tis the season for a lazy stroll through your local state/national park
this one is Para Wirra and is an old gold digging area on the south para river near gawler

I love that country around there.

buffy said:

I love that country around there.

it’s smaller than the gramps but is similar looking – sort of….

I like the Flinders Ranges as a place. It is not unlike Gariwerd (the Grampians), although we are generally not as dry over here.

buffy said:

I like the Flinders Ranges as a place. It is not unlike Gariwerd (the Grampians), although we are generally not as dry over here.

I like anywhere with hills.
Have seen too much of where god practiced laser leveling.

buffy said:

I like the Flinders Ranges as a place. It is not unlike Gariwerd (the Grampians), although we are generally not as dry over here.

the flinders are a bit dry – best to go in spring when there’s still some moisture around.
the gramps have got a watery fern walk – silver fern? silverback? beautiful walk with water and hills.

so – now we have the competition

who’s scat is this?

wait – warning – the next entry under this tread will have a picture of a scat (turd) of an Australian native fauna- thing
please look away now if you don’t want to look

it’s as informative as a footprint – it’s a scat – who done it?

You know, I have a book for IDing those…

;)

justin said:

it’s as informative as a footprint – it’s a scat – who done it?

Wombat. :)

justin said:

it’s as informative as a footprint – it’s a scat – who done it?

wombat?

Happy Potter said:

justin said:

it’s as informative as a footprint – it’s a scat – who done it?

Wombat. :)

nice try – but not wombat

bluegreen said:

justin said:

it’s as informative as a footprint – it’s a scat – who done it?

wombat?

wat’s wif the wombats – nice try – second guesses are allowed

deer?

Kangaroo?

bluegreen said:

deer?

not native – altho’ they are feral – sorry

Happy Potter said:

Kangaroo?

no – you’re going to need a hint
- I shan’t be awake long enuff to cover the entire indigenous fauna.lol.

- it’s the other half of the national emblem

justin said:

Happy Potter said:

Kangaroo?

no – you’re going to need a hint
- I shan’t be awake long enuff to cover the entire indigenous fauna.lol.

- it’s the other half of the national emblem

emu

Except for the seeds in it, it’s not like the emu scats at our bush block. Ours drop great sloppy cowpatty type things.

bluegreen said:

justin said:

Happy Potter said:

Kangaroo?

no – you’re going to need a hint
- I shan’t be awake long enuff to cover the entire indigenous fauna.lol.

- it’s the other half of the national emblem

emu

spot on
so now you know and I expect this knowledge might save our lives one day – or not -

buffy said:

Except for the seeds in it, it’s not like the emu scats at our bush block. Ours drop great sloppy cowpatty type things.

too much water in their diets I suspect – the specimens pictured were not fresh either.

justin said:

buffy said:

Except for the seeds in it, it’s not like the emu scats at our bush block. Ours drop great sloppy cowpatty type things.

too much water in their diets I suspect – the specimens pictured were not fresh either.

looks like I missed out but on first glance my comment was, constipated emu.

roughbarked said:

justin said:

buffy said:

Except for the seeds in it, it’s not like the emu scats at our bush block. Ours drop great sloppy cowpatty type things.

too much water in their diets I suspect – the specimens pictured were not fresh either.

looks like I missed out but on first glance my comment was, constipated emu.

do emus’ guts work different to other birds like chooks? I would not have recognised it as bird poo.

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

justin said:

too much water in their diets I suspect – the specimens pictured were not fresh either.

looks like I missed out but on first glance my comment was, constipated emu.

do emus’ guts work different to other birds like chooks? I would not have recognised it as bird poo.

Similar but different: An emu’s digestive system comprises an oesophagus, proventriculus, gizzard, a small intestine (duodenum, jejunum and ileum), caeca, rectum and cloaca. In this respect they are similar to poultry with the exception that they have no distinct crop. The proventriculus, however, is quite distensible and possibly could serve as an organ for food storage. Relative to its liveweight, the length of an emu’s digestive tract is approximately 10 times less than that of domestic fowl.

