Any one had any recent experience with these? Seems that it is going to cost about $6,000 to dispose of my carcase, I recon it should be possible to do it for less than $2,000, and why can’t I be burnt I a body bag? I was told it was “against the law”, sounds like crap to me.

It’s not crap. Refer to Funeral Rights by Robert Larkin.
http://www.penguin.com.au/products/9780670071081/funeral-rights-what-australian-death-care-industry-doesn-t-want-you-know

You have be disposed of in a manner consistent with local laws, which means you’re paying for your body to be disposed of in a way as to prevent environmental contamination- this means you can’t be buried in your backyard because you could pollute water sources, for exam,ple/

DA thanks for that, I will chase up a copy for myself.

Do what my grandfather did – wander out into the desert and have your skeleton found many years later.

Mind you, from the notes found on him, he was none too pleased about it.

Neophyte said:

Mind you, from the notes found on him, he was none too pleased about it.

Hah.

Neophyte said:

Do what my grandfather did – wander out into the desert and have your skeleton found many years later.

Or just park yourself by the kerb in a wheelie bin, and let the council deal with it.

It’s a really interesting book. It outlines what you’re paying for with a funeral (they’re a business too) and how you can get the burial you want (e.g. a “green” funeral).

Here you go….I thought Choice had looked at funerals not too long ago.

http://www.choice.com.au/reviews-and-tests/money/shopping-and-legal/shopping/funeral-costs.aspx

Personally I’d like to be freeze dried and fractured into dust. But you can only have that done in Scandinavia.

bob(from black rock) said:

Any one had any recent experience with these? Seems that it is going to cost about $6,000 to dispose of my carcase, I recon it should be possible to do it for less than $2,000, and why can’t I be burnt I a body bag? I was told it was “against the law”, sounds like crap to me.

Having both Mum and Dad pass away late last year I can tell you it is expensive. Even if you dont go overboard as some do trying to make up for what should have been done/said before.

Brett

just get the US navy to bury you

i’m sure they would be happy to toss your lifeless body into the sea from a helicopter at some unknown location

>Having both Mum and Dad pass away late last year I can tell you it is expensive.

Thomo, I would have thought that your old man would have gone the military route.

I wonder what Mossad has in line for you Wookie…

sibeen said:

>Having both Mum and Dad pass away late last year I can tell you it is expensive.

Thomo, I would have thought that your old man would have gone the military route.

Jaysus, straight after wookie comes in with some shit.

Witty Rejoinder said:

I wonder what Mossad has in line for you Wookie…

nothing hopefully

for their sake

sibeen said:

sibeen said:

>Having both Mum and Dad pass away late last year I can tell you it is expensive.

Thomo, I would have thought that your old man would have gone the military route.

Jaysus, straight after wookie comes in with some shit.

i know

its freakish right?

Thomo, I would have thought that your old man would have gone the military route.

Yes he was seen off that way ,

It was big but there are consequenses for the family when you have a big one

I meant more the privacy route rather than the financal route Sibeen

You can also avoid costs by donating your body to science (one of my uncles did this)

Anyway I hope you’re not planning to leave us for quite some time yet, bob.

Thomo said:

I meant more the privacy route rather than the financal route Sibeen

OK, actually reading your dad’s eulogy at the moment.

>You can also avoid costs by donating your body to science

That’s what I’ve done, to the horror of SWMBO.

OK, actually reading your dad’s eulogy at the moment.

That would be part of it the one by Dave Ashby RSMA

Yep.

He wasnt the only one to have something to say that day…

Thomo said:

He wasnt the only one to have something to say that day…

Yes, realise that.

I had to organise the cheapest funeral I could find for my Mum. She had started to organise her own but fate stepped in and it was up to me.

After much ringing around I managed one for a little over $2k

The cheapest box possible (asked re cardboard or bags etc), cremated, split into 2 and returned.

It was strange not to have a service but final wishes had to be respected.

It was strange not to have a service but final wishes had to be respected.

I have never wanted a funeral service particularly a big one or one in a Church.

But

Funerals are for the surviving as much as they are for the deceased ,

Thomo said:

It was strange not to have a service but final wishes had to be respected.

I have never wanted a funeral service particularly a big one or one in a Church.

But

Funerals are for the surviving as much as they are for the deceased ,

I agree and tried to discuss this with Mum when she first informed us. But she was adamant she was not to have a service, in her opinion if people wanted to pay respect/wishes they could do it while she was alive.

