Welcome to June, and winter.

Got the morning off netball administrating because of the rain. Went back to be because my back was sore. Off across the road soon to an Environmental Film Festival with guest speakers at our Cinema/Memorial Hall. Should be interesting.

bluegreen said:

Welcome to June, and winter.

Got the morning off netball administrating because of the rain. Went back to be because my back was sore. Off across the road soon to an Environmental Film Festival with guest speakers at our Cinema/Memorial Hall. Should be interesting.

Went back to bed

June appears to have started out wet.. Something that is probably common but has been rather rare of late.. http://www.essentialenergy.com.au/content/stormtracker

Autumn ends with this from my daughter, though I’ll have to have a chat with her about remembering the level of the horizon.. when overbalancing towards the subject.

roughbarked said:

June appears to have started out wet.. Something that is probably common but has been rather rare of late.. http://www.essentialenergy.com.au/content/stormtracker

Autumn ends with this from my daughter, though I’ll have to have a chat with her about remembering the level of the horizon.. when overbalancing towards the subject.

Still a nice pic though.

Hello Gardeners. Back home. We trekked off to Melbourne last night to have The Talk with my parents about them considering moving to our little town in the not too distant future as Mum is starting to have memory difficulties. It’s a difficult subject – they live in the house they built in 1956. Mr buffy and I began the planning 10 years ago when we invested in a half share in a pair of units, and Mum has half heartedly fought us over the concept since then. We are moving to the next stage by offering to buy out the other 50% from our friend who bought in with us. We will then just have to keep one empty and partly furnished and try to get Mum and Dad down more often to make the place ‘home’. I have a brother living in Melbourne, but I’m afraid it’s “but he’s got kids”, “but he works so hard”…….I know it is us who will have the job, and we accepted that years ago. But I can’t stop my practice (I practice solo, people rely on me) and go to Melbourne as a carer. At the moment we have time, but we discovered while discussing things that Dad hasn’t actually given any consideration at all to possible periods of disability. He thinks he will be alive, or dead. Nothing in between.

Anyway, we forced the issue to make them start thinking.

And then we came home so they could continue discussing it without us standing over them. If they chose not to take up our offer, I guess my Melbourne brother will just have to be the one to run them around etc etc if it comes to that………and he is a lot more likely than we are to get them “placed”.

Fun and games.

:)

…and you don’t “work so hard”?

Yeh, I got that…my lil bro “works so hard, he’s so busy”…like with 5 kids and a self-employed husband (no public service in this family) I wasn’t so busy I couldn’t just drop everything on command…and I mean command…and no mention that P (husband) also drove miles in his job…

Did you offer a better sense of community where you are? Where the social fabric is very clearly made up of goldies to newborns, and there’s a more comphrensive range of living going on?

It’s hard to give up your home that you’ve raised your family in, but it sounds like, at your parents’ stage, there’s a wider range of living to be had where you are, and when things go wrong, there’ll be more support from people they’ve come to know in your town…

Sometimes, somebody else is waiting to love the family home, differently to what you do but love it just the same…

Hope this helps…

buffy said:

Hello Gardeners. Back home. We trekked off to Melbourne last night to have The Talk with my parents about them considering moving to our little town in the not too distant future as Mum is starting to have memory difficulties. It’s a difficult subject – they live in the house they built in 1956. Mr buffy and I began the planning 10 years ago when we invested in a half share in a pair of units, and Mum has half heartedly fought us over the concept since then. We are moving to the next stage by offering to buy out the other 50% from our friend who bought in with us. We will then just have to keep one empty and partly furnished and try to get Mum and Dad down more often to make the place ‘home’. I have a brother living in Melbourne, but I’m afraid it’s “but he’s got kids”, “but he works so hard”…….I know it is us who will have the job, and we accepted that years ago. But I can’t stop my practice (I practice solo, people rely on me) and go to Melbourne as a carer. At the moment we have time, but we discovered while discussing things that Dad hasn’t actually given any consideration at all to possible periods of disability. He thinks he will be alive, or dead. Nothing in between.

Anyway, we forced the issue to make them start thinking.

And then we came home so they could continue discussing it without us standing over them. If they chose not to take up our offer, I guess my Melbourne brother will just have to be the one to run them around etc etc if it comes to that………and he is a lot more likely than we are to get them “placed”.

Fun and games.

:)

D and I had the same question put to us just recently. I’d like to say that we agreed with the proposal on offer but we didn’t. We hadn’t ever thought about what might happen to us in the nexct 10 years because this is our home and we love it. I couldn’t imagine moving to new surroundings no matter how comfortable they may be. We are under no illusion that the time will come when we can no longer look after ourselves and help will be needed. When that time comes we will endure any necessary steps but while we are capable and enjoying our life we can’t dwell on the negatives.

Just to know that someone is there with thoughts and caring for us is heartwarming and comforting but now is not the time for us to consider how we will handle any deterioration. We know the time will come but for now we still have a future and it’s right here doing what we love to do.

None of this may fall into line with your parents position but I can well imagine their thoughts on the subject. It’s a hard position for kids to be in. I went throught it too with my parents. I didn’t understand them either. All the best to you and to your parents.

pomolo said:

It’s a hard position for kids to be in. I went throught it too with my parents. I didn’t understand them either. All the best to you and to your parents.

When my late mother was 88, and obviously increasingly frail, I urged her to look around and consider her position, so that she could make a decision before she “had” to…she never forgave me for “interfering”…it was just a suggestion that she do something about the matter for herself…one of my reasons for raising the matter was that, at the time, “old folk’ could end up in a town 4 hours drive away from their home town, because “that’s where the vacancy was”…

Hello Gardeners.

Thanks for your support and comments. My parents are 81 and 83 and we would have kept the whole thing on the backburner except Mum’s memory problems are noticeably worse now than they were at Christmas, or even at Easter. She’s still capable with her housework (the house is clean, I was rude enough to surreptitiously check behind furniture for clean floors too) and cooking and clothes washing etc. I’ve told her I’m not worried about her leaving the gas on or anything, but that is all with stuff that has a brain memory. Within a conversation she is having trouble remembering back more than about half an hour.

I pretty much forced her into going to the doctor a couple of weeks ago to see if there was a solvable problem. Fortunately the CT of head and neck was clear, as were her carotid doppler tests, so it is probably (?) not a dementia. At the moment she is to see a geriatrician and I’m hopeful it might simply be a medication effect, or even the Older Lady’s Bane – a urinary tract infection.

My youngest brother, the one who is so busy, is having tea at my parent’s place tonight and I’m hoping he will continue the discussion. Although I’m thinking he is likely to say “I didn’t know Mum was having trouble with her memory”…….

>>When my late mother was 88, and obviously increasingly frail, I urged her to look around and consider her position, so that she could make a decision before she “had” to…she never forgave me for “interfering”…it was just a suggestion that she do something about the matter for herself…one of my reasons for raising the matter was that, at the time, “old folk’ could end up in a town 4 hours drive away from their home town, because “that’s where the vacancy was”…<<

I am prepared to be the Interfering Daughter. I can live with that. Now we have forced the issue, we will sit back and let things simmer for a while. But we will go ahead and prepare the unit as a refuge should we need it……

buffy said:

I am prepared to be the Interfering Daughter. I can live with that. Now we have forced the issue, we will sit back and let things simmer for a while. But we will go ahead and prepare the unit as a refuge should we need it……

You are a wonderful daughter.. keep it up, is all the advice I can give.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I am prepared to be the Interfering Daughter. I can live with that. Now we have forced the issue, we will sit back and let things simmer for a while. But we will go ahead and prepare the unit as a refuge should we need it……

You are a wonderful daughter.. keep it up, is all the advice I can give.

What RB said. Absolutely.

I haven’t had this scenario, my stepfather and mother both died youngish, he when he was 55 and mum went at 64.

And, the landscape just changed dramatically. The person we offered to buy their share of the units from counter offered to buy our share from us. Given the general family feeling against our plans, we are taking the money and selling. The other person also wouldn’t countenance us telling the current tenants that we wanted to not renew the lease because I want to use the unit for personal use. We made an instant decision to take her offer and release all ties.

So now my Melbourne brother can make my parents think, and if something happens he can sort it out. We will have the wherewithall to buy something here if we have to.

buffy said:

And, the landscape just changed dramatically. The person we offered to buy their share of the units from counter offered to buy our share from us. Given the general family feeling against our plans, we are taking the money and selling. The other person also wouldn’t countenance us telling the current tenants that we wanted to not renew the lease because I want to use the unit for personal use. We made an instant decision to take her offer and release all ties.

So now my Melbourne brother can make my parents think, and if something happens he can sort it out. We will have the wherewithall to buy something here if we have to.

keep thinking thus.

Happy Potter said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I am prepared to be the Interfering Daughter. I can live with that. Now we have forced the issue, we will sit back and let things simmer for a while. But we will go ahead and prepare the unit as a refuge should we need it……

You are a wonderful daughter.. keep it up, is all the advice I can give.

What RB said. Absolutely.

I haven’t had this scenario, my stepfather and mother both died youngish, he when he was 55 and mum went at 64.

My mum’s got her place in a retirement home all sorted and ready for when she decides she can’t cope in the house anymore. My dad and the in-law’s are now dead.

buffy said:

And, the landscape just changed dramatically. The person we offered to buy their share of the units from counter offered to buy our share from us. Given the general family feeling against our plans, we are taking the money and selling. The other person also wouldn’t countenance us telling the current tenants that we wanted to not renew the lease because I want to use the unit for personal use. We made an instant decision to take her offer and release all ties.

So now my Melbourne brother can make my parents think, and if something happens he can sort it out. We will have the wherewithall to buy something here if we have to.

well it just goes to show you never know what is around the corner :)

buffy said:

Hello Gardeners.

Thanks for your support and comments. My parents are 81 and 83 and we would have kept the whole thing on the backburner except Mum’s memory problems are noticeably worse now than they were at Christmas, or even at Easter. She’s still capable with her housework (the house is clean, I was rude enough to surreptitiously check behind furniture for clean floors too) and cooking and clothes washing etc. I’ve told her I’m not worried about her leaving the gas on or anything, but that is all with stuff that has a brain memory. Within a conversation she is having trouble remembering back more than about half an hour.

