Date: 22/05/2013 12:39:28
From: morrie
ID: 314978
Subject: Alternatives to Flickr
Lots of people don’t like the new look Flickr, for different reasons. For me it mainly a bandwidth issue.
I have been looking at alternatives. If you find anything, please add a link.
These two are Flickr clones.
http://www.ipernity.com/
http://23hq.com/
Date: 22/05/2013 12:41:46
From: poikilotherm
ID: 314981
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Surgeons, so humble.
“I’m a bloody good surgeon and my results are fantastic”
Date: 22/05/2013 12:42:03
From: poikilotherm
ID: 314983
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
poikilotherm said:
Surgeons, so humble.
“I’m a bloody good surgeon and my results are fantastic”
cough
Date: 22/05/2013 18:18:56
From: Soso
ID: 315130
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_photo_sharing_websites
Date: 22/05/2013 19:26:26
From: morrie
ID: 315147
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
They seem to have fixed up some of the bugs with Flickr. It is useable now, but if you click on someone’s photostream you are up for between 10 and 20 megs of bandwidth each time. A trivial amount to some, but significant for me.
Date: 22/05/2013 22:44:44
From: morrie
ID: 315300
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
I just came on a simple fix to give the original photostream view in Flickr. Just add ?details=1 to the end of the url in the address bar. Like this bloke has done. Bingo, bandwidth down, original view restored.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/damoyoungsf/?details=1
Date: 22/05/2013 22:54:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 315306
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Thanks morrie. That’s an improvement.
Date: 22/05/2013 23:10:58
From: morrie
ID: 315327
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
Thanks morrie. That’s an improvement.
Damo is the guy to thank (except his comment on the blog is closed to replies).
As a work around for the moment I find that I can mouse over the photostream option that shows as a drop down on someone’s avatar, then right click to get properties and then copy and paste into notepad to add the extra text, then paste that into the address bar.
You will see that the page has some gliches, but at least it allows you to browse someone’s photostream without being overwhelmed. I hope they don’t close down the option.
Date: 22/05/2013 23:18:52
From: roughbarked
ID: 315332
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
morrie said:
roughbarked said:
Thanks morrie. That’s an improvement.
Damo is the guy to thank (except his comment on the blog is closed to replies).
As a work around for the moment I find that I can mouse over the photostream option that shows as a drop down on someone’s avatar, then right click to get properties and then copy and paste into notepad to add the extra text, then paste that into the address bar.
You will see that the page has some gliches, but at least it allows you to browse someone’s photostream without being overwhelmed. I hope they don’t close down the option.
If they don’t fix it they will be getting an email from me demanding a refund.
Date: 22/05/2013 23:24:03
From: morrie
ID: 315335
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
morrie said:
roughbarked said:
Thanks morrie. That’s an improvement.
Damo is the guy to thank (except his comment on the blog is closed to replies).
As a work around for the moment I find that I can mouse over the photostream option that shows as a drop down on someone’s avatar, then right click to get properties and then copy and paste into notepad to add the extra text, then paste that into the address bar.
You will see that the page has some gliches, but at least it allows you to browse someone’s photostream without being overwhelmed. I hope they don’t close down the option.
If they don’t fix it they will be getting an email from me demanding a refund.
You and thousands of others.
Here is another example of a workaround, this time accessing specific page of a set in the old format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tavruday/sets/72157626614520344/detail/?page=62
Date: 23/05/2013 00:31:25
From: Kingy
ID: 315373
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
I’m using imgur.com
Low bandwidth, easy to use.
Date: 23/05/2013 00:39:18
From: morrie
ID: 315380
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Kingy said:
I’m using imgur.com
Low bandwidth, easy to use.
So am I, for posting pics here and similar. Photobucket has a low bandwidth view too so I still use that. 23 is simple too.
There are plenty of photo hosts, but Flickr goes a little beyond that. There is a community aspect to Flickr. And there are some very pissed off people in that community. However, they do seem to be fixing some of the worst aspects of the initial changes.
Date: 23/05/2013 07:50:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 315402
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Well I did something that probably won’t be noticed unless everyone who feels the same way goes down the same route.. I used the report abuse button and reported Flickr for abusing this user.
Date: 23/05/2013 08:28:14
From: Geoff D
ID: 315405
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
Well I did something that probably won’t be noticed unless everyone who feels the same way goes down the same route.. I used the report abuse button and reported Flickr for abusing this user.