I had my head around it by the time it happened but others found it difficult, not being able to say their goodbyes.

I’m not entirely sure what I would do if Mr buffy died at this stage. Neither of us have any religion, so there wouldn’t be a church service. We have talked about it a bit, and the current vague plan would be just to be cremated and then for the survivor to invite friends and family to a walk at our bush block for a scattering. But I’m not really sure the local town would accept that, as so many of them are very fond of Mr buffy for his ambulance work. He has attended to a large proportion of the town over the last 7 or 8 years or whatever it is. And as an optometrist of over 30 years in this district I’ve also got quite a ‘family’ of patients now too. So he might have trouble if I was to die. Neither of us look to be in imminent danger, but you should have at least a vague idea I suppose once you are over 50.

Buried my father recently. Funeral expenses are the least of my worries. Probably end up spending close to 2K removing 40 cubic meters of trash from his estate. The ‘executioners’ are dads solicitors. At least he never got a computer…

Harking to Buffy’s comment.

My FiL was an agnostic, raised as an orphan by the Masons, and died a Mason.. He thought that sounded better than athiest, to his religious wife. Anyway he died first so she talked her minister into giving a non-believer a church funeral. The surprising thing was that the church overflowed with people who wanted to pay their respects.

Went to a funeral in St Arnaud last month.

It was ‘supposed’ to be completely non-religious, and was held at the RSL, with a few hundred people in attendance. The bloke running the ceremony got a tad carried away, and asked everyone to recite the “our father” just before the coffin was carried out. Much to the disgust of the family, and the vast majority of those there, which was reflected in the lack of response.

Everyone there knew the bloke was a fervent non believer, and respected his wishes by staying silent.

What is the advantage of pre-paying a funeral? If you can afford to shell out for a funeral now, you are presumably not completely broke. So why not just let the money come out of your estate when you die? Funeral companies are usually prepared to wait until probate is granted.

I think the whole thing is a scam. A way of extracting money out of you well before it is required so that someone can invest it and make a profit on it that would otherwise be part of your income.

When you pre-pay a funeral, you’re assured of getting the funeral you want. After you die, your family might give you a casket you wouldn’t want (assuming you care about such things) or a cheapy one and keep the extra dosh for themselves. That’s really the only advantage.

Divine Angel said:

When you pre-pay a funeral, you’re assured of getting the funeral you want. After you die, your family might give you a casket you wouldn’t want (assuming you care about such things) or a cheapy one and keep the extra dosh for themselves. That’s really the only advantage.

When my mother died she made the three children joint executors and had pre-organised and paid for the funeral. She had pre-paid, that she be buried with her husband and had pre-organised the altering of the military brass plate to include her own name. Her only request was that we dispensed with the church service and had a graveside service.

As a joint executor I was thankful that mum had saved the three of us arguing about such details.

Opa’s funeral wasn’t prepaid but he had left legal agreements as to what he wanted. Basically it was only a graveside service and to be buried with Oma. Mum and my aunt also got a plaque with Oma & Opa’s wedding photo on it to put on the gravestone. Opa didn’t want anything fancy, just the bare necessities.

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

When you pre-pay a funeral, you’re assured of getting the funeral you want. After you die, your family might give you a casket you wouldn’t want (assuming you care about such things) or a cheapy one and keep the extra dosh for themselves. That’s really the only advantage.

When my mother died she made the three children joint executors and had pre-organised and paid for the funeral. She had pre-paid, that she be buried with her husband and had pre-organised the altering of the military brass plate to include her own name. Her only request was that we dispensed with the church service and had a graveside service.

As a joint executor I was thankful that mum had saved the three of us arguing about such details.

Could she not have simply put her funeral instructions in her will?

morrie said:

roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

When you pre-pay a funeral, you’re assured of getting the funeral you want. After you die, your family might give you a casket you wouldn’t want (assuming you care about such things) or a cheapy one and keep the extra dosh for themselves. That’s really the only advantage.

When my mother died she made the three children joint executors and had pre-organised and paid for the funeral. She had pre-paid, that she be buried with her husband and had pre-organised the altering of the military brass plate to include her own name. Her only request was that we dispensed with the church service and had a graveside service.

As a joint executor I was thankful that mum had saved the three of us arguing about such details.

Could she not have simply put her funeral instructions in her will?

Yes and she did. Everything was pre-organised.

roughbarked said:

morrie said:

roughbarked said:

When my mother died she made the three children joint executors and had pre-organised and paid for the funeral. She had pre-paid, that she be buried with her husband and had pre-organised the altering of the military brass plate to include her own name. Her only request was that we dispensed with the church service and had a graveside service.

