It’s mind-buggering just how fast the big V8 jet-boats are, and how quickly they can get into trouble with even a minor mistake.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=leLCC8LiC6Q&feature=player_embedded
None of that footage is sped-up.
He was just distracted by the kids in the back seat going “are we there yet?”
Kingy said:
He was just distracted by the kids in the back seat going “are we there yet?”
Could have been texting while driving.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
He was just distracted by the kids in the back seat going “are we there yet?”
Could have been texting while driving.
Yep, that’d be it for sure. The missus would have sent him one demanding that he pick up some milk and nappies on his way home, and he was just replying that he would as soon as he had finished this game of pool.
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
He was just distracted by the kids in the back seat going “are we there yet?”
Could have been texting while driving.
Yep, that’d be it for sure. The missus would have sent him one demanding that he pick up some milk and nappies on his way home, and he was just replying that he would as soon as he had finished this game of pool.
The real problem will be to explain what happened to the boss in the morning – that was the company boat.
This bloke got it right at least.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJrdhLTMDZU
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:Could have been texting while driving.
Yep, that’d be it for sure. The missus would have sent him one demanding that he pick up some milk and nappies on his way home, and he was just replying that he would as soon as he had finished this game of pool.
The real problem will be to explain what happened to the boss in the morning – that was the company boat.
First call is to the police to report that the boat was stolen.
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:Yep, that’d be it for sure. The missus would have sent him one demanding that he pick up some milk and nappies on his way home, and he was just replying that he would as soon as he had finished this game of pool.
The real problem will be to explain what happened to the boss in the morning – that was the company boat.
First call is to the police to report that the boat was stolen.
You’ve done this before, haven’t you?
Kingy said:
First call is to the police to report that the boat was stolen.
It was also flying, that’s got to be against the law.
Spiny Norman said:
This bloke got it right at least.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JJrdhLTMDZU
Neatly done. I couldn’t do it – but then, i always liked at least 6 fathoms under the keel.
I’m sure that the Roylances were one of a number of crews who navigated the course without incident that night.
But, which boat is it that everyone remembers and talks about?
Spiny Norman said:
Kingy said:First call is to the police to report that the boat was stolen.
It was also flying, that’s got to be against the law.
Yes. Like helicopters have to ‘taxi’, because ground controllers aren’t allowed to manage anything that’s flying.
captain_spalding said:
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:The real problem will be to explain what happened to the boss in the morning – that was the company boat.
First call is to the police to report that the boat was stolen.
You’ve done this before, haven’t you?
No, it was a friend… yeah, that’s right, it was a mate. No, wait.. it was an ex-mate. The bastard wouldn’t bail me, …I mean himself, out.
I had the sound down on the crash video. Was that first bloke on the scene a tow-truck driver?
captain_spalding said:
I had the sound down on the crash video. Was that first bloke on the scene a tow-truck driver?
captain_spalding said:
I had the sound down on the crash video. Was that first bloke on the scene a tow-truck driver?
And it wasn’t him that “spilt” the oil on the corner either.
A mate of mine had a big one at Lakeside recently.
The HANS device saved his life.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBWvUvVgWVA&feature=player_embedded
Data logging showed something like a 52 g stop.
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:
I had the sound down on the crash video. Was that first bloke on the scene a tow-truck driver?
And it wasn’t him that “spilt” the oil on the corner either.
Spiny Norman said:
A mate of mine had a big one at Lakeside recently.
The HANS device saved his life.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BBWvUvVgWVA&feature=player_embedded
Data logging showed something like a 52 g stop.
Yow! That’s a heck of a prang.
What was the red car doing there, anyway? Breakdown from an earlier race, or just some unlucky track marshal’s ride?
I think we all know what was going through your mate’s mind – “No, i can’t hit the red car. No. Not on. No. Only bloody car for miles, and mine’s getting drawn to it like it’s a magnet. No.’
captain_spalding said:
Yow! That’s a heck of a prang.What was the red car doing there, anyway? Breakdown from an earlier race, or just some unlucky track marshal’s ride?
I think we all know what was going through your mate’s mind – “No, i can’t hit the red car. No. Not on. No. Only bloody car for miles, and mine’s getting drawn to it like it’s a magnet. No.’
Yes it broke down on the out-lap and dumped some oil onto the track as well.