It would be my guess that the flickr web page designers would be astounded at the poor internet service you suffer, roughy.
Date: 23/05/2013 08:33:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 315406
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Geoff D said:
roughbarked said:
Well I did something that probably won’t be noticed unless everyone who feels the same way goes down the same route.. I used the report abuse button and reported Flickr for abusing this user.
It would be my guess that the flickr web page designers would be astounded at the poor internet service you suffer, roughy.
Yeah, that’s probably very true but I’d hazard a guess that world wide there are a lot still in my boat.
Date: 23/05/2013 08:36:37
From: Geoff D
ID: 315408
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
Geoff D said:
roughbarked said:
Well I did something that probably won’t be noticed unless everyone who feels the same way goes down the same route.. I used the report abuse button and reported Flickr for abusing this user.
It would be my guess that the flickr web page designers would be astounded at the poor internet service you suffer, roughy.
Yeah, that’s probably very true but I’d hazard a guess that world wide there are a lot still in my boat.
Rwanda, maybe. Out in the sticks. Australia is, IMO, well behind most of the world in internet service.
Date: 23/05/2013 08:43:57
From: roughbarked
ID: 315409
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Geoff D said:
roughbarked said:
Geoff D said:
It would be my guess that the flickr web page designers would be astounded at the poor internet service you suffer, roughy.
Yeah, that’s probably very true but I’d hazard a guess that world wide there are a lot still in my boat.
Rwanda, maybe. Out in the sticks. Australia is, IMO, well behind most of the world in internet service.
Well I may as well live up some remote valley in Aghanistan. I’d probably get better internet.
Date: 23/05/2013 08:45:01
From: Geoff D
ID: 315411
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
Geoff D said:
roughbarked said:
Yeah, that’s probably very true but I’d hazard a guess that world wide there are a lot still in my boat.
Rwanda, maybe. Out in the sticks. Australia is, IMO, well behind most of the world in internet service.
Well I may as well live up some remote valley in Aghanistan. I’d probably get better internet.
Unfortunately, that is probably true.
Date: 23/05/2013 08:47:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 315412
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Geoff D said:
roughbarked said:
Geoff D said:
Rwanda, maybe. Out in the sticks. Australia is, IMO, well behind most of the world in internet service.
Well I may as well live up some remote valley in Aghanistan. I’d probably get better internet.
Unfortunately, that is probably true.
I suppose I’ll find time to clean and organise stuff now that I will no longer be spending all day uploading a couple of photos to Flickr.
Date: 23/05/2013 08:53:13
From: Geoff D
ID: 315416
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Start making a nuisance of yourself with your internet provider, local state and federal members, and Senator Conroy. Collect together all the brush-offs you get and present them to the telecomms ombudsman.
Date: 23/05/2013 08:54:03
From: Arts
ID: 315418
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Date: 23/05/2013 08:55:27
From: roughbarked
ID: 315420
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Geoff D said:
Start making a nuisance of yourself with your internet provider, local state and federal members, and Senator Conroy. Collect together all the brush-offs you get and present them to the telecomms ombudsman.
sigh.. a lot more time wasted.
Date: 23/05/2013 08:56:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 315421
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Arts said:
meh move to the city :P
The air is bad enough out in the bush these days.
Date: 23/05/2013 09:15:51
From: Arts
ID: 315428
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
Arts said:
meh move to the city :P
The air is bad enough out in the bush these days.
yep, city air is clear as now we pushed all the smog to the bits no-one goes to ;)
Date: 23/05/2013 12:01:39
From: morrie
ID: 315512
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Geoff D said:
roughbarked said:
Geoff D said:
It would be my guess that the flickr web page designers would be astounded at the poor internet service you suffer, roughy.
Yeah, that’s probably very true but I’d hazard a guess that world wide there are a lot still in my boat.
Rwanda, maybe. Out in the sticks. Australia is, IMO, well behind most of the world in internet service.
I am in the bush and I have the famous
NBN (the satellite version), but Flickr is still too much bandwidth for me. Flickr really are at fault for imposing this massive bandwidth burden on users with no notice and no low bandwidth option. It used to be standard practice in putting together internet sites to avoid putting too much bandwidth on the front page. There are users from lots of places complaining about it, not just Oz.