As a joint executor I was thankful that mum had saved the three of us arguing about such details.

Could she not have simply put her funeral instructions in her will?

Yes and she did. Everything was pre-organised.

So I don’t see why it needed to be pre-paid really. Pre-organised but no need for it to be paid.

morrie said:

roughbarked said:

morrie said:

Could she not have simply put her funeral instructions in her will?

Yes and she did. Everything was pre-organised.

So I don’t see why it needed to be pre-paid really. Pre-organised but no need for it to be paid.

The site was already paid for for dad’s grave but the Shire council expects to be pre-paid for any extra burial. Also the plaque needed to be pre-ordered and thus pre-paid. Otherwise, the rest was pre-organised to be paid from the estate.

One thing about pre-paying is that one gets the price on the day. ie: one could have avoided GST on everything if one had pre-paid before its inception.

morrie said:

What is the advantage of pre-paying a funeral? If you can afford to shell out for a funeral now, you are presumably not completely broke. So why not just let the money come out of your estate when you die? Funeral companies are usually prepared to wait until probate is granted.

I had a friend who decided that she couldn’t be sure when or how she’d die, or whether she’d have any friends when she did, so she prepaid for her funeral. The idea of prepaying for your funeral seems to me to be a modern version of sailors wearing gold earrings so that if they die away from their home port their friends/shipmates can sell the gold to pay for their disposal.

I’ve always preferred the idea of cremation, but if someone were to examine the result of storing human remains under extreme pressure I would throw in. Who knows, it may turn out that an alternative crude is vital to the future of civilisation. Would be more immediately satisfying to leave behind a small gift for the squeamish. :P

roughbarked said:

One thing about pre-paying is that one gets the price on the day. ie: one could have avoided GST on everything if one had pre-paid before its inception.

Reminds me of the old bird from Adrian Mole’s Dairy. She paid for horse drawn carriages but died so many years later it wasn’t worth anything.

I think the whole thing is a scam.
———————————————

Of course not.

The main thing is you can pay a weekly amount from your miserly pension sleeping soundly at night in the knowledge that if you fall off your skateboard in the next 10 to 15 years and have be in hospital for 6 weeks to replace your hip and contract golden staff and and die an agonizing long winded death…

Your children, OMG the kids, will not have to bother picking a casket and going to your bank to release the funds.

Thank fuck for that.

I think the main benefit of pre paid is you know exactly what it is going to cost.

bob(from black rock) said:

I think the main benefit of pre paid is you know exactly what it is going to cost.

be farked if im going to be paying me own funeral

Dropbear said:

bob(from black rock) said:

I think the main benefit of pre paid is you know exactly what it is going to cost.

be farked if im going to be paying me own funeral

Yeah I get that, but I don’t feel happy about dumping the cost on anyone else.

bob(from black rock) said:

Dropbear said:

bob(from black rock) said:

I think the main benefit of pre paid is you know exactly what it is going to cost.

be farked if im going to be paying me own funeral

Yeah I get that, but I don’t feel happy about dumping the cost on anyone else.

you’re sposed to leave something for your kids.. may as well be a bill..

i hope you’re not expecting to have to cash this in soon, bob.

Dropbear said:

bob(from black rock) said:

Dropbear said:

be farked if im going to be paying me own funeral

Yeah I get that, but I don’t feel happy about dumping the cost on anyone else.

you’re sposed to leave something for your kids.. may as well be a bill..

i hope you’re not expecting to have to cash this in soon, bob.

Thanks Mr Bear, but it is better to leave a year early, than miss your escape date by 5 minutes

>Thanks Mr Bear, but it is better to leave a year early, than miss your escape date by 5 minutes

True enough and good luck, bob. But I hope you’ll be peeping in here for a good while yet.

Bubblecar said:

>Thanks Mr Bear, but it is better to leave a year early, than miss your escape date by 5 minutes

True enough and good luck, bob. But I hope you’ll be peeping in here for a good while yet.

Thankyou too Bubbles, yeah me too, but I ain’t going into a nursing home.

I’m starting to like the idea of travelling to Tibet and having a sky-burial. Seems a quieter way to sort it out.

>Thankyou too Bubbles, yeah me too, but I ain’t going into a nursing home.

It’s not a fate I’d be wanting, no.

Riff-in-Thyme said:

I’m starting to like the idea of travelling to Tibet and having a sky-burial. Seems a quieter way to sort it out.