The time taken for food to pass through the digestive tract is variable, depending in part on the item ingested. Plant particulate matter will take an average of five to six hours, intact wheat grains from less than a day up to two days. Glass marbles have been observed to be retained for 100 days. It would be expected that large particles of insoluble grit would be retained for a period in the gizzard and be effective in aiding the physical maceration of food.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

looks like I missed out but on first glance my comment was, constipated emu.

do emus’ guts work different to other birds like chooks? I would not have recognised it as bird poo.

Similar but different: An emu’s digestive system comprises an oesophagus, proventriculus, gizzard, a small intestine (duodenum, jejunum and ileum), caeca, rectum and cloaca. In this respect they are similar to poultry with the exception that they have no distinct crop. The proventriculus, however, is quite distensible and possibly could serve as an organ for food storage. Relative to its liveweight, the length of an emu’s digestive tract is approximately 10 times less than that of domestic fowl.

The time taken for food to pass through the digestive tract is variable, depending in part on the item ingested. Plant particulate matter will take an average of five to six hours, intact wheat grains from less than a day up to two days. Glass marbles have been observed to be retained for 100 days. It would be expected that large particles of insoluble grit would be retained for a period in the gizzard and be effective in aiding the physical maceration of food.

are the urates solid and get eliminated with the fecal matter like other birds? There did not seem any evidence of urates in those scats, although that may be because they were old.

roughbarked said:

justin said:

buffy said:

Except for the seeds in it, it’s not like the emu scats at our bush block. Ours drop great sloppy cowpatty type things.

too much water in their diets I suspect – the specimens pictured were not fresh either.

looks like I missed out but on first glance my comment was, constipated emu.

the emus here are ringins and this is not their natural habitat. they are out your way tho’ – and has the bush there got razorback pigs?

We don’t have pigs (that I know of). We do have deer. Some people thought it a good idea to release deer for hunting…….

Yes, our emus are local and belong. I like seeing Dad and his chicks around.

justin said:

roughbarked said:

justin said:

too much water in their diets I suspect – the specimens pictured were not fresh either.

looks like I missed out but on first glance my comment was, constipated emu.

the emus here are ringins and this is not their natural habitat. they are out your way tho’ – and has the bush there got razorback pigs?

The bush here has razorbacks .. yes. But only in wetter areas.

We have feral piggies here but I don’t know what type…I know down Charleville way about 30 years ago, one feral piggie chased P straight up a river bank…P does not know how he moved so fast…

They (piggies) are very bad at Carnarvon Gorge…I do think it would be a kindness all round to exterminate feral piggies…

Interesting discussion on the “scat”…I’ve never bothered to ID poop in the bush and would have gone for Wombat…the seeds in the photo look like fruit seeds?

Kangaroo poop looks like sheep droppings…probably just as useful for the garden as well…

Dinetta said:

We have feral piggies here but I don’t know what type…I know down Charleville way about 30 years ago, one feral piggie chased P straight up a river bank…P does not know how he moved so fast…

They (piggies) are very bad at Carnarvon Gorge…I do think it would be a kindness all round to exterminate feral piggies…

Interesting discussion on the “scat”…I’ve never bothered to ID poop in the bush and would have gone for Wombat…the seeds in the photo look like fruit seeds?

Kangaroo poop looks like sheep droppings…probably just as useful for the garden as well…

Kangaroo poop is bigger berries than sheep droppings.. The seeds in the emu pat are Eremophila (possibly longifolia).

Dinetta said:

We have feral piggies here but I don’t know what type…I know down Charleville way about 30 years ago, one feral piggie chased P straight up a river bank…P does not know how he moved so fast…

They (piggies) are very bad at Carnarvon Gorge…I do think it would be a kindness all round to exterminate feral piggies…

A memory I have of feral pigs is from my childhood days when our family embarked on a camping trip up north. We were driving along a dirt road through a National Park (wonder if it was Carnarvon Gorge? I know that was one place we visited.) Anyway, we came across an empty vehicle on the side of the road with a caged trailer attached, and stopped to see what was going on. Off the road in the scrub we could hear all sorts of squealing and crashing noises. Before long some men appeared, one with an adult pig over his shoulders, one with an armful of piglets, and another that was chasing a piglet that had escaped which he tripped up and caught again. Apparently you were not allowed firearms in the park, but you were allowed to remove any feral pigs you could catch!

roughbarked said:

The seeds in the emu pat are Eremophila (possibly longifolia).