I pretty much forced her into going to the doctor a couple of weeks ago to see if there was a solvable problem. Fortunately the CT of head and neck was clear, as were her carotid doppler tests, so it is probably (?) not a dementia. At the moment she is to see a geriatrician and I’m hopeful it might simply be a medication effect, or even the Older Lady’s Bane – a urinary tract infection.

My youngest brother, the one who is so busy, is having tea at my parent’s place tonight and I’m hoping he will continue the discussion. Although I’m thinking he is likely to say “I didn’t know Mum was having trouble with her memory”…….

At 81 and 83 I imagine the problem is more immediate.

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I am prepared to be the Interfering Daughter. I can live with that. Now we have forced the issue, we will sit back and let things simmer for a while. But we will go ahead and prepare the unit as a refuge should we need it……

You are a wonderful daughter.. keep it up, is all the advice I can give.

I agree.

Happy Potter said:

roughbarked said:

buffy said:

I am prepared to be the Interfering Daughter. I can live with that. Now we have forced the issue, we will sit back and let things simmer for a while. But we will go ahead and prepare the unit as a refuge should we need it……

You are a wonderful daughter.. keep it up, is all the advice I can give.

What RB said. Absolutely.

I haven’t had this scenario, my stepfather and mother both died youngish, he when he was 55 and mum went at 64.

There hangs the other side of the tale.

buffy said:

And, the landscape just changed dramatically. The person we offered to buy their share of the units from counter offered to buy our share from us. Given the general family feeling against our plans, we are taking the money and selling. The other person also wouldn’t countenance us telling the current tenants that we wanted to not renew the lease because I want to use the unit for personal use. We made an instant decision to take her offer and release all ties.

So now my Melbourne brother can make my parents think, and if something happens he can sort it out. We will have the wherewithall to buy something here if we have to.

There you go. The best made plans of mice and men……………… or something like that.

It will be interesting now to see what my siblings say. I phoned Mum this afternoon to tell her about our changes……and she didn’t remember that we had a share in the units. She’s known about it for the ten years we have had it. I don’t think she is doing an Auntie Mollie (one of my great aunts could get suddenly very vague when she chose), I think we have a genuine memory problem going on. And to tell the truth she scared me this afternoon. Melbourne brother is taking his family there for tea tonight. I wonder if I will get a report.

I’m off to watch the Whitlam doco.

And here we are again! Yayy ! :) Just bookmarking you.

pomolo said:

At 81 and 83 I imagine the problem is more immediate.

My FIL is 83 and his health problems are a worry…helps to have a Dr in the family…however She (MIL) is 7 years younger and in far better health than him… you would not put him in a Home of any sort as it would disrupt the home …

buffy said:

I’m off to watch the Whitlam doco.

It’s a goodie!… well the first part was…

Artemis said:

And here we are again! Yayy ! :) Just bookmarking you.

eek!

Trying to remember which Greek character you are…weren’t you a fearsome warrior?

Artemis said:

And here we are again! Yayy ! :) Just bookmarking you.

I’m so glad , I’m so glad, I’m glad, I’m glad, I’m glad.

in two falls of rain over weekend.. 9.6 mm and 30.4 mm methinks that makes 40

roughbarked said:

in two falls of rain over weekend.. 9.6 mm and 30.4 mm methinks that makes 40

you did better than me. 30mm over three days.

At least the precipitation is finally happening down your ways…

Dinetta said:

At least the precipitation is finally happening down your ways…

It has been “just in time” for crop farmers to get their seeds germinating.

Morning.
I’ve rounded up young roos for ‘rehoming’ and about to drop them off at a friends place. I shouldna let them out to roam but I forgot so catching them involved some chasey in the mud action. Buggered now, but off to get some bags of grain and layer pellets.

Drs appt to get my sore leg checked out after, feels like I kicked an elephant. I don’t see any of them about though.

Morning all. Suns is out and the sky is clear. A beautiful day. D is painting the eaves after waiting so long for a fine, clear day. I’ve done some hand washing. Don’t you hate those clothes that have to be hand washed? I’m careful to read the laundry directions when I purchase but daughter gave me these things so when they are dirty they sit untill I get a few together and do the whole lot.

The white cockatoos and the yellow tails are causing a constant screeching all over. Now the Cookaburras have decided to get into the battle and it is a battle that’s going on. The Sulpha Cresteds are having a go at the Yellow tail Blacks and more is the pity, it’s the yellow tails that give in. Maybe the Kookas will do them all in in the end. The noisy miners have diminished in numbers and that’s got to be good.

Good morning Holidayers. I’ll just get that in before midday. Sitting in Hamilton because we needed some veggies (hate it when there aren’t enough in the garden, but our local supermarket has pretty good stuff if you buy in season) and a couple of other things. We had to cancel an appointment in the bank because of our change of plans and we also cancelled the accountant. Mr buffy did the solicitor stuff over the phone.

About to head home. I need to put in more cabbagey thing seeds because I was a tad too early planting out the first lot and the cabbage moth caterpillars had a bit of a gourmet feast. Might get some more onions going too.

Sitting here with a leaking nose, sore throat, chesty cough and phlegm at the back of my nose.

Happy chappy.

Dinetta said:

Sitting here with a leaking nose, sore throat, chesty cough and phlegm at the back of my nose.

Happy chappy.

Aw, lot’s of fluids and keep warm. Peoples are dropping like flies around me from these same symptoms. I’m good though.

Re my sore leg, seems I’ve torn my calf muscle, but..I have to leave the lympho’ stockings off for now and tomorrow to see if that leg swells more than the other. If it does then direct to hosp for an ultrasound on it. Crossed fingers x

Dinetta said:

Sitting here with a leaking nose, sore throat, chesty cough and phlegm at the back of my nose.

Happy chappy.

:( :(

Happy Potter said:

Dinetta said:

Sitting here with a leaking nose, sore throat, chesty cough and phlegm at the back of my nose.

Happy chappy.

Aw, lot’s of fluids and keep warm. Peoples are dropping like flies around me from these same symptoms. I’m good though.

Re my sore leg, seems I’ve torn my calf muscle, but..I have to leave the lympho’ stockings off for now and tomorrow to see if that leg swells more than the other. If it does then direct to hosp for an ultrasound on it. Crossed fingers x

:( :(

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Dinetta said:

Sitting here with a leaking nose, sore throat, chesty cough and phlegm at the back of my nose.

Happy chappy.

Aw, lot’s of fluids and keep warm. Peoples are dropping like flies around me from these same symptoms. I’m good though.

Re my sore leg, seems I’ve torn my calf muscle, but..I have to leave the lympho’ stockings off for now and tomorrow to see if that leg swells more than the other. If it does then direct to hosp for an ultrasound on it. Crossed fingers x

:( :(

Bugga, it’s swollen alright so I’m off to the hosp. At least an ultrasound will show us more.

Keep my seat warm youse!

Good morning Gardeners. Off to work for me today. We have quite a few things that need doing other than the full book of consultations, so I’d better get on with them. This month is annual stocktake month. I’ve set up the data base for the frame listing. I’ll start inputting the more rarely requested frames shortly and then on the 26th we will be closed and C and I will make our once a year list. It serves as a weeding exercise too, finding stuff that is not moving and either returning it for credit to the supplier (some are very good about this, as they use the bits for the parts they have to have available for warranties) or giving them to the Lions Club for their overseas aid things.

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Aw, lot’s of fluids and keep warm. Peoples are dropping like flies around me from these same symptoms. I’m good though.

Re my sore leg, seems I’ve torn my calf muscle, but..I have to leave the lympho’ stockings off for now and tomorrow to see if that leg swells more than the other. If it does then direct to hosp for an ultrasound on it. Crossed fingers x

:( :(

Bugga, it’s swollen alright so I’m off to the hosp. At least an ultrasound will show us more.

Keep my seat warm youse!

Back, for now. They gave me a blood thining jab and pain tabs and sent me home. X ray dept at 12. Gotta rest the leg, no chasing chooks.

Looks like a tough night was had.. :(

Keep the leg elevated ;)

buffy said:

Good morning Gardeners. Off to work for me today. We have quite a few things that need doing other than the full book of consultations, so I’d better get on with them. This month is annual stocktake month. I’ve set up the data base for the frame listing. I’ll start inputting the more rarely requested frames shortly and then on the 26th we will be closed and C and I will make our once a year list. It serves as a weeding exercise too, finding stuff that is not moving and either returning it for credit to the supplier (some are very good about this, as they use the bits for the parts they have to have available for warranties) or giving them to the Lions Club for their overseas aid things.

What Mrs Daughter is doing atm for KP (when she gets back to work), stocktaking and sending unsold frames to local charities. I got a fab pair out of the cheap lot for $60 , as opposed to the exxy designer brands, and wear them all day everyday. Bargain.

Don’t work too hard.

roughbarked said:

Looks like a tough night was had.. :(

Keep the leg elevated ;)

Yeah, hard to do at the pc tho’. I’m so glad no one can see me lol.

My g’smith espalier has burst into blossom even before it’s lost it’s leaves. I can see it through the window. Did I summer prune too well? lol. I’ll have to get someone to get up on the ladder to pinch off the flowers. I don’t do ladder work, period.

Happy Potter said:

My g’smith espalier has burst into blossom even before it’s lost it’s leaves. I can see it through the window. Did I summer prune too well? lol. I’ll have to get someone to get up on the ladder to pinch off the flowers. I don’t do ladder work, period.

I wouldn’t worry. they won’t come to anything.

Yay, good news, it’s not a dvt, thank goodness! It’s a torn muscle.

Bad news, it’s a big enough split to warrant surgery and I’m booked in for the morning for a day surgery. Then follows a soft tissue investigation to find out why, in the absence of any known trauma illness or injury, except for a full leg cramp I got several nights ago, I get leg cramps so bad that a muscle tore.

