Date: 1/06/2008 19:17:05
From: pain master
ID: 16229
Subject: June Photos.

For some snorkeling shots from today, see the first three shots of my flickr…

pomfotos

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Date: 1/06/2008 19:19:26
From: bluegreen
ID: 16233
Subject: re: June Photos.

oh wow, a whole different world down there…

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Date: 1/06/2008 19:21:15
From: pepe
ID: 16238
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


For some snorkeling shots from today, see the first three shots of my flickr…

pomfotos

oooo-aaaa – are those colours real?

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Date: 1/06/2008 19:23:12
From: Lucky1
ID: 16240
Subject: re: June Photos.

Beautiful photos… as always from you…PM

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Date: 1/06/2008 19:26:11
From: veg gardener
ID: 16241
Subject: re: June Photos.

they are so nice PM.

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Date: 1/06/2008 19:30:44
From: pain master
ID: 16243
Subject: re: June Photos.

pepe said:


pain master said:

For some snorkeling shots from today, see the first three shots of my flickr…

pomfotos

oooo-aaaa – are those colours real?

yeah… the coral quite often ends up looking all greyish-greenish, but the tide was way out and these were in some very shallow water, so their true colour was easy to capture…

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Date: 1/06/2008 19:55:08
From: bubba louie
ID: 16255
Subject: re: June Photos.

PM I went into a shop today that was selling billums. They ranged from about $30 to a few hundred. The West Papuan ones were the must expensive.

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Date: 1/06/2008 20:19:46
From: pain master
ID: 16265
Subject: re: June Photos.

bubba louie said:


PM I went into a shop today that was selling billums. They ranged from about $30 to a few hundred. The West Papuan ones were the must expensive.

West Papuan eh? Tell me more, where these woolen or natural fibres? When I visited West Papua, all of their souvenirs were from the Sepik Province in PNG

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Date: 1/06/2008 20:56:00
From: bubba louie
ID: 16273
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


bubba louie said:

PM I went into a shop today that was selling billums. They ranged from about $30 to a few hundred. The West Papuan ones were the must expensive.

West Papuan eh? Tell me more, where these woolen or natural fibres? When I visited West Papua, all of their souvenirs were from the Sepik Province in PNG


Natural with beads or shells, the older the better. The lady running the gallery used to live in PNG.

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Date: 1/06/2008 21:01:18
From: bubba louie
ID: 16276
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


bubba louie said:

PM I went into a shop today that was selling billums. They ranged from about $30 to a few hundred. The West Papuan ones were the must expensive.

West Papuan eh? Tell me more, where these woolen or natural fibres? When I visited West Papua, all of their souvenirs were from the Sepik Province in PNG

If you can get your hands on some really old ones, like before whities arrived you could get over $1000.

If you ever find yourself with time to spare in Bris I’ll take you to the gallery.

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Date: 2/06/2008 12:48:43
From: pain master
ID: 16315
Subject: re: June Photos.

I would be keen to visit the shop. Thanks :)

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Date: 8/06/2008 16:39:00
From: pain master
ID: 17412
Subject: re: June Photos.

some wood fungus, a clump of white flowers plus a green damselfly await on my photo site…

pomfotos

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Date: 8/06/2008 17:57:38
From: pepe
ID: 17418
Subject: re: June Photos.

the fungus is shaped like a sea shell, great colours and patterns on the stamen contrasting with the white petals and that damselfly is unreal up close and in focus.
wished i could focus like that – still its nice to have you doing it for us.

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Date: 8/06/2008 18:21:03
From: pomolo
ID: 17422
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


some wood fungus, a clump of white flowers plus a green damselfly await on my photo site…

pomfotos

The damselfly grabbed me. The sunset grabbed me. The Memorial got me.

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Date: 8/06/2008 19:25:00
From: Yeehah
ID: 17431
Subject: re: June Photos.

Lurk. Lurk.

Am I the only one?

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Date: 9/06/2008 07:21:26
From: pain master
ID: 17522
Subject: re: June Photos.

pepe said:


the fungus is shaped like a sea shell, great colours and patterns on the stamen contrasting with the white petals and that damselfly is unreal up close and in focus.
wished i could focus like that – still its nice to have you doing it for us.

Thanks pepe, the damselfly helped by sitting on the rock with the most sunshine… considering we were standing in a creekbed in the bottom of a jungle filled valley.

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Date: 9/06/2008 07:24:10
From: pain master
ID: 17523
Subject: re: June Photos.

pomolo said:


pain master said:

some wood fungus, a clump of white flowers plus a green damselfly await on my photo site…

pomfotos

The damselfly grabbed me. The sunset grabbed me. The Memorial got me.

