Date: 4/05/2013 20:40:28
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305798
Subject: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h
http://www.gizmag.com/road-laser-scanner/27345/

imagine combining this technology with on screen display technology projected onto your windscreen to highlight where the pot holes are

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Date: 4/05/2013 20:56:35
From: captain_spalding
ID: 305805
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

CrazyNeutrino said:

Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h
http://www.gizmag.com/road-laser-scanner/27345/

imagine combining this technology with on screen display technology projected onto your windscreen to highlight where the pot holes are

Oh, i can imagine – every other car on the road weaving a complicated zig-zag to try to avoid the next four or five potholes.

Just because something can be done doesn’t make it a good idea to do it.

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Date: 4/05/2013 20:58:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 305807
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

> imagine combining this technology with on screen display technology projected onto your windscreen to highlight where the pot holes are

I can remember a story where some students fitted a laser onto the bottom of a remote-control vehicle and read out the results for vehicle movement using that same software that is normally used to read the movement of an optical mouse. Brilliant.

I’m pretty sure that CSIRO used laser scanning of roads to observe road surface quality some ten or so years ago. But I doubt that it was done at 100 km/hr.

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Date: 4/05/2013 21:19:43
From: Speedy
ID: 305813
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

mollwollfumble said:


I’m pretty sure that CSIRO used laser scanning of roads to observe road surface quality some ten or so years ago. But I doubt that it was done at 100 km/hr.

Yes. I have actually seen a surface scanning vehicle in use on the freeway and would guess that it was travelling at close to 100km/h at the time. However, the article states:

it has proven cheaper, faster and more accurate than existing systems which require hefty attachments to the carrier vehicle

so perhaps it is a different technology being used here.

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Date: 4/05/2013 21:35:56
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305815
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

captain_spalding said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h
http://www.gizmag.com/road-laser-scanner/27345/

imagine combining this technology with on screen display technology projected onto your windscreen to highlight where the pot holes are

Oh, i can imagine – every other car on the road weaving a complicated zig-zag to try to avoid the next four or five potholes.

Just because something can be done doesn’t make it a good idea to do it.

>>>
Just because something can be done doesn’t make it a good idea to do it.

like cruise control ? traction control, fatigue alerts etc

stop driving then

I hate potholes
it does not take much to avoid a pothole, beside that its normally up to driver discretion
Potholes are a bugger to see and are driving hazzards

you wont like these cars then

Autonomous car
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Autonomous_car

Self-Driving Cars Will Take Over By 2040
http://www.forbes.com/sites/eco-nomics/2012/09/25/self-driving-cars-will-take-over-by-2040/

20 cars that drive themselves
http://www.itworld.com/it-consumerization/305090/20-cars-drive-themselves

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:02:14
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305819
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

sorry to snap at you captain_spalding

a lot of these devices do go through a testing phase

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:02:36
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305820
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

Study Shows Electronic Driver Aids Mostly Help, Occasionally Hurt
http://www.wired.com/autopia/2012/07/iihs-driver-aid-study/

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:22:22
From: buffy
ID: 305822
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

>>I hate potholes
it does not take much to avoid a pothole, beside that its normally up to driver discretion
Potholes are a bugger to see and are driving hazzards<<

Don’t move to this district then. One of them buggers bent a wheel and busted a tyre for me about 3 weeks ago. Another one stole one of my wheel covers some years ago and despite going back and wandering around the long paddock for some time (in trepidation of the snakes living thereon) I didn’t find it. Even our highway here is single (narrow) lane in each direction, so knowing where the potholes are is no use if there is a B double heading towards you. You can only slow down and go through the dip a bit slower usually.

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:22:26
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305823
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

if it works then no problem

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:22:59
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305824
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

in theory you could use the same system of a night to stop hitting the kangaroos and the like on the road

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:24:38
From: buffy
ID: 305825
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

>>in theory you could use the same system of a night to stop hitting the kangaroos and the like on the road<<

You’ve not known many kangaroos, have you wookie. They don’t just sit there. They sit off the road and then jump in front of you. Or into the side of your car.