R&R and pain tabs. If I’m ok by tomorrow night and I can get a lift with someone, I’m off to an event in Newport; Mayoral Forum: Eating for Sustainability. I have my ticket and will go, if I can. I’ll only be sitting and eating anyway :)
I’ve double booked myself again and have an appt with my lapband surgeon for a check up at the same time that I can’t reschedule without paying, so I’m giving that appt away to a friend.

Yer I’m miss organised LOL.

Happy Potter said:

Yay, good news, it’s not a dvt, thank goodness! It’s a torn muscle.

Bad news, it’s a big enough split to warrant surgery and I’m booked in for the morning for a day surgery. Then follows a soft tissue investigation to find out why, in the absence of any known trauma illness or injury, except for a full leg cramp I got several nights ago, I get leg cramps so bad that a muscle tore.

R&R and pain tabs. If I’m ok by tomorrow night and I can get a lift with someone, I’m off to an event in Newport; Mayoral Forum: Eating for Sustainability. I have my ticket and will go, if I can. I’ll only be sitting and eating anyway :)
I’ve double booked myself again and have an appt with my lapband surgeon for a check up at the same time that I can’t reschedule without paying, so I’m giving that appt away to a friend.

Yer I’m miss organised LOL.

OW! on the torn muscle. You must get terrible cramps! That forum sounds good though so I hope you can get a lift.

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Yay, good news, it’s not a dvt, thank goodness! It’s a torn muscle.

Bad news, it’s a big enough split to warrant surgery and I’m booked in for the morning for a day surgery. Then follows a soft tissue investigation to find out why, in the absence of any known trauma illness or injury, except for a full leg cramp I got several nights ago, I get leg cramps so bad that a muscle tore.

R&R and pain tabs. If I’m ok by tomorrow night and I can get a lift with someone, I’m off to an event in Newport; Mayoral Forum: Eating for Sustainability. I have my ticket and will go, if I can. I’ll only be sitting and eating anyway :)
I’ve double booked myself again and have an appt with my lapband surgeon for a check up at the same time that I can’t reschedule without paying, so I’m giving that appt away to a friend.

Yer I’m miss organised LOL.

OW! on the torn muscle. You must get terrible cramps! That forum sounds good though so I hope you can get a lift.

Yes it does, I’ve had the ticket for weeks. Yeah the cramp was a bad one, whole leg contorted, in bloody agony and I was trying to stand on one foot with my whole weight on tippy toes on my twisted foot to get it to release. Blessed relief when it did.
There’s no rhyme or reason I get them, not dehydrated, not diabetic nor nutrient deficient, but I’ve gotten them all my life. It may have something to do deep sleep and circulation and blood pooling. Getting cold legs can cause it too. Will find out.

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Yay, good news, it’s not a dvt, thank goodness! It’s a torn muscle.

Bad news, it’s a big enough split to warrant surgery and I’m booked in for the morning for a day surgery. Then follows a soft tissue investigation to find out why, in the absence of any known trauma illness or injury, except for a full leg cramp I got several nights ago, I get leg cramps so bad that a muscle tore.

R&R and pain tabs. If I’m ok by tomorrow night and I can get a lift with someone, I’m off to an event in Newport; Mayoral Forum: Eating for Sustainability. I have my ticket and will go, if I can. I’ll only be sitting and eating anyway :)
I’ve double booked myself again and have an appt with my lapband surgeon for a check up at the same time that I can’t reschedule without paying, so I’m giving that appt away to a friend.

Yer I’m miss organised LOL.

OW! on the torn muscle. You must get terrible cramps! That forum sounds good though so I hope you can get a lift.

Yes it does, I’ve had the ticket for weeks. Yeah the cramp was a bad one, whole leg contorted, in bloody agony and I was trying to stand on one foot with my whole weight on tippy toes on my twisted foot to get it to release. Blessed relief when it did.
There’s no rhyme or reason I get them, not dehydrated, not diabetic nor nutrient deficient, but I’ve gotten them all my life. It may have something to do deep sleep and circulation and blood pooling. Getting cold legs can cause it too. Will find out.

my understanding is that waste products are not getting removed from the muscle and build up, so circulation issues.

Just while I’m resting, some light reading on diseases and problems with vegetables. I read up on potato problems too. It’s a good site :)
http://vegetablemdonline.ppath.cornell.edu/cropindex.htm

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

OW! on the torn muscle. You must get terrible cramps! That forum sounds good though so I hope you can get a lift.

Yes it does, I’ve had the ticket for weeks. Yeah the cramp was a bad one, whole leg contorted, in bloody agony and I was trying to stand on one foot with my whole weight on tippy toes on my twisted foot to get it to release. Blessed relief when it did.
There’s no rhyme or reason I get them, not dehydrated, not diabetic nor nutrient deficient, but I’ve gotten them all my life. It may have something to do deep sleep and circulation and blood pooling. Getting cold legs can cause it too. Will find out.

my understanding is that waste products are not getting removed from the muscle and build up, so circulation issues.

Yes that is true too.
I probably need a nighttime potassium boost so I’m going to at least try it. A banana with some yoghurt is tonight’s bedtime snack. I cannot sleep if I’m hungry either, so at least one prob will be fixed. I have to make some more of my yoghurt asap, dislike the store bought stuff now.

roughbarked said:

Looks like a tough night was had.. :(

Keep the leg elevated ;)

Cheeky!

Back already, leg bandaged, my quick leg fix op was cancelled.
The registrar looked at my ultrasound and decided that the dramatics of a general anaesthetic weren’t needed and as the split was on the smaller end of the scale of the tear sizes that need medical intervention, and that it was my calf muscle and not thigh, a compression stocking, physio and pain relief was the best option. Good! The less sharp things they can stick into me the better.
Now a physio appt to be made, leg measured and the stocking will be ordered from an orthotics place.

Yay yay yay :)

Happy Potter said:

Back already, leg bandaged, my quick leg fix op was cancelled.
The registrar looked at my ultrasound and decided that the dramatics of a general anaesthetic weren’t needed and as the split was on the smaller end of the scale of the tear sizes that need medical intervention, and that it was my calf muscle and not thigh, a compression stocking, physio and pain relief was the best option. Good! The less sharp things they can stick into me the better.
Now a physio appt to be made, leg measured and the stocking will be ordered from an orthotics place.

Yay yay yay :)

good :)

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Back already, leg bandaged, my quick leg fix op was cancelled.
The registrar looked at my ultrasound and decided that the dramatics of a general anaesthetic weren’t needed and as the split was on the smaller end of the scale of the tear sizes that need medical intervention, and that it was my calf muscle and not thigh, a compression stocking, physio and pain relief was the best option. Good! The less sharp things they can stick into me the better.
Now a physio appt to be made, leg measured and the stocking will be ordered from an orthotics place.

Yay yay yay :)

good :)

Yes :)
I have a lift to the eating for sustainability forum tonight too :D

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Back already, leg bandaged, my quick leg fix op was cancelled.
The registrar looked at my ultrasound and decided that the dramatics of a general anaesthetic weren’t needed and as the split was on the smaller end of the scale of the tear sizes that need medical intervention, and that it was my calf muscle and not thigh, a compression stocking, physio and pain relief was the best option. Good! The less sharp things they can stick into me the better.
Now a physio appt to be made, leg measured and the stocking will be ordered from an orthotics place.

Yay yay yay :)

good :)

Yes :)
I have a lift to the eating for sustainability forum tonight too :D

excellent :)

I want a full report ;)

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

good :)

Yes :)
I have a lift to the eating for sustainability forum tonight too :D

excellent :)

I want a full report ;)

There’s a list on ‘eventbrite’ for all the forums and events happening. Handy site. I will take my camera.

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Yes :)
I have a lift to the eating for sustainability forum tonight too :D

excellent :)

I want a full report ;)

There’s a list on ‘eventbrite’ for all the forums and events happening. Handy site. I will take my camera.

here’s the details for tonights ..

Event Details

From 6.00pm: Enjoy organic food and drinks whilst checking out an expo showcasing our local sustainability and conservation focussed community groups. Find out what they do and how you can participate.

From 7.00pm: Vasili Kanidiadis from Vasili’s Garden will MC the panel forum, and you’ll hear about sustainable food production and consumption from these experts:
•Millie Ross: ‘Thrifty Gardens’ columnist with Gardening Australia magazine, senior researcher for ABC TV’s Gardening Australia and author of ‘The Thrifty Gardener’.
•Lauren Burns: OAM, Naturopath, Nutritionist, Herbalist (BHSc), Olympic Gold Medallist, Taekwondo. Sydney 2000 and author of ‘Food from a Loving Home’
•Rod May: Organic farmer of NASAA certified, family-run Captain’s Creek Farm, which produces organic fruit, nuts, vegetables and animal products.
•Professor Barbara Norman: Foundation Chair, Urban & Regional Planning, University of Canberra, Adjunct Professor ANU, Life Fellow Planning Institute of Australia, Chair, ACT Climate Change Council and Director of CURF (Canberra Urban and Regional Futures).

Happy Potter said:

here’s the details for tonights ..

Event Details

From 6.00pm: Enjoy organic food and drinks whilst checking out an expo showcasing our local sustainability and conservation focussed community groups. Find out what they do and how you can participate.

From 7.00pm: Vasili Kanidiadis from Vasili’s Garden will MC the panel forum, and you’ll hear about sustainable food production and consumption from these experts:
•Millie Ross: ‘Thrifty Gardens’ columnist with Gardening Australia magazine, senior researcher for ABC TV’s Gardening Australia and author of ‘The Thrifty Gardener’.
•Lauren Burns: OAM, Naturopath, Nutritionist, Herbalist (BHSc), Olympic Gold Medallist, Taekwondo. Sydney 2000 and author of ‘Food from a Loving Home’
•Rod May: Organic farmer of NASAA certified, family-run Captain’s Creek Farm, which produces organic fruit, nuts, vegetables and animal products.
•Professor Barbara Norman: Foundation Chair, Urban & Regional Planning, University of Canberra, Adjunct Professor ANU, Life Fellow Planning Institute of Australia, Chair, ACT Climate Change Council and Director of CURF (Canberra Urban and Regional Futures).

awesome!

