Date: 25/03/2013 12:02:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 286260
Subject: Hairless Humans

My dad has been researching when humans lost their fur. (I don’t know where he’s found this “research”). He read something from anthropologists saying humans had a stint in the water, so they lost their hair (but wouldn’t have humans also gained other things like gills?). Someone else said humans evolved without hair to be less attractive to bitey and itchy bugs (but if that were true then surely dogs would follow suit).

So, when and why did humans lose the majority of their body hair?

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:08:09
From: kii
ID: 286263
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

Divine Angel said:

So, when and why did humans lose the majority of their body hair?

When men took up manscaping.

:(

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:11:06
From: Twoy
ID: 286264
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

Commencing shit-fight about Aquatic Ape Theory in 3…2…1…

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:17:26
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 286265
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

I don’t know if anyone knows exactly when humans lost their hair. We do know when humans first started wearing clothes, determined by the separate evolutionary timescales of head lice and pubic lice. So we must have become mostly hairless before that. I can recommend Desmond Morris “The naked ape” 1967 as a good read. Most people became aware of the aquatic ape hypothesis after the release of “The Descent of Woman (1972)” by Elaine Morris.

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:27:02
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 286269
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

mollwollfumble said:


I don’t know if anyone knows exactly when humans lost their hair. We do know when humans first started wearing clothes, determined by the separate evolutionary timescales of head lice and pubic lice. So we must have become mostly hairless before that.

Why must we?

Wouldn’t loss (or thinning) of hair be a result of the start of wearing of clothes, rather than vice versa?

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:28:19
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 286270
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

Web pictures of Neanderthal Man picture him as hairless, he was around circa 500,000 years ago.

This website http://buffonescience9.wikispaces.com/UNIT+5+-+Evolution
also illustrates Homo Habilis (2 million years ago) and Homo Erectus (1.6 million years ago) as hairless
but puts hair all over Australopithecus Afarensis (4 million years ago).

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:31:02
From: Boris
ID: 286271
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

http://www.scientificamerican.com/article.cfm?id=latest-theory-human-body-hair

http://anthropology.net/2007/06/08/on-why-some-humans-have-lost-their-body-hair-why-are-we-the-only-hairless-primate/

some views.

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:32:39
From: Bubblecar
ID: 286272
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

There are various hypotheses, but the “aquatic ape” idea is the least popular amongst palaeoanthropologists. This Straight Dope entry seems an adequate summary of the main suggestions (and saves me having to write one myself :))

>We’re sexier with no hair. Charles Darwin was one of the first to suggest this, although he didn’t put it so bluntly. He merely noted that hairlessness may have been a factor in sexual selection and that women, historically the object rather than the initiator of pursuit, have less hair than men. Many later scientists have suggested variations on this theme. However, it can’t be the entire explanation. While nakedness may increase lust, a fat lot of good that does you if the other party has frozen to death.

Lack of hair makes it easier to cool off. Since it’s generally agreed humankind originated in tropical Africa, this is plausible — indigenous inhabitants of tropical regions typically wore minimal clothing before being overtaken by modernity. Zoologist Desmond Morris, author of the 1967 best seller The Naked Ape, offers the twist that hairlessness prevented hominid hunters from overheating when chasing game, which also makes sense; as distance runners we have few equals among mammals. But again, that surely isn’t the whole story, as we shall see.

Humans are descended from aquatic apes. The idea is that hairlessness made our seafood-loving forebears more streamlined in the water. There’s little evidence supporting this much-promoted notion, and scientists have roundly rejected it.

Less hair = fewer bugs, or to put it more formally, hairlessness reduces “parasite load.” Another unpersuasive claim: notwithstanding their paucity of hair, humans have largely been infested with lice, fleas, and other parasites until recently.

If none of the above explanations will cut it, what does? Here we have to guess, since the timeline of human development is poorly understood. Our hominid ancestors began walking on two legs at least 4 million years ago, and the trend toward bigger brains began about 2 million years ago. Genetic analysis suggests hominids have been hairless for at least 1.2 million years. Clothing is much more recent — the earliest evidence for hide scraping, the most primitive form of couture, dates back just 300,000 years.