Thanks pomolo, It is a tough Memorial to photograph and I recently saw a shot by the regular PNG photographer when Kevin Rudd visited and I noticed that he had used a very wide angle lens with a very short focal length… When I got my 8mm fisheye, the Memorial was one of the first places I headed.

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:04:52
From: pain master
ID: 17549
Subject: re: June Photos.

ok… instead of dropping the shots into the flickr and getting you guys to go there… I’d thought I’d go Old School again and plonk the shots into the p’bucket and then HTML them here, all for your viewing pleasure…

The first group of shots were all taken near the village of Isurava, this village is stuck on the Kokoda Track and was the scene of some fairly brutal and bloody fighting over a 4 day period in August of 1942. I was lucky enough to spend some time with the locals up there and eat some of their local wildlife…

But here are the flowers that they grow to beautify their village…

14 shots first up.

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:07:34
From: pain master
ID: 17552
Subject: re: June Photos.

between Deniki and Isurava, there was once a bushfire, the indigenous scrub failed to reclaim the burnt out land but Choko vines prevailed. The locals eat the leaves and the last 30cm of the tendril/leader, well tasty. Only recently have they started to eat the fruit…

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v648/painmaster/Papua%20New%20Guinea/chokofields.jpg

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:07:56
From: Lucky1
ID: 17553
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


ok… instead of dropping the shots into the flickr and getting you guys to go there… I’d thought I’d go Old School again and plonk the shots into the p’bucket and then HTML them here, all for your viewing pleasure…

The first group of shots were all taken near the village of Isurava, this village is stuck on the Kokoda Track and was the scene of some fairly brutal and bloody fighting over a 4 day period in August of 1942. I was lucky enough to spend some time with the locals up there and eat some of their local wildlife…

But here are the flowers that they grow to beautify their village…

14 shots first up.


sweet:D

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:09:03
From: pain master
ID: 17554
Subject: re: June Photos.

between Deniki and Isurava, there was once a bushfire, the indigenous scrub failed to reclaim the burnt out land but Choko vines prevailed. The locals eat the leaves and the last 30cm of the tendril/leader, well tasty. Only recently have they started to eat the fruit…

lets try again…

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:18:50
From: pain master
ID: 17558
Subject: re: June Photos.

Here is a plant I first saw in Townsville, and there is a nice mauve version… The plant suffers when flowering and should be deadheaded at all opportunities. Related to mint, it doesn’t mind a cut back every now and then…

Orthosiphon stamineus

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:23:45
From: pain master
ID: 17561
Subject: re: June Photos.

Here is some Angel’s Trumpets… Brugmansia x candida

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:28:51
From: pain master
ID: 17562
Subject: re: June Photos.

I’ll be back with more later, photos are a bit large…. sorry :(

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:35:12
From: colliewa
ID: 17563
Subject: re: June Photos.

>photos are a bit large

Irfanview is a free program that will resize photos and do much more too..

You might find it useful.

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:42:51
From: pain master
ID: 17564
Subject: re: June Photos.

cheers Colliewa, I have never had a problem with massive photos before, I was just trying a new technique to see if I could get clearer images to the audiences. I have a few more tricks up my sleeve…

One question though, can the program you mention orientate pictures in individual degrees, as opposed to 90 or 180 or 270 degree orientation??? I would love a program where you can just shift the horizon a few degrees of level…

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Date: 9/06/2008 12:55:27
From: colliewa
ID: 17567
Subject: re: June Photos.

>an the program you mention orientate pictures in individual degrees, as opposed to 90 or 180 or 270 degree orientation???

I don’t know.. But the cost is zero, the download small.. You can also get a set of plugins to extend its capabilitiies and this is only ~5MB..

I don’t usually use windows so I don’t use it. But hear it is a Good Thing.

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Date: 9/06/2008 13:01:52
From: colliewa
ID: 17572
Subject: re: June Photos.

http://world.std.com/~mmcirvin/gimp_tutorial/rotate_crop.html

One available on Linux is Gimp. You can rotate to any angle with it.

There is a windows version I think.

Yes, HERE it is.. It is a bigger download than irfanview though, gimp is about 18MB.

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Date: 9/06/2008 13:02:05
From: colliewa
ID: 17573
Subject: re: June Photos.

http://world.std.com/~mmcirvin/gimp_tutorial/rotate_crop.html

One available on Linux is Gimp. You can rotate to any angle with it.

There is a windows version I think.

Yes, HERE it is.. It is a bigger download than irfanview though, gimp is about 18MB.

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Date: 9/06/2008 13:49:53
From: pain master
ID: 17580
Subject: re: June Photos.