Happy Potter said:

Back already, leg bandaged, my quick leg fix op was cancelled.
The registrar looked at my ultrasound and decided that the dramatics of a general anaesthetic weren’t needed and as the split was on the smaller end of the scale of the tear sizes that need medical intervention, and that it was my calf muscle and not thigh, a compression stocking, physio and pain relief was the best option. Good! The less sharp things they can stick into me the better.
Now a physio appt to be made, leg measured and the stocking will be ordered from an orthotics place.

Yay yay yay :)

Learning curve here…pleased the surgical intervention will be minimal, tho’…

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Yes :)
I have a lift to the eating for sustainability forum tonight too :D

excellent :)

I want a full report ;)

Same here, :)

eating sustainably..

roughbarked said:

eating sustainably..

yum :)

what did you make with that?

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

eating sustainably..

yum :)

what did you make with that?

ratatouie.

There is plenty left for making eggplant parmajana (spelling?)
Melanzani is good sliced and bottled in vinegar for later.

roughbarked said:

eating sustainably..

nice and our basil is hanging on too.

I tried to order those red broad beans thru’ diggers but they said they are out of stock? seemingly?.
I have seen them around in normal seed packets so I will keep looking.

roughbarked said:

eating sustainably..

Lovely healthy food :)

roughbarked said:

eating sustainably..

Did you polish them before you took the foto? Nice going anyway.

Happy Potter said:

Back already, leg bandaged, my quick leg fix op was cancelled.
The registrar looked at my ultrasound and decided that the dramatics of a general anaesthetic weren’t needed and as the split was on the smaller end of the scale of the tear sizes that need medical intervention, and that it was my calf muscle and not thigh, a compression stocking, physio and pain relief was the best option. Good! The less sharp things they can stick into me the better.
Now a physio appt to be made, leg measured and the stocking will be ordered from an orthotics place.

Yay yay yay :)

Glad it’s not quite so dramatic but what you have seems to be bad enough. Hope it’s right really quickly.

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

eating sustainably..

Did you polish them before you took the foto? Nice going anyway.

No polishing. As they came off the plants.

Just signing in for the day. Been up since some ungodly hour because we have a full day ahead. Mostly medical stuff. Even the dog has a vet app.

It’s overcast again but it made for a warmer night.

Tomatoes are nearly finished but the new lot is are on the way. S.beet and new beans looking good. Don’t seem to be getting many peas to pick but I’d reckon that is because of D and ZeeZee. ZeeZee loves peas and beans. Caulies are grub ridden. Fortunately we don’t eat the leaves that they ruin.

Time for some food.

pomolo said:

Just signing in for the day. Been up since some ungodly hour because we have a full day ahead. Mostly medical stuff. Even the dog has a vet app.

It’s overcast again but it made for a warmer night.

Tomatoes are nearly finished but the new lot is are on the way. S.beet and new beans looking good. Don’t seem to be getting many peas to pick but I’d reckon that is because of D and ZeeZee. ZeeZee loves peas and beans. Caulies are grub ridden. Fortunately we don’t eat the leaves that they ruin.

Time for some food.

Have a good one…at least the peas are being “et” by 50% of the intended beneficiaries…

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

here’s the details for tonights ..

Event Details

From 6.00pm: Enjoy organic food and drinks whilst checking out an expo showcasing our local sustainability and conservation focussed community groups. Find out what they do and how you can participate.

From 7.00pm: Vasili Kanidiadis from Vasili’s Garden will MC the panel forum, and you’ll hear about sustainable food production and consumption from these experts:
•Millie Ross: ‘Thrifty Gardens’ columnist with Gardening Australia magazine, senior researcher for ABC TV’s Gardening Australia and author of ‘The Thrifty Gardener’.
•Lauren Burns: OAM, Naturopath, Nutritionist, Herbalist (BHSc), Olympic Gold Medallist, Taekwondo. Sydney 2000 and author of ‘Food from a Loving Home’
•Rod May: Organic farmer of NASAA certified, family-run Captain’s Creek Farm, which produces organic fruit, nuts, vegetables and animal products.
•Professor Barbara Norman: Foundation Chair, Urban & Regional Planning, University of Canberra, Adjunct Professor ANU, Life Fellow Planning Institute of Australia, Chair, ACT Climate Change Council and Director of CURF (Canberra Urban and Regional Futures).

awesome!

Oooh, report not forthcoming so I shall be in big trouble. I hadn’t taken notes and forgot my b camera, but never mind I’ll take pics with my ph of the screen then read back. Only when I checked later the phone images on the screen came out blank!? Oh NO!
All I can do is urge you to attend if it happens anywhere near you.

The night was fantastic! so many passionate people gathered in one big room. Mille Ross was incredible, she spoke, I swear, without drawing a breath for 40 minutes while the others politely held us equally as spellbound for their allotted 15 minutes. They were all wonderful to listen to. Lauren Burns was amazing too. She brought along her Olympic god medal and we all got to ogle over and hold it.

Funniest part was trying to get home at a reasonable hour. With our car pool, we chatted no stop with renewed enthusiasm to grow even more of what we eat and have confidence to grow new things we haven’t before and help one another to do it.
There were five people in the car and by the first drop off, when we sat there chatting for another 30 mins, we’d organised a new gardening club, school garden help, and solved a problem for a lady who works long hours and has a huge one acre property devoid of green and no time to grow anything. She wanted to know if putting in an auto watering system over proposed vege beds and no time to actually spend tending it, would work. Well yes, a quick check would work. But..
My suggestion was to let those (like me) with small gardens with not enough room to grow more food, have access to create and look after food plants then share the produce with her. The idea was very well received. Problem solved, and now we have a new garden to create :)

By the time I got home at midnight, we had a farm in the planning, complete with a couple goats and a cow, and 200 chooks just for me, LOL.

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

here’s the details for tonights ..

Event Details

From 6.00pm: Enjoy organic food and drinks whilst checking out an expo showcasing our local sustainability and conservation focussed community groups. Find out what they do and how you can participate.

From 7.00pm: Vasili Kanidiadis from Vasili’s Garden will MC the panel forum, and you’ll hear about sustainable food production and consumption from these experts:
•Millie Ross: ‘Thrifty Gardens’ columnist with Gardening Australia magazine, senior researcher for ABC TV’s Gardening Australia and author of ‘The Thrifty Gardener’.
•Lauren Burns: OAM, Naturopath, Nutritionist, Herbalist (BHSc), Olympic Gold Medallist, Taekwondo. Sydney 2000 and author of ‘Food from a Loving Home’
•Rod May: Organic farmer of NASAA certified, family-run Captain’s Creek Farm, which produces organic fruit, nuts, vegetables and animal products.
•Professor Barbara Norman: Foundation Chair, Urban & Regional Planning, University of Canberra, Adjunct Professor ANU, Life Fellow Planning Institute of Australia, Chair, ACT Climate Change Council and Director of CURF (Canberra Urban and Regional Futures).

awesome!

Oooh, report not forthcoming so I shall be in big trouble. I hadn’t taken notes and forgot my b camera, but never mind I’ll take pics with my ph of the screen then read back. Only when I checked later the phone images on the screen came out blank!? Oh NO!
All I can do is urge you to attend if it happens anywhere near you.

The night was fantastic! so many passionate people gathered in one big room. Mille Ross was incredible, she spoke, I swear, without drawing a breath for 40 minutes while the others politely held us equally as spellbound for their allotted 15 minutes. They were all wonderful to listen to. Lauren Burns was amazing too. She brought along her Olympic god medal and we all got to ogle over and hold it.

Funniest part was trying to get home at a reasonable hour. With our car pool, we chatted no stop with renewed enthusiasm to grow even more of what we eat and have confidence to grow new things we haven’t before and help one another to do it.
There were five people in the car and by the first drop off, when we sat there chatting for another 30 mins, we’d organised a new gardening club, school garden help, and solved a problem for a lady who works long hours and has a huge one acre property devoid of green and no time to grow anything. She wanted to know if putting in an auto watering system over proposed vege beds and no time to actually spend tending it, would work. Well yes, a quick check would work. But..
My suggestion was to let those (like me) with small gardens with not enough room to grow more food, have access to create and look after food plants then share the produce with her. The idea was very well received. Problem solved, and now we have a new garden to create :)

By the time I got home at midnight, we had a farm in the planning, complete with a couple goats and a cow, and 200 chooks just for me, LOL.

good report – I was thinking it might be stuff you already knew.

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

here’s the details for tonights ..

Event Details

From 6.00pm: Enjoy organic food and drinks whilst checking out an expo showcasing our local sustainability and conservation focussed community groups. Find out what they do and how you can participate.

From 7.00pm: Vasili Kanidiadis from Vasili’s Garden will MC the panel forum, and you’ll hear about sustainable food production and consumption from these experts:
•Millie Ross: ‘Thrifty Gardens’ columnist with Gardening Australia magazine, senior researcher for ABC TV’s Gardening Australia and author of ‘The Thrifty Gardener’.
•Lauren Burns: OAM, Naturopath, Nutritionist, Herbalist (BHSc), Olympic Gold Medallist, Taekwondo. Sydney 2000 and author of ‘Food from a Loving Home’
•Rod May: Organic farmer of NASAA certified, family-run Captain’s Creek Farm, which produces organic fruit, nuts, vegetables and animal products.
•Professor Barbara Norman: Foundation Chair, Urban & Regional Planning, University of Canberra, Adjunct Professor ANU, Life Fellow Planning Institute of Australia, Chair, ACT Climate Change Council and Director of CURF (Canberra Urban and Regional Futures).

awesome!

Oooh, report not forthcoming so I shall be in big trouble. I hadn’t taken notes and forgot my b camera, but never mind I’ll take pics with my ph of the screen then read back. Only when I checked later the phone images on the screen came out blank!? Oh NO!
All I can do is urge you to attend if it happens anywhere near you.