Too hard to get ground up in the gizzard?

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

The seeds in the emu pat are Eremophila (possibly longifolia).

Too hard to get ground up in the gizzard?

he only digestible part is the thin skin of the fruit.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

The seeds in the emu pat are Eremophila (possibly longifolia).

Too hard to get ground up in the gizzard?

he only digestible part is the thin skin of the fruit.

T for the.

The fruit skin may not even be digestible, if not enough stones are in the gizzard. Many Eremophila fruits pass undigested. Many simply pass as the seed capsules with fruit digested. Some say that this aids in the germination of seeds, which it does but more probably due to the presence of the pat = mulch and water sponge + fertiliser..

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

Too hard to get ground up in the gizzard?

he only digestible part is the thin skin of the fruit.

T for the.

The fruit skin may not even be digestible, if not enough stones are in the gizzard. Many Eremophila fruits pass undigested. Many simply pass as the seed capsules with fruit digested. Some say that this aids in the germination of seeds, which it does but more probably due to the presence of the pat = mulch and water sponge + fertiliser..

Hence, many Eremophila bear the common name of Emu-Bush.

roughbarked said:

Kangaroo poop is bigger berries than sheep droppings.. The seeds in the emu pat are Eremophila (possibly longifolia).

…yes but they still look similar…dry pellets…

bluegreen said:

Apparently you were not allowed firearms in the park, but you were allowed to remove any feral pigs you could catch!

I think there are licensed hunters now, I know there is for Blackdown Tableland…not sure of the legal ins and outs but I think “needs must” has driven the licensing…

Dinetta said:

bluegreen said:

Apparently you were not allowed firearms in the park, but you were allowed to remove any feral pigs you could catch!

I think there are licensed hunters now, I know there is for Blackdown Tableland…not sure of the legal ins and outs but I think “needs must” has driven the licensing…

no.

needs are by political pressure from lobby group.

The seeds in our emu pats are usually sedges. I’ve been told to collect the pats and plant them. I haven’t got around to doing that yet, but I will, now I’ve got some native grasses started in the front yard here.

buffy said:

The seeds in our emu pats are usually sedges. I’ve been told to collect the pats and plant them. I haven’t got around to doing that yet, but I will, now I’ve got some native grasses started in the front yard here.

sedges aren’t grasses.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

he only digestible part is the thin skin of the fruit.

T for the.

The fruit skin may not even be digestible, if not enough stones are in the gizzard. Many Eremophila fruits pass undigested. Many simply pass as the seed capsules with fruit digested. Some say that this aids in the germination of seeds, which it does but more probably due to the presence of the pat = mulch and water sponge + fertiliser..

Hence, many Eremophila bear the common name of Emu-Bush.

impressive discussion on scats there – also on bird digestive tracts – wonderful.(… and I’ve finished tea as it happens)
as to razorbacks – I saw them on the Murrumbidgee – big beasts – and indigenous I think?
are they vegetarians or not?

>>sedges aren’t grasses.<<

No. I didn’t say they were. I said I had some native grasses going now. I would like to get some other stuff going too.

Pigs of whatever sort are introduced animals.

buffy said:

Pigs of whatever sort are introduced animals.

ok – probably not vego either
when I see then in the wild they look as tho’ they’ve been there forever.

justin said:

buffy said:

Pigs of whatever sort are introduced animals.

ok – probably not vego either
when I see then in the wild they look as tho’ they’ve been there forever.

Pigs are omnivorous.. show it to them.. they’ll eat it.

Sprinkle some blood on your leg, they’ll think it is a hot dog with sauce.

roughbarked said:

justin said:

buffy said:

Pigs of whatever sort are introduced animals.

ok – probably not vego either
when I see then in the wild they look as tho’ they’ve been there forever.

Pigs are omnivorous.. show it to them.. they’ll eat it.

