Date: 25/03/2013 22:49:09
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286646
Subject: LeRoy

One Thursday last September, a crop-dusting plane swooped down over a cornfield in Western New York and dipped below the tree line, spraying an insecticide engineered to paralyze the nervous system of agricultural pests called earworms. After several passes, the plane climbed, banked sharply, and flew away.

The event, captured on this video by a local resident, is noteworthy for when and where it happened: on a school day, on a field adjoining LeRoy Junior-Senior High School in Western New York, where an outbreak of tic disorders among 18 students, mostly girls, would soon gain national attention. By then two girls had developed symptoms, according to the state Health Department – one in May 2011, the other earlier in September – but the bulk of the cases would follow, including two more the next week.

“This cornfield is adjacent to the school property and uphill from the school,” the neighbor who took the video wrote in an e-mail. “The fields in our area are dusted at least twice a year.”

The “dust” that settled that day is called Tundra. Its active ingredient, bifenthrin, has been linked at high doses in animal studies to some of the same symptoms experienced by the LeRoy students. U.S. regulators regard it as much safer than earlier generations of pesticides such as DDT, but it was banned in Europe until just last week due to environmental concerns.

Most of the LeRoy girls were diagnosed by a local neurology clinic with a psychiatric illness called conversion disorder, a finding the state Health Department endorsed despite the protests of parents who said their daughters were not emotionally disturbed. Several investigations, including one made public last month, found no evidence of environmental contamination.

In May 2011, a ban on all pesticide use on school grounds went into effect in New York State. But the investigators did not appear to consider the possibility of pesticide drift or runoff from neighboring property in the intensively farmed region, or test for currently used pesticides like bifenthrin – only ones banned decades ago. There is no evidence that the crop-dusting on September 22, or any other date, was part of any investigation. (Our inquiries to the school district and the environmental consulting firm have not yet been answered.)

The video, shot by Leroy Township resident Don Dessert from his nearby home, was sent in March to the state Department of Environmental Conservation. We obtained it last week through a Freedom of Information Law request, along with supporting documents. In an e-mail accompanying the video, Dessert wrote that it showed “a crop duster spraying the cornfield on the other side of the tree stand from my house.”

Dessert attached a fact sheet on agricultural practices for corn to illustrate “what part of the chemistry set is put on corn crops. Makes me want to find some organic corn …” He included a photo diagram showing his location in relation to the field and the school (click to enlarge photo):

Just below the cornfield in this photo looking south is a retention basin and the girls’ softball field. In some aerial photographs, including the one on the school’s Web site, the basin is full of water. The period between April and September of last year was the rainiest ever in Rochester and Buffalo, the two big cities to the east and west of Leroy.

As we wrote in February, “School officials who say environmental factors can’t be responsible for the outbreak of tics at the Junior/Senior High School might want to check last year’s record rainfalls – and the flood-prone ground right under their feet.

“Parts of the school grounds — including athletic fields — are right on top of a federally designated FEMA Flood Hazard Area. … The zone cuts right across the girls’ softball diamond.” (In this photo, north is toward the top of the frame, and the field that was sprayed September 22 is visible at the bottom.)

Officials told us then that the school’s pesticide log was examined as part of the initial investigation but, because no pesticides were applied on school grounds during the preceding year, pesticides were ruled out as a factor. (Pesticide use was banned on all public school grounds in the state as of May 18, 2011.)

The Department of Environmental Conservation’s internal notes obtained through the FOIA request show it ruled out the crop-dusting as a cause of the outbreak.

“Staff assisted with a response to a citizen report of corn cropdusting in Leroy (T), Genesee County, where several students at the local high school had experienced symptoms of an unexplained disorder,” according to a June entry in its incident log. “Investigation determined that an aerial application to a corn crop had occurred at the location alleged in the citizen report. And while a Region 3 inspection of the applicator’s business records did turn up an unrelated paperwork violation, nothing about the Leroy corn application was in violation. Likewise, there had been at the time of the application no complaints from the school or anyone else that they had noticed or been affected by it. The information obtained by the Department was provided to the citizen who initially made the report.”

The cornfield is owned by Donald Pangrazio and managed by Harris Farms, according to the DEC, and the pilot was Theodore Kutschera of Callicoon, N.Y. He was cited in a letter by DEC for failing to maintain a required certification. The department said it would not take enforcement action, but warned “further violations will be prosecuted.”

It is unknown whether the school district, the state Health Department, or the outside consulting firm, Leader Professional Services, was aware of the incident or the report. Last month, Leader completed an extensive, $70,000 report that found no current environmental hazards.

“The air, soil and surface water sampling conducted at the site did not identify chemicals at concentrations which could be considered to have health impacts to students, teachers, administrative staff or the public occupying the site,” the Leader report said.

Based on that, LeRoy Superintendent Kim Cox wrote district families in June: “I have excellent news to announce concerning the results of the air, soil and surface water testing of the Junior/Senior High School building and grounds by Leader Professional Services. Leader has compiled an extensive report concerning the testing undertaken and subsequent analysis, concluding there are no adverse health impacts from contaminants in the air, soil or water in or around our high school campus.”

Dr. Laszlo Mechtler, vice president at Dent Neurologic Institute and the neurologist who diagnosed many of the girls with conversion disorder, went further, saying the results confirmed his diagnosis and treatment. (Only one student still has symptoms, he told The Buffalo News in June.) Mechtler said Erin Brockovich, the activist who raised the possibility of toxic effects from a train derailment in the township or other causes, should “now go on national TV and take back her dramatic speculation about environmental toxins being the root cause of the disorders,” according to the newspaper.

Brockovich was brought in by some of the parents who scoffed at the conversion disorder diagnosis, which has its origins in the late 19th century Freudian concept of “hysteria,” in which patients, most often young women, supposedly convert mental trauma into physical symptoms. When that happens to several members of a group at once, it is called mass hysteria, or in modern parlance, a mass psychogenic event. (Based on research for our 2010 book, “The Age of Autism,” we believe the illness doesn’t really exist. See “The Crazy History of Conversion Disorder.”)