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:29:02
From: roughbarked
ID: 305828
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

buffy said:

>>in theory you could use the same system of a night to stop hitting the kangaroos and the like on the road<<

You’ve not known many kangaroos, have you wookie. They don’t just sit there. They sit off the road and then jump in front of you. Or into the side of your car.

mm Yes. Even a laser shooting a hole in the kangaroo’s head isn’t going to stop it hitting the car if that’s where it was heading.

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:29:17
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305829
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

buffy said:

>>in theory you could use the same system of a night to stop hitting the kangaroos and the like on the road<<

You’ve not known many kangaroos, have you wookie. They don’t just sit there. They sit off the road and then jump in front of you. Or into the side of your car.


yes

but what you do is extend the idea and make it understand that its a moving object

a machine can think thousands of times faster than the human brain.

a machine could detect the kangaroo, understand its moving (and take evasive action) all in the blink of an eye

you might have the car slow and some vibration come through the steering wheel to indicate the hazard

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:32:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 305831
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


buffy said:

>>in theory you could use the same system of a night to stop hitting the kangaroos and the like on the road<<

You’ve not known many kangaroos, have you wookie. They don’t just sit there. They sit off the road and then jump in front of you. Or into the side of your car.


yes

but what you do is extend the idea and make it understand that its a moving object

a machine can think thousands of times faster than the human brain.

a machine could detect the kangaroo, understand its moving (and take evasive action) all in the blink of an eye

you might have the car slow and some vibration come through the steering wheel to indicate the hazard

Cars taking evasive action from kangaroos usually end up upside down.

The best the laser can do is keep the car at 60 kmph or less. Even then the kangaroo can still jump over the laser beam and through the windscreen.
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Date: 4/05/2013 22:33:44
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305832
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

the brain senses the kangaroo well down the road

it then makes a calculation as to where it is and slows the vehicle

it might sense if theres a car behind it to allow the driver behind to react

one of my previous suggestions is that we have throwaway cars that are only meant to last for 5 years (you buy a car at the supermarket)

the cars on the road are then always up to date rather than ticking time bombs on wheels

smart cars would talk to each other and would slow when a kangaroo was detected. the car behind would be told that the car up front was slowing for a hazard.

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:34:36
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305833
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

buffy said:

>>in theory you could use the same system of a night to stop hitting the kangaroos and the like on the road<<

You’ve not known many kangaroos, have you wookie. They don’t just sit there. They sit off the road and then jump in front of you. Or into the side of your car.


yes

but what you do is extend the idea and make it understand that its a moving object

a machine can think thousands of times faster than the human brain.

a machine could detect the kangaroo, understand its moving (and take evasive action) all in the blink of an eye

you might have the car slow and some vibration come through the steering wheel to indicate the hazard

Cars taking evasive action from kangaroos usually end up upside down.

The best the laser can do is keep the car at 60 kmph or less. Even then the kangaroo can still jump over the laser beam and through the windscreen.
the car would slow and the brain of the car would make those decisions
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Date: 4/05/2013 22:34:40
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305835
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

buffy said:

>>I hate potholes
it does not take much to avoid a pothole, beside that its normally up to driver discretion
Potholes are a bugger to see and are driving hazzards<<

Don’t move to this district then. One of them buggers bent a wheel and busted a tyre for me about 3 weeks ago. Another one stole one of my wheel covers some years ago and despite going back and wandering around the long paddock for some time (in trepidation of the snakes living thereon) I didn’t find it. Even our highway here is single (narrow) lane in each direction, so knowing where the potholes are is no use if there is a B double heading towards you. You can only slow down and go through the dip a bit slower usually.

