Date: 17/03/2013 15:55:27
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 282368
Subject: Salt tolerance?

Which life form has the highest salt tolerance? and what is the highest level for humans?

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:00:01
From: Angus Prune
ID: 282370
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

Probably some sort of microbe from Archaea.

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:06:08
From: morrie
ID: 282372
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

bob(from black rock) said:


Which life form has the highest salt tolerance? and what is the highest level for humans?

I would hazard a guess for the first one at one of the organisms that lives in salt lakes. One is a bacterium that is pink. I think there are some others like Archeae that inhabit similar environments.

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:06:52
From: poikilotherm
ID: 282373
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Halophile

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:07:27
From: poikilotherm
ID: 282374
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Haloarchaea

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:14:36
From: morrie
ID: 282376
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

Bob, I have some hundred percent pure salt right here in my hand. It doesn’t seem to be doing me any harm. Let me just consult the MSDS just in case.

arrrggghhhh!

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:23:05
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 282377
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

The reason for the question, I can remember back in the late 40’s some people used salt in place of tooth paste, and was wondering how effective salt would be compared to “normal” tooth paste?

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:27:07
From: Angus Prune
ID: 282378
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

bob(from black rock) said:


The reason for the question, I can remember back in the late 40’s some people used salt in place of tooth paste, and was wondering how effective salt would be compared to “normal” tooth paste?

Abrasive, but not as fine, and probably has a tendency to dissolve before it’s scrubbed much. Also no surfactants. So I’d say less effective.

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:28:41
From: party_pants
ID: 282379
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

bob(from black rock) said:


…. and what is the highest level for humans?

What do you mean by this – salt content in drinking water?

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:39:22
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 282381
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

party_pants said:


bob(from black rock) said:

…. and what is the highest level for humans?

What do you mean by this – salt content in drinking water?

Yes and or food stuffs? or perhaps total daily ingestion of salt/ kg of body weight? and what would be the minimum daily requirement of Na Cl?
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Date: 17/03/2013 16:41:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 282383
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

bob(from black rock) said:


party_pants said:

bob(from black rock) said:

…. and what is the highest level for humans?

What do you mean by this – salt content in drinking water?

Yes and or food stuffs? or perhaps total daily ingestion of salt/ kg of body weight? and what would be the minimum daily requirement of Na Cl?

Not sure we actually require it at all.

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:42:57
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 282385
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

roughbarked said:

Not sure we actually require it at all.

Yes we do. It’s a basic dietary requirement. And not just for humans. Other animals seek it out too.

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:43:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 282386
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

http://www.ext.colostate.edu/pubs/foodnut/09354.html

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:44:22
From: roughbarked
ID: 282387
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

Witty Rejoinder said:


roughbarked said:

Not sure we actually require it at all.

Yes we do. It’s a basic dietary requirement. And not just for humans. Other animals seek it out too.

Yes but not necessarily the whole teaspoon at once?

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:44:38
From: Angus Prune
ID: 282388
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

roughbarked said:


bob(from black rock) said:

party_pants said:

What do you mean by this – salt content in drinking water?

Yes and or food stuffs? or perhaps total daily ingestion of salt/ kg of body weight? and what would be the minimum daily requirement of Na Cl?

Not sure we actually require it at all.

Well, we need sodium, and we need chloride.

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:44:39
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 282389
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

roughbarked said:


bob(from black rock) said:

party_pants said:

What do you mean by this – salt content in drinking water?

Yes and or food stuffs? or perhaps total daily ingestion of salt/ kg of body weight? and what would be the minimum daily requirement of Na Cl?

Not sure we actually require it at all.

roughy, that was what I was thinking, would we be better off with a zero intake?
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Date: 17/03/2013 16:47:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 282390
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

bob(from black rock) said:


roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Yes and or food stuffs? or perhaps total daily ingestion of salt/ kg of body weight? and what would be the minimum daily requirement of Na Cl?

Not sure we actually require it at all.

roughy, that was what I was thinking, would we be better off with a zero intake?

No.

We need small amounts. Sodium has an important role in maintaining the water balance within cells and in the function of both nerve impulses and muscle

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:47:45
From: bob(from black rock)
ID: 282391
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

Angus Prune said:


roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Yes and or food stuffs? or perhaps total daily ingestion of salt/ kg of body weight? and what would be the minimum daily requirement of Na Cl?

Not sure we actually require it at all.

Well, we need sodium, and we need chloride.

Yeah and we probably also need nitrogen and glycerine but not in the form of nitroglycerine?
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Date: 17/03/2013 16:50:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 282392
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

bob(from black rock) said:


Angus Prune said:

roughbarked said:

Not sure we actually require it at all.

Well, we need sodium, and we need chloride.

Yeah and we probably also need nitrogen and glycerine but not in the form of nitroglycerine?

Many foods contain the sodium and chloride.

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Date: 17/03/2013 16:52:28
From: morrie
ID: 282393
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

roughbarked said:


bob(from black rock) said:

Angus Prune said:

Well, we need sodium, and we need chloride.

Yeah and we probably also need nitrogen and glycerine but not in the form of nitroglycerine?

Many foods contain the sodium and chloride.


Roll mops

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Date: 17/03/2013 23:12:11
From: AussieDJ
ID: 282557
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

morrie said:


roughbarked said:

bob(from black rock) said:
Yeah and we probably also need nitrogen and glycerine but not in the form of nitroglycerine?

Many foods contain the sodium and chloride.


Roll mops

Pickled herring. Yum.

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Date: 17/03/2013 23:43:52
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 282587
Subject: re: Salt tolerance?

“The Fluid Inclusion Exhibit features the world’s oldest living organism, estimated to be about 250 million years old. The unprecedented discovery of living bacteria found trapped inside a salt crystal is the work of Drs. Russell Vreeland, William Rosenzweig, and Dennis Powers. Their findings indicate the cells from which those spores presumably formed were alive and active before the time of dinosaurs. The three scientists were at the museum for the exhibit opening and collected salt samples from the Hutchinson mine for further research.”

For news article on this see http://www.sciencenews.org/sn_arc99/6_12_99/fob3.htm
For technical article (letter to Nature) see http://www.its.caltech.edu/~bi1/Bi1__Micro-_to_Macro-Biology/Exams_files/Ancient%20DNA%20paper.pdf

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