I agree with the comment about the web designers being astounded. These people will be working on lightning fast connections of unlimited bandwidth and are probably completely unaware the bandwidth can be a problem for some. Like the visitors I had recently. At 23 yo, they had no knowledge of the issue whatsoever. The site is designed to make it easy for people using mobile devices to scroll through the images. The fact that you can hack the original view (for the moment) shows that it would be simple for them to code in that option for other users.
Date: 23/05/2013 23:23:43
From: roughbarked
ID: 315988
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
morrie said:
roughbarked said:
morrie said:
Damo is the guy to thank (except his comment on the blog is closed to replies).
As a work around for the moment I find that I can mouse over the photostream option that shows as a drop down on someone’s avatar, then right click to get properties and then copy and paste into notepad to add the extra text, then paste that into the address bar.
You will see that the page has some gliches, but at least it allows you to browse someone’s photostream without being overwhelmed. I hope they don’t close down the option.
If they don’t fix it they will be getting an email from me demanding a refund.
You and thousands of others.
Here is another example of a workaround, this time accessing specific page of a set in the old format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tavruday/sets/72157626614520344/detail/?page=62
Ok but how.. Do I load one image and be able to read comments, take actions?
How do I share the photo without dragging the viewer into the same black morass?
The only quick fix I can see is account deletion.
Date: 24/05/2013 00:38:37
From: roughbarked
ID: 316009
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
morrie said:
roughbarked said:
If they don’t fix it they will be getting an email from me demanding a refund.
You and thousands of others.
Here is another example of a workaround, this time accessing specific page of a set in the old format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tavruday/sets/72157626614520344/detail/?page=62
Ok but how.. Do I load one image and be able to read comments, take actions?
How do I share the photo without dragging the viewer into the same black morass?
The only quick fix I can see is account deletion.
OK.. this sort of works.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/8758250224/#comments?details=1
Not that you’ll be able to see that photo unless I’ve befriended you.
However, I still can’t see how to do actions or shares. The bandwidth is a bit better but still annoying.
Date: 24/05/2013 00:47:26
From: roughbarked
ID: 316010
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Remember how I said they wouldn’t notice that I used the report abuse post and then went about reporting abuse of me by Flickr?
Here is the response:
>
Hello, roughbarked!
————————————-
This is a copy of a help case reply:
————————————-
Hello roughbarked,
Thank you for contacting Flickr Member Support.
We understand your concerns regarding the recent updates to Flickr. We are sorry if these changes have impacted you negatively in any way.
Starting on May 20, we will no longer offer new Flickr Pro subscriptions:
- Recurring Pro members will have the ability to renew.
- Eligible Pro members will have the option to switch to a Free account until 8/20/2013.
- The “Gift of Pro” will no longer be available for purchase.
- Pro users will no longer appear with a “Pro” badge beside their name or buddy icon.
If you are a current Flickr Pro member and would like to switch to a Free account and receive a refund for your remaining Flickr Pro subscription, you can find details and instructions at the Flickr website. Please allow four to six weeks for credit card refunds and at least one business week for PayPal refunds.
While we will not be reverting back to the prior version of Flickr, we do want to create a positive experience for all of our Flickr members.
With increased photo and video storage, upload photo size, upload video size, increased video playback time, plus unlimited original downloads of you photos, we hope you’ll give it a try.
Thank you again for contacting us. If you have any other questions, please feel free to reply to this email.
Regards,
Flickr staff
————————————-
Date: 24/05/2013 01:15:32
From: morrie
ID: 316012
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
They, and it seems many others just don’t understand the bandwidth issue. If it doesn’t affect you, I suppose it is hard to appreciate. There are a few people making comments in the help blog that indicate that they have no concept at all about what everyone is complaining about. They think it is all about the look of the site. Clearly, they are not experiencing the effects that the rest of us are finding so troublesome.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:20:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 316013
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
morrie said:
They, and it seems many others just don’t understand the bandwidth issue. If it doesn’t affect you, I suppose it is hard to appreciate. There are a few people making comments in the help blog that indicate that they have no concept at all about what everyone is complaining about. They think it is all about the look of the site. Clearly, they are not experiencing the effects that the rest of us are finding so troublesome.
Without a doubt it matters not to the management.
I’ll be writing to ask for a DVD copy of my images in full resolution, sent via surface mail.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:22:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 316014
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
morrie said:
They, and it seems many others just don’t understand the bandwidth issue. If it doesn’t affect you, I suppose it is hard to appreciate. There are a few people making comments in the help blog that indicate that they have no concept at all about what everyone is complaining about. They think it is all about the look of the site. Clearly, they are not experiencing the effects that the rest of us are finding so troublesome.