Im living in Country Victoria, Ballarat, lots of potties round ere

kangaroos and other wildlife as well

perhaps lasers and infrared can be used to detect kangaroos coming in from the sides and avoid them without causing danger to other vehicles etc

seen plenty of road kill

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:35:34
From: buffy
ID: 305836
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

Think the laser might need to be able to read kangaroo brainwaves………

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:35:37
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 305837
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

> They sit off the road and then jump in front of you. Or into the side of your car.

I’ve known one driver to insist that an old age pensioner on a walking frame did that, jumped into the side of his car. You’ve gotta slow down in dangerous situations.

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:36:00
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305838
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


if it works then no problem

well its useless if it doesn’t work,

thats where innovation comes in

or something different etc

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:36:43
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305839
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


in theory you could use the same system of a night to stop hitting the kangaroos and the like on the road

you beat me to it Wookie

:)

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:38:33
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305840
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

CrazyNeutrino said:


buffy said:

>>I hate potholes
it does not take much to avoid a pothole, beside that its normally up to driver discretion
Potholes are a bugger to see and are driving hazzards<<

Don’t move to this district then. One of them buggers bent a wheel and busted a tyre for me about 3 weeks ago. Another one stole one of my wheel covers some years ago and despite going back and wandering around the long paddock for some time (in trepidation of the snakes living thereon) I didn’t find it. Even our highway here is single (narrow) lane in each direction, so knowing where the potholes are is no use if there is a B double heading towards you. You can only slow down and go through the dip a bit slower usually.

Im living in Country Victoria, Ballarat, lots of potties round ere

kangaroos and other wildlife as well

perhaps lasers and infrared can be used to detect kangaroos coming in from the sides and avoid them without causing danger to other vehicles etc

seen plenty of road kill


right

by building throwaway cars you quickly replace all rust buckets that aren’t modern enough, they are cheaper and carry the latest technology

you’ll find less accidents with the better technology because you could take the decisions that needed to be taken removed from the driver. less accidents means less justification for expensive insurance

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:38:33
From: buffy
ID: 305841
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

My scariest drive ever was through the stones here in Penshurst when I lived further South. It was dark. It was drizzling. I knew I was in swamp wallaby country – they are black/brown hard to see critters. And I had a semi sitting on my tail because I was doing 80km/hr in the section the wallabies are worst. I remember deciding that should one jump out in front of me I would be dead (under the truck) and that there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. I recall a feeling of resignation.

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:39:35
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305842
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

mollwollfumble said:


> They sit off the road and then jump in front of you. Or into the side of your car.

I’ve known one driver to insist that an old age pensioner on a walking frame did that, jumped into the side of his car. You’ve gotta slow down in dangerous situations.


right

if you see animals, children or anyone or anything close to the road you normally touch the brakes well in advance as they or it might go into the road at the last moment

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:39:36
From: buffy
ID: 305843
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

But I want to drive my car. I don’t want my car to drive me.

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:41:43
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305845
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

buffy said:

My scariest drive ever was through the stones here in Penshurst when I lived further South. It was dark. It was drizzling. I knew I was in swamp wallaby country – they are black/brown hard to see critters. And I had a semi sitting on my tail because I was doing 80km/hr in the section the wallabies are worst. I remember deciding that should one jump out in front of me I would be dead (under the truck) and that there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. I recall a feeling of resignation.


you build this system into trucks systems so the truck talks to the car

it takes the control away from the idiot behind the wheel in the truck

you could eventually remove the idiot from the truck and just have an autonomous vehicle on some dedicated routes that have been mapped. the autonomous truck doesn’t need to stop for rest breaks

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:42:20
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305846
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

buffy said:

But I want to drive my car. I don’t want my car to drive me.


anyone who has t drive great distances would welcome the technology

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:43:12
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305847
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

buffy said:

But I want to drive my car. I don’t want my car to drive me.

do you have cruize control ?

people feared that when it first appeared

no big deal now

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:43:17
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305848
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

in the future most freight might well travel by rail

its wasteful in energy moving it by road

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:44:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 305849
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


buffy said:

But I want to drive my car. I don’t want my car to drive me.


anyone who has t drive great distances would welcome the technology

Hmm not really. Why would they drive long distances when they don’t have to?