Conversion disorder is often described as a diagnosis of exclusion, in which physical causes are methodically ruled out first. Strikingly, Tundra, the pesticide sprayed on the field, has been shown to cause symptoms in animals that parallel those suffered by the girls, who in addition to tics had trouble walking and standing and suffered breathing problems, strange sensations, seizures and blackouts.

Bifenthrin, the active chemical in the pesticide, was banned in Europe until last week because of safety concerns.

When fed to rats at high doses, symptoms included “tremors, clonic convulsions, twitching, incoordination, staggered gait, splayed hind limbs, atypical posture,” according to a Technical Fact Sheet from the National Pesticide Information Center.

Bifenthrin and other high-tech pesticides have been cited as possible culprits in the collapse of bee colonies around the country. In a well-known study, a California researcher found that flea-killing pet shampoos containing pyrethrins – the class of chemicals to which bifenthrin belongs – might be linked to a risk of autism when handled by pregnant mothers.

None of that means the crop-dusting on September 22 caused any of the tic disorders, and federal regulators and the chemicals’ manufacturer say it is much safer than earlier generations of pesticides such as DDT. But the incident points to a very active pesticide-application program at the same time and place as the tic outbreak, and raises questions about why current pesticides—which are designed to disrupt the chemical and neurological functions of living things — were not considered.

The LeRoy schools’ own report in January seemed to acknowledge the possibility of contamination from adjacent property. It noted that New York State has adopted a Neighbor Notification under which counties can require pesticide users to inform neighboring landowners in advance.

“To date, Genesee County has not adopted a local law to comply with the Neighbor Notification Law,” the school’s report says. “Accordingly, school neighbors are not required to notify the school of any pesticides being used.”

Leader Professional Services tested for DDT, which was banned in the United States in 1972. Small amounts of DDT and its breakdown product, DDE, were detected on two soccer fields at the school, Leader reported, as was another banned pesticide.

“Pesticides were found in the samples taken,” Leader reported, “but such pesticides are no longer in use in the United States as such use has been prohibited. … The levels of same were significantly below the residential use criteria; such detections were not unexpected given the likely previous use of the JHSH site for agricultural purposes.”

In LeRoy, several of the girls whose families rejected the conversion disorder diagnosis obtained independent medical diagnoses that included a post-strep nervous system infection called PANDAS, as well as Lyme Disease. The New Jersey doctor who made several of those diagnoses, Rosario Trifiletti, examined the girls without charge; he said that such infectionsß did not rule out a possible environmental co-factor. One could exacerbate the other and lead to a new clinical syndrome, Trifiletti said.
http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/07/tics-and-toxins-new-evidence-raises-pesticide-concerns-in-new-york-state-outbreak.html

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Date: 25/03/2013 22:51:42
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 286649
Subject: re: LeRoy

work of mossad

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:02:55
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286653
Subject: re: LeRoy

neomyrtus_ said:


work of mossad

as far as i’m aware the pesticide industry isn’t too far removed from the chemical warfare industry

the way that chemical warfare is administered effectively is based on how it is sprayed, if you start getting really interested in how to spray chemicals you get flagged

as you’ve decided to get mossad involved, the bedouins of southern palestine were accusing the israelis of spraying their crops with chemicals – kill the crops, get rid of the bedouin because they have no money to survive there – they move on. paradoxically the bedouins and the paleastinians are most likely the real jews – the others are simply people who took up the religion years later and then stormed back into the land. the jews that stayed most likely took up islam – THE lost of israel never left israel, they are still there.

it wasn’t too long ago that the israelis were caught red handed robbing the corpses of the trophy kills of the IDF snipers to use for body parts.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:03:21
From: roughbarked
ID: 286654
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:

One Thursday last September, a crop-dusting plane swooped down over a cornfield in Western New York and dipped below the tree line, spraying an insecticide engineered to paralyze the nervous system of agricultural pests called earworms. After several passes, the plane climbed, banked sharply, and flew away.

The event, captured on this video by a local resident, is noteworthy for when and where it happened: on a school day, on a field adjoining LeRoy Junior-Senior High School in Western New York, where an outbreak of tic disorders among 18 students, mostly girls, would soon gain national attention. By then two girls had developed symptoms, according to the state Health Department – one in May 2011, the other earlier in September – but the bulk of the cases would follow, including two more the next week.

“This cornfield is adjacent to the school property and uphill from the school,” the neighbor who took the video wrote in an e-mail. “The fields in our area are dusted at least twice a year.”

The “dust” that settled that day is called Tundra. Its active ingredient, bifenthrin, has been linked at high doses in animal studies to some of the same symptoms experienced by the LeRoy students. U.S. regulators regard it as much safer than earlier generations of pesticides such as DDT, but it was banned in Europe until just last week due to environmental concerns.

Most of the LeRoy girls were diagnosed by a local neurology clinic with a psychiatric illness called conversion disorder, a finding the state Health Department endorsed despite the protests of parents who said their daughters were not emotionally disturbed. Several investigations, including one made public last month, found no evidence of environmental contamination.

In May 2011, a ban on all pesticide use on school grounds went into effect in New York State. But the investigators did not appear to consider the possibility of pesticide drift or runoff from neighboring property in the intensively farmed region, or test for currently used pesticides like bifenthrin – only ones banned decades ago. There is no evidence that the crop-dusting on September 22, or any other date, was part of any investigation. (Our inquiries to the school district and the environmental consulting firm have not yet been answered.)

The video, shot by Leroy Township resident Don Dessert from his nearby home, was sent in March to the state Department of Environmental Conservation. We obtained it last week through a Freedom of Information Law request, along with supporting documents. In an e-mail accompanying the video, Dessert wrote that it showed “a crop duster spraying the cornfield on the other side of the tree stand from my house.”

Dessert attached a fact sheet on agricultural practices for corn to illustrate “what part of the chemistry set is put on corn crops. Makes me want to find some organic corn …” He included a photo diagram showing his location in relation to the field and the school (click to enlarge photo):

Just below the cornfield in this photo looking south is a retention basin and the girls’ softball field. In some aerial photographs, including the one on the school’s Web site, the basin is full of water. The period between April and September of last year was the rainiest ever in Rochester and Buffalo, the two big cities to the east and west of Leroy.

