Date: 14/05/2013 08:58:54
From: Divine Angel
ID: 310528
Subject: Smoke Alarms

Last week, my smoke alarm kept going off for no reason. The house was closed up, I wasn’t cooking (it had been several hours since I had cooked) and there was nothing that should have set it off. (It was before the ceiling was replaced so no dust or anything could be the culprit. There’s also no fires nearby.) Anyway, I took it off the ceiling just because it was annoying.

But it’s a good idea to have a smoke alarm. I don’t know which kind I have. Which kind should I have?

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Date: 14/05/2013 09:02:02
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 310532
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

Divine Angel said:


Which kind should I have?

Probably the type you get a fireman in to install.

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Date: 14/05/2013 09:23:12
From: roughbarked
ID: 310537
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

Divine Angel said:


Last week, my smoke alarm kept going off for no reason. The house was closed up, I wasn’t cooking (it had been several hours since I had cooked) and there was nothing that should have set it off. (It was before the ceiling was replaced so no dust or anything could be the culprit. There’s also no fires nearby.) Anyway, I took it off the ceiling just because it was annoying.

But it’s a good idea to have a smoke alarm. I don’t know which kind I have. Which kind should I have?

Any smoke alarm is built to set standards so they should all be good. The constant beeping may be because the battery needs replacing.

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Date: 14/05/2013 09:24:40
From: poikilotherm
ID: 310538
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

Divine Angel said:


Last week, my smoke alarm kept going off for no reason. The house was closed up, I wasn’t cooking (it had been several hours since I had cooked) and there was nothing that should have set it off. (It was before the ceiling was replaced so no dust or anything could be the culprit. There’s also no fires nearby.) Anyway, I took it off the ceiling just because it was annoying.

But it’s a good idea to have a smoke alarm. I don’t know which kind I have. Which kind should I have?

The ones that are wired in the house. Not the $10 battery jobbies.

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Date: 14/05/2013 09:28:35
From: Geoff D
ID: 310540
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

roughbarked said:


Divine Angel said:

Last week, my smoke alarm kept going off for no reason. The house was closed up, I wasn’t cooking (it had been several hours since I had cooked) and there was nothing that should have set it off. (It was before the ceiling was replaced so no dust or anything could be the culprit. There’s also no fires nearby.) Anyway, I took it off the ceiling just because it was annoying.

But it’s a good idea to have a smoke alarm. I don’t know which kind I have. Which kind should I have?

Any smoke alarm is built to set standards so they should all be good. The constant beeping may be because the battery needs replacing.

Nope – both the ionisation and photoelectric types can go beserk for no apparent reason, even with fresh new batteries. Low battery beep is different from the full alarm – I know, I have one that drives me mad. Goes of on humid nights, or whenever it feels like it.

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Date: 14/05/2013 09:32:11
From: roughbarked
ID: 310541
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

Geoff D said:


roughbarked said:

Divine Angel said:

Last week, my smoke alarm kept going off for no reason. The house was closed up, I wasn’t cooking (it had been several hours since I had cooked) and there was nothing that should have set it off. (It was before the ceiling was replaced so no dust or anything could be the culprit. There’s also no fires nearby.) Anyway, I took it off the ceiling just because it was annoying.

But it’s a good idea to have a smoke alarm. I don’t know which kind I have. Which kind should I have?

Any smoke alarm is built to set standards so they should all be good. The constant beeping may be because the battery needs replacing.

Nope – both the ionisation and photoelectric types can go beserk for no apparent reason, even with fresh new batteries. Low battery beep is different from the full alarm – I know, I have one that drives me mad. Goes of on humid nights, or whenever it feels like it.

Haven’t yet experienced that. My el-cheapo sounds like I’ve got a cricket hiding behind all the cupboards until I change the battery. Otherwise it only goes off when I burn the toast.

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Date: 14/05/2013 09:56:42
From: Divine Angel
ID: 310544
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

roughbarked said:

Any smoke alarm is built to set standards so they should all be good. The constant beeping may be because the battery needs replacing.

Battery was replaced less than a month ago.

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Date: 14/05/2013 10:03:05
From: Divine Angel
ID: 310547
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

Riff-in-Thyme said:


Divine Angel said:

Which kind should I have?

Probably the type you get a fireman in to install.

Mmm firemen.

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Date: 14/05/2013 10:10:54
From: poikilotherm
ID: 310548
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

Divine Angel said:


Riff-in-Thyme said:

Divine Angel said:

Which kind should I have?

Probably the type you get a fireman in to install.

Mmm firemen.

http://eyeofthefish.org/wp-content/uploads/2009/12/fireman.jpg

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Date: 14/05/2013 10:13:11
From: Divine Angel
ID: 310549
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

:-/

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Date: 14/05/2013 10:36:19
From: Bubblecar
ID: 310553
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

I had one professionally installed recently. Brooks brand (made in Ireland, of all places) with a 10 year lithium battery and 5 year guarantee, so presumably pretty damn good.

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Date: 14/05/2013 10:39:44
From: roughbarked
ID: 310554
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

Divine Angel said:


roughbarked said:

Any smoke alarm is built to set standards so they should all be good. The constant beeping may be because the battery needs replacing.

Battery was replaced less than a month ago.

Batteries are not always new at purchase. Contacts are not always clean at refitting.

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Date: 14/05/2013 10:49:46
From: Bubblecar
ID: 310556
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

Bubblecar said:


I had one professionally installed recently. Brooks brand (made in Ireland, of all places) with a 10 year lithium battery and 5 year guarantee, so presumably pretty damn good.

This is a photoelectric alarm which is apparently more reliable than the ionization alarms:

Performance differences Photoelectric smoke detectors respond faster (typically 30 minutes or more) to fire in its early, smouldering stage (before it breaks into flame). The smoke from the smouldering stage of a fire is typically made up of large combustion particles — between 0.3 and 10.0 microns. Ionization smoke detectors respond faster (typically 30-60 seconds) in the flaming stage of a fire. The smoke from the flaming stage of a fire is typically made up of microscopic combustion particles — between 0.01 and 0.3 microns. Also, ionization detectors are weaker in high air-flow environments, and because of this, the photoelectric smoke detector is more reliable for detecting smoke in both the smoldering and flaming stages of a fire.

In June, 2006 the Australasian Fire & Emergency Service Authorities Council, the peak representative body for all Australian and New Zealand Fire Departments stated, “Ionization smoke alarms may not operate in time to alert occupants early enough to escape from smouldering fires.”

In December, 2011 the Volunteer Fire Fighter’s Association of Australia published a World Fire Safety Foundation report, ‘Ionization Smoke Alarms are DEADLY”, citing research outlining performance differences between ionization and photoelectric technology.

According to fire tests conformant to EN 54, the CO2 cloud from open fire can usually be detected before particulate.

Due to the varying levels of detection capabilities between detector types, manufacturers have designed multi-criteria devices which cross-reference the separate signals to both rule out false alarms and improve response times to real fires. Examples include Photo/heat, photo/CO, and even CO/photo/heat/IR.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Smoke_detector#Performance_differences

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Date: 14/05/2013 15:01:12
From: wookiemeister
ID: 310665
Subject: re: Smoke Alarms

Divine Angel said:


Last week, my smoke alarm kept going off for no reason. The house was closed up, I wasn’t cooking (it had been several hours since I had cooked) and there was nothing that should have set it off. (It was before the ceiling was replaced so no dust or anything could be the culprit. There’s also no fires nearby.) Anyway, I took it off the ceiling just because it was annoying.

But it’s a good idea to have a smoke alarm. I don’t know which kind I have. Which kind should I have?


change the battery

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