The night was fantastic! so many passionate people gathered in one big room. Mille Ross was incredible, she spoke, I swear, without drawing a breath for 40 minutes while the others politely held us equally as spellbound for their allotted 15 minutes. They were all wonderful to listen to. Lauren Burns was amazing too. She brought along her Olympic god medal and we all got to ogle over and hold it.

Funniest part was trying to get home at a reasonable hour. With our car pool, we chatted no stop with renewed enthusiasm to grow even more of what we eat and have confidence to grow new things we haven’t before and help one another to do it.
There were five people in the car and by the first drop off, when we sat there chatting for another 30 mins, we’d organised a new gardening club, school garden help, and solved a problem for a lady who works long hours and has a huge one acre property devoid of green and no time to grow anything. She wanted to know if putting in an auto watering system over proposed vege beds and no time to actually spend tending it, would work. Well yes, a quick check would work. But..
My suggestion was to let those (like me) with small gardens with not enough room to grow more food, have access to create and look after food plants then share the produce with her. The idea was very well received. Problem solved, and now we have a new garden to create :)

By the time I got home at midnight, we had a farm in the planning, complete with a couple goats and a cow, and 200 chooks just for me, LOL.

Wouldn’t I love a benefactor. One who had the land and the money and wanted to give it to me to spend.

good report – I was thinking it might be stuff you already knew.
——————————-
Thankyou. Yes, except for a few things most was stuff we knew.

We were networking. Bringing all of the passion of same minded people in one room -powerful. What I came home with, and my friends agreed, was a renewed hope that not all in the world was going to hell.
There’s a hidden green army out there. Arms linked.
And I thought I’d heard and read every anti Monsanto utterance one could hear or see, but nothing like last nights.

Report finished and handed in, got to go to Mrs Daughters, poor girls now got tonsillitis. Day in bed for her, with antibiotics.

Happy Potter said:

By the time I got home at midnight, we had a farm in the planning, complete with a couple goats and a cow, and 200 chooks just for me, LOL.

:D

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

eating sustainably..

Did you polish them before you took the foto? Nice going anyway.

It doesn’t surprise you to be picking healthy eggplant and capsicum in June but it may surprise others.

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

By the time I got home at midnight, we had a farm in the planning, complete with a couple goats and a cow, and 200 chooks just for me, LOL.

:D

I had 20 chooks at my former place – they were in rotating chook pens – 20 chooks cleaned up a 20×16m yard in time for summer planting each year.
so 200 chooks could weed and fertilise 3200sq.m.

justin said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

By the time I got home at midnight, we had a farm in the planning, complete with a couple goats and a cow, and 200 chooks just for me, LOL.

:D

I had 20 chooks at my former place – they were in rotating chook pens – 20 chooks cleaned up a 20×16m yard in time for summer planting each year.
so 200 chooks could weed and fertilise 3200sq.m.

You’ll need to present that in triplicate against controls. ;)

roughbarked said:

justin said:

bluegreen said:

:D

I had 20 chooks at my former place – they were in rotating chook pens – 20 chooks cleaned up a 20×16m yard in time for summer planting each year.
so 200 chooks could weed and fertilise 3200sq.m.

You’ll need to present that in triplicate against controls. ;)

you’ll need 144 l.m of chook fencing as well.
I think 20 chooks is the legal limit everywhere without special permission.

P was told no limit on hens but no roosters allowed…I think the small allotments would be a consideration…

Stopped the council from mowing my footpath, he jumped out of his dinky little ride-on and had a chat, I think he was more interested in my dog…however he left the footpath alone and I have done a neat job of it tonight

:)

justin said:

roughbarked said:

justin said:

I had 20 chooks at my former place – they were in rotating chook pens – 20 chooks cleaned up a 20×16m yard in time for summer planting each year.
so 200 chooks could weed and fertilise 3200sq.m.

You’ll need to present that in triplicate against controls. ;)

you’ll need 144 l.m of chook fencing as well.
I think 20 chooks is the legal limit everywhere without special permission.

actually you’ll need 720 lineal metres (not144) for just one pen of 200 chooks. you would get 16 doz. eggs per day in season.

chooks are one of the great sustainable food sources – by eating all the edible food wastes they would substantially reduce overall waste.

justin said:

justin said:

roughbarked said:

You’ll need to present that in triplicate against controls. ;)

you’ll need 144 l.m of chook fencing as well.
I think 20 chooks is the legal limit everywhere without special permission.

actually you’ll need 720 lineal metres (not144) for just one pen of 200 chooks. you would get 16 doz. eggs per day in season.

chooks are one of the great sustainable food sources – by eating all the edible food wastes they would substantially reduce overall waste.

Bom Bom. I intend to sell eggs. Probably nearer to 50 chickens though lol.

I’ll list them on ripenear.me

10 mls of rain overnight. Eggplants are coming out today, chopping bit by bit anyway.

And try out just learnt lessons on pruning passionfruit. Find the leader and follow it along. No garden shears allowed! lol.

I’ll snip premature those apple blossoms off too. I know they won’t develop, but in my mind if left on they will set the tree back somewhat.

Happy Potter said:

10 mls of rain overnight. Eggplants are coming out today, chopping bit by bit anyway.

And try out just learnt lessons on pruning passionfruit. Find the leader and follow it along. No garden shears allowed! lol.

I’ll snip premature those apple blossoms off too. I know they won’t develop, but in my mind if left on they will set the tree back somewhat.

Um.. not had a coffee yet. ‘Those premature apple blossoms’. Yeah.

Happy Potter said:

I intend to sell eggs. Probably nearer to 50 chickens though lol.

I’ll list them on ripenear.me

do you need to be licensed for that?

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

I intend to sell eggs. Probably nearer to 50 chickens though lol.

I’ll list them on ripenear.me

do you need to be licensed for that?

No, this is just an initiative taken on by those who want to buy or sell home growns. I found a woman selling home grown eggs not too far and they are lovely eating and no more exp than in the shops. The eggs are clean and collected and refrigerated daily. I have one leghorn laying and one silkie.

Did some early weeding. Can’t believer all the new types that are starting to take hold round here. I always work on the assumption that if I get onto them early I’ll nip them in the bud but it hasn’t worked except with pig weed.

Some critter is eating all the bell hillies on the bushes. We don’t eat much chilli but I love the red bells hanging all over the bushes when they are ripe. A big dish full makes a nice table centre too. None left to work with this year. What ever is eating them comes every night, has it’s fill and takes off. It leaves the stalk and the centre membrane and seeds lying on the path.

Washing is done. We have a bit of weak sunshine today so I got in early. Dinner and desserts are made for the visitors that will be here on the weekend.

Am I efficient or what?

pomolo said:

Did some early weeding. Can’t believer all the new types that are starting to take hold round here. I always work on the assumption that if I get onto them early I’ll nip them in the bud but it hasn’t worked except with pig weed.

Some critter is eating all the bell hillies on the bushes. We don’t eat much chilli but I love the red bells hanging all over the bushes when they are ripe. A big dish full makes a nice table centre too. None left to work with this year. What ever is eating them comes every night, has it’s fill and takes off. It leaves the stalk and the centre membrane and seeds lying on the path.

Washing is done. We have a bit of weak sunshine today so I got in early. Dinner and desserts are made for the visitors that will be here on the weekend.

Am I efficient or what?

Might be possums. Got grandson coming to visit this weekend so I am cleaning up, bit by bit. Got the toilet and bathroom done but need to do the floors still. Still trying to figure out what I am going to feed them.

pomolo said:

Did some early weeding. … …

Washing is done. We have a bit of weak sunshine today so I got in early. Dinner and desserts are made for the visitors that will be here on the weekend.

Am I efficient or what?

YAY!! fairy claps

bluegreen said:

Got grandson coming to visit this weekend so I am cleaning up, bit by bit. Got the toilet and bathroom done but need to do the floors still. Still trying to figure out what I am going to feed them.

Yep, I have that issue when there’s more than 2 of us here…gone from catering to 7 to catering to 1/2, here…

… so now I have all this dry grass dust up my nostrils, after whippersnippering down the back…

Sunny and mild out. I have a macaroon making class going with youngest daughter and her friends. They are doing very well. They are going to make a tower out of them. I left them to it and went out the front and planted out another 150 garlic cloves.

I’m still hopping and limping about, but my leg is better. Max has improved all he can and in 2 days we withdraw the tablets and ear medications he is on. I’ll be holding my breath.

Hello Gardeners. We now have a trailer of long bits of very heavy wood. Tomorrow the Scary Saw will be put into action to reduce them to shorter bits of very heavy wood. At some future time the hydraulic splitter will do a further reduction.

Just got an email from my US sister who teaches special needs teenagers. Three of her charges will be graduating tomorrow and she is to accompany one of them across the stage. She has sent us a link to watch, if we want to. She still has her sense of humour, despite over 20 years in Houston:

“The first 30-45 minutes will be introductions and speeches but once they start running through names it should move along pretty well. Just to avoid confusion the students will all be wearing green robes and the faculty (that’s me) wear black. I really think that if you can’t tell me from a tall 16 year old African American kid I’ve been away too long……”

buffy said:

I really think that if you can’t tell me from a tall 16 year old African American kid I’ve been away too long……”

Nothing like a heads-up to stave off embarrassment…

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

I intend to sell eggs. Probably nearer to 50 chickens though lol.

I’ll list them on ripenear.me

do you need to be licensed for that?

Local council might se it as running a small bus. from home though ?

Thee’s Estate said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

I intend to sell eggs. Probably nearer to 50 chickens though lol.

I’ll list them on ripenear.me

do you need to be licensed for that?

Local council might se it as running a small bus. from home though ?

It won’t be at home though, it’ll be from my friends farm. They already have a demand and can’t keep up.