As we wrote in February, “School officials who say environmental factors can’t be responsible for the outbreak of tics at the Junior/Senior High School might want to check last year’s record rainfalls – and the flood-prone ground right under their feet.

“Parts of the school grounds — including athletic fields — are right on top of a federally designated FEMA Flood Hazard Area. … The zone cuts right across the girls’ softball diamond.” (In this photo, north is toward the top of the frame, and the field that was sprayed September 22 is visible at the bottom.)

Officials told us then that the school’s pesticide log was examined as part of the initial investigation but, because no pesticides were applied on school grounds during the preceding year, pesticides were ruled out as a factor. (Pesticide use was banned on all public school grounds in the state as of May 18, 2011.)

The Department of Environmental Conservation’s internal notes obtained through the FOIA request show it ruled out the crop-dusting as a cause of the outbreak.

“Staff assisted with a response to a citizen report of corn cropdusting in Leroy (T), Genesee County, where several students at the local high school had experienced symptoms of an unexplained disorder,” according to a June entry in its incident log. “Investigation determined that an aerial application to a corn crop had occurred at the location alleged in the citizen report. And while a Region 3 inspection of the applicator’s business records did turn up an unrelated paperwork violation, nothing about the Leroy corn application was in violation. Likewise, there had been at the time of the application no complaints from the school or anyone else that they had noticed or been affected by it. The information obtained by the Department was provided to the citizen who initially made the report.”

The cornfield is owned by Donald Pangrazio and managed by Harris Farms, according to the DEC, and the pilot was Theodore Kutschera of Callicoon, N.Y. He was cited in a letter by DEC for failing to maintain a required certification. The department said it would not take enforcement action, but warned “further violations will be prosecuted.”

It is unknown whether the school district, the state Health Department, or the outside consulting firm, Leader Professional Services, was aware of the incident or the report. Last month, Leader completed an extensive, $70,000 report that found no current environmental hazards.

“The air, soil and surface water sampling conducted at the site did not identify chemicals at concentrations which could be considered to have health impacts to students, teachers, administrative staff or the public occupying the site,” the Leader report said.

Based on that, LeRoy Superintendent Kim Cox wrote district families in June: “I have excellent news to announce concerning the results of the air, soil and surface water testing of the Junior/Senior High School building and grounds by Leader Professional Services. Leader has compiled an extensive report concerning the testing undertaken and subsequent analysis, concluding there are no adverse health impacts from contaminants in the air, soil or water in or around our high school campus.”

Dr. Laszlo Mechtler, vice president at Dent Neurologic Institute and the neurologist who diagnosed many of the girls with conversion disorder, went further, saying the results confirmed his diagnosis and treatment. (Only one student still has symptoms, he told The Buffalo News in June.) Mechtler said Erin Brockovich, the activist who raised the possibility of toxic effects from a train derailment in the township or other causes, should “now go on national TV and take back her dramatic speculation about environmental toxins being the root cause of the disorders,” according to the newspaper.

Brockovich was brought in by some of the parents who scoffed at the conversion disorder diagnosis, which has its origins in the late 19th century Freudian concept of “hysteria,” in which patients, most often young women, supposedly convert mental trauma into physical symptoms. When that happens to several members of a group at once, it is called mass hysteria, or in modern parlance, a mass psychogenic event. (Based on research for our 2010 book, “The Age of Autism,” we believe the illness doesn’t really exist. See “The Crazy History of Conversion Disorder.”)

Conversion disorder is often described as a diagnosis of exclusion, in which physical causes are methodically ruled out first. Strikingly, Tundra, the pesticide sprayed on the field, has been shown to cause symptoms in animals that parallel those suffered by the girls, who in addition to tics had trouble walking and standing and suffered breathing problems, strange sensations, seizures and blackouts.

Bifenthrin, the active chemical in the pesticide, was banned in Europe until last week because of safety concerns.

When fed to rats at high doses, symptoms included “tremors, clonic convulsions, twitching, incoordination, staggered gait, splayed hind limbs, atypical posture,” according to a Technical Fact Sheet from the National Pesticide Information Center.

Bifenthrin and other high-tech pesticides have been cited as possible culprits in the collapse of bee colonies around the country. In a well-known study, a California researcher found that flea-killing pet shampoos containing pyrethrins – the class of chemicals to which bifenthrin belongs – might be linked to a risk of autism when handled by pregnant mothers.

None of that means the crop-dusting on September 22 caused any of the tic disorders, and federal regulators and the chemicals’ manufacturer say it is much safer than earlier generations of pesticides such as DDT. But the incident points to a very active pesticide-application program at the same time and place as the tic outbreak, and raises questions about why current pesticides—which are designed to disrupt the chemical and neurological functions of living things — were not considered.

The LeRoy schools’ own report in January seemed to acknowledge the possibility of contamination from adjacent property. It noted that New York State has adopted a Neighbor Notification under which counties can require pesticide users to inform neighboring landowners in advance.

“To date, Genesee County has not adopted a local law to comply with the Neighbor Notification Law,” the school’s report says. “Accordingly, school neighbors are not required to notify the school of any pesticides being used.”

Leader Professional Services tested for DDT, which was banned in the United States in 1972. Small amounts of DDT and its breakdown product, DDE, were detected on two soccer fields at the school, Leader reported, as was another banned pesticide.

“Pesticides were found in the samples taken,” Leader reported, “but such pesticides are no longer in use in the United States as such use has been prohibited. … The levels of same were significantly below the residential use criteria; such detections were not unexpected given the likely previous use of the JHSH site for agricultural purposes.”