Without a doubt it matters not to the management.
I’ll be writing to ask for a DVD copy of my images in full resolution, sent via surface mail.
And.. I’ll ask to delete all my accounts. Which will help them realise that they are not just losing one customer.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:22:35
From: morrie
ID: 316015
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
morrie said:
You and thousands of others.
Here is another example of a workaround, this time accessing specific page of a set in the old format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tavruday/sets/72157626614520344/detail/?page=62
I have bookmarked the ‘recent activity’ page. That, and the groups pages, still work. I just can’t look at anyone’s photostream, including my own, without incurring at least 20 Megs of bandwidth each time.
Ok but how.. Do I load one image and be able to read comments, take actions?
How do I share the photo without dragging the viewer into the same black morass?
The only quick fix I can see is account deletion.
OK.. this sort of works.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/8758250224/#comments?details=1
Not that you’ll be able to see that photo unless I’ve befriended you.
However, I still can’t see how to do actions or shares. The bandwidth is a bit better but still annoying.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:25:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 316016
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Date: 24/05/2013 01:25:42
From: morrie
ID: 316017
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
morrie said:
They, and it seems many others just don’t understand the bandwidth issue. If it doesn’t affect you, I suppose it is hard to appreciate. There are a few people making comments in the help blog that indicate that they have no concept at all about what everyone is complaining about. They think it is all about the look of the site. Clearly, they are not experiencing the effects that the rest of us are finding so troublesome.
Without a doubt it matters not to the management.
I’ll be writing to ask for a DVD copy of my images in full resolution, sent via surface mail.
And.. I’ll ask to delete all my accounts. Which will help them realise that they are not just losing one customer.
You can delete your accounts in
http://www.flickr.com/account/
when you are logged in.
I don’t think you will be getting a DVD. And you have a hell of a lot of images.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:27:13
From: morrie
ID: 316018
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
morrie said:
You and thousands of others.
Here is another example of a workaround, this time accessing specific page of a set in the old format.
http://www.flickr.com/photos/tavruday/sets/72157626614520344/detail/?page=62
Ok but how.. Do I load one image and be able to read comments, take actions?
How do I share the photo without dragging the viewer into the same black morass?
The only quick fix I can see is account deletion.
OK.. this sort of works.. http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/8758250224/#comments?details=1
Not that you’ll be able to see that photo unless I’ve befriended you.
However, I still can’t see how to do actions or shares. The bandwidth is a bit better but still annoying.
I have bookmarked the ‘recent activity’ page. That, and the groups pages, still work. I just can’t look at anyone’s photostream, including my own, without incurring at least 20 Megs of bandwidth each time.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:27:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 316019
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
morrie said:
roughbarked said:
roughbarked said:
Without a doubt it matters not to the management.
I’ll be writing to ask for a DVD copy of my images in full resolution, sent via surface mail.
And.. I’ll ask to delete all my accounts. Which will help them realise that they are not just losing one customer.
You can delete your accounts in
http://www.flickr.com/account/
when you are logged in.
I don’t think you will be getting a DVD. And you have a hell of a lot of images.
Pretty much it in a nutshell. :(
Date: 24/05/2013 01:28:40
From: Angus Prune
ID: 316020
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
I’ll be writing to ask for a DVD copy of my images in full resolution, sent via surface mail.
….umm, why don’t you keep the originals saved on a hard drive at home, like every other photographer in the world?
Date: 24/05/2013 01:30:28
From: roughbarked
ID: 316021
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
morrie said:
I have bookmarked the ‘recent activity’ page. That, and the groups pages, still work. I just can’t look at anyone’s photostream, including my own, without incurring at least 20 Megs of bandwidth each time.
ah, that’s what you said..
Yep.. same here.
I could still at least keep up community chatter at increased bandwidth.. but there hasn’t been any of that because the people I’d normally chat on Flickr with all appear to be having the same problem.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:34:05
From: roughbarked
ID: 316022
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Angus Prune said:
roughbarked said:
I’ll be writing to ask for a DVD copy of my images in full resolution, sent via surface mail.
….umm, why don’t you keep the originals saved on a hard drive at home, like every other photographer in the world?