Arghhhhhh!
Large ovens stopped working :( It’s the element, it was warped from a previous bash and crash GS rage. Ringing Ilve in the morn. Baking off for the day. We still have the small oven, it can take a whole roast but round cake tins don’t fit.
grumpy

Happy Potter said:

Arghhhhhh!
Large ovens stopped working :( It’s the element, it was warped from a previous bash and crash GS rage. Ringing Ilve in the morn. Baking off for the day. We still have the small oven, it can take a whole roast but round cake tins don’t fit.
grumpy

Yes, I would be too…

The church is having celebrations, 125 years…went to the dinner last night, here’s my wedding photo on the wall…along with other wedding photos…signing my freedom away…went to church this morning, they have set up a collectors’ corner where the baptismal font used to be, but Fashionasta daughter became distraught, she has not been in that church since my mother’s funeral 2 years ago…just broke down completely so back home we came…she does not cope as well with some stresses as other people do, P says she’s “precious” but it’s just the way she is…so she is reading a Georgette Heyer whoo-dunnit to cheer herself up….

It has been nice having her out for the 24 hours, Shadow with thrilled with the run with her yesterday…we have lunch shortly and then she starts the 4 hour trip back home…she also enabled me to take some photos of Pancho and I might be able to organise to make these available on the internet…

Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

Arghhhhhh!
Large ovens stopped working :( It’s the element, it was warped from a previous bash and crash GS rage. Ringing Ilve in the morn. Baking off for the day. We still have the small oven, it can take a whole roast but round cake tins don’t fit.
grumpy

Yes, I would be too…

reminds me of when the other half used the oven to heat up a motor bike part (made it easier to slip over a bearing or something.) Well I just handed him the oven cleaner and said you clean it. Well, the complaints I heard over how he didn’t like the fumes etc. The end result? He damaged something and it didn’t work after that. Took years before I got a new oven too.

Hello Gardeners. So far the day is going to plan, although I suspect I’ve done a whole day’s worth already. Managed to get out the door for a walk by 7.40, did the up and over Mt Rouse walk that we haven’t done for over a year. Took an hour and 10 minutes, used to be an hour. Not too shabby really. Then breakfast at the cafe – I had a pastie and salad…..in anticipation of the following docking of a large trailer load of lengths of wood. Done and stacked. Noticed the horseradish had died back, so of course I had to tip it out of it’s pot while I saw it. Not a fabulous harvest, and now I’ve had to do some looking up about what to do with it. I’ll pop one bit in a bag in the fridge for now, and peel and grate the other bit into a jar with vinegar. It’s supposed to be very pungent…..anyone vouch for that?

buffy said:

Noticed the horseradish had died back, … … It’s supposed to be very pungent…..anyone vouch for that?

Love horseradish, prefer it to mustard…

bluegreen said:

reminds me of when the other half used the oven to heat up a motor bike part (made it easier to slip over a bearing or something.) Well I just handed him the oven cleaner and said you clean it. Well, the complaints I heard over how he didn’t like the fumes etc. The end result? He damaged something and it didn’t work after that. Took years before I got a new oven too.

He didn’t like the fumes??? Humph!!

OK, so I’ve microplane grated a bit of horseradish root and put it into a jar with vinegar for future use. It didn’t make my eyes run or anything. Maybe I haven’t got particularly plants. The variegated one produced much better roots than the ‘normal’ one. Perhaps I should have left it longer. I just waited for the leaves to die off and I tipped them out.

bluegreen said:

pomolo said:

Did some early weeding. Can’t believer all the new types that are starting to take hold round here. I always work on the assumption that if I get onto them early I’ll nip them in the bud but it hasn’t worked except with pig weed.

Some critter is eating all the bell hillies on the bushes. We don’t eat much chilli but I love the red bells hanging all over the bushes when they are ripe. A big dish full makes a nice table centre too. None left to work with this year. What ever is eating them comes every night, has it’s fill and takes off. It leaves the stalk and the centre membrane and seeds lying on the path.

Washing is done. We have a bit of weak sunshine today so I got in early. Dinner and desserts are made for the visitors that will be here on the weekend.

Am I efficient or what?

Might be possums. Got grandson coming to visit this weekend so I am cleaning up, bit by bit. Got the toilet and bathroom done but need to do the floors still. Still trying to figure out what I am going to feed them.

You could be right about possums. Whatever it is it has to cross over the top of the tank to reach the chillies. Hope your grandchild bonding went as well as things went with our visitors.

Went and did over the 6 garden display in Maleny yesterday. I found it very disappointing actually. All very big gardens on a couple of acres or so. All had had a recent makeover because of this open day is my guess. Maybe I’m being judgemental but I bet they paid someone to come in a mow and prune last week to make the places look better.

Give me one of the Aust Open Gardens in preference. Mo0st of those owners are keen gardeners for 365 days a year. At least the money we paid to see these gardens is going to a worthy cause.

Family visitors have gone now so I will strip the beds (again) I’m sure where our address appears there must be a B & B sign beside it.

pomolo said:

Hope your grandchild bonding went as well as things went with our visitors.

yep :D :D

Happy Potter said:

justin said:

justin said:

you’ll need 144 l.m of chook fencing as well.
I think 20 chooks is the legal limit everywhere without special permission.

actually you’ll need 720 lineal metres (not144) for just one pen of 200 chooks. you would get 16 doz. eggs per day in season.

chooks are one of the great sustainable food sources – by eating all the edible food wastes they would substantially reduce overall waste.

Bom Bom. I intend to sell eggs. Probably nearer to 50 chickens though lol.

I’ll list them on ripenear.me

when you and the others are decided on what next – have a chat with the council – they love new enterprises springing up in their area.
…and that ‘sustainable’ word will have them drooling.

buffy said:

Hello Gardeners. So far the day is going to plan, although I suspect I’ve done a whole day’s worth already. Managed to get out the door for a walk by 7.40, did the up and over Mt Rouse walk that we haven’t done for over a year. Took an hour and 10 minutes, used to be an hour. Not too shabby really. Then breakfast at the cafe – I had a pastie and salad…..in anticipation of the following docking of a large trailer load of lengths of wood. Done and stacked. Noticed the horseradish had died back, so of course I had to tip it out of it’s pot while I saw it. Not a fabulous harvest, and now I’ve had to do some looking up about what to do with it. I’ll pop one bit in a bag in the fridge for now, and peel and grate the other bit into a jar with vinegar. It’s supposed to be very pungent…..anyone vouch for that?

good walking.
I must grow horseradish again because I have forgotten all I knew. I think peeling the roots did make the eyes water – or at least the hands that did the peeling were pungent?

I grated the horseradish into a jar with some vinegar. Now I just have to work out what to do with it. It didn’t seem to be overly pungent, I had a pretty good sniff.

buffy said:

I grated the horseradish into a jar with some vinegar. Now I just have to work out what to do with it. It didn’t seem to be overly pungent, I had a pretty good sniff.

mm … I’m not sure – maybe harvest in summer next time – for greater pungency and bigger tubers.
meanwhile save the little roots for propagation. it does grow in cold areas – and pretty well too.

Apparently Maurice Sendak gets a “Google Doodle” for his 85th birthday today…

Call up the Google search page and you will see the logo in the top left hand corner…

Dinetta said:

Apparently Maurice Sendak gets a “Google Doodle” for his 85th birthday today…

Call up the Google search page and you will see the logo in the top left hand corner…

Click on this logo / picture, and you can get a small video (vide-let?) to play…

Dinetta said:

Dinetta said:

Apparently Maurice Sendak gets a “Google Doodle” for his 85th birthday today…

Call up the Google search page and you will see the logo in the top left hand corner…

Click on this logo / picture, and you can get a small video (vide-let?) to play…

click on the “play” arrow and you get a you beaut panorama :)

Hello Gardeners. According to my next door neighbour, public holidays are for just pottering around. (I find that a bit odd….she’s been retired for many years, why would a public holiday be any different from any other day?) I seem to have somewhat extended that. I decided my bike ride would be better than another long walk today (for variety), and of course I then had to go for a coffee. I started doing the rose pruning. Which became some mowing. Which then became planting out a couple of plants. A few more bits and pieces to do. Might do some journal reading later.

I’m at the horse paddock in 20 mins with loads of bags. I’d hook the trailer up to the mans car but I can’t get it out for kiddlywinks cars. They’re invading my space lol.
My leg is feeling heaps better. The manures not for my garden, for a young mums flower beds.

The next lot will be a trailer load for my nature strip. I’ve methodically and lightly dug the nature strip, using whatever good limb I have left lol, lifted the top 2 inches of kikuyu and weeds breaking the roots.
Subsequent digs will break it further then lots of raking times a hundred goes, to get it cleared. Then pile the manure and other goodies, chook coop poop, and let it rest until spring. Chooks will get the weeds. Then the 3 lilly pillys will be planted out there. They are a metre high in their pots now.

Back with my car stuffed full of bags of manure. That was easy going actually, but the pile was high and I used my easy gathering method.. a 25 lt bucket with the bottom cut off inserted into the bag opening and scrape the manure in with my 3 claw garden hand tool. Once the bucket is full pull it upright and the bag is full, no spills and not too heavy. Easy peasy.

My friend only wants 5 bags so I’ll tip the other 7 or 8 out for chooks to de bug. It’s be a slater feast for them :)

Happy Potter said:

Back with my car stuffed full of bags of manure. That was easy going actually, but the pile was high and I used my easy gathering method.. a 25 lt bucket with the bottom cut off inserted into the bag opening and scrape the manure in with my 3 claw garden hand tool. Once the bucket is full pull it upright and the bag is full, no spills and not too heavy. Easy peasy.

My friend only wants 5 bags so I’ll tip the other 7 or 8 out for chooks to de bug. It’s be a slater feast for them :)

Necessity is the Mother of Invention, what? That’s a great solution to the floppy bag-tops…

It doesn’t look like I’m going to get that Volunteer position with the Museum…they would have had more applicants than they knew what to do with…

Dinetta said:

It doesn’t look like I’m going to get that Volunteer position with the Museum…they would have had more applicants than they knew what to do with…

doesn’t matter.. if your name is on the list and they really want talent.. they’ll pick you from the madding crowd.

Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

Back with my car stuffed full of bags of manure. That was easy going actually, but the pile was high and I used my easy gathering method.. a 25 lt bucket with the bottom cut off inserted into the bag opening and scrape the manure in with my 3 claw garden hand tool. Once the bucket is full pull it upright and the bag is full, no spills and not too heavy. Easy peasy.