In LeRoy, several of the girls whose families rejected the conversion disorder diagnosis obtained independent medical diagnoses that included a post-strep nervous system infection called PANDAS, as well as Lyme Disease. The New Jersey doctor who made several of those diagnoses, Rosario Trifiletti, examined the girls without charge; he said that such infectionsß did not rule out a possible environmental co-factor. One could exacerbate the other and lead to a new clinical syndrome, Trifiletti said.
http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/07/tics-and-toxins-new-evidence-raises-pesticide-concerns-in-new-york-state-outbreak.html

I still see farmers spray within metres of their own houses. I came home from work one day. Got out of my car and picked dome loquats from my tree which is outside my fence on crown land. Busily munching loquats I walked into the yard and entered through the back door being closest to where I parked. Of course I checked what you buggers were saying about me while still munching loquats. Later, I walked out to set some hoses running. and in the process came to the front door where I noticed a bit of paper shoved in the screen door. It could easily have blown away in the wind. The note was from the Dept. of Ag.. now known as primary industry.. blah.
The note read; We have sprayed your loquat tree with Fenthion. Do not touch the tree for xxx days.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:03:51
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286655
Subject: re: LeRoy

edit

the lost tribe of israel

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:05:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 286657
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


neomyrtus_ said:

work of mossad

as far as i’m aware the pesticide industry isn’t too far removed from the chemical warfare industry

the way that chemical warfare is administered effectively is based on how it is sprayed, if you start getting really interested in how to spray chemicals you get flagged

as you’ve decided to get mossad involved, the bedouins of southern palestine were accusing the israelis of spraying their crops with chemicals – kill the crops, get rid of the bedouin because they have no money to survive there – they move on. paradoxically the bedouins and the paleastinians are most likely the real jews – the others are simply people who took up the religion years later and then stormed back into the land. the jews that stayed most likely took up islam – THE lost of israel never left israel, they are still there.

it wasn’t too long ago that the israelis were caught red handed robbing the corpses of the trophy kills of the IDF snipers to use for body parts.

sheesh!

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:08:30
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286658
Subject: re: LeRoy

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

One Thursday last September, a crop-dusting plane swooped down over a cornfield in Western New York and dipped below the tree line, spraying an insecticide engineered to paralyze the nervous system of agricultural pests called earworms. After several passes, the plane climbed, banked sharply, and flew away.

The event, captured on this video by a local resident, is noteworthy for when and where it happened: on a school day, on a field adjoining LeRoy Junior-Senior High School in Western New York, where an outbreak of tic disorders among 18 students, mostly girls, would soon gain national attention. By then two girls had developed symptoms, according to the state Health Department – one in May 2011, the other earlier in September – but the bulk of the cases would follow, including two more the next week.

“This cornfield is adjacent to the school property and uphill from the school,” the neighbor who took the video wrote in an e-mail. “The fields in our area are dusted at least twice a year.”

The “dust” that settled that day is called Tundra. Its active ingredient, bifenthrin, has been linked at high doses in animal studies to some of the same symptoms experienced by the LeRoy students. U.S. regulators regard it as much safer than earlier generations of pesticides such as DDT, but it was banned in Europe until just last week due to environmental concerns.

Most of the LeRoy girls were diagnosed by a local neurology clinic with a psychiatric illness called conversion disorder, a finding the state Health Department endorsed despite the protests of parents who said their daughters were not emotionally disturbed. Several investigations, including one made public last month, found no evidence of environmental contamination.

In May 2011, a ban on all pesticide use on school grounds went into effect in New York State. But the investigators did not appear to consider the possibility of pesticide drift or runoff from neighboring property in the intensively farmed region, or test for currently used pesticides like bifenthrin – only ones banned decades ago. There is no evidence that the crop-dusting on September 22, or any other date, was part of any investigation. (Our inquiries to the school district and the environmental consulting firm have not yet been answered.)

The video, shot by Leroy Township resident Don Dessert from his nearby home, was sent in March to the state Department of Environmental Conservation. We obtained it last week through a Freedom of Information Law request, along with supporting documents. In an e-mail accompanying the video, Dessert wrote that it showed “a crop duster spraying the cornfield on the other side of the tree stand from my house.”

Dessert attached a fact sheet on agricultural practices for corn to illustrate “what part of the chemistry set is put on corn crops. Makes me want to find some organic corn …” He included a photo diagram showing his location in relation to the field and the school (click to enlarge photo):

Just below the cornfield in this photo looking south is a retention basin and the girls’ softball field. In some aerial photographs, including the one on the school’s Web site, the basin is full of water. The period between April and September of last year was the rainiest ever in Rochester and Buffalo, the two big cities to the east and west of Leroy.

As we wrote in February, “School officials who say environmental factors can’t be responsible for the outbreak of tics at the Junior/Senior High School might want to check last year’s record rainfalls – and the flood-prone ground right under their feet.

“Parts of the school grounds — including athletic fields — are right on top of a federally designated FEMA Flood Hazard Area. … The zone cuts right across the girls’ softball diamond.” (In this photo, north is toward the top of the frame, and the field that was sprayed September 22 is visible at the bottom.)

Officials told us then that the school’s pesticide log was examined as part of the initial investigation but, because no pesticides were applied on school grounds during the preceding year, pesticides were ruled out as a factor. (Pesticide use was banned on all public school grounds in the state as of May 18, 2011.)

The Department of Environmental Conservation’s internal notes obtained through the FOIA request show it ruled out the crop-dusting as a cause of the outbreak.

“Staff assisted with a response to a citizen report of corn cropdusting in Leroy (T), Genesee County, where several students at the local high school had experienced symptoms of an unexplained disorder,” according to a June entry in its incident log. “Investigation determined that an aerial application to a corn crop had occurred at the location alleged in the citizen report. And while a Region 3 inspection of the applicator’s business records did turn up an unrelated paperwork violation, nothing about the Leroy corn application was in violation. Likewise, there had been at the time of the application no complaints from the school or anyone else that they had noticed or been affected by it. The information obtained by the Department was provided to the citizen who initially made the report.”

The cornfield is owned by Donald Pangrazio and managed by Harris Farms, according to the DEC, and the pilot was Theodore Kutschera of Callicoon, N.Y. He was cited in a letter by DEC for failing to maintain a required certification. The department said it would not take enforcement action, but warned “further violations will be prosecuted.”

It is unknown whether the school district, the state Health Department, or the outside consulting firm, Leader Professional Services, was aware of the incident or the report. Last month, Leader completed an extensive, $70,000 report that found no current environmental hazards.