Because for a long time I had limited HD space.. sure I’ve got CD/DVD’s scattered about the place but I also had a hard drive nosedive on me and anyway.. my photos aren’t all that much chop and I can probably take most of them again tomorrow. So it is more the principle really. I said over on FFFS that I’ll not be clicking accept on anybody’s terms and conditions in the future.
and so be it.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:38:58
From: morrie
ID: 316023
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
Angus Prune said:
roughbarked said:
I’ll be writing to ask for a DVD copy of my images in full resolution, sent via surface mail.
….umm, why don’t you keep the originals saved on a hard drive at home, like every other photographer in the world?
Because for a long time I had limited HD space.. sure I’ve got CD/DVD’s scattered about the place but I also had a hard drive nosedive on me and anyway.. my photos aren’t all that much chop and I can probably take most of them again tomorrow. So it is more the principle really. I said over on FFFS that I’ll not be clicking accept on anybody’s terms and conditions in the future.
and so be it.
I wouldn’t call myself as a photographer as such, but I don’t keep all my photos on a hard drive. Jeez, they go back 15 years.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:41:32
From: morrie
ID: 316024
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
I can actually see your photostream as a set of thumbnails below and right of the picture. With very careful navigation, it is possible to make your way around. I do find that the site seems a little unstable though, and I have found myself ‘in the deep end’ without intending to go there a few times.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:42:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 316025
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
Angus Prune said:
roughbarked said:
I’ll be writing to ask for a DVD copy of my images in full resolution, sent via surface mail.
….umm, why don’t you keep the originals saved on a hard drive at home, like every other photographer in the world?
Because for a long time I had limited HD space.. sure I’ve got CD/DVD’s scattered about the place but I also had a hard drive nosedive on me and anyway.. my photos aren’t all that much chop and I can probably take most of them again tomorrow. So it is more the principle really. I said over on FFFS that I’ll not be clicking accept on anybody’s terms and conditions in the future.
and so be it.
Like PhotoPhuckit lived up to its name and Flickr just gave me the flick..
Let’s face it, I’m just not important enough to be noticed by megabuck cooperations..
I’ll probably turn to DropBox.. or just go back to the underground.. that part all still works.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:50:06
From: roughbarked
ID: 316027
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
morrie said:
roughbarked said:
Angus Prune said:
….umm, why don’t you keep the originals saved on a hard drive at home, like every other photographer in the world?
Because for a long time I had limited HD space.. sure I’ve got CD/DVD’s scattered about the place but I also had a hard drive nosedive on me and anyway.. my photos aren’t all that much chop and I can probably take most of them again tomorrow. So it is more the principle really. I said over on FFFS that I’ll not be clicking accept on anybody’s terms and conditions in the future.
and so be it.
I wouldn’t call myself as a photographer as such, but I don’t keep all my photos on a hard drive. Jeez, they go back 15 years.
I have photos going back to 1971 when I first bought a SLR.. most of those were scanned in and are on old hard drives which were in a time zone not covered even by this computer let alone yours. The original purpose was to have copies of the deteriorating slides and prints.
I have other older photos which I can probably scan in but I do need a new scanner though I’ve got four or five laying about that don’t work on this computer.
It is all about spending big money on keeping photos that no one will give a rats arse about until long after I’m dead.
I hark back to wookie’s post:
The precepts
Accept everything just the way it is.
Do not seek pleasure for its own sake.
Do not, under any circumstances, depend on a partial feeling.
Think lightly of yourself and deeply of the world.
Be detached from desire your whole life long.
Do not regret what you have done.
Never be jealous.
Never let yourself be saddened by a separation.
Resentment and complaint are appropriate neither for oneself nor others.
Do not let yourself be guided by the feeling of lust or love.
In all things have no preferences.
Be indifferent to where you live.
Do not pursue the taste of good food.
Do not hold on to possessions you no longer need.
Do not act following customary beliefs.
Do not collect weapons or practice with weapons beyond what is useful.
Do not fear death.
Do not seek to possess either goods or fiefs for your old age.
Respect Buddha and the gods without counting on their help.
You may abandon your own body but you must preserve your honour.
Never stray from the way.