Thanks Colliewa :)

Here is a purple flower that I do not know the name of :(

let’s see what this size is like…

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Date: 9/06/2008 13:50:58
From: Dinetta
ID: 17581
Subject: re: June Photos.

Size is pretty good…dowloaded in a trice on broadband…

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Date: 9/06/2008 13:51:21
From: Dinetta
ID: 17582
Subject: re: June Photos.

…and the flower was nice an clear, too…

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Date: 9/06/2008 13:51:58
From: Lucky1
ID: 17583
Subject: re: June Photos.

Beautiful and a good size photo too:) Pretty blue flower

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Date: 9/06/2008 13:57:48
From: pain master
ID: 17586
Subject: re: June Photos.

here is a wee floribunda growing up in the mountains…

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:00:45
From: pain master
ID: 17588
Subject: re: June Photos.

Dinetta said:


Size is pretty good…dowloaded in a trice on broadband…

Aye, they’re quite small in size, just a bit large in image… I still need to think of those like myself on dial up.

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:04:56
From: pain master
ID: 17589
Subject: re: June Photos.

and here is a Pentas.

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:28:27
From: Dinetta
ID: 17591
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


here is a wee floribunda growing up in the mountains…


goodness, what is it doing there?

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:32:06
From: pain master
ID: 17592
Subject: re: June Photos.

Dinetta said:


pain master said:

here is a wee floribunda growing up in the mountains…


goodness, what is it doing there?

There’s a few Roses growing up in the Highlands of Niugini, Isurava however is found at 1400mASL so not unlike the weather up in the Atherton Tablelands and higher… they would never see severe frosts up there though…

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:33:04
From: pain master
ID: 17594
Subject: re: June Photos.

and here is a perty Lantana…

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:34:21
From: Dinetta
ID: 17595
Subject: re: June Photos.

There’s a few Roses growing up in the Highlands of Niugini, Isurava however is found at 1400mASL so not unlike the weather up in the Atherton Tablelands and higher… they would never see severe frosts up there though
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I have heard it is very cool up there…I’ve also heard that some parts of Niugini they have heaters in the pianos to stop the soundboard from warping in the humidity…are these roses in a garden or have they “escaped”?

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:35:56
From: Dinetta
ID: 17596
Subject: re: June Photos.

and here is a perty Lantana…
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I love lantana (don’t tell Bubba Louie)…but they can be a pest …sometimes I think “they” should outlaw the importation of ALL south african (and south american?) plants…

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:44:00
From: pain master
ID: 17599
Subject: re: June Photos.

Dinetta said:


There’s a few Roses growing up in the Highlands of Niugini, Isurava however is found at 1400mASL so not unlike the weather up in the Atherton Tablelands and higher… they would never see severe frosts up there though
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I have heard it is very cool up there…I’ve also heard that some parts of Niugini they have heaters in the pianos to stop the soundboard from warping in the humidity…are these roses in a garden or have they “escaped”?

It is interesting, but Village horticulture is very aggressive, things only grow where they are meant to. In some areas, where feet have polished the clay for generations, nothing grows, and vegetables grow in vegetable patches.

So the rose would have been carried in, maybe a cutting from another village, or another province?

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:46:00
From: pain master
ID: 17601
Subject: re: June Photos.

and a yellow and white Lantana…

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:46:16
From: Dinetta
ID: 17602
Subject: re: June Photos.

So the rose would have been carried in, maybe a cutting from another village, or another province?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

but it is not native to Niugini, is it? Are you saying even the Niuginians are enamoured of roses and cultivate them?

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:47:02
From: Dinetta
ID: 17603
Subject: re: June Photos.

and a yellow and white Lantana…
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what a pretty shade of colour

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:48:42
From: pain master
ID: 17604
Subject: re: June Photos.

Dinetta said:


and here is a perty Lantana…
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I love lantana (don’t tell Bubba Louie)…but they can be a pest …sometimes I think “they” should outlaw the importation of ALL south african (and south american?) plants…

How true, there are many plants up here that the locals will tell me adamantly that the plant is a local, and I do sometimes try to tell them that the South American’s are to blame, and to those Portugese and Spanish Traders who visited the South American ports on route around the globe…..

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:53:27
From: pain master
ID: 17606
Subject: re: June Photos.

this Ginger was awesome! The flower was on a stalk about 6ft tall and woody as! Then large leaves loomed overhead!

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Date: 9/06/2008 14:55:51
From: Dinetta
ID: 17608
Subject: re: June Photos.

this Ginger was awesome!
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

you said it!

all the different colours came up with a nice amount of depth to them (well at least I think so)

going for sure now

:)

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:00:24
From: pain master
ID: 17609
Subject: re: June Photos.