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:44:27
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305850
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

>>>>You’ve not known many kangaroos, have you wookie. They don’t just sit there. They sit off the road and then jump in front of you. Or into the side of your car.

infrared technology for that

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:44:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 305851
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


in the future most freight might well travel by rail

its wasteful in energy moving it by road

That should have always been the truth. The problem is the fact that it isn’t.

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:47:37
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305852
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

buffy said:

But I want to drive my car. I don’t want my car to drive me.


anyone who has t drive great distances would welcome the technology

Hmm not really. Why would they drive long distances when they don’t have to?


work

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:51:47
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305853
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

in the future most freight might well travel by rail

its wasteful in energy moving it by road

That should have always been the truth. The problem is the fact that it isn’t.


by rights you’d have an evacuated tube and the trains move in the vaccum

removing the moving parts of the train like the wheels is important

after examining a working locomotive and looked at what maintenance was required I discovered that wheels on tracks is very expensive and time consuming

its a positive feed back, the wheels damage the track, then the track damages the wheels. then you’ve got the down time whilst the wheels get changed out

you need magna lev/ floating trains.

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Date: 4/05/2013 22:59:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 305854
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

anyone who has t drive great distances would welcome the technology

Hmm not really. Why would they drive long distances when they don’t have to?


work

FIFO, these days.

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Date: 4/05/2013 23:01:10
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305855
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

Hmm not really. Why would they drive long distances when they don’t have to?


work

FIFO, these days.


mines maybe

unfortunately if you are travelling around with tools its not an option and its just about lugging parts and tools around

there are plenty of jobs out there where you are fucked around being made to drive great distances

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Date: 4/05/2013 23:01:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 305856
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

in the future most freight might well travel by rail

its wasteful in energy moving it by road

That should have always been the truth. The problem is the fact that it isn’t.


by rights you’d have an evacuated tube and the trains move in the vaccum

removing the moving parts of the train like the wheels is important

after examining a working locomotive and looked at what maintenance was required I discovered that wheels on tracks is very expensive and time consuming

its a positive feed back, the wheels damage the track, then the track damages the wheels. then you’ve got the down time whilst the wheels get changed out

you need magna lev/ floating trains.

Perhaps that should read; We need floating trains.

Because I don’t really need them as such at this point in time. Though I would admit that I’d be happier if all freight just floated from there to here.
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Date: 4/05/2013 23:02:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 305857
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

work

FIFO, these days.


mines maybe

unfortunately if you are travelling around with tools its not an option and its just about lugging parts and tools around

there are plenty of jobs out there where you are fucked around being made to drive great distances

If the customer is paying, anything is possible.

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Date: 4/05/2013 23:11:26
From: jjjust moi
ID: 305858
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

work

FIFO, these days.


mines maybe

unfortunately if you are travelling around with tools its not an option and its just about lugging parts and tools around

there are plenty of jobs out there where you are fucked around being made to drive great distances


40 Minutes is duty of care rules in WA.

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Date: 4/05/2013 23:16:32
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305859
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

FIFO, these days.


mines maybe

unfortunately if you are travelling around with tools its not an option and its just about lugging parts and tools around

there are plenty of jobs out there where you are fucked around being made to drive great distances

If the customer is paying, anything is possible.


service techs are like fuses, you just burn them out and get another, it doesn’t matter if they drive great distances.

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Date: 4/05/2013 23:18:52
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305860
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

jjjust moi said:


wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

FIFO, these days.


mines maybe

unfortunately if you are travelling around with tools its not an option and its just about lugging parts and tools around

there are plenty of jobs out there where you are fucked around being made to drive great distances


40 Minutes is duty of care rules in WA.


yes nice in theory, in practice it doesn’t exist

in the NBN for example people are drilling through asbestos, no mask, no responsibility no nothing. the laws to protect people don’t exist in reality only the paperwork to say otherwise.

its why people were dying in the house insulation scheme – the risk assessments were perfect the only problem no one was following them.