Date: 24/05/2013 01:50:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 316028
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
morrie said:
I can actually see your photostream as a set of thumbnails below and right of the picture. With very careful navigation, it is possible to make your way around. I do find that the site seems a little unstable though, and I have found myself ‘in the deep end’ without intending to go there a few times.
and you have NBN
Date: 24/05/2013 14:18:03
From: roughbarked
ID: 316259
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
I’m currently working on a letter to Flickr.. encompassing the issues I and others have had and culminating perhaps in in odder of a solution or at least a request that they act on a solution.. Anyone wish to help?
the letter i’m answering is above.. a generic BS missive..
read where I’m up to and tell me how to improve if you see where I’m in need of it..
Dear Flickr Staff,
Thanks for the reply. Though it really didn’t address my issues.
I’ve been a Flickr community member for a good while and have found the community aspect to be what sets Flickr above the other photo sites.
Bandwidth has always been an issue for me as I am still using dial-up. I’m on an older computer PPC Mac and this limits my ability to upgrade to latest browsers. I may be part of a minority in this age but I doubt I’m alone. The fact remains however that the recent upgrade has upset others who have broadband and satellite broadband. It is not just me the old fuddy duddy, powering his computer with white mice.
While I applaud more storage space for less outlay, a terabyte means nothing to a person who cannot manage to open one image to view and work with it.. ie: carry out actions, tag, it share it etc. Your current page layout allows none of this. Forget those who want to search all of Flickr while they are out watching a movie and come home to find that the rest of the world did all their photography for them. Consider those who actually work at taking pictures and discussing why they take them.
As much as you are unconcerned about why I want to use Flickr, I’m unconcerned about how you run it .What does concern me however is can I use it. Sadly under the current configuration, I cannot. As pointed out above, I’m not the only one.
Date: 24/05/2013 14:30:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 316270
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
hIt is of little consequence to me or others whether you label me pro or not.. What was of importance to myself and others was that Pro meant we had paid for usage privileges unavailable to a free account. Nothing in your reply to me suggests that we get to actually keep these intact as per the initial purchase agreement.
Date: 24/05/2013 14:37:44
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 316274
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
It’s a bit surprising that Flickr don’t offer an alternative low-bandwidth interface. They have a very comprehensive programming interface (API), so it shouldn’t be too hard to write customised front-ends for it.
Date: 24/05/2013 14:39:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 316275
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
PM 2Ring said:
It’s a bit surprising that Flickr don’t offer an alternative low-bandwidth interface. They have a very comprehensive programming interface (API), so it shouldn’t be too hard to write customised front-ends for it.
That’s what I’m working towards asking for or perhaps indeed even offer to them if they can’t do it.
Date: 24/05/2013 14:39:34
From: Divine Angel
ID: 316276
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
I like your reply, roughy. I’d also ask for a refund (though I doubt you’ll get it) on having a Pro account that you are no longer able to use.
Date: 24/05/2013 14:40:09
From: morrie
ID: 316277
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
PM 2Ring said:
It’s a bit surprising that Flickr don’t offer an alternative low-bandwidth interface. They have a very comprehensive programming interface (API), so it shouldn’t be too hard to write customised front-ends for it.
One can hack the old interface as it stands, so it can’t be too difficult.
Date: 24/05/2013 14:51:52
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 316287
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
I’ve never had a Flickr account, but I have played around a tiny bit with the feeds that Flickr provide. The dynamic link below might not work on all browsers, but it should give a link to thumbnails of the 20 latest images on Flickr tagged with “Roses”.
Roses from flickr
If you click on a thumbnail it should take you to a Flickr page that displays the full image, but Flickr is currently doing some form of maintenance.
Date: 24/05/2013 14:53:16
From: roughbarked
ID: 316288
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
PM 2Ring said:
It’s a bit surprising that Flickr don’t offer an alternative low-bandwidth interface. They have a very comprehensive programming interface (API), so it shouldn’t be too hard to write customised front-ends for it.
The point is.. these were parts of the privileges granted to pro users and free users alike. Under the older Flickr frontends.
in fact.. just prior to this upgrade, I noticed that the Flickr upload page had reverted to only allowing the basic uploader to be available to me. So I simply installed the Mac desktop uploader and went on with making more easily manageable uploads. Until.. they started this shit.
It threw me at first.. I’m sure that if I could still work with their developer stuff.. then I’d rearrange the code to suit people such as me. However, it appears that this is not their intention for now at least.
Date: 24/05/2013 14:56:19
From: roughbarked
ID: 316292
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
PM 2Ring said:
I’ve never had a Flickr account, but I have played around a tiny bit with the feeds that Flickr provide. The dynamic link below might not work on all browsers, but it should give a link to thumbnails of the 20 latest images on Flickr tagged with “Roses”.