“The air, soil and surface water sampling conducted at the site did not identify chemicals at concentrations which could be considered to have health impacts to students, teachers, administrative staff or the public occupying the site,” the Leader report said.

Based on that, LeRoy Superintendent Kim Cox wrote district families in June: “I have excellent news to announce concerning the results of the air, soil and surface water testing of the Junior/Senior High School building and grounds by Leader Professional Services. Leader has compiled an extensive report concerning the testing undertaken and subsequent analysis, concluding there are no adverse health impacts from contaminants in the air, soil or water in or around our high school campus.”

Dr. Laszlo Mechtler, vice president at Dent Neurologic Institute and the neurologist who diagnosed many of the girls with conversion disorder, went further, saying the results confirmed his diagnosis and treatment. (Only one student still has symptoms, he told The Buffalo News in June.) Mechtler said Erin Brockovich, the activist who raised the possibility of toxic effects from a train derailment in the township or other causes, should “now go on national TV and take back her dramatic speculation about environmental toxins being the root cause of the disorders,” according to the newspaper.

Brockovich was brought in by some of the parents who scoffed at the conversion disorder diagnosis, which has its origins in the late 19th century Freudian concept of “hysteria,” in which patients, most often young women, supposedly convert mental trauma into physical symptoms. When that happens to several members of a group at once, it is called mass hysteria, or in modern parlance, a mass psychogenic event. (Based on research for our 2010 book, “The Age of Autism,” we believe the illness doesn’t really exist. See “The Crazy History of Conversion Disorder.”)

Conversion disorder is often described as a diagnosis of exclusion, in which physical causes are methodically ruled out first. Strikingly, Tundra, the pesticide sprayed on the field, has been shown to cause symptoms in animals that parallel those suffered by the girls, who in addition to tics had trouble walking and standing and suffered breathing problems, strange sensations, seizures and blackouts.

Bifenthrin, the active chemical in the pesticide, was banned in Europe until last week because of safety concerns.

When fed to rats at high doses, symptoms included “tremors, clonic convulsions, twitching, incoordination, staggered gait, splayed hind limbs, atypical posture,” according to a Technical Fact Sheet from the National Pesticide Information Center.

Bifenthrin and other high-tech pesticides have been cited as possible culprits in the collapse of bee colonies around the country. In a well-known study, a California researcher found that flea-killing pet shampoos containing pyrethrins – the class of chemicals to which bifenthrin belongs – might be linked to a risk of autism when handled by pregnant mothers.

None of that means the crop-dusting on September 22 caused any of the tic disorders, and federal regulators and the chemicals’ manufacturer say it is much safer than earlier generations of pesticides such as DDT. But the incident points to a very active pesticide-application program at the same time and place as the tic outbreak, and raises questions about why current pesticides—which are designed to disrupt the chemical and neurological functions of living things — were not considered.

The LeRoy schools’ own report in January seemed to acknowledge the possibility of contamination from adjacent property. It noted that New York State has adopted a Neighbor Notification under which counties can require pesticide users to inform neighboring landowners in advance.

“To date, Genesee County has not adopted a local law to comply with the Neighbor Notification Law,” the school’s report says. “Accordingly, school neighbors are not required to notify the school of any pesticides being used.”

Leader Professional Services tested for DDT, which was banned in the United States in 1972. Small amounts of DDT and its breakdown product, DDE, were detected on two soccer fields at the school, Leader reported, as was another banned pesticide.

“Pesticides were found in the samples taken,” Leader reported, “but such pesticides are no longer in use in the United States as such use has been prohibited. … The levels of same were significantly below the residential use criteria; such detections were not unexpected given the likely previous use of the JHSH site for agricultural purposes.”

In LeRoy, several of the girls whose families rejected the conversion disorder diagnosis obtained independent medical diagnoses that included a post-strep nervous system infection called PANDAS, as well as Lyme Disease. The New Jersey doctor who made several of those diagnoses, Rosario Trifiletti, examined the girls without charge; he said that such infectionsß did not rule out a possible environmental co-factor. One could exacerbate the other and lead to a new clinical syndrome, Trifiletti said.
http://www.ageofautism.com/2012/07/tics-and-toxins-new-evidence-raises-pesticide-concerns-in-new-york-state-outbreak.html

I still see farmers spray within metres of their own houses. I came home from work one day. Got out of my car and picked dome loquats from my tree which is outside my fence on crown land. Busily munching loquats I walked into the yard and entered through the back door being closest to where I parked. Of course I checked what you buggers were saying about me while still munching loquats. Later, I walked out to set some hoses running. and in the process came to the front door where I noticed a bit of paper shoved in the screen door. It could easily have blown away in the wind. The note was from the Dept. of Ag.. now known as primary industry.. blah.
The note read; We have sprayed your loquat tree with Fenthion. Do not touch the tree for xxx days.


funny enough it was mark purdy’s theory that it was the organophosphate pesticide poured onto cows spines and heads that caused BSE. he made a documentary about it, his assertions were seemingly proven by some dude in cambridge that showed that the stuff increased the numbers of prions in the blood stream – that coupled with manganese licks lleads to an imbalance in copper to manganese in the blood stream leading to BSE.

a few fellahs helping purdey had “accidents” and purdey himself was killed by brain cancer

you don’t too much of purdeys theory of BSE anymore do you – kill the enquirer – kill the problem

its an old trick in britain, you just have an accident or die of cancer or something else

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:09:50
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286659
Subject: re: LeRoy

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

neomyrtus_ said:

work of mossad

as far as i’m aware the pesticide industry isn’t too far removed from the chemical warfare industry

the way that chemical warfare is administered effectively is based on how it is sprayed, if you start getting really interested in how to spray chemicals you get flagged

as you’ve decided to get mossad involved, the bedouins of southern palestine were accusing the israelis of spraying their crops with chemicals – kill the crops, get rid of the bedouin because they have no money to survive there – they move on. paradoxically the bedouins and the paleastinians are most likely the real jews – the others are simply people who took up the religion years later and then stormed back into the land. the jews that stayed most likely took up islam – THE lost of israel never left israel, they are still there.