So the rose would have been carried in, maybe a cutting from another village, or another province?
++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++

but it is not native to Niugini, is it? Are you saying even the Niuginians are enamoured of roses and cultivate them?
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Indeed, the Papuans as they are called in Isurava decorated everything, and flowers and hedges of Duranta and Codeaiums are prevalent. There are two reasons why a Papuan would grow something in their garden, food or beautification.

Whilst wandering these parts of the mountains, the local crew would sometimes find the bright red soil and they would often paint themselves or you, and they would say that it would beautify you. The same if you drove your car over a big red muddy puddle, you were beautifying your car. They’re a vane mob and imitating Birds of Paradise is their Nivana, the yellow clay of Ambua and the red clay of Sogeri is currency and traded amongst coastal people for shells and plumes. Quite often Fern leaves are just rolled up and placed on your head for extra decoration….

I have some welcome signs from another village to show later.

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:03:16
From: pain master
ID: 17611
Subject: re: June Photos.

this looked like a cross between a Malva and a Daisy. For a flower which always seemed to hang its head, it was very pretty…

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:08:33
From: pain master
ID: 17612
Subject: re: June Photos.

and here is a delicate little flower that was almost too soft to focus on… no idea what it is.

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:23:32
From: pain master
ID: 17617
Subject: re: June Photos.

here’s a nice mauve flower that made me think of Salvias…

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:33:06
From: pain master
ID: 17619
Subject: re: June Photos.

but here is a Salvia :)

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:36:48
From: pepe
ID: 17623
Subject: re: June Photos.

between Deniki and Isurava, there was once a bushfire, the indigenous scrub failed to reclaim the burnt out land but Choko vines prevailed. The locals eat the leaves and the last 30cm of the tendril/leader, well tasty. Only recently have they started to eat the fruit…lets try again…
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luv that one – if thats choko i’ve never seen choko before – great use of fisheye too.

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:40:05
From: Lucky1
ID: 17625
Subject: re: June Photos.

Your photos once again are outstanding PM:)

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:49:03
From: pain master
ID: 17633
Subject: re: June Photos.

pepe said:


between Deniki and Isurava, there was once a bushfire, the indigenous scrub failed to reclaim the burnt out land but Choko vines prevailed. The locals eat the leaves and the last 30cm of the tendril/leader, well tasty. Only recently have they started to eat the fruit…lets try again…
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luv that one – if thats choko i’ve never seen choko before – great use of fisheye too.

It is Choko and it smothers all, as you walk in this area, you will come across acres of the stuff, you walk for 10-15minutes in each patch… the locals harvest what is on the edge of the track, they do not need to venture into the middle of a patch!

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:50:39
From: pain master
ID: 17636
Subject: re: June Photos.

Lucky1 said:


Your photos once again are outstanding PM:)

Thanks Lucky :)

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Date: 9/06/2008 15:50:54
From: pain master
ID: 17637
Subject: re: June Photos.

Lucky1 said:


Your photos once again are outstanding PM:)

Thanks Lucky :)

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Date: 9/06/2008 16:16:42
From: bluegreen
ID: 17662
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


One question though, can the program you mention orientate pictures in individual degrees, as opposed to 90 or 180 or 270 degree orientation??? I would love a program where you can just shift the horizon a few degrees of level…

ACDSee can do that… the latest version you pay for, but you can download earlier versions for free (just google “free acdsee”)

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Date: 9/06/2008 16:46:28
From: pain master
ID: 17669
Subject: re: June Photos.

bluegreen said:


pain master said:

One question though, can the program you mention orientate pictures in individual degrees, as opposed to 90 or 180 or 270 degree orientation??? I would love a program where you can just shift the horizon a few degrees of level…

ACDSee can do that… the latest version you pay for, but you can download earlier versions for free (just google “free acdsee”)

I have finally downloaded the GIMP and it appears you can orientate shots, not quite fine tuned the process yet…..

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Date: 9/06/2008 17:25:24
From: aquarium
ID: 17671
Subject: re: June Photos.

if you need any help with GIMP let me know PM…i’ve used it for general graphics and some photo work for many moons. Now that i’ve got a Mac though i don’t use GIMP for photos, just use iPhoto. If you take loads of shots, then a Mac + Aperture (photography Mac program) is a professional workflow in pre-production. Take a tour of Aperture at Apple website if you’re interested to see. It’s miles ahead of any competition.

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Date: 9/06/2008 17:31:02
From: pain master
ID: 17674
Subject: re: June Photos.

aquarium said:


if you need any help with GIMP let me know PM…i’ve used it for general graphics and some photo work for many moons. Now that i’ve got a Mac though i don’t use GIMP for photos, just use iPhoto. If you take loads of shots, then a Mac + Aperture (photography Mac program) is a professional workflow in pre-production. Take a tour of Aperture at Apple website if you’re interested to see. It’s miles ahead of any competition.