Roses from flickr
If you click on a thumbnail it should take you to a Flickr page that displays the full image, but Flickr is currently doing some form of maintenance.
Now you see why I asked here for help. ;)
Date: 24/05/2013 14:58:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 316297
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Divine Angel said:
I like your reply, roughy. I’d also ask for a refund (though I doubt you’ll get it) on having a Pro account that you are no longer able to use.
They have declared that I can apply for a refund on whatever is owed but that this would require me moving to a free account.. and I fail to see where they describe what privileges these new free accounts actually have to offer other than a black morass and an interminable wait.
Date: 24/05/2013 15:06:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 316304
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
Divine Angel said:
I like your reply, roughy. I’d also ask for a refund (though I doubt you’ll get it) on having a Pro account that you are no longer able to use.
They have declared that I can apply for a refund on whatever is owed but that this would require me moving to a free account.. and I fail to see where they describe what privileges these new free accounts actually have to offer other than a black morass and an interminable wait.
Actually I should head the letter, “please explain” in an ocker accent.
Date: 25/05/2013 01:30:48
From: roughbarked
ID: 316867
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
I’ve got this far, any thoughts?
Dear Flickr Staff,
Thanks for the reply. Though it really didn’t address my issues.
I’ve been a Flickr community member for a good while and have found the community aspect to be what sets Flickr above the other photo sites.
Bandwidth has always been an issue for me as I am still using dial-up. I’m on an older computer PPC Mac and this limits my ability to upgrade to latest browsers. I may be part of a minority in this age but I doubt I’m alone. The fact remains however that the recent upgrade has upset others who have broadband and satellite broadband. It is not just me the old fuddy duddy, powering his computer with white mice.
While I applaud more storage space for less outlay, a terabyte means nothing to a person who cannot manage to open one image to view and work with it.. ie: carry out actions, tag, it share it etc. Your current page layout allows none of this. Forget those who want to search all of Flickr while they are out watching a movie and come home to find that the rest of the world did all their photography for them. Consider those who actually work at taking pictures and discussing why they take them.
As much as you are unconcerned about why I want to use Flickr, I’m unconcerned about how you run it . What does concern me however is can I use it. Sadly under the current configuration, I cannot. As pointed out above, I’m not the only one.
It is of little consequence to me or others whether you label me Pro or not. What was of importance to myself and others was that Pro meant we had paid for usage privileges unavailable to a free account. Nothing in your reply to me suggests that we get to actually keep these intact as per the initial purchase agreement.
I’ve talked to others about the issue and it has been noted: “It’s a bit surprising that Flickr don’t offer an alternative low-bandwidth interface. They have a very comprehensive programming interface (API), so it shouldn’t be too hard to write customised front-ends for it.”
Basically all I’m asking for is a way to navigate my Flickr pages without having to load all the stuff that won’t work for me anyway.
As it is I cannot download or view my own photos within any reasonable time frame. The free accounts are no better than the Pro in this regard. Thus offering me a free account is of little value to me as I still cannot use it.
As is the case with some of the images I’ve uploaded, the one on Flickr is the only copy I’ve got. The problem with that now is, that I no longer can access that copy. Many have told me they are shifting their images elsewhere but for me this is a ridiculous proposition. To move my images, you’d need to send me them on DVD via surface mail.
Date: 25/05/2013 01:41:27
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 316870
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
I’m not sure about the bit that says
Your current page layout allows none of this. Forget those who want to search all of Flickr while they are out watching a movie and come home to find that the rest of the world did all their photography for them. Consider those who actually work at taking pictures and discussing why they take them.
Maybe say something like
Your current page layout allows none of this for me, due to the low speed and byte allowance of my internet connection that I mentioned previously.
Date: 25/05/2013 01:44:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 316871
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
PM 2Ring said:
I’m not sure about the bit that says
Your current page layout allows none of this. Forget those who want to search all of Flickr while they are out watching a movie and come home to find that the rest of the world did all their photography for them. Consider those who actually work at taking pictures and discussing why they take them.
Maybe say something like
Your current page layout allows none of this for me, due to the low speed and byte allowance of my internet connection that I mentioned previously.