The wild card is fire, needed not just to keep the cave warm but for cooking, another critical step. Recent archaeological analysis suggests hominids were using fire as of a million years ago.

If it turns out hairlessness and mastery of fire occurred around the same time, we have a plausible sequence of events. Once they were no longer at the mercy of the elements, hominids could indulge a yen for less hirsute mates without jeopardizing their offspring.

If the tendency to hairlessness long preceded fire we have more of a puzzle, although not necessarily an insoluble one: the random genetic mutation that made hairlessness possible might have occurred in the ancient past but not expressed itself till conditions were favorable. We know, for example, that Homo erectus lived 1.8 million years ago in the Caucasus region, which had cold winters then as now. Without fire, these protohumans must have had hairy coats to survive.

Once our ancestors had acquired both fire and clothing, there was nothing to prevent nakedness from becoming dominant, and at some point the capacity to grow abundant body hair evidently was lost. When the ancestors of modern east Asians were trapped in Siberia by glaciers during the last ice age, 25,000 to 50,000 years ago, they evolved eyefolds and flatter facial features to protect against the cold. But body hair didn’t re-emerge.

Technology, in this reading, made nakedness possible, and nakedness in turn made technology indispensable. We’ve been the prisoners of our own cleverness ever since.<

http://www.straightdope.com/columns/read/3082/why-do-humans-have-so-little-body-hair

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:33:44
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 286274
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

mollwollfumble said:


Web pictures of Neanderthal Man picture him as hairless, he was around circa 500,000 years ago.

This website http://buffonescience9.wikispaces.com/UNIT+5+-+Evolution
also illustrates Homo Habilis (2 million years ago) and Homo Erectus (1.6 million years ago) as hairless
but puts hair all over Australopithecus Afarensis (4 million years ago).

But how good is their evidence for these conclusions? (just a question, I have no idea).

Does lack of body hair in an animal of human size provide an advantage in travelling long distances in hot climates?

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:38:17
From: Bubblecar
ID: 286276
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

>But how good is their evidence for these conclusions? (just a question, I have no idea).

Much depends on whether an early species is judged to have been technologically advanced enough to be able to compensate for lack of body hair by use of animal skins and fire in order to keep adequately warm when needed.

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Date: 25/03/2013 12:44:28
From: poikilotherm
ID: 286280
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

It could just be chance that another favoured genetic variation of something also happened to result in less hair, couldn’t it?

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Date: 25/03/2013 13:04:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 286292
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

poikilotherm said:


It could just be chance that another favoured genetic variation of something also happened to result in less hair, couldn’t it?

The mutation itself was obviously not prohibitively improbable. What matters is why/how it then became part of the basic human recipe, and this obviously depends on the timing of other evolutionary factors involving other mutations (such as the development of larger brains).

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Date: 25/03/2013 13:09:41
From: Angus Prune
ID: 286294
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

poikilotherm said:


It could just be chance that another favoured genetic variation of something also happened to result in less hair, couldn’t it?

Unlikely, given the role of hair in temperature regulation, aesthetics, hygeine, and the fact that we have kept hair in certain specific places.

(incidentally… otters, beavers, platypodes, water rats, and many other creatures are aquatic but hairy)

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Date: 25/03/2013 20:38:21
From: Dropbear
ID: 286560
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

Divine Angel said:

So, when and why did humans lose the majority of their body hair?

many middle eastern types havnt

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Date: 25/03/2013 20:41:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 286563
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

Dropbear said:


Divine Angel said:

So, when and why did humans lose the majority of their body hair?

many middle eastern types havnt

I was trying to constrain myself from looking over the last few days at the unusual hair pattern on the whole body(the bits I could see).. of a male Italian part Sicilian part Milano. It is really difficult to describe.. maybe I should take photos?

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Date: 25/03/2013 21:01:42
From: Mr Ironic
ID: 286570
Subject: re: Hairless Humans

Yeah but no but… we are not hairless.

What is the hair count between umans and say chimps?

Ours are short and fine and fallout in contact with cotton socks but how many less hairs do we not have…

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