Sprinkle some blood on your leg, they’ll think it is a hot dog with sauce.

ok – no blood sprinkling around pigs then.
deer, pigs, camels and goats – we have done a good job of introducing ferals.

justin said:

deer, pigs, camels and goats – we have done a good job of introducing ferals.

You forgot foxes, rabbits and hares…ON the other hand we have introduced opossums to New Zealand…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

deer, pigs, camels and goats – we have done a good job of introducing ferals.

You forgot foxes, rabbits and hares…ON the other hand we have introduced opossums to New Zealand…

No. The Australian Brush-Tail Possum was introduced to New Zealand in 1837 for the fur trade but the Opossums still live in the Americas.

justin said:

roughbarked said:

justin said:

ok – probably not vego either
when I see then in the wild they look as tho’ they’ve been there forever.

Pigs are omnivorous.. show it to them.. they’ll eat it.

Sprinkle some blood on your leg, they’ll think it is a hot dog with sauce.

ok – no blood sprinkling around pigs then.
deer, pigs, camels and goats – we have done a good job of introducing ferals.

My father told me of a man who accidently shot himself in the leg when entering a pig sty intending to shoot a pig. The pigs had his leg off before help could arrive.

If you are planning to get rid of a body by feeding it to the pigs, take the teeth out first because that’s the only part that the pig cannot eat or digest.

roughbarked said:

If you are planning to get rid of a body by feeding it to the pigs, take the teeth out first because that’s the only part that the pig cannot eat or digest.

I’ll keep that in mind :P

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

If you are planning to get rid of a body by feeding it to the pigs, take the teeth out first because that’s the only part that the pig cannot eat or digest.

I’ll keep that in mind :P

I’m sure.. ;)

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

justin said:

deer, pigs, camels and goats – we have done a good job of introducing ferals.

You forgot foxes, rabbits and hares…ON the other hand we have introduced opossums to New Zealand…

No. The Australian Brush-Tail Possum was introduced to New Zealand in 1837 for the fur trade but the Opossums still live in the Americas.

The things you find out on this forum…thanks for that, RoughBarked…

roughbarked said:

My father told me of a man who accidently shot himself in the leg when entering a pig sty intending to shoot a pig. The pigs had his leg off before help could arrive.

Pis 1, Human Destroyer 0

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

If you are planning to get rid of a body by feeding it to the pigs, take the teeth out first because that’s the only part that the pig cannot eat or digest.

I’ll keep that in mind :P

So will I…

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

If you are planning to get rid of a body by feeding it to the pigs, take the teeth out first because that’s the only part that the pig cannot eat or digest.

I’ll keep that in mind :P

hilarious

bushwalk #2 is a state park called Altona – about a 15 minute drive from home
its an old quarry and is much smaller than Para Wirra (bushwalk#1)
the North Para river passes through this park and the hills to the east are surrounding the Barossa valley
photo #3 show a green pool of water where the river flows in winter – the gums show the struggle for survival

Its very sandy soil here so casuarinas and native pines are the predominant trees – and the grass tree is seen in photo #1

justin said:

bushwalk #2 is a state park called Altona – about a 15 minute drive from home
its an old quarry and is much smaller than Para Wirra (bushwalk#1)
the North Para river passes through this park and the hills to the east are surrounding the Barossa valley

Good to see the bush being appreciated…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

bushwalk #2 is a state park called Altona – about a 15 minute drive from home
its an old quarry and is much smaller than Para Wirra (bushwalk#1)
the North Para river passes through this park and the hills to the east are surrounding the Barossa valley

Good to see the bush being appreciated…

there wouldn’t be many xanthorrhoea or callitris left if these parks didn’t save them.

justin said:

Dinetta said:

justin said:

bushwalk #2 is a state park called Altona – about a 15 minute drive from home
its an old quarry and is much smaller than Para Wirra (bushwalk#1)
the North Para river passes through this park and the hills to the east are surrounding the Barossa valley

Good to see the bush being appreciated…

there wouldn’t be many xanthorrhoea or callitris left if these parks didn’t save them.

There’s miles of them between Nebo and Mackay…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

Dinetta said:

Good to see the bush being appreciated…

there wouldn’t be many xanthorrhoea or callitris left if these parks didn’t save them.