I think I have already convinced myself that a Mac will be purchased when I return. The photography components of a Mac just rocks.

Can we see some of your photography one day Aqua?

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Date: 9/06/2008 17:57:35
From: bubba louie
ID: 17677
Subject: re: June Photos.

Dinetta said:


and here is a perty Lantana…
==================

I love lantana (don’t tell Bubba Louie)…but they can be a pest …sometimes I think “they” should outlaw the importation of ALL south african (and south american?) plants…

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lalalala not listening.

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Date: 9/06/2008 20:31:25
From: pomolo
ID: 17741
Subject: re: June Photos.

Orthosiphon stamineus
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Cat’s Whiskers. Lovely delicate colour.

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Date: 9/06/2008 20:42:13
From: orchid40
ID: 17743
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


Lucky1 said:

Your photos once again are outstanding PM:)

Thanks Lucky :)

I second that statement. Very enjoyable PM. Thanks again :)

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Date: 9/06/2008 20:44:46
From: pomolo
ID: 17744
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


here is a wee floribunda growing up in the mountains…


How do roses grow up in the mountains of New Guinea I’d like to know?

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Date: 9/06/2008 20:51:15
From: Lucky1
ID: 17745
Subject: re: June Photos.

How do roses grow up in the mountains of New Guinea I’d like to know?
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soil, water and sunshine;)

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Date: 9/06/2008 21:22:20
From: pomolo
ID: 17746
Subject: re: June Photos.

Indeed, the Papuans as they are called in Isurava decorated everything, and flowers and hedges of Duranta and Codeaiums are prevalent. There are two reasons why a Papuan would grow something in their garden, food or beautification.

Whilst wandering these parts of the mountains, the local crew would sometimes find the bright red soil and they would often paint themselves or you, and they would say that it would beautify you. The same if you drove your car over a big red muddy puddle, you were beautifying your car. They’re a vane mob and imitating Birds of Paradise is their Nivana, the yellow clay of Ambua and the red clay of Sogeri is currency and traded amongst coastal people for shells and plumes. Quite often Fern leaves are just rolled up and placed on your head for extra decoration….

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I love it. That’s real beauty.

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Date: 9/06/2008 21:24:03
From: pomolo
ID: 17747
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


and here is a delicate little flower that was almost too soft to focus on… no idea what it is.


Looks like a Christmas decoration.

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Date: 9/06/2008 21:33:29
From: pomolo
ID: 17749
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


here’s a nice mauve flower that made me think of Salvias…


Leaves look like Salvia. So do you know what it is?

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Date: 9/06/2008 21:37:28
From: colliewa
ID: 17751
Subject: re: June Photos.

How do roses grow up in the mountains of New Guinea I’d like to know?
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soil, water and sunshine;)

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Gets very cold up in the mountains Pom..

I lived in a town called Mendi (5,500ft), but we had stuff up at Hydes which was between 10-11,000 ft… Damn cold up there I’ve heard, though I never went there.

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Date: 9/06/2008 22:09:12
From: pomolo
ID: 17754
Subject: re: June Photos.

Lucky1 said:


How do roses grow up in the mountains of New Guinea I’d like to know?
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soil, water and sunshine;)

I thank you for your imput Lucky1. We don’t have to try anywhere else for gardening advice while your around do we? LOL

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Date: 9/06/2008 22:14:17
From: pomolo
ID: 17756
Subject: re: June Photos.

colliewa said:


How do roses grow up in the mountains of New Guinea I’d like to know?
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soil, water and sunshine;)

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Gets very cold up in the mountains Pom..

I lived in a town called Mendi (5,500ft), but we had stuff up at Hydes which was between 10-11,000 ft… Damn cold up there I’ve heard, though I never went there.

Cold air therefore dry? I was thinking of jungle humidity which roses don’t like. I’ve lived a sheltered life you know. lol.

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Date: 10/06/2008 10:03:19
From: Lucky1
ID: 17872
Subject: re: June Photos.

pomolo said:


Lucky1 said:

How do roses grow up in the mountains of New Guinea I’d like to know?
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soil, water and sunshine;)

I thank you for your imput Lucky1. We don’t have to try anywhere else for gardening advice while your around do we? LOL

You are most welcome:) And you thought I only knew how to grow vegies;)

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Date: 10/06/2008 12:40:50
From: pain master
ID: 17879
Subject: re: June Photos.

Thanks for your compliments Pomolo. I have only spent small periods of time in the Highlands of PNG, most of my wanderings have been coastal, but in regards to the weather up there… I spent some time at 10,000ft and the air was wet with the clouds either being below you or on you, the temps were between 16-22 whilst I was there, but it was wet… but rain up there just disappears into creeks and disappears, the soil doesn’t seem to get waterlogged, but clay patches will be at saturation point.

