, and others.”

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:42:22
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 268328
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Peak Warming Man said:


Story on the radio today about a Hotel in Calfornia, the water at the hotel had a funny taste for quite a while, eventually they had a look in the water tanks on the roof and found a decaying body in there.

So if you had any water from there it would be a “Stiff drink”?

Sorry, couldn’t help myself.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:43:36
From: Divine Angel
ID: 268329
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

bugs, true bugs… just like berries aren’t true berries. It’s all relative.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:43:47
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 268330
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Leave the door open, as bees have good mapping ability and will easily find their way back out again. Unless, of course, you have a food source for them inside your house, in which case you will have a lot more as soon as the bee gets back to tell the others.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:43:59
From: Boris
ID: 268331
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

na ah…bugs = hemiptera

yeah, that’s what i said.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:45:56
From: Boris
ID: 268332
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Leave the door open, as bees have good mapping ability and will easily find their way back out again. Unless, of course, you have a food source for them inside your house, in which case you will have a lot more as soon as the bee gets back to tell the others.

yeah, i said that too.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:46:16
From: poikilotherm
ID: 268333
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Carmen_Sandiego said:

Leave the door open, as bees have good mapping ability and will easily find their way back out again. Unless, of course, you have a food source for them inside your house, in which case you will have a lot more as soon as the bee gets back to tell the others.

Leaving the door open also doesn’t work so well when the queen decides she wants to live in the ceiling cavity of your house…not that closing it helps in that case either.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:46:27
From: Boris
ID: 268334
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

i laugh.

;-)

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:47:13
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 268335
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Look I just don’t know, sure I could make something up but if I got it wrong, terribly wrong, a bee could needlessly die.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:47:38
From: Boris
ID: 268336
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Leaving the door open also doesn’t work so well when the queen decides she wants to live in the ceiling cavity of your house……

talcum powder.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:48:33
From: Skunkworks
ID: 268337
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Peak Warming Man said:


Look I just don’t know, sure I could make something up but if I got it wrong, terribly wrong, a bee could needlessly die.

heheheh

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:48:54
From: Boris
ID: 268338
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

a bee could needlessly die.

german coackroach voice….

plenty more where they came from.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:50:08
From: Skunkworks
ID: 268339
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

poikilotherm said:


Carmen_Sandiego said:

Leave the door open, as bees have good mapping ability and will easily find their way back out again. Unless, of course, you have a food source for them inside your house, in which case you will have a lot more as soon as the bee gets back to tell the others.

Leaving the door open also doesn’t work so well when the queen decides she wants to live in the ceiling cavity of your house…not that closing it helps in that case either.

I have a live hive in my shed and they fly out via the eave. No problems so far but I don’t lock the car doors, just in case I need to get away in a hurry.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:56:03
From: poikilotherm
ID: 268340
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

Skunkworks said:


poikilotherm said:

Carmen_Sandiego said:

Leave the door open, as bees have good mapping ability and will easily find their way back out again. Unless, of course, you have a food source for them inside your house, in which case you will have a lot more as soon as the bee gets back to tell the others.

Leaving the door open also doesn’t work so well when the queen decides she wants to live in the ceiling cavity of your house…not that closing it helps in that case either.

I have a live hive in my shed and they fly out via the eave. No problems so far but I don’t lock the car doors, just in case I need to get away in a hurry.

Shed would be alright, honey oozes through gyprock, which smells rather pleasant but makes quite a mess.

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Date: 22/02/2013 15:58:01
From: Skunkworks
ID: 268341
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

poikilotherm said:

Shed would be alright, honey oozes through gyprock, which smells rather pleasant but makes quite a mess.

They are living in a couple of hives. Shed was full of them, got rid of most but still got a pyramid going up to the roof at the back. They live in the top few hives.

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Date: 22/02/2013 17:58:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 268462
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

a) Shut door, catch bee
b) Open door, free bee
c) Shut door again

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Date: 23/02/2013 13:09:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 268881
Subject: re: Bugs & Open Doors

I’ve got a mud wasp in here at the moment looking for a place to build a mud nest.
They just do their own thing and can come in and out through the window which is never fully shut.

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