There’s miles of them between Nebo and Mackay…

they are enjoying popularity now but they were fodder for bulldozers and sheep for 50 years after the war.
these little bits of remnant bush have conserved some big old examples.

justin said:

they are enjoying popularity now but they were fodder for bulldozers and sheep for 50 years after the war.
these little bits of remnant bush have conserved some big old examples.

Thank goodness for the remnants of bush…we have some here and they’re basically the size of a pocket handkerchief…not sure if they’ll support the diversity of fauna that used to exist…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

they are enjoying popularity now but they were fodder for bulldozers and sheep for 50 years after the war.
these little bits of remnant bush have conserved some big old examples.

Thank goodness for the remnants of bush…we have some here and they’re basically the size of a pocket handkerchief…not sure if they’ll support the diversity of fauna that used to exist…

I once did a survey of roadside remnant vegetation in the five western NSW shires of Carrathool(the biggest), Hay, Leeton, Murrumbidgee and Griffith City. Copies are still available.

It was noted that if one added up the National Parks in NSW they came to roughly 5% of the land area and coincidentally so did the roadsides. It is generally considered that these are the only remnants still surviving. The rest is farmlands and cities.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

justin said:

they are enjoying popularity now but they were fodder for bulldozers and sheep for 50 years after the war.
these little bits of remnant bush have conserved some big old examples.

Thank goodness for the remnants of bush…we have some here and they’re basically the size of a pocket handkerchief…not sure if they’ll support the diversity of fauna that used to exist…

I once did a survey of roadside remnant vegetation in the five western NSW shires of Carrathool(the biggest), Hay, Leeton, Murrumbidgee and Griffith City. Copies are still available.
It was noted that if one added up the National Parks in NSW they came to roughly 5% of the land area and coincidentally so did the roadsides. It is generally considered that these are the only remnants still surviving. The rest is farmlands and cities.

there are no xanthorrhoeas or callitris on the wheat farms around here that I can see – and the suburbs don’t have an original contour let alone an original bit of scrub.
it is changing tho’ – new native plantings around houses and in greenbelts are very impressive and display a high degree of skill in the way they have combined trees, bush and grassland in a maintainable landscape.
the kerbside vegetation is important but is out-of-control, head- height weed (often introduced veldt grasses) with fire danger attached. some of the best peppermint gums are along this roadside strip that the councils no longer maintain. I have a corner site and am being asked to maintain this 600mx 3m strip of land I don’t own – ggrrr! There are 3 e. odorata on it – so I shut up and mow but I don’t know for how long I can keep doing it.

justin said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Thank goodness for the remnants of bush…we have some here and they’re basically the size of a pocket handkerchief…not sure if they’ll support the diversity of fauna that used to exist…

I once did a survey of roadside remnant vegetation in the five western NSW shires of Carrathool(the biggest), Hay, Leeton, Murrumbidgee and Griffith City. Copies are still available.
It was noted that if one added up the National Parks in NSW they came to roughly 5% of the land area and coincidentally so did the roadsides. It is generally considered that these are the only remnants still surviving. The rest is farmlands and cities.

there are no xanthorrhoeas or callitris on the wheat farms around here that I can see – and the suburbs don’t have an original contour let alone an original bit of scrub.
it is changing tho’ – new native plantings around houses and in greenbelts are very impressive and display a high degree of skill in the way they have combined trees, bush and grassland in a maintainable landscape.
the kerbside vegetation is important but is out-of-control, head- height weed (often introduced veldt grasses) with fire danger attached. some of the best peppermint gums are along this roadside strip that the councils no longer maintain. I have a corner site and am being asked to maintain this 600mx 3m strip of land I don’t own – ggrrr! There are 3 e. odorata on it – so I shut up and mow but I don’t know for how long I can keep doing it.

Myself and many others have put a lot of our own resources into the knowledge behind native plantings. There should be others within your shire area willing to help you work with the local shire to maintain the remnant vegetation identity of your local area.