It has allegedly snowed a couple of times in Hagen and Goroka, but it never stays on the ground.

The roses are always poorly pruned and they are often left to ramble, and they are not fed like we feed our plants.

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Date: 10/06/2008 12:49:01
From: aquarium
ID: 17880
Subject: re: June Photos.

created flicker account etc….so here’s the link to my flickr animals set
some may not be as sharp as should be…as i forgot about adjusting diopter. still have lots of learning to do…still beats any photos i’ve ever taken with a compact :)

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Date: 10/06/2008 12:56:33
From: Happy Potter
ID: 17882
Subject: re: June Photos.

aquarium said:


created flicker account etc….so here’s the link to my flickr animals set
some may not be as sharp as should be…as i forgot about adjusting diopter. still have lots of learning to do…still beats any photos i’ve ever taken with a compact :)

They are great pic’s aquarium !
I have a panasonic lumix 12 x optical zoom 35 mm and can’t get shot’s that clear, but it’s the operater not the camera…
I need to look up where about’s I can do a basic photography course , I’ve read everything one can, but it’s different in the classroom.

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Date: 10/06/2008 13:16:32
From: aquarium
ID: 17883
Subject: re: June Photos.

i really implore you to try out a basic dslr HP if you do want to get good photos. it still takes some practice…but you simply can’t take pics like that with a compact digital, no matter how many megapixels it has. I found the book “BetterPhoto Guide to Digital Photography” a great read for starting to take good photos.
i’ve just uploaded a few plant/veg to flickr in plants set

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Date: 10/06/2008 14:02:32
From: cackles
ID: 17887
Subject: re: June Photos.

I am interested in this thread too:) Have made prelim enquiries re getting a D-SLR. Cheesed off with Canon though, as all my old lenses are FD and they changed the mount (well I bought my SLR camera (AT-1) in 1978 and gradually built up a nice set of Canon lens for a couple of bodies – now useless. So looking at a Nikon – say a bit up from entry level…Need something better for macro – but mainly will be for my own pleasure – chooks and garden, with plenty of manual override. It irritates the hell out of me that my compact digital Kodak wants to flash when I don’t want it to and that it is hard to get nice separation of subject from background…and I really miss the SLR though not inclined to use (slide) film any more – still have some in the fridge if anyone can use it?

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Date: 10/06/2008 14:04:25
From: bluegreen
ID: 17888
Subject: re: June Photos.

aquarium said:


created flicker account etc….so here’s the link to my flickr animals set
some may not be as sharp as should be…as i forgot about adjusting diopter. still have lots of learning to do…still beats any photos i’ve ever taken with a compact :)

you have some great photos there Aquarium. Particularly like the tiger shot :)

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Date: 10/06/2008 14:04:34
From: cackles
ID: 17889
Subject: re: June Photos.

Well – seem to be talking to myself – and really must get some plants potted up so bye for now. BBL I hope…

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Date: 10/06/2008 14:26:57
From: Happy Potter
ID: 17890
Subject: re: June Photos.

aquarium said:


i really implore you to try out a basic dslr HP if you do want to get good photos. it still takes some practice…but you simply can’t take pics like that with a compact digital, no matter how many megapixels it has. I found the book “BetterPhoto Guide to Digital Photography” a great read for starting to take good photos.
i’ve just uploaded a few plant/veg to flickr in plants set

But but but…
mines not a compact digital. Pic of it here. http://www.dpreview.com/reviews/panasonicfz50/
Beautiful camera, crap operator..

Great pic’s again aqua , thanks for sharing :)

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Date: 10/06/2008 14:51:39
From: aquarium
ID: 17893
Subject: re: June Photos.

nice camera HP….almost but not quite an slr though. lots of features etc….but the sensor is still smaller than an slr, so simply can’t capture as much good image data. good to see it has slr like controls, instead of long-winded menus with tons of useless features. The 12X zoom is partially done in digital = pixelated at max zoom.
how long is the shutter lag on it at max resolution?….with the dslr i don’t get any portrait shots with closed eyes due to shutter lag.
my first camera was a cheap ($350 with batteries and charger and card) compact. then i upgraded to another compact, which cost around $650. most shots still turned out crappy, unless lighting was perfect. i was looking around to extend the lens and found it would cost another $700, with the required converter. so i tried a nikon d40x at shop, bought it, and haven’t looked back since. did get a couple of books to learn some good basics. i spent about $1500 for the d40x kit, which has since already fallen in price, and you get the VR 200mm lens. The VR means that it has a mechanical image stabilisation, so you can take photos at max zoom with 1/30, without getting blur. compacts etc use digital image stabilization, which produces less blur but also less sharp focus….in other words pretty useless.
a professional photographer can take reasonable photos on a compact, with a lot of work. an amateur/beginner (like me) can get descent shots on a dslr without that much work.