it wasn’t too long ago that the israelis were caught red handed robbing the corpses of the trophy kills of the IDF snipers to use for body parts.

sheesh!


yeah i tend to remember these things when they pop up briefly due to the heinous nature of the crime.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:13:17
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286660
Subject: re: LeRoy

On seven occasions, over a period of two years, the Israeli government has sent planes to the Negev to spray the crops of Bedouin farmers with toxic chemicals. Some 7,500 acres of Bedouin fields have been destroyed since February 2002. The last such incident occurred as recently as March 2004, at Qtamat and Abeida villages, ruining some 750 acres of crops shortly before the harvest. Today, the Arab Association for Human Rights (HRA) publishes “By All Means Possible: Destruction by the State of Crops of Bedouin Citizens in the Naqab (Negev) by Aerial Spraying with Chemicals”, the first detailed report into the crop destruction, investigating both the legality of the government’s actions and the dangers posed to the local inhabitants’ health. The report also challenges the government’s arguments that it needs to use these drastic methods to evict the Bedouin farmers from lands it claims as state owned. The HRA argues instead that the government is in an unresolved legal dispute with the Bedouin over land ownership and that the state is trying to bypass proper legal channels by inflicting physical and financial damage on the Bedouin communities to force them to leave.
http://electronicintifada.net/content/israels-poisonous-aerial-spraying-negev-crops-illegal-endangers-health-bedouin-villagers/385

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:13:20
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 286661
Subject: re: LeRoy

you need to copy and paste more solid, lengthy blocks of unparagraphed and unpunctuated text in your posts, Wookie.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:13:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 286662
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:

– kill the enquirer – kill the problem

its an old trick in britain, you just have an accident or die of cancer or something else

cherry picking works with you.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:14:47
From: Rule 303
ID: 286663
Subject: re: LeRoy

I saw a doco on Foxtel about this tonight. Interesting stuff.

It’s a bad thing to admit, I know, but I can’t bring myself to view the ticks sympathetically. I have a strong sense that, as much as they might indicate some form of psychological distress, the sufferers are banging it on.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:14:54
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286664
Subject: re: LeRoy

ILA admits using banned chemicals to spray Bedouin crops

The Israel Lands Administration has been spraying fields cultivated by Bedouin farmers in the Negev with chemicals that have not been approved by the Agriculture Ministry and have been banned for use in aerial spraying.

Last week, a senior ILA official submitted an affidavit to that effect to the Supreme Court of Justice, which is currently discussing a petition filed by Bedouin farmers against the ILA’s crop-spraying policy in the Negev. The ILA claims that its policy is designed to counter the phenomenon of illegal occupation of state-owned land by Bedouin.
http://www.haaretz.com/print-edition/news/ila-admits-using-banned-chemicals-to-spray-bedouin-crops-1.150446

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:15:26
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286666
Subject: re: LeRoy

neomyrtus_ said:


you need to copy and paste more solid, lengthy blocks of unparagraphed and unpunctuated text in your posts, Wookie.

you don’t read what you don’t want to see so why are you bothered?

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:15:59
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286667
Subject: re: LeRoy

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:
– kill the enquirer – kill the problem

its an old trick in britain, you just have an accident or die of cancer or something else

cherry picking works with you.


you don’t hear too much about princess diana these days – do you?

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:16:50
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286668
Subject: re: LeRoy

Rule 303 said:


I saw a doco on Foxtel about this tonight. Interesting stuff.

It’s a bad thing to admit, I know, but I can’t bring myself to view the ticks sympathetically. I have a strong sense that, as much as they might indicate some form of psychological distress, the sufferers are banging it on.


yes, its possible

when i saw it the first thing i thought was insect bites or chemical warfare by other means

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:19:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 286671
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:
– kill the enquirer – kill the problem

its an old trick in britain, you just have an accident or die of cancer or something else

cherry picking works with you.


you don’t hear too much about princess diana these days – do you?

Not that she ever left my brainspace.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:27:03
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286677
Subject: re: LeRoy

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

cherry picking works with you.


you don’t hear too much about princess diana these days – do you?

Not that she ever left my brainspace.


you can google “the marconi scientists” if you want to get some textbook killings
they were killing members of CND years ago
its not just the british that do it – they are all at it
the russinas had rigged up some towerblock in russia somewhere – the residents found the explosives and called the police who in turn called the secret police – Litvinenko was invloved in investigating this. it wasn’t too long before another towerblock was rigged with explosives and it took out the building – i think chechens were blamed?? anyway it then paved the way with getting serious with terrorists. the problem was the explosives used were russian military explosives and litvinenko put forward the theory that the FSB were involved with doing this.

he then fled russia and was killed with polonium 210 by ingesting it (dr karl says this can’t happen but it can happen – its one of the few things that dr karl has got wrong).

the fellah who has been killed recently in england was accused of doing it as he had “tea” with him. my thoughts are that the KGB just bumped him off to silence his involvement.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:28:23
From: Rule 303
ID: 286678
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:

when i saw it the first thing i thought was insect bites or chemical warfare by other means

See, the first thing I thought was ‘It’s fucken amazing how these things seem to strike neurotic teenage girls and nobody else – They must be unusually sensitive to all kinds of things’.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:29:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 286679
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

you don’t hear too much about princess diana these days – do you?

Not that she ever left my brainspace.


you can google “the marconi scientists” if you want to get some textbook killings
they were killing members of CND years ago
its not just the british that do it – they are all at it
the russinas had rigged up some towerblock in russia somewhere – the residents found the explosives and called the police who in turn called the secret police – Litvinenko was invloved in investigating this. it wasn’t too long before another towerblock was rigged with explosives and it took out the building – i think chechens were blamed?? anyway it then paved the way with getting serious with terrorists. the problem was the explosives used were russian military explosives and litvinenko put forward the theory that the FSB were involved with doing this.

he then fled russia and was killed with polonium 210 by ingesting it (dr karl says this can’t happen but it can happen – its one of the few things that dr karl has got wrong).

the fellah who has been killed recently in england was accused of doing it as he had “tea” with him. my thoughts are that the KGB just bumped him off to silence his involvement.