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Date: 4/05/2013 23:19:44
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305861
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

anyone working in the trades are expendable people anyway

you are just ducking and diving between being killed or injured

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:03:05
From: fsm
ID: 305862
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


buffy said:

My scariest drive ever was through the stones here in Penshurst when I lived further South. It was dark. It was drizzling. I knew I was in swamp wallaby country – they are black/brown hard to see critters. And I had a semi sitting on my tail because I was doing 80km/hr in the section the wallabies are worst. I remember deciding that should one jump out in front of me I would be dead (under the truck) and that there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. I recall a feeling of resignation.


you build this system into trucks systems so the truck talks to the car

it takes the control away from the idiot behind the wheel in the truck

you could eventually remove the idiot from the truck and just have an autonomous vehicle on some dedicated routes that have been mapped. the autonomous truck doesn’t need to stop for rest breaks

Truck drivers are professional drivers, not idiots. The idiots are the car drivers that do not appreciate the requirements of trucks with regards to stopping distances.

Regardless of the fears of the car driver, the truck driver would not intentionally put either vehicle at risk.

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:12:53
From: Boris
ID: 305863
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

so have we a thread of useless advice on how to improve everything and that everyone else is stupid or an idiot from our resident “expert”?

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:18:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 305864
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

Boris said:


so have we a thread of useless advice on how to improve everything and that everyone else is stupid or an idiot from our resident “expert”?

As it would appear.

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:22:50
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305865
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

fsm said:


wookiemeister said:

buffy said:

My scariest drive ever was through the stones here in Penshurst when I lived further South. It was dark. It was drizzling. I knew I was in swamp wallaby country – they are black/brown hard to see critters. And I had a semi sitting on my tail because I was doing 80km/hr in the section the wallabies are worst. I remember deciding that should one jump out in front of me I would be dead (under the truck) and that there was absolutely nothing I could do about it. I recall a feeling of resignation.


you build this system into trucks systems so the truck talks to the car

it takes the control away from the idiot behind the wheel in the truck

you could eventually remove the idiot from the truck and just have an autonomous vehicle on some dedicated routes that have been mapped. the autonomous truck doesn’t need to stop for rest breaks

Truck drivers are professional drivers, not idiots. The idiots are the car drivers that do not appreciate the requirements of trucks with regards to stopping distances.

Regardless of the fears of the car driver, the truck driver would not intentionally put either vehicle at risk.


truck drivers are people that drive trucks, the professional element to what they do is left to the discretion of the individual

I’ve seen one fellah throwing handfuls of stones at a motorcyclist

another truck driver killed the bloke in the car behind me and nearly wiped me out too

the sooner we take people out of the drivers cab on long distance routine trips the better, I think humans can do better jobs than this sort of thing

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:26:39
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305866
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

Boris said:


so have we a thread of useless advice on how to improve everything and that everyone else is stupid or an idiot from our resident “expert”?


it doesn’t really concern me

with boris safely at the helm of “commonsense” that prevails we can look forward to more of the same thing

for me its business as usual , I see stupid things all the time, with no power to change things I merely comment on them and continue. I understand that human thinking doesn’t change much, its why people get killed all the time, why nuclear powerstations continue to blow up, aircraft come crashing down etc etc.

in the meantime I just take the money and do what I can do to stay alive without the idiot killing me.

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:29:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 305867
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


fsm said:

wookiemeister said:

you build this system into trucks systems so the truck talks to the car

it takes the control away from the idiot behind the wheel in the truck

you could eventually remove the idiot from the truck and just have an autonomous vehicle on some dedicated routes that have been mapped. the autonomous truck doesn’t need to stop for rest breaks

Truck drivers are professional drivers, not idiots. The idiots are the car drivers that do not appreciate the requirements of trucks with regards to stopping distances.