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Date: 10/06/2008 15:10:57
From: Happy Potter
ID: 17894
Subject: re: June Photos.

aquarium said:


nice camera HP….almost but not quite an slr though. lots of features etc….but the sensor is still smaller than an slr, so simply can’t capture as much good image data. good to see it has slr like controls, instead of long-winded menus with tons of useless features. The 12X zoom is partially done in digital = pixelated at max zoom.
how long is the shutter lag on it at max resolution?….with the dslr i don’t get any portrait shots with closed eyes due to shutter lag.
my first camera was a cheap ($350 with batteries and charger and card) compact. then i upgraded to another compact, which cost around $650. most shots still turned out crappy, unless lighting was perfect. i was looking around to extend the lens and found it would cost another $700, with the required converter. so i tried a nikon d40x at shop, bought it, and haven’t looked back since. did get a couple of books to learn some good basics. i spent about $1500 for the d40x kit, which has since already fallen in price, and you get the VR 200mm lens. The VR means that it has a mechanical image stabilisation, so you can take photos at max zoom with 1/30, without getting blur. compacts etc use digital image stabilization, which produces less blur but also less sharp focus….in other words pretty useless.
a professional photographer can take reasonable photos on a compact, with a lot of work. an amateur/beginner (like me) can get descent shots on a dslr without that much work.

Ok ! ..I definately need to do a photography course then , I don’t understand a lot of that . Shutter lag is great though , I don’t get closed eye’s with this one like my old digital, I just wanted point and shoot, and the one I have is ok for that but I would like to become better at close up’s and learn how to get sharper pic’s.
Thanks for the info , it does help :)

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Date: 10/06/2008 15:51:07
From: aquarium
ID: 17897
Subject: re: June Photos.

sharper pics =
- make sure subject is in focus. learn to use the camera with focus lock, so you can re-compose the scene, without always having to have the subject dead centre.
- the more you zoom, the faster the shutter speed needs to be. at usual (no zoom setting) to do a portrait photo, you need about 1/60 sec so camera shake doesn’t show up as blurry/unfocused photo. at the 12x setting you probably need about 1/200 or better. tripod helps a lot if you can’t get those times.
- use flash fill-in even during the day, so you can get better speed for shutter, if light is not bright. if you have a setting for this, set it to rear-curtain flash. this makes the background light up more instead of a overbright person and dark background. alternately, set flash to %50 or so.

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Date: 10/06/2008 19:26:44
From: pomolo
ID: 17915
Subject: re: June Photos.

aquarium said:


created flicker account etc….so here’s the link to my flickr animals set
some may not be as sharp as should be…as i forgot about adjusting diopter. still have lots of learning to do…still beats any photos i’ve ever taken with a compact :)

Water Hens with Autumn leaves gets my vote. Tiger is good too.

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Date: 10/06/2008 20:11:25
From: aquarium
ID: 17926
Subject: re: June Photos.

thank you Pomolo, and everyone else, for the praise. i’m not a complete failure as an amateur photographer after all :)

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Date: 10/06/2008 20:12:11
From: bluegreen
ID: 17928
Subject: re: June Photos.

aquarium said:


thank you Pomolo, and everyone else, for the praise. i’m not a complete failure as an amateur photographer after all :)

certainly not! lol!

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Date: 10/06/2008 20:13:08
From: pomolo
ID: 17929
Subject: re: June Photos.

Hi there! BG, Pepe and Aquarium.

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Date: 10/06/2008 20:27:43
From: pepe
ID: 17943
Subject: re: June Photos.

aquarium said:


thank you Pomolo, and everyone else, for the praise. i’m not a complete failure as an amateur photographer after all :)

no – that duck one has beautiful colour and lighting and that spinach looks great with the light on the leaves.
however – i’ve got a part time poxy camera and will continue to post out of focus shots just to let you know its more about growing and eating plants than posing them. i think the gardening magazines make us all feel as though your garden has to look like a tourist attraction to be seen. personally i get as much joy from a snap as i do from the more exquisite shots.

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Date: 10/06/2008 20:31:31
From: aquarium
ID: 17946
Subject: re: June Photos.

never truer words were spoken Pepe.
it’s just a few shots of plants/veg that i haven’t deleted, and posted up.
i absolutely abhor all those gardening books that are more about the photos than anything else.