Not quite sure how we ended up here.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:29:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 286680
Subject: re: LeRoy

Rule 303 said:


wookiemeister said:
when i saw it the first thing i thought was insect bites or chemical warfare by other means

See, the first thing I thought was ‘It’s fucken amazing how these things seem to strike neurotic teenage girls and nobody else – They must be unusually sensitive to all kinds of things’.

Teenage girls catch everything from boyfriends.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:34:48
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286683
Subject: re: LeRoy

Rule 303 said:


wookiemeister said:
when i saw it the first thing i thought was insect bites or chemical warfare by other means

See, the first thing I thought was ‘It’s fucken amazing how these things seem to strike neurotic teenage girls and nobody else – They must be unusually sensitive to all kinds of things’.


yeah i thought that too

but for what ever reason females might be susceptible to it or they happened to be out there when it was sprayed

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:34:48
From: party_pants
ID: 286684
Subject: re: LeRoy

Who decided to build the school right there?

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:35:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 286685
Subject: re: LeRoy

party_pants said:


Who decided to build the school right there?

  • shakes head*

I’m lost for words.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:37:05
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286686
Subject: re: LeRoy

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Not that she ever left my brainspace.


you can google “the marconi scientists” if you want to get some textbook killings
they were killing members of CND years ago
its not just the british that do it – they are all at it
the russinas had rigged up some towerblock in russia somewhere – the residents found the explosives and called the police who in turn called the secret police – Litvinenko was invloved in investigating this. it wasn’t too long before another towerblock was rigged with explosives and it took out the building – i think chechens were blamed?? anyway it then paved the way with getting serious with terrorists. the problem was the explosives used were russian military explosives and litvinenko put forward the theory that the FSB were involved with doing this.

he then fled russia and was killed with polonium 210 by ingesting it (dr karl says this can’t happen but it can happen – its one of the few things that dr karl has got wrong).

the fellah who has been killed recently in england was accused of doing it as he had “tea” with him. my thoughts are that the KGB just bumped him off to silence his involvement.

Not quite sure how we ended up here.


its neo getting all shitty that her mates get up to all kinds of shit

what she’s doing now is discrediting anything i say – its an old trick i’m afarid

when i see her pull the old mossad trick i just dig up some related shit that she won’t want to read about crimes etc and she seems to go away

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:38:24
From: roughbarked
ID: 286687
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

you can google “the marconi scientists” if you want to get some textbook killings
they were killing members of CND years ago
its not just the british that do it – they are all at it
the russinas had rigged up some towerblock in russia somewhere – the residents found the explosives and called the police who in turn called the secret police – Litvinenko was invloved in investigating this. it wasn’t too long before another towerblock was rigged with explosives and it took out the building – i think chechens were blamed?? anyway it then paved the way with getting serious with terrorists. the problem was the explosives used were russian military explosives and litvinenko put forward the theory that the FSB were involved with doing this.

he then fled russia and was killed with polonium 210 by ingesting it (dr karl says this can’t happen but it can happen – its one of the few things that dr karl has got wrong).

the fellah who has been killed recently in england was accused of doing it as he had “tea” with him. my thoughts are that the KGB just bumped him off to silence his involvement.

Not quite sure how we ended up here.


its neo getting all shitty that her mates get up to all kinds of shit

what she’s doing now is discrediting anything i say – its an old trick i’m afarid

when i see her pull the old mossad trick i just dig up some related shit that she won’t want to read about crimes etc and she seems to go away

I claim neutrality.

no nukes here.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:39:31
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286689
Subject: re: LeRoy

Berezovsky used to be good mates with putin at one point

in think thats the problem with dictators they don’t remember many favours paid to them when they were on their way up

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:41:06
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286691
Subject: re: LeRoy

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Not quite sure how we ended up here.


its neo getting all shitty that her mates get up to all kinds of shit

what she’s doing now is discrediting anything i say – its an old trick i’m afarid

when i see her pull the old mossad trick i just dig up some related shit that she won’t want to read about crimes etc and she seems to go away

I claim neutrality.

no nukes here.


well it seems to shut her up anyway

once you’ve come up with a platter of inconvenient facts they go two ways

they just whither away and behave themselves

or they go hardcore and will shout you down even if you were discussing old coins

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:41:23
From: esselte
ID: 286692
Subject: re: LeRoy

I don’t understand this thread topic.

Wookiemeister, are you saying that there are people intentionally poisoning school children in the USA?

Are you pointing out that the delivery of pesticides can have unfortunate, unintended consequences which might be unacceptable in a risk/reward scenario?

Are you suggesting intentional sabotage of crops?

There’s lots to discuss here, but what is the actual point you are trying to make in this thread?

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:41:30
From: roughbarked
ID: 286693
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


Berezovsky used to be good mates with putin at one point

in think thats the problem with dictators they don’t remember many favours paid to them when they were on their way up

Which is why most of them end their reign by being buried.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:43:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 286695
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

its neo getting all shitty that her mates get up to all kinds of shit

what she’s doing now is discrediting anything i say – its an old trick i’m afarid

when i see her pull the old mossad trick i just dig up some related shit that she won’t want to read about crimes etc and she seems to go away

I claim neutrality.

no nukes here.


well it seems to shut her up anyway

once you’ve come up with a platter of inconvenient facts they go two ways

they just whither away and behave themselves

or they go hardcore and will shout you down even if you were discussing old coins

hate to say it to you but tell it to someone who cares..

Neo hardly notices me anyway and you only do when nobody else is about. ;) I’m a mere minority.
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Date: 25/03/2013 23:44:46
From: roughbarked
ID: 286696
Subject: re: LeRoy

esselte said:


I don’t understand this thread topic.

Wookiemeister, are you saying that there are people intentionally poisoning school children in the USA?

Are you pointing out that the delivery of pesticides can have unfortunate, unintended consequences which might be unacceptable in a risk/reward scenario?

Are you suggesting intentional sabotage of crops?