Regardless of the fears of the car driver, the truck driver would not intentionally put either vehicle at risk.


truck drivers are people that drive trucks, the professional element to what they do is left to the discretion of the individual

I’ve seen one fellah throwing handfuls of stones at a motorcyclist

another truck driver killed the bloke in the car behind me and nearly wiped me out too

the sooner we take people out of the drivers cab on long distance routine trips the better, I think humans can do better jobs than this sort of thing

Whilst it is true that trucks should either have their own roads or be converted back to trains for the large part, we have had these discussions before and it simply isn’t practical to have rail to the door of every house in the street. The people who drive trucks do it for a living and hence are professional.
Whilst I’m not suggesting I believe the story about truck drivers throwing handfuls of stones at other drivers, it is true that some people drop bricks off overpasses but does that mean we should remove all overpasses?

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:30:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 305868
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:

I just take the money and do what I can do to stay alive without the idiot killing me.

stop working for the mafia.

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:33:11
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305869
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

of course

you could always just maintain the roads so potholes don’t exist but this doesn’t really fire the imagination

we don’t build roads over here to any real standard that works in real life, as it was related to me they make too much money from making sure the roads will fail to ensure that work is always to be found on them.

I asked couldn’t you just not involve the problem children that build silly roads and was told that it was too easy to sabotage the road and they would bribe someone enough money for them to sabotage the road building process

its amazing what you learn when you just ask people

I have this uncanny knack of seemingly finding people who just tell me the honest truth and have enough experience to know what they are talking about

you may now return to your normal viewing

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:37:16
From: fsm
ID: 305870
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


another truck driver killed the bloke in the car behind me and nearly wiped me out too

the sooner we take people out of the drivers cab on long distance routine trips the better, I think humans can do better jobs than this sort of thing

A truck was involved in an accident that resulted in the death of the driver behind you and you believe that the truck driver intended to kill you as well. This type of thinking is described as paranoia.

When a car collides with a truck, the truck driver has a much greater chance of survival due to the difference in mass of the two vehicles.

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:38:25
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305871
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

fsm said:

Truck drivers are professional drivers, not idiots. The idiots are the car drivers that do not appreciate the requirements of trucks with regards to stopping distances.

Regardless of the fears of the car driver, the truck driver would not intentionally put either vehicle at risk.


truck drivers are people that drive trucks, the professional element to what they do is left to the discretion of the individual

I’ve seen one fellah throwing handfuls of stones at a motorcyclist

another truck driver killed the bloke in the car behind me and nearly wiped me out too

the sooner we take people out of the drivers cab on long distance routine trips the better, I think humans can do better jobs than this sort of thing

Whilst it is true that trucks should either have their own roads or be converted back to trains for the large part, we have had these discussions before and it simply isn’t practical to have rail to the door of every house in the street. The people who drive trucks do it for a living and hence are professional.
Whilst I’m not suggesting I believe the story about truck drivers throwing handfuls of stones at other drivers, it is true that some people drop bricks off overpasses but does that mean we should remove all overpasses?


what I see as a practical way to deliver freight is to use the railways to move all long distance freight

the freight arrives at a station and is then delivered to its final destination by much smaller trucks that will travel much reduced distances

many years ago I worked in a warehouse that stored water – yes really!!

evian / volvic etc were being shipped into Britain by rail. the warehouse had its own station that allowed you to simply open the railcar and forklift the stuff out. after three days they asked me as a formality whether I had a forklift ticket. I told them no. I had been riding these special forklifts around for three days without any trouble and didn’t realise you needed a forklift ticket so I lost my job!!!

anyway the French realised that it was cheaper and easier to rail in all this water and by rail and then distribute it by smaller vehicles

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:40:33
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305872
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

fsm said:


wookiemeister said:

another truck driver killed the bloke in the car behind me and nearly wiped me out too

the sooner we take people out of the drivers cab on long distance routine trips the better, I think humans can do better jobs than this sort of thing

A truck was involved in an accident that resulted in the death of the driver behind you and you believe that the truck driver intended to kill you as well. This type of thinking is described as paranoia.