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:
Yow! That’s a heck of a prang.What was the red car doing there, anyway? Breakdown from an earlier race, or just some unlucky track marshal’s ride?
I think we all know what was going through your mate’s mind – “No, i can’t hit the red car. No. Not on. No. Only bloody car for miles, and mine’s getting drawn to it like it’s a magnet. No.’
Yes it broke down on the out-lap and dumped some oil onto the track as well.
52 g.
Let’s all have HANS.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:
Yow! That’s a heck of a prang.What was the red car doing there, anyway? Breakdown from an earlier race, or just some unlucky track marshal’s ride?
I think we all know what was going through your mate’s mind – “No, i can’t hit the red car. No. Not on. No. Only bloody car for miles, and mine’s getting drawn to it like it’s a magnet. No.’
Yes it broke down on the out-lap and dumped some oil onto the track as well.
52 g.
Let’s all have HANS.
I certainly do now.
The 30 g-odd stop I had when I didn’t have a HANS certainly did more than enough damage to me.
captain_spalding said:
Spiny Norman said:
captain_spalding said:
Yow! That’s a heck of a prang.What was the red car doing there, anyway? Breakdown from an earlier race, or just some unlucky track marshal’s ride?
I think we all know what was going through your mate’s mind – “No, i can’t hit the red car. No. Not on. No. Only bloody car for miles, and mine’s getting drawn to it like it’s a magnet. No.’
Yes it broke down on the out-lap and dumped some oil onto the track as well.
52 g.
Let’s all have HANS.
Surely the courses themselves are designed to be dangerous.
Bubblecar said:
Surely the courses themselves are designed to be dangerous.
Nope. The danger is inherent, the courses are designed to be difficult.
Kingy said:
Nope. The danger is inherent, the courses are designed to be difficult.
Looks like they would be a bugger to remember the correct route on.
Bubblecar said:
Surely the courses themselves are designed to be dangerous.
Must be difficult to learn the course. Seemed like a random pathway to me.
Spiny Norman said:
Data logging showed something like a 52 g stop.
Nasty.
I think 100g is the benchmark for lethal, FWIW, because that’s the point where the internal organs start to rip away and fill the torso with blood.
Bubblecar said:
Surely the courses themselves are designed to be dangerous.
The whole sport is intended to be dangerous.
If it didn’t exist, and i came to you and said, lets put honking great V8 engines on lightweight flat bottomed boats, and then flood a convoluted course in a paddock with about two inches of water and see who can drive the boats around it the fastest, you be on the phone to ‘the authorities’ before i could draw my next breath.
>Nope. The danger is inherent, the courses are designed to be difficult.
I see, so if you’re doing something inherently dangerous and the course is designed to be difficult, then the course is designed to be extra-dangerous.
I’m not complaining – afaic consenting adults are free to indulge themselves in these ways if they must :)
But let’s not pretend it’s some cruel unforeseen tragedy when they end up killing thelmselves.
>Nope. The danger is inherent, the courses are designed to be difficult.
I see, so if you’re doing something inherently dangerous and the course is designed to be difficult, then the course is designed to be extra-dangerous.
I’m not complaining – afaic consenting adults are free to indulge themselves in these ways if they must :)
But let’s not pretend it’s some cruel unforeseen tragedy when they end up killing thelmselves.
thelmselves = themselves :)
Double post was due to the forum dropping out of my internet.
Bubblecar said:
Double post was due to the forum dropping out of my internet.
Not just your internet.
>If it didn’t exist, and i came to you and said, lets put honking great V8 engines on lightweight flat bottomed boats, and then flood a convoluted course in a paddock with about two inches of water and see who can drive the boats around it the fastest, you be on the phone to ‘the authorities’ before i could draw my next breath.
No, I’d be saying “fine, do your thing, but don’t pretend it’s some cruel unforeseen tragedy when these people end up killing themselves”.
party_pants said:
Bubblecar said:Double post was due to the forum dropping out of my internet.
Not just your internet.
Bubblecar said:
>Nope. The danger is inherent, the courses are designed to be difficult.I see, so if you’re doing something inherently dangerous and the course is designed to be difficult, then the course is designed to be extra-dangerous.
I’m not complaining – afaic consenting adults are free to indulge themselves in these ways if they must :)
But let’s not pretend it’s some cruel unforeseen tragedy when they end up killing thelmselves.