“Vas iz das sky-burial”?

Bubblecar said:

>Thankyou too Bubbles, yeah me too, but I ain’t going into a nursing home.

It’s not a fate I’d be wanting, no.

Oh I don’t know. Meet lots of new friends every day.

Birds pick your flesh.

Sky burials aren’t popular with the locals because they get bits of bodies dropped on their houses. In India, funerals are very open. Your body is placed on a pyre and burned. It’s not gross or hidden away, it’s a ritual in which everyone participates.

>Oh I don’t know. Meet lots of new friends every day.

Hmm and eventually, every few minutes.

Divine Angel said:

Sky burials aren’t popular with the locals because they get bits of bodies dropped on their houses. In India, funerals are very open. Your body is placed on a pyre and burned. It’s not gross or hidden away, it’s a ritual in which everyone participates.

Perhaps a Viking funeral is “the way to go”?

bob(from black rock) said:

Divine Angel said:

Sky burials aren’t popular with the locals because they get bits of bodies dropped on their houses. In India, funerals are very open. Your body is placed on a pyre and burned. It’s not gross or hidden away, it’s a ritual in which everyone participates.

Perhaps a Viking funeral is “the way to go”?

I did leave it too late to be shagged to death by Sofia Lorren.

bob(from black rock) said:

“Vas iz das sky-burial”?

Monks carry your body to a secluded mountain top, perform the rites and lay you out for the vultures to clean up. I’d like the view.

Riff-in-Thyme said:

Monks carry your body to a secluded mountain top, perform the rites and lay you out for the vultures to clean up. I’d like the view.

I wouldn’t mind being left to rot on a body farm.

Divine Angel said:

Sky burials aren’t popular with the locals because they get bits of bodies dropped on their houses. In India, funerals are very open. Your body is placed on a pyre and burned. It’s not gross or hidden away, it’s a ritual in which everyone participates.

In that case I would request that they wire my joints together and fasten the joints to the ground. When they had a nice clean skeleton left they could then pass that on to be used as a stage prop for a good rock and roll band.

Witty Rejoinder said:

I wouldn’t mind being left to rot on a body farm.

There is something comical about that idea. You would have to leave them with a suitable epitaph?

Riff-in-Thyme said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

I wouldn’t mind being left to rot on a body farm.

There is something comical about that idea. You would have to leave them with a suitable epitaph?

“Eat me, Seymour”?

(paraphrased, naturally)

Divine Angel said:

“Eat me, Seymour”?

Nice :)

The price of a pre-paid funeral could buy you a lot of coke and supermodel butt while you’re still alive.

Peak Warming Man said:

The price of a pre-paid funeral could buy you a lot of coke and supermodel butt while you’re still alive.

GSEOH

Dropbear said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The price of a pre-paid funeral could buy you a lot of coke and supermodel butt while you’re still alive.

GSEOH

Is there a layby scheme for that?

Divine Angel said:

Dropbear said:

Peak Warming Man said:

The price of a pre-paid funeral could buy you a lot of coke and supermodel butt while you’re still alive.

GSEOH

Is there a layby scheme for that?

if you have the coke you get layby supermodel.

I’ll pay that.

tasty shepherrds pieand vegies for tea.

coffee and couch time

Mr buffy cooked a chook on the home rotisserie tonight. And baked potatoes, pumpkin and sweet potato. And peas. And I supplied some Casterton hedgehog for dessert. (I bought two bits yesterday and they are big enough to chop in two)

I blame stumpy…….

:)

I had a vegan pie tonight ..

was a bit tough, i think she struggled too long.

The Checkout…very shortly. After they have finished with milk, I guess.

Now..

The Checkout on iview:
http://www.abc.net.au/iview/#/view/32372

Divine Angel said:

It’s not crap. Refer to Funeral Rights by Robert Larkin.
http://www.penguin.com.au/products/9780670071081/funeral-rights-what-australian-death-care-industry-doesn-t-want-you-know

You have be disposed of in a manner consistent with local laws, which means you’re paying for your body to be disposed of in a way as to prevent environmental contamination- this means you can’t be buried in your backyard because you could pollute water sources, for exam,ple/

Divine Angel, thankyou for your suggestion, got a copy of this book. I am now going to give my body to the University, so there will be no cost to my estate for the disposal of my 1940 model Homo Sapiens Sapiens wreck, shit we have had some fun together though, the stainless steel liver I had installed really helped me last so long, though I have been off the piss for about 10 years now.