Date: 9/04/2013 13:17:32
From: sarahs mum
ID: 292768
Subject: Tasmanian salmon

What happens to salmon who escape from the fish farms when they become old enough to ‘return to the source’? Where do they go?

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Date: 9/04/2013 13:19:21
From: Bubblecar
ID: 292772
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

Good question.

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Date: 9/04/2013 13:48:44
From: podzol
ID: 292783
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

Yes, a good question!

I wonder if they their instinct is to swim upstream? Against the flow? Towards the fresher/colder water?

At least an escaped salmon might have some direction to go, what about the farmed ones that can’t make a journey?

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Date: 9/04/2013 13:54:33
From: sarahs mum
ID: 292784
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

>At least an escaped salmon might have some direction to go,

but i am assuming that they won’t find scotland.

>what about the farmed ones that can’t make a journey

from what i read the salmon don’t become fully sexualised until they are well on their journey home.
(which makes me wonder what they do to the salmon to get roe on the fish farm.)

but i assume most of these salmons would be dead before they got the idea of a caledonian excursion.

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Date: 9/04/2013 14:04:24
From: Bubblecar
ID: 292787
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

They might find it hard to find enough food just to stay put, let alone embark on migrations.

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Date: 9/04/2013 15:13:00
From: Boris
ID: 292807
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

http://www.marineharvestcanada.com/farming_escaped_farmed_salmon.php

http://www.bellona.org/aquaculture/tema_aquaculture/Escapes

i would guess it would be more of a concern in the N hemisphere. i don’t think salmon migrate from near australia so mixing might not be so much of a problem. yet.

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Date: 9/04/2013 16:44:33
From: Teleost
ID: 292845
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

Escapee Salmon that don’t fall prey to seals and other predators die sad, lonely and unfulfilled. Unlike trout, they will not breed in Tasmanian waters. Salmon have been repeatedly introduced into a number of Tasmanian waterways since the mid to late 1800’s with no sign of establishment.

Originally, the assimilation societies and what later became the Inland Fisheries Service were attempting to establish a local population. In this they failed spectacularly and expensively. The populations of Atlantic salmon in Tasmania’s fresh water are maintained through stocking programs.

Salmon maintain a “scent picture” of the streams they were spawned in. They use this to navigate back to the same place when it is their time to spawn, detecting odours in almost homeopathic concentrations. I know Tassie has beautiful water, but for salmon it’s not quite home.

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Date: 9/04/2013 16:50:21
From: sibeen
ID: 292847
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

>Salmon maintain a “scent picture” of the streams they were spawned in.

Why can’t they be spawned in a Tassie river?

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Date: 9/04/2013 16:55:39
From: Divine Angel
ID: 292851
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

How would you get the original spawning pair to breed in the river when they’ve not been spawned from there?

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Date: 9/04/2013 17:12:14
From: sibeen
ID: 292857
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

I was thinking of an artificial means.

Can’t that be done?

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Date: 9/04/2013 17:19:56
From: Divine Angel
ID: 292860
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

Like transplanting fertilised eggs into a virgin stream?

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Date: 9/04/2013 17:20:42
From: Teleost
ID: 292861
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

It’s currently done by physically stripping eggs and milt from the fish. Fertilisation and then rearing through the juvenile stages.

There were studies done in the 1970’s on imprinting on young fish so they would home on an artificially introduced scent.

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Date: 9/04/2013 17:27:35
From: Teleost
ID: 292868
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

Why would you want to change the breeding behaviour of Salmon? Having yet another exotic mouth full of teeth splashing around and establishing a population doesn’t seem like a good idea to me.

With salmon, we have an easily manipulated animal that can’t run feral. The few escapees that do get away don’t appear to persist in the environment for very long.

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Date: 9/04/2013 17:33:02
From: Divine Angel
ID: 292872
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

Teleost said:


Why would you want to change the breeding behaviour of Salmon?

Because we like messing with nature, of course.

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Date: 9/04/2013 18:18:11
From: Teleost
ID: 292881
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

:)

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Date: 9/04/2013 19:02:12
From: sarahs mum
ID: 292900
Subject: re: Tasmanian salmon

okay. thank you all. i think it makes me happy.

(‘ceptin’ all the local fisherpeoples swear that it is near impossible to catch native fish in our area but it is quite easy to catch salmon and i am pretty sure the waters aren’t clean and green. actually i am not sure anything here in tas is clean.)

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