You’re right about the veldt grasses…on the way to the coast, the closer we get the more rat’s tail grass is on the verges…P says it’s almost ineradicable…

If I just dig up some little seedlings that I see on my walk, and plant them in my back yard, that’s OK isn’t it? The council couldn’t get stroppy about “unsightly herbage”?

Dinetta said:

If I just dig up some little seedlings that I see on my walk, and plant them in my back yard, that’s OK isn’t it? The council couldn’t get stroppy about “unsightly herbage”?

seedlings of?

Dinetta said:

If I just dig up some little seedlings that I see on my walk, and plant them in my back yard, that’s OK isn’t it? The council couldn’t get stroppy about “unsightly herbage”?

if you’re in a national park “take only photos and leave only footprints” .
that veldt grass can be sprayed and mowed but it appears again next year like D says.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

If I just dig up some little seedlings that I see on my walk, and plant them in my back yard, that’s OK isn’t it? The council couldn’t get stroppy about “unsightly herbage”?

seedlings of?

Local bauhinia, Leichhardt’s bean, and some I don’t know the name of but they were once part of the scrub here…

justin said:

Dinetta said:

If I just dig up some little seedlings that I see on my walk, and plant them in my back yard, that’s OK isn’t it? The council couldn’t get stroppy about “unsightly herbage”?

if you’re in a national park “take only photos and leave only footprints” .
that veldt grass can be sprayed and mowed but it appears again next year like D says.

The “little seedlings” are on the road verges, they are local scrub that’s been pulled and is trying to revegetate…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

Dinetta said:

If I just dig up some little seedlings that I see on my walk, and plant them in my back yard, that’s OK isn’t it? The council couldn’t get stroppy about “unsightly herbage”?

if you’re in a national park “take only photos and leave only footprints” .
that veldt grass can be sprayed and mowed but it appears again next year like D says.

The “little seedlings” are on the road verges, they are local scrub that’s been pulled and is trying to revegetate…

Technically, it is illegal for you but the others can do whatever they want with it.

roughbarked said:

Technically, it is illegal for you but the others can do whatever they want with it.

Welll pffftt to illegal…

sandy creek conservation park is one of the oldest in the state (started 1968)
it’s probably my favourite from 7 years ago but it is looking worse now.
the banksia trees were like huge gum trees but they are all sick, spindly and dying.
I guess the drought and the surrounding sand mines are destroying the park ?
western grey kangaroos and this little red hooded robin followed us on our walk

justin said:

sandy creek conservation park is one of the oldest in the state (started 1968)
it’s probably my favourite from 7 years ago but it is looking worse now.
the banksia trees were like huge gum trees but they are all sick, spindly and dying.
I guess the drought and the surrounding sand mines are destroying the park ?
western grey kangaroos and this little red hooded robin followed us on our walk

stress affected trees are weak and susceptible and increased traffic will bring phytophera.

roughbarked said:

justin said:

sandy creek conservation park is one of the oldest in the state (started 1968)
it’s probably my favourite from 7 years ago but it is looking worse now.
the banksia trees were like huge gum trees but they are all sick, spindly and dying.
I guess the drought and the surrounding sand mines are destroying the park ?
western grey kangaroos and this little red hooded robin followed us on our walk

stress affected trees are weak and susceptible and increased traffic will bring phytophera.

probably – the park is something like 150 hectares – and we walked for 3 hours to see only half the park – but the sand mining is noisy and incredibly destructive of the surrounding habitat.

this bit of sand mining is surrounded on three sides by the park. the loss of bird and animal habitat as well as vegetation is immense (total?)

these are the blue hills of the Barossa valley visible from the ridge line in the park.

justin said:

…and this little red hooded robin followed us on our walk

sweet :D

with the sand mining all but surrounding the park, essential corridors for the movement of birds and animals have also been lost. So sad that mining has been allowed so close :(

bluegreen said:

justin said:

…and this little red hooded robin followed us on our walk

sweet :D

track back up the dead branch the robin is on, to see the faces.

bluegreen said:

with the sand mining all but surrounding the park, essential corridors for the movement of birds and animals have also been lost. So sad that mining has been allowed so close :(

Mining thinks it can just move the ecology over there and dig up what’s underneath.

bluegreen said:

with the sand mining all but surrounding the park, essential corridors for the movement of birds and animals have also been lost. So sad that mining has been allowed so close :(

that would be part of the problem – the farmer on the west/south side seems to be leaving some good established old bush as a corridor – I think?