When a car collides with a truck, the truck driver has a much greater chance of survival due to the difference in mass of the two vehicles.


the bloke was asleep at the wheel. we had passed him going up a gentle hill, the next thing I knew 5 minutes later was the car was spinning around.

I didn’t have a scratch on me, no whiplash or anything. but then again, I was young and had decided to use my seat belt for the first time ever about 2 minutes before the crash.

after that I always used my seatbelt

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:42:35
From: roughbarked
ID: 305873
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:

what I see as a practical way to deliver freight is to use the railways to move all long distance freight

the freight arrives at a station and is then delivered to its final destination by much smaller trucks that will travel much reduced distances

many years ago I worked in a warehouse that stored water – yes really!!

evian / volvic etc were being shipped into Britain by rail. the warehouse had its own station that allowed you to simply open the railcar and forklift the stuff out. after three days they asked me as a formality whether I had a forklift ticket. I told them no. I had been riding these special forklifts around for three days without any trouble and didn’t realise you needed a forklift ticket so I lost my job!

Nothing unusual about rail freight being trucked away from railway stations. It is what has always happened. Many larger railway stations are now container terminals.

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:42:38
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305874
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2010-10-12/flood-proof-road-destroyed-in-deluge/2295348

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:44:01
From: wookiemeister
ID: 305875
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

roughbarked said:


wookiemeister said:

what I see as a practical way to deliver freight is to use the railways to move all long distance freight

the freight arrives at a station and is then delivered to its final destination by much smaller trucks that will travel much reduced distances

many years ago I worked in a warehouse that stored water – yes really!!

evian / volvic etc were being shipped into Britain by rail. the warehouse had its own station that allowed you to simply open the railcar and forklift the stuff out. after three days they asked me as a formality whether I had a forklift ticket. I told them no. I had been riding these special forklifts around for three days without any trouble and didn’t realise you needed a forklift ticket so I lost my job!

Nothing unusual about rail freight being trucked away from railway stations. It is what has always happened. Many larger railway stations are now container terminals.


as a general thought roughbarked

do you think society is organised very well?

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Date: 5/05/2013 00:48:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 305877
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

wookiemeister said:


roughbarked said:

wookiemeister said:

what I see as a practical way to deliver freight is to use the railways to move all long distance freight

the freight arrives at a station and is then delivered to its final destination by much smaller trucks that will travel much reduced distances

many years ago I worked in a warehouse that stored water – yes really!!

evian / volvic etc were being shipped into Britain by rail. the warehouse had its own station that allowed you to simply open the railcar and forklift the stuff out. after three days they asked me as a formality whether I had a forklift ticket. I told them no. I had been riding these special forklifts around for three days without any trouble and didn’t realise you needed a forklift ticket so I lost my job!

Nothing unusual about rail freight being trucked away from railway stations. It is what has always happened. Many larger railway stations are now container terminals.


as a general thought roughbarked

do you think society is organised very well?

I don’t know why you are asking me as I haven’t self-professed being a social engineer. I can say that I believe we have evolved thus far and can still evolve further.

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Date: 5/05/2013 08:39:10
From: buffy
ID: 305897
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

Ooh look this thread went on into the night.

>>do you have cruize control ?<<

I had a car with it some years ago and never used it. I’m happy to use my foot.

>>infrared technology for that<< (detecting kangaroos on side of road)

Still doesn’t read the roo’s mind.

>>anyone who has t drive great distances would welcome the technology<<

I do quite long distances each year. In the past 12 months I’ve done 87,000km. It’s a typical 12 months for me. For 18 years I did 120km per day getting to and from work. I’m a luddite though and am happy to be in control of my car.

>>Regardless of the fears of the car driver, the truck driver would not intentionally put either vehicle at risk.<<

Sorry, this one was an idiot and my fears were quite justified. Not all truckies are angels. I share these roads with the truckies all the time, and they don’t usually behave like that one.