My friend only wants 5 bags so I’ll tip the other 7 or 8 out for chooks to de bug. It’s be a slater feast for them :)

Necessity is the Mother of Invention, what? That’s a great solution to the floppy bag-tops…

And the couple inches I sawed off the bucket bottom makes a great chook feed dish. No waste here :)

Happy Potter said:

Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

Back with my car stuffed full of bags of manure. That was easy going actually, but the pile was high and I used my easy gathering method.. a 25 lt bucket with the bottom cut off inserted into the bag opening and scrape the manure in with my 3 claw garden hand tool. Once the bucket is full pull it upright and the bag is full, no spills and not too heavy. Easy peasy.

My friend only wants 5 bags so I’ll tip the other 7 or 8 out for chooks to de bug. It’s be a slater feast for them :)

Necessity is the Mother of Invention, what? That’s a great solution to the floppy bag-tops…

And the couple inches I sawed off the bucket bottom makes a great chook feed dish. No waste here :)

I have to keep looking in the bin for such stuff. For even if it is obvious that I’ve cut it for some person.. SWMBE, thinks everything fits the bin better.

Woohoo, no shortage of able-bodied men around here. Several showed up, garden forks in hand, some old and decrepit, (some eye candy too ;) ) and they dug up the rest of the nature strip for me. They wanted the fast jumper worms in exchange..plenty of them here, so a couple set about digging for them and got heaps too.

The man went to an appliance shop to get the oven element, $95, and that was just one. There’s another grilling element that sits inside the wider oven one but it was fine.

Well he got the stove pulled out and apart, put the new element in then put it all back together.. and it doesn’t work. He’s assuming he has the electrical contacts on wrong..at this point in time I’m worried. I warned him if he blows this cooker up, then not only is he going to get me a new one (at about 8 grand) but I’ll also exchange him for one of those eye candy blokes I saw earlier. ;)

Happy Potter said:

Woohoo, no shortage of able-bodied men around here. Several showed up, garden forks in hand, some old and decrepit, (some eye candy too ;) ) and they dug up the rest of the nature strip for me. They wanted the fast jumper worms in exchange..plenty of them here, so a couple set about digging for them and got heaps too.

The man went to an appliance shop to get the oven element, $95, and that was just one. There’s another grilling element that sits inside the wider oven one but it was fine.

Well he got the stove pulled out and apart, put the new element in then put it all back together.. and it doesn’t work. He’s assuming he has the electrical contacts on wrong..at this point in time I’m worried. I warned him if he blows this cooker up, then not only is he going to get me a new one (at about 8 grand) but I’ll also exchange him for one of those eye candy blokes I saw earlier. ;)

Right, I won that argument. Service dept will get a call in the morning.

Happy Potter said:

Happy Potter said:

Woohoo, no shortage of able-bodied men around here. Several showed up, garden forks in hand, some old and decrepit, (some eye candy too ;) ) and they dug up the rest of the nature strip for me. They wanted the fast jumper worms in exchange..plenty of them here, so a couple set about digging for them and got heaps too.

The man went to an appliance shop to get the oven element, $95, and that was just one. There’s another grilling element that sits inside the wider oven one but it was fine.

Well he got the stove pulled out and apart, put the new element in then put it all back together.. and it doesn’t work. He’s assuming he has the electrical contacts on wrong..at this point in time I’m worried. I warned him if he blows this cooker up, then not only is he going to get me a new one (at about 8 grand) but I’ll also exchange him for one of those eye candy blokes I saw earlier. ;)

Right, I won that argument. Service dept will get a call in the morning.

lol!

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

Good morning Gardeners. Not so cold here this morning, 8 degrees and now a sort of misty rainy stuff. Very dull. I’ll head off to Casterton shortly, when my receptionist arrives. My Hamilton people are going to be a bit miffed today…the office is staying closed because my Hamilton receptionist has to keep her injured ankle up for another day. The doctor gave her a certificate for 3 days, but she is going to come back tomorrow and sit at her desk with her foot up. She’s a busy sort of person, so being home and not being able to do stuff will be frustrating the hell out of her. I’m happy for her to do the phone answering and paperwork stuff and Mr buffy will come in with me and be her runner.

Ways and means, ways and means.

:)

My goodness, what did she do to her ancle?

buffy said:

Good morning Gardeners. Not so cold here this morning, 8 degrees and now a sort of misty rainy stuff. Very dull. I’ll head off to Casterton shortly, when my receptionist arrives. My Hamilton people are going to be a bit miffed today…the office is staying closed because my Hamilton receptionist has to keep her injured ankle up for another day. The doctor gave her a certificate for 3 days, but she is going to come back tomorrow and sit at her desk with her foot up. She’s a busy sort of person, so being home and not being able to do stuff will be frustrating the hell out of her. I’m happy for her to do the phone answering and paperwork stuff and Mr buffy will come in with me and be her runner.

Ways and means, ways and means.

:)

:)

Looks like rain..
And quite a dump of it is expected over the next couple days so I’ve been warned. I emptied the IBC tank on dried out parts to keep them from repelling water and the rest drained onto the lawn area.
Going to move Lin Lin and her chicks pen to a higher part of the garden today.

I have visitors at 11 ish, so a kitchen floor clean is in order, and a batch of scones. I have strawberry jam and whipped cream :)

Happy Potter said:

Looks like rain..
And quite a dump of it is expected over the next couple days so I’ve been warned. I emptied the IBC tank on dried out parts to keep them from repelling water and the rest drained onto the lawn area.
Going to move Lin Lin and her chicks pen to a higher part of the garden today.

I have visitors at 11 ish, so a kitchen floor clean is in order, and a batch of scones. I have strawberry jam and whipped cream :)

Rain passed that way overnight.. 7 mm here.

roughbarked said:

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

OK gardeners, I wonder if you agree.. I think it is likely Osmanthus decorus?

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

OK gardeners, I wonder if you agree.. I think it is likely Osmanthus decorus?

But the jury is still out.. Osmanthus delavayi is more commonly grown in Australia and probably better fits much of the description though it is also likely that the two could be hybridized.

The part about it being assumed to be a holly that reverted to the rootstock can be explained by the fact that younger plants of these species are known to have holly shaped prickly leaves. Some species retain such leaves into adulthood, some don’t.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

OK gardeners, I wonder if you agree.. I think it is likely Osmanthus decorus?

The leaves in the second photo look shiny compared to the leaves in the first?

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

OK gardeners, I wonder if you agree.. I think it is likely Osmanthus decorus?

The leaves in the second photo look shiny compared to the leaves in the first?

Yep. I’d looked at that which was why I went further to talk about hybrids and closely related species. Photos are never exact ways to ID.

Just in case any of you horti-people didn’t know.. http://en.hortipedia.com/wiki/

Arvo all. I’ve been working in the light rain spreading more gypsum onto the nature strip, as ordered. And weeding the front in general. Seeing as I was already wet, I could only get wetter lol. Hot shower and coffee and I’m warm again. My visiting friend left very happy with five bags of manure and an unused aquarium I had under a desk for months. Glad to see it’ll be used again. It was too big for my needs.

The Ilve oven bloke will be here Friday. Yay.

3 eggs today from Blondie and the two silkies. We has food!

roughbarked said:

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

Osmanthus fragrens (maybe)

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

OK gardeners, I wonder if you agree.. I think it is likely Osmanthus decorus?

I could be wrong of course.

I missed a day again. Lots to catchup on too you chatty lot. We moved a cyad palm yesterday. Took advantage of the softened soil and dug it out. It has been squashed between two cycas revoluta and it was losing ground fast. It’s somewhere between 16 and 25 years old and I wasn’t going to let it die. What a job. No wonder those things have existed since the days of the dinosaurs. They have a hell of a hold on the ground. Anyway it is done now. I just hope that the transplant is successful. Only time will tell now.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

OK gardeners, I wonder if you agree.. I think it is likely Osmanthus decorus?

It may already be answered but they don’t look the same to me. The leaves look different with the veins more apparent in the second one, and the flowers reflex in the former but not the latter.

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

OK gardeners, I wonder if you agree.. I think it is likely Osmanthus decorus?

It may already be answered but they don’t look the same to me. The leaves look different with the veins more apparent in the second one, and the flowers reflex in the former but not the latter.

Ah yes. I’m fairly sure that the original is a hybrid.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

OK gardeners, I wonder if you agree.. I think it is likely Osmanthus decorus?

It may already be answered but they don’t look the same to me. The leaves look different with the veins more apparent in the second one, and the flowers reflex in the former but not the latter.

Ah yes. I’m fairly sure that the original is a hybrid.

I actually put up a submission that it could be Osmanthus fragrans but I must have missed the submit button. I have one growing here. Beautiful perfume.

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

I’m going to try fixing the oven element tomorrow. Wish me luck.

Also.. Do we have a wotami thread here? A friend asked me. This bush he reckons used to be a Holly and after they pruned it back one year it reverted to this.

Has blue/purple drupes that are not very big from memory. It grows about 1.5 m x 1.5 m. The flowers would have a greater diameter if the petals didn’t curl back so far and I haven’t measured them but at a guess the flower in this image is less than half a centimetre.

The flowers are in small bunches at each node near the tips of branches. The perfume is quite pleasant and strong but not overpowering, a bit like a jasmine x daphne.

A couple of other photos here http://www.flickr.com/photos/99559986@N00/sets/72157634058082395/with/9013506028/

I’m no expert on non-natives.

Osmanthus fragrens (maybe)

found it. Doh!

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

It may already be answered but they don’t look the same to me. The leaves look different with the veins more apparent in the second one, and the flowers reflex in the former but not the latter.

Ah yes. I’m fairly sure that the original is a hybrid.

I actually put up a submission that it could be Osmanthus fragrans but I must have missed the submit button. I have one growing here. Beautiful perfume.

You did put it in and I did see it but C.fragrans has bigger flowers, bigger leaves and grows to a greater morphology. Also is often orange rather than white.