One of the issues is that some of us make a living out of inherently dangerous jobs. With lethal consequences when it goes wrong. We know and understand this. We know that we are going to die anyway, so we challenge the universe to kill us while we are having fun instead.
Fuck you universe. Kiss my arse.
Bubblecar said:
No, I’d be saying “fine, do your thing, but don’t pretend it’s some cruel unforeseen tragedy when these people end up killing themselves”.
I feel a bit the same when so-called current affairs shows on TV interview couples who have 12 or 15 kids,and marvel at how the family copes, holding them up as some sort of heroes.
I think they’re dills. No-one HAS to breed their own Rugby team these days, no-one pointed guns at those people and said ‘procreate or else’.
Children. Medical science has now worked out what causes them, y’know.
>We know that we are going to die anyway, so we challenge the universe to kill us while we are having fun instead.
Fine, as long as you don’t complain about the drinkers & smokers etc. Who are taking far fewer risks than the racing chappies.
Bubblecar said:
>We know that we are going to die anyway, so we challenge the universe to kill us while we are having fun instead.Fine, as long as you don’t complain about the drinkers & smokers etc. Who are taking far fewer risks than the racing chappies.
We have a legit reason to complain about those who choose to attempt suicide using our tax dollars.
Kingy said:
…so we challenge the universe to kill us while we are having fun instead.
Well, that’s a point of view as reasonable as any other.
The annoying thing is that the universe so often sidles in between the kill/not kill dichotomy, and inserts ‘mangle horribly, and leave crippled and in pain for decades’. Sneaky little bugger, fate.
Kingy said:
We have a legit reason to complain about those who choose to attempt suicide using our tax dollars.
?
Surely the quicker they’re dead the easier it is on your purse.
Bubblecar said:
Surely the quicker they’re dead the easier it is on your purse.
But, the paperwork…
>But, the paperwork…
Hmm, I don’t think Kingy’s a paperwork type. He’s a man of action.
I think it’s time for bed and book.
Goodnight, peace to all, and my advice to jet-boat drivers everywhere: avoid the green features.
captain_spalding said:
I think it’s time for bed and book.Goodnight, peace to all, and my advice to jet-boat drivers everywhere: avoid the green features.
I have a suspicion that naval types tend to not mind “shipping ‘em green” but do try to avoid navving into radar returns.
And they also get jealous of those who can change course 37 times a minute.
:)
Stealth said:
Kingy said:
captain_spalding said:
I had the sound down on the crash video. Was that first bloke on the scene a tow-truck driver?
And it wasn’t him that “spilt” the oil on the corner either.
I think you will find that it was a little bit of water on the corner. There is a video on the web of this bloke going waaaaaaaay of track after finding a tiny bit of water on a corner, which he claims wasn’t there the lap before. I will see if I can find it…..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqtuc5ESFOw
Stealth said:
Stealth said:
Kingy said:And it wasn’t him that “spilt” the oil on the corner either.
I think you will find that it was a little bit of water on the corner. There is a video on the web of this bloke going waaaaaaaay of track after finding a tiny bit of water on a corner, which he claims wasn’t there the lap before. I will see if I can find it…..
Found it, what a poor excuse for bad driving…http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wqtuc5ESFOw
I reckon it was a good excuse for poor driving.
captain_spalding said:
The whole sport is intended to be dangerous.
Utter rubbish sorry.
It’s designed to be mostly challenging for the crews and equipment, and then be entertaining for the spectators. They put a lot of work into getting the safety gear as good as they can for the crews and boats. For sure it’s always going to be far from perfectly safe due to the nature of motorsport though – “The price of man in motion is the occasional collision”, Carroll Smith.
http://books.google.com.au/books?id=A81HmmRCN7YC&pg=PA5&lpg=PA5&dq=The+price+of+man+in+motion+is+the+occasional+collision&source=bl&ots=ZwoKyGyBPq&sig=ICHrB7vy1WxI8sLVHv25Wgj-VJk&hl=en&sa=X&ei=Buh-UYzGL6z1iQfcmYCYCA&ved=0CDMQ6AEwAA#v=onepage&q=The%20price%20of%20man%20in%20motion%20is%20the%20occasional%20collision&f=false
Speeding boats in puddles is even sillier than speeding cars in deepish bodies of water.
:)
over steer?