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Date: 5/05/2013 08:43:09
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305898
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

>>>>>infrared technology for that<< (detecting kangaroos on side of road)
Still doesn’t read the roo’s mind.

true, but at least the driver would know roos ahead

but, like most of these driver aids, they can be turned on or off

to keep people happy

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Date: 5/05/2013 08:54:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 305899
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

buffy said:

Ooh look this thread went on into the night.

>>do you have cruize control ?<<

I had a car with it some years ago and never used it. I’m happy to use my foot.

>>infrared technology for that<< (detecting kangaroos on side of road)

Still doesn’t read the roo’s mind.

>>anyone who has t drive great distances would welcome the technology<<

I do quite long distances each year. In the past 12 months I’ve done 87,000km. It’s a typical 12 months for me. For 18 years I did 120km per day getting to and from work. I’m a luddite though and am happy to be in control of my car.

>>Regardless of the fears of the car driver, the truck driver would not intentionally put either vehicle at risk.<<

Sorry, this one was an idiot and my fears were quite justified. Not all truckies are angels. I share these roads with the truckies all the time, and they don’t usually behave like that one.

hear hear

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Date: 5/05/2013 09:08:26
From: buffy
ID: 305900
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

Ooh, I know they are there, but I can’t read their minds. That is the real problem with roos and wallabies, they are unpredictable.

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Date: 5/05/2013 09:15:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 305903
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

buffy said:

Ooh, I know they are there, but I can’t read their minds. That is the real problem with roos and wallabies, they are unpredictable.

Completely.. On another note.. You can buy shoo roo which only work at certain speeds but from my experience the two wind whistlers that are stuck on the car work admirably well. When you can see the roos you can see their ears pick it up and they take off away from the sound. At night when you can’t see the roos, that is exactly what you do. With the whistlers on I never see or meet kangaroos.

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Date: 5/05/2013 09:55:31
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305910
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

I love family gatherings
http://imgur.com/gallery/ZJzdM

Smile for the camera!
http://imgur.com/aYxHrYw?tags

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Date: 5/05/2013 10:03:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 305911
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

CrazyNeutrino said:


I love family gatherings
http://imgur.com/gallery/ZJzdM

Smile for the camera!
http://imgur.com/aYxHrYw?tags

Fred Wrong. ;)

this one is about automotive subjects..
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Date: 5/05/2013 10:14:27
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305913
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

yep, wrong thread

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Date: 5/05/2013 10:16:08
From: roughbarked
ID: 305914
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

CrazyNeutrino said:


yep, wrong thread

Did you wait until my photo loaded?

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Date: 5/05/2013 10:20:13
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 305919
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

yep, wrong thread

Did you wait until my photo loaded?

yes I saw that, I like those teardrop retro caravans

that one looks like a birdhouse

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Date: 5/05/2013 10:22:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 305922
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

CrazyNeutrino said:


roughbarked said:

CrazyNeutrino said:

yep, wrong thread

Did you wait until my photo loaded?

yes I saw that, I like those teardrop retro caravans

that one looks like a birdhouse

Yep. I know a bloke who makes these for sale.

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Date: 5/05/2013 10:29:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 305925
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

roughbarked said:


CrazyNeutrino said:

roughbarked said:

Did you wait until my photo loaded?

yes I saw that, I like those teardrop retro caravans

that one looks like a birdhouse

Yep. I know a bloke who makes these for sale.

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Date: 5/05/2013 18:51:17
From: dv
ID: 306279
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

Maybe better than avoiding the potholes, it can inform an active suspension system in order to let it deal with the potholes.

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Date: 5/05/2013 18:54:08
From: wookiemeister
ID: 306283
Subject: re: Compact laser system scans road surfaces at 100 km/h

dv said:


Maybe better than avoiding the potholes, it can inform an active suspension system in order to let it deal with the potholes.

maybe it could be linked to a more powerful laser that just blasts the potholes out of existence to make much smoother craters?

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