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Date: 10/06/2008 21:52:58
From: orchid40
ID: 18003
Subject: re: June Photos.

bluegreen said:


aquarium said:

thank you Pomolo, and everyone else, for the praise. i’m not a complete failure as an amateur photographer after all :)

certainly not! lol!

I thought they were great photos, much enjoyed!

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Date: 10/06/2008 21:56:16
From: cackles
ID: 18007
Subject: re: June Photos.

I thought they were great photos, much enjoyed
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Yes – I enjoyed them and have your albums bookmarked for a more leisurely peruse later, thank you :)

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Date: 21/06/2008 20:11:44
From: pain master
ID: 19611
Subject: re: June Photos.

here’s a yellow daisy with Spider :)

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Date: 21/06/2008 20:13:10
From: pain master
ID: 19613
Subject: re: June Photos.

and here’s a white Storm crocus :)

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Date: 21/06/2008 20:16:18
From: pain master
ID: 19615
Subject: re: June Photos.

And here’s a red ginger…

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Date: 21/06/2008 20:17:58
From: pain master
ID: 19618
Subject: re: June Photos.

another Red Gerbera.

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Date: 21/06/2008 20:20:10
From: pain master
ID: 19623
Subject: re: June Photos.

and I once heard this called a Gallipoli Rose…

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Date: 21/06/2008 20:22:00
From: pain master
ID: 19628
Subject: re: June Photos.

and a Canna Lily… Lae used to be famous for these flowers, but sadly they are far and few between now…

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Date: 21/06/2008 20:23:49
From: pain master
ID: 19629
Subject: re: June Photos.

and lastly an Allamander… and this concludes a tour of the gardens of Lae.

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Date: 21/06/2008 20:24:55
From: veg gardener
ID: 19631
Subject: re: June Photos.

Pm, has anyone told you this yet. Your good at taking photos. i really enjoy looking at them.

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Date: 21/06/2008 20:31:05
From: pain master
ID: 19637
Subject: re: June Photos.

veg gardener said:


Pm, has anyone told you this yet. Your good at taking photos. i really enjoy looking at them.

Thanks Veg, thank you. These last few shots were just taken with the old crusty point and shoot. Not a great camera but I thought it was a nice collection of flowers for you all to look at….

cheers,
pm

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Date: 22/06/2008 04:45:02
From: pomolo
ID: 19658
Subject: re: June Photos.

It’a nice to see some flowers in winter. I do have a magnolia that is about to burst forth with blooms though.

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Date: 22/06/2008 04:59:55
From: pomolo
ID: 19659
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


and lastly an Allamander… and this concludes a tour of the gardens of Lae.


I have a double yellow Allamander. The only one I’ve ever seen. Not that I think it’s rare, just not around like it should be. I am also on the lookout for Allamander ‘four seasons.’ It’s flower is a very deep velvety red, almost black. It’s a beauty.

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Date: 22/06/2008 07:20:09
From: pepe
ID: 19664
Subject: re: June Photos.

and a Canna Lily… Lae used to be famous for these flowers, but sadly they are far and few between now…
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luv photos – do you know why the cannas are becoming scarce?

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Date: 23/06/2008 20:50:10
From: pain master
ID: 20080
Subject: re: June Photos.

pepe said:


and a Canna Lily… Lae used to be famous for these flowers, but sadly they are far and few between now…
—————————————-
luv photos – do you know why the cannas are becoming scarce?

+++++++++++++++
maintenance, there are no longer the gardeners in the local council looking after the public areas. So the flowers suffer :(

and a almost black Allamander? Nice, I used to know of a purplish red one that was cool :)

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Date: 23/06/2008 21:35:31
From: pain master
ID: 20098
Subject: re: June Photos.

went for a walk and there were some “ahem” wildflowers…

saw this Dianella :) only had the p’n‘s so the focus is a bit pants….

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Date: 23/06/2008 21:36:27
From: pain master
ID: 20100
Subject: re: June Photos.

and this yellow daisy, it was very tiny….

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Date: 23/06/2008 21:37:42
From: pain master
ID: 20103
Subject: re: June Photos.

and these purple berries :)

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Date: 23/06/2008 21:38:44
From: pain master
ID: 20105
Subject: re: June Photos.

and a Tibouchina.

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Date: 23/06/2008 21:39:37
From: Happy Potter
ID: 20107
Subject: re: June Photos.

oh what beautiful colour’s PM :D the berries are stunning !

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Date: 23/06/2008 21:43:07
From: pain master
ID: 20113
Subject: re: June Photos.

thanks HP, I just noticed I didn’t resize the Dianella… ooops.

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Date: 24/06/2008 07:48:56
From: pomolo
ID: 20146
Subject: re: June Photos.

pain master said:


and these purple berries :)


You’re right! They are very purple berries

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