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

justin said:

…and this little red hooded robin followed us on our walk

sweet :D

track back up the dead branch the robin is on, to see the faces.

the owl, dog and gnome?

justin said:

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

sweet :D

track back up the dead branch the robin is on, to see the faces.

the owl, dog and gnome?

Whichever faces you see.. you admit they are there.

justin said:

sandy creek conservation park is one of the oldest in the state (started 1968)
it’s probably my favourite from 7 years ago but it is looking worse now.
the banksia trees were like huge gum trees but they are all sick, spindly and dying.
I guess the drought and the surrounding sand mines are destroying the park ?
western grey kangaroos and this little red hooded robin followed us on our walk

Awww love the birdie!

Shame about the effects of drought, every thing seems to cope and then suddenly after about 5 – 7 years…oh no the trees are dying…

We have lost our big Doolan tree at the other place, I think it might have been hit by a whiff of defoliant plus the downpipe to the “bubbler” near the tree has rotted away…

They’re supposed to revegetate after mining…well in Qld they are supposed to anyway…it’s never the same tho but let’s face it the indiscriminate clearing by farmers 50 years ago covered a bigger “footprint” than mining currently does…just that mining is more visible with it’s mountainous mullock heaps, etc…

justin said:

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

sweet :D

track back up the dead branch the robin is on, to see the faces.

the owl, dog and gnome?

actually it’s the red Capped robin (not red hooded)

Dinetta said:

They’re supposed to revegetate after mining…well in Qld they are supposed to anyway…it’s never the same tho but let’s face it the indiscriminate clearing by farmers 50 years ago covered a bigger “footprint” than mining currently does…just that mining is more visible with it’s mountainous mullock heaps, etc…

rehabilitation happens when the mine is finished – this one is still being used – big time – it’s where my tank platform got its sand.
trucks go in and out of the quarry every 10 minutes.

justin said:

justin said:

roughbarked said:

track back up the dead branch the robin is on, to see the faces.

the owl, dog and gnome?

actually it’s the red Capped robin (not red hooded)

..a Rose by any other name…

Dinetta said:

justin said:

justin said:

the owl, dog and gnome?

actually it’s the red Capped robin (not red hooded)

..a Rose by any other name…

That’d be the rose breasted robin.

roughbarked said:

..a Rose by any other name…

That’d be the rose breasted robin.

Fair dinkum?

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

..a Rose by any other name…

That’d be the rose breasted robin.

Fair dinkum?

;) well it is the rose robin if you want to get technical.

The red capped robin, has a red cap(male)
The flame robin has a flame coloured breast and the rose robin has a rose pink breast.. the hooded robin is actually black and white.

roughbarked said:

;) well it is the rose robin if you want to get technical.

The red capped robin, has a red cap(male)
The flame robin has a flame coloured breast and the rose robin has a rose pink breast.. the hooded robin is actually black and white.

There is a little wren type bird here, it’s black with a reddish chest…builds a nest like a wren anyhow…

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

;) well it is the rose robin if you want to get technical.

The red capped robin, has a red cap(male)
The flame robin has a flame coloured breast and the rose robin has a rose pink breast.. the hooded robin is actually black and white.

There is a little wren type bird here, it’s black with a reddish chest…builds a nest like a wren anyhow…

I thought there might be a bird watcher in the group – so I looked it up – red capped is right.

I’ve got the bird book out – and – no red chested wrens – red-backed and variegated are your two wrens.

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

;) well it is the rose robin if you want to get technical.

The red capped robin, has a red cap(male)
The flame robin has a flame coloured breast and the rose robin has a rose pink breast.. the hooded robin is actually black and white.

There is a little wren type bird here, it’s black with a reddish chest…builds a nest like a wren anyhow…

I thought there might be a bird watcher in the group – so I looked it up – red capped is right.

I’ve got the bird book out – and – no red chested wrens – red-backed and variegated are your two wrens.