There’s lots to discuss here, but what is the actual point you are trying to make in this thread?

bugger. I was doing m best to distract him from it.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:45:10
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286697
Subject: re: LeRoy

esselte said:


I don’t understand this thread topic.

Wookiemeister, are you saying that there are people intentionally poisoning school children in the USA?

Are you pointing out that the delivery of pesticides can have unfortunate, unintended consequences which might be unacceptable in a risk/reward scenario?

Are you suggesting intentional sabotage of crops?

There’s lots to discuss here, but what is the actual point you are trying to make in this thread?


Are you pointing out that the delivery of pesticides can have unfortunate, unintended consequences which might be unacceptable in a risk/reward scenario?

this one

i’m not advocating a conspiracy , i’m pointing out that there is an alternative view point out there NOT explored by the programme about LeRoy tonight

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:46:35
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286699
Subject: re: LeRoy

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

I claim neutrality.

no nukes here.


well it seems to shut her up anyway

once you’ve come up with a platter of inconvenient facts they go two ways

they just whither away and behave themselves

or they go hardcore and will shout you down even if you were discussing old coins

hate to say it to you but tell it to someone who cares..

Neo hardly notices me anyway and you only do when nobody else is about. ;) I’m a mere minority.
i’m not worried about it

if i see her pop up and get up to mischief i just bring up some shitty fact that sends her away

its a game

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:50:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 286701
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

well it seems to shut her up anyway

once you’ve come up with a platter of inconvenient facts they go two ways

they just whither away and behave themselves

or they go hardcore and will shout you down even if you were discussing old coins

hate to say it to you but tell it to someone who cares..

Neo hardly notices me anyway and you only do when nobody else is about. ;) I’m a mere minority.
i’m not worried about it

if i see her pop up and get up to mischief i just bring up some shitty fact that sends her away

its a game

OK. Just remember that it is your game. ;)

I’m a minority on the mischief as well. Though I’ll not speak without a lawyer present. ;)

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:55:36
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286702
Subject: re: LeRoy

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

hate to say it to you but tell it to someone who cares..

Neo hardly notices me anyway and you only do when nobody else is about. ;) I’m a mere minority.
i’m not worried about it

if i see her pop up and get up to mischief i just bring up some shitty fact that sends her away

its a game

OK. Just remember that it is your game. ;)

I’m a minority on the mischief as well. Though I’ll not speak without a lawyer present. ;)


its not my game, occasionally i play it at a time and place of my choosing

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:58:15
From: esselte
ID: 286705
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


esselte said:

I don’t understand this thread topic.

Wookiemeister, are you saying that there are people intentionally poisoning school children in the USA?

Are you pointing out that the delivery of pesticides can have unfortunate, unintended consequences which might be unacceptable in a risk/reward scenario?

Are you suggesting intentional sabotage of crops?

There’s lots to discuss here, but what is the actual point you are trying to make in this thread?


Are you pointing out that the delivery of pesticides can have unfortunate, unintended consequences which might be unacceptable in a risk/reward scenario?

this one

i’m not advocating a conspiracy , i’m pointing out that there is an alternative view point out there NOT explored by the programme about LeRoy tonight

Do you mean a TV programme?

nb: I can’t follow links which aren’t clickable, using this iPad. The copy/paste function is totally Glowormed, so I haven’t checked out the URL you quoted in the OP.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:58:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 286707
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

i’m not worried about it

if i see her pop up and get up to mischief i just bring up some shitty fact that sends her away

its a game

OK. Just remember that it is your game. ;)

I’m a minority on the mischief as well. Though I’ll not speak without a lawyer present. ;)


its not my game, occasionally i play it at a time and place of my choosing

As the kidz of today say.. whatever.. which could probably already been to WTVR if i wasn’t for all the acronyms.

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Date: 25/03/2013 23:59:38
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286709
Subject: re: LeRoy

esselte said:


wookiemeister said:

esselte said:

I don’t understand this thread topic.

Wookiemeister, are you saying that there are people intentionally poisoning school children in the USA?

Are you pointing out that the delivery of pesticides can have unfortunate, unintended consequences which might be unacceptable in a risk/reward scenario?

Are you suggesting intentional sabotage of crops?

There’s lots to discuss here, but what is the actual point you are trying to make in this thread?


Are you pointing out that the delivery of pesticides can have unfortunate, unintended consequences which might be unacceptable in a risk/reward scenario?

this one

i’m not advocating a conspiracy , i’m pointing out that there is an alternative view point out there NOT explored by the programme about LeRoy tonight

Do you mean a TV programme?

nb: I can’t follow links which aren’t clickable, using this iPad. The copy/paste function is totally Glowormed, so I haven’t checked out the URL you quoted in the OP.


yeah it was a tv programme

google Leroy nervous tics and you should get an idea of what it was about

the programme didn’t mention the possibility of pesticides though

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Date: 26/03/2013 00:03:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 286711
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:

the programme didn’t mention the possibility of pesticides though

but you thought you’d bring it up anyway?

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Date: 26/03/2013 00:04:14
From: wookiemeister
ID: 286712
Subject: re: LeRoy

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

the programme didn’t mention the possibility of pesticides though

but you thought you’d bring it up anyway?


why not?

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Date: 26/03/2013 00:05:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 286713
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

the programme didn’t mention the possibility of pesticides though

but you thought you’d bring it up anyway?


why not?

no reisling

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Date: 26/03/2013 07:01:11
From: buffy
ID: 286782
Subject: re: LeRoy

>>agricultural pests called earworms.<<

So…..bits of music that stick in your brain for days are now an agricultural pest?

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Date: 26/03/2013 09:33:41
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 286819
Subject: re: LeRoy

buffy said:

>>agricultural pests called earworms.<<

So…..bits of music that stick in your brain for days are now an agricultural pest?

mossad method of delivery of poisons through earworms.

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Date: 26/03/2013 13:12:54
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 286871
Subject: re: LeRoy

wookiemeister said:


you don’t read what you don’t want to see so why are you bothered?

In Wookie World MI6 kills people using mind control. Primarily by making people choose to not wear their seatbelts.

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