Yep that’s concise. :)
Date: 25/05/2013 01:53:12
From: morrie
ID: 316878
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
How about “Its not all about money, you bastards, we are a community”
Date: 25/05/2013 01:57:14
From: roughbarked
ID: 316881
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
morrie said:
How about “Its not all about money, you bastards, we are a community”
Oh I can probably be even more brief with the use of such WTFDYTYADTOCYFH’s?
Date: 25/05/2013 01:59:11
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 316882
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Also, mention that you are in a remote region and that better internet is just not viable, eg,
It is not just me the old fuddy duddy, living out in the middle of nowhere, powering his computer with white mice.
Date: 25/05/2013 02:01:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 316885
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
PM 2Ring said:
Also, mention that you are in a remote region and that better internet is just not viable, eg,
It is not just me the old fuddy duddy, living out in the middle of nowhere, powering his computer with white mice.
Clever fix. :)
Date: 25/05/2013 02:02:29
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 316886
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Date: 25/05/2013 02:03:59
From: roughbarked
ID: 316887
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
CrazyNeutrino said:
Whats wrong with Flickr?
Have you tried it?
Date: 25/05/2013 02:07:13
From: morrie
ID: 316891
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
roughbarked said:
morrie said:
How about “Its not all about money, you bastards, we are a community”
Oh I can probably be even more brief with the use of such WTFDYTYADTOCYFH’s?
That is the biggest acronym that I have ever been able to comprehend.
Date: 29/05/2013 10:41:07
From: roughbarked
ID: 319372
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
After trying to load my fungi set for editing, which I started 12 hours ago and it still hasn’t loaded. I’m about to give the whole thing a miss and go get a life, without Flickr. Which probably means I’ll have more time to come here and annoy you lot more.
Date: 30/05/2013 13:19:39
From: roughbarked
ID: 319996
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Anyway… I’ve tried quite a few things and have been led to the belief that it is a very slight chance that I’ll ever retain ownership of the images I’ve uploaded or be able to retrieve decent copies and that the same will go for shifting to ipernity without drastic measures which at the moment appear less than desirable.
Which equates to.. well that’s the end of that.
Date: 30/05/2013 13:20:54
From: Divine Angel
ID: 320000
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
pardon the French, but that’s fucked, roughy :-/
Date: 30/05/2013 13:26:04
From: roughbarked
ID: 320006
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Divine Angel said:
pardon the French, but that’s fucked, roughy :-/
It is.. but isn’t like many will notice
Date: 30/05/2013 13:28:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 320010
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
The very basic version of Photobucket I’m using seems low bandwidth.
Date: 30/05/2013 13:28:17
From: morrie
ID: 320011
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
From looking at what PM put together the other day, I was thinking that there would be a market for an application that would act as a Flickr front end, or viewer. Something that resides on your computer. Viewr.
Date: 30/05/2013 13:31:25
From: Bubblecar
ID: 320013
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Bubblecar said:
The very basic version of Photobucket I’m using seems low bandwidth.
OTOH I only use it to post pitchers here, never larger than 800 × 600.
Date: 30/05/2013 13:35:00
From: roughbarked
ID: 320015
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Bubblecar said:
Bubblecar said:
The very basic version of Photobucket I’m using seems low bandwidth.
OTOH I only use it to post pitchers here, never larger than 800 × 600.
Photobucket is useable somedays.. but it is a real pain these days
Date: 30/05/2013 13:36:05
From: morrie
ID: 320017
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Perhaps your son could rescue your pictures, rb? I imagine he has a pretty good connection.
Date: 30/05/2013 13:37:42
From: roughbarked
ID: 320019
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
morrie said:
Perhaps your son could rescue your pictures, rb? I imagine he has a pretty good connection.
You are psychic.. That was the last resort I was thinking of. if he’d agree.
Date: 30/05/2013 13:40:09
From: roughbarked
ID: 320021
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
I can still use Flickr and Photobucket but only because I am a bit above the average bear if they were in my situation.. However as morrie put it.. asking this of me is akin to environmental vandalism.. and though that’s a bit.. er., well anyway I sorta agree.
Date: 25/08/2013 07:12:40
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 377635
Subject: re: Alternatives to Flickr
Just noticed there is a big horrible Yahoo toolbar in flickr now. I am a paying customer, FFS!
Anyway, turns out it is easily removed.
http://blog.loupiote.com/2013/07/remove-yahoo-bar-from-flickr-with.html
Won’t be renewing my subscription when it lapses, that’s for sure.