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

;) well it is the rose robin if you want to get technical.

The red capped robin, has a red cap(male)
The flame robin has a flame coloured breast and the rose robin has a rose pink breast.. the hooded robin is actually black and white.

There is a little wren type bird here, it’s black with a reddish chest…builds a nest like a wren anyhow…

at what height is the nest built?

justin said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

;) well it is the rose robin if you want to get technical.

The red capped robin, has a red cap(male)
The flame robin has a flame coloured breast and the rose robin has a rose pink breast.. the hooded robin is actually black and white.

There is a little wren type bird here, it’s black with a reddish chest…builds a nest like a wren anyhow…

I thought there might be a bird watcher in the group – so I looked it up – red capped is right.

I’ve got the bird book out – and – no red chested wrens – red-backed and variegated are your two wrens.

In my yard I only get the variegated wrens. The Splendid wren and the Blue wren may also be seen around here but only in the National parks or hilly country.

roughbarked said:

justin said:

Dinetta said:

There is a little wren type bird here, it’s black with a reddish chest…builds a nest like a wren anyhow…

I thought there might be a bird watcher in the group – so I looked it up – red capped is right.

I’ve got the bird book out – and – no red chested wrens – red-backed and variegated are your two wrens.

In my yard I only get the variegated wrens. The Splendid wren and the Blue wren may also be seen around here but only in the National parks or hilly country.

The scarlet robin female does have a reddish chest The male is quite scarlet breasted but with a white brow cap.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

justin said:

I thought there might be a bird watcher in the group – so I looked it up – red capped is right.

I’ve got the bird book out – and – no red chested wrens – red-backed and variegated are your two wrens.

In my yard I only get the variegated wrens. The Splendid wren and the Blue wren may also be seen around here but only in the National parks or hilly country.

The scarlet robin female does have a reddish chest. The male is quite scarlet breasted but with a white brow cap.

The Mistletoe bird is often confused with the red capped robin.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

;) well it is the rose robin if you want to get technical.

The red capped robin, has a red cap(male)
The flame robin has a flame coloured breast and the rose robin has a rose pink breast.. the hooded robin is actually black and white.

There is a little wren type bird here, it’s black with a reddish chest…builds a nest like a wren anyhow…

at what height is the nest built?

Ah, about hip height? Pretty sure it’s them…also think they nest in the thony bushes…I’m not saying I’m right, but this is my observation….willing to be corrected…

roughbarked said:

The scarlet robin female does have a reddish chest The male is quite scarlet breasted but with a white brow cap.

If only I could get them to sit still long enough to check out all of that, lol!

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

There is a little wren type bird here, it’s black with a reddish chest…builds a nest like a wren anyhow…

at what height is the nest built?

Ah, about hip height? Pretty sure it’s them…also think they nest in the thony bushes…I’m not saying I’m right, but this is my observation….willing to be corrected…

Yes, wrens prefer to nest at about one metre or less from the ground in bushes or indeed even in the grass.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

at what height is the nest built?

Ah, about hip height? Pretty sure it’s them…also think they nest in the thony bushes…I’m not saying I’m right, but this is my observation….willing to be corrected…

Yes, wrens prefer to nest at about one metre or less from the ground in bushes or indeed even in the grass.

My Westringia is very popular with wrens and sparrows. I keep it trimmed so that it is nice and thick. I often wonder if there is a nest in there but don’t want to disturb them if there is by looking. With the sparrows, I can walk outside and about 20 or so of them will erupt from hidden inside the bush.

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Ah, about hip height? Pretty sure it’s them…also think they nest in the thony bushes…I’m not saying I’m right, but this is my observation….willing to be corrected…

Yes, wrens prefer to nest at about one metre or less from the ground in bushes or indeed even in the grass.

My Westringia is very popular with wrens and sparrows. I keep it trimmed so that it is nice and thick. I often wonder if there is a nest in there but don’t want to disturb them if there is by looking. With the sparrows, I can walk outside and about 20 or so of them will erupt from hidden inside the bush.

I made that mistake once. Trimmed back the shrubbery right to the blue wrens nest.

Put away the secateurs after that.