It is a little difficult trying to do this from photographs on the internet.. Many plants grow slightly differently in different locations.

http://www.greatplantpicks.org/plantlists/view/1058

http://www.suncrestnurseries.com/specialistdescrpt/osmanthushs.html

Anyway, an old mystery may soon be closer to a solution? Probably not, if they fed him to the pigs.

http://www.areanews.com.au/story/1568428/exclusive-pics-police-dig-for-donald-mackays-body/?cs=12

roughbarked said:

Anyway, an old mystery may soon be closer to a solution? Probably not, if they fed him to the pigs.

http://www.areanews.com.au/story/1568428/exclusive-pics-police-dig-for-donald-mackays-body/?cs=12

That’s gross!! How would they get rid of the skull and rest of the skellington?

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, an old mystery may soon be closer to a solution? Probably not, if they fed him to the pigs.

http://www.areanews.com.au/story/1568428/exclusive-pics-police-dig-for-donald-mackays-body/?cs=12

That’s gross!! How would they get rid of the skull and rest of the skellington?

Historical evidence shows that only teeth and jewellery survive. Oh and this case maybe at least one of three bullets.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, an old mystery may soon be closer to a solution? Probably not, if they fed him to the pigs.

http://www.areanews.com.au/story/1568428/exclusive-pics-police-dig-for-donald-mackays-body/?cs=12

That’s gross!! How would they get rid of the skull and rest of the skellington?

Historical evidence shows that only teeth and jewellery survive. Oh and this case maybe at least one of three bullets.

“The Maude Road would be lucky if it has five cars go up it an hour and a couple of trucks,” he said.

“I actually sent a text message to my wife saying it resembled the CityLink in Melbourne, there’s been that much traffic coming up and down the road, people having a bit of a look.

“And I actually got a few funny looks myself, so I’m sure a few people in town – being that we are Italian – may think that we have some kind of involvement.”

The neighbouring property is owned by Con Fattore.

The ABC has been unable to reach Mr Fattore for comment, but Mr Mirabelli says neither of their families has any connection to the murder.

Police expect the search to continue for at least the rest of the week.

roughbarked said:

Just in case any of you horti-people didn’t know.. http://en.hortipedia.com/wiki/

bookmarked thanks

pomolo said:

I missed a day again. Lots to catchup on too you chatty lot. We moved a cyad palm yesterday. Took advantage of the softened soil and dug it out. It has been squashed between two cycas revoluta and it was losing ground fast. It’s somewhere between 16 and 25 years old and I wasn’t going to let it die. What a job. No wonder those things have existed since the days of the dinosaurs. They have a hell of a hold on the ground. Anyway it is done now. I just hope that the transplant is successful. Only time will tell now.

digging out tree trunks was always the hardest job in the garden – there’s two down here if you want to keep your hands in – well done youse.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, an old mystery may soon be closer to a solution? Probably not, if they fed him to the pigs.

http://www.areanews.com.au/story/1568428/exclusive-pics-police-dig-for-donald-mackays-body/?cs=12

That’s gross!! How would they get rid of the skull and rest of the skellington?

Historical evidence shows that only teeth and jewellery survive. Oh and this case maybe at least one of three bullets.

geez – they’ll need time team

justin said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

That’s gross!! How would they get rid of the skull and rest of the skellington?

Historical evidence shows that only teeth and jewellery survive. Oh and this case maybe at least one of three bullets.

geez – they’ll need time team

Yair.. I doubt they’ll limit themselves to three days per dig though.

It all fits though, so if there is a scrap of evidence to be found, they’ll probably find it somewhere near where they are looking.

roughbarked said:

It all fits though, so if there is a scrap of evidence to be found, they’ll probably find it somewhere near where they are looking.

I would hope that Karma has bitten some of the perpetrators by now…

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

It all fits though, so if there is a scrap of evidence to be found, they’ll probably find it somewhere near where they are looking.

I would hope that Karma has bitten some of the perpetrators by now…

Being as I am.. connected in some small way to almost every name mentioned in relation to this case.. I am well aware that most of the people involved have already gone to the afterlife without ever having been caught.. Most died from cancer so they didn’t really enjoy their ill gotten gains, their children are either in boob getting a college degree(as they put it) or involved in messy divorces.

justin said:

pomolo said:

I missed a day again. Lots to catchup on too you chatty lot. We moved a cyad palm yesterday. Took advantage of the softened soil and dug it out. It has been squashed between two cycas revoluta and it was losing ground fast. It’s somewhere between 16 and 25 years old and I wasn’t going to let it die. What a job. No wonder those things have existed since the days of the dinosaurs. They have a hell of a hold on the ground. Anyway it is done now. I just hope that the transplant is successful. Only time will tell now.

digging out tree trunks was always the hardest job in the garden – there’s two down here if you want to keep your hands in – well done youse.

think we’ll pass on that one thanks Pepe/Justin.

pomolo said:

justin said:

pomolo said:

I missed a day again. Lots to catchup on too you chatty lot. We moved a cyad palm yesterday. Took advantage of the softened soil and dug it out. It has been squashed between two cycas revoluta and it was losing ground fast. It’s somewhere between 16 and 25 years old and I wasn’t going to let it die. What a job. No wonder those things have existed since the days of the dinosaurs. They have a hell of a hold on the ground. Anyway it is done now. I just hope that the transplant is successful. Only time will tell now.

digging out tree trunks was always the hardest job in the garden – there’s two down here if you want to keep your hands in – well done youse.

think we’ll pass on that one thanks Pepe/Justin.

shove a quarter of a plug under them and detonate it.. lifts the stump fractures the soil down deep and fills the cracks with nitrogen.

roughbarked said:

Being as I am.. connected in some small way to almost every name mentioned in relation to this case.. I am well aware that most of the people involved have already gone to the afterlife without ever having been caught.. Most died from cancer so they didn’t really enjoy their ill gotten gains, their children are either in boob getting a college degree(as they put it) or involved in messy divorces.

Reckon Karma got ‘em…besides stirring the pot, what damage was MacKay ever going to do to them? What does “in boob” mean?

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

justin said:

digging out tree trunks was always the hardest job in the garden – there’s two down here if you want to keep your hands in – well done youse.

think we’ll pass on that one thanks Pepe/Justin.

shove a quarter of a plug under them and detonate it.. lifts the stump fractures the soil down deep and fills the cracks with nitrogen.

this cycas was about 2mts from the house. Where would we live?

roughbarked said:

shove a quarter of a plug under them and detonate it.. lifts the stump fractures the soil down deep and fills the cracks with nitrogen.

Isn’t that kind of what irrigation farmers do? Annually? And they call it fertilising?

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Being as I am.. connected in some small way to almost every name mentioned in relation to this case.. I am well aware that most of the people involved have already gone to the afterlife without ever having been caught.. Most died from cancer so they didn’t really enjoy their ill gotten gains, their children are either in boob getting a college degree(as they put it) or involved in messy divorces.

Reckon Karma got ‘em…besides stirring the pot, what damage was MacKay ever going to do to them? What does “in boob” mean?

college or boob refers to jail or gaol.

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

think we’ll pass on that one thanks Pepe/Justin.

shove a quarter of a plug under them and detonate it.. lifts the stump fractures the soil down deep and fills the cracks with nitrogen.

this cycas was about 2mts from the house. Where would we live?

If one knows how to play with explosives al that would happen to the house would be a rain of dirt.

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

shove a quarter of a plug under them and detonate it.. lifts the stump fractures the soil down deep and fills the cracks with nitrogen.

Isn’t that kind of what irrigation farmers do? Annually? And they call it fertilising?

yep.

roughbarked said:

college or boob refers to jail or gaol.

Oh, I didn’t know that…derr…uninformed but definitely washed, I am…

I did know that “social work” is an euphemism, at times, for prostitution…

roughbarked said:

If one knows how to play with explosives al that would happen to the house would be a rain of dirt.

Another of your hitherto unsuspected talents?

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

shove a quarter of a plug under them and detonate it.. lifts the stump fractures the soil down deep and fills the cracks with nitrogen.

this cycas was about 2mts from the house. Where would we live?

If one knows how to play with explosives al that would happen to the house would be a rain of dirt.

I must have lead a quiet life. Explosives weren’t in my education.

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

college or boob refers to jail or gaol.

Oh, I didn’t know that…derr…uninformed but definitely washed, I am…

I did know that “social work” is an euphemism, at times, for prostitution…

working streets and wedding rings are somehow much the same.. a line from a redgum song.

Not changing the topic, just a stage whisper here…but I have been thanked for my offer to volunteer and have been asked to attend the local hysterical museum to assist with researching…gosh I hope I can hear ‘em…

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

If one knows how to play with explosives al that would happen to the house would be a rain of dirt.

Another of your hitherto unsuspected talents?

well, I have done a bit of it .. yeah.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

college or boob refers to jail or gaol.

Oh, I didn’t know that…derr…uninformed but definitely washed, I am…

I did know that “social work” is an euphemism, at times, for prostitution…

working streets and wedding rings are somehow much the same.. a line from a redgum song.

The wedding ring work is more steady, IMHO…

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

this cycas was about 2mts from the house. Where would we live?

If one knows how to play with explosives al that would happen to the house would be a rain of dirt.

I must have lead a quiet life. Explosives weren’t in my education.

It is generally boys who love to bang things.

in hysterics.. eh

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

If one knows how to play with explosives al that would happen to the house would be a rain of dirt.

Another of your hitherto unsuspected talents?

well, I have done a bit of it .. yeah.

Perhaps we should not enquire further, on the grounds you might incriminate yourself???

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Oh, I didn’t know that…derr…uninformed but definitely washed, I am…

I did know that “social work” is an euphemism, at times, for prostitution…

working streets and wedding rings are somehow much the same.. a line from a redgum song.

The wedding ring work is more steady, IMHO…

There is that.

Dinetta said:

Not changing the topic, just a stage whisper here…but I have been thanked for my offer to volunteer and have been asked to attend the local hysterical museum to assist with researching…gosh I hope I can hear ‘em…

Good for you. I truely understand your problem with hearing. It makes meetings far from relaxing doesn’t it?

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

If one knows how to play with explosives al that would happen to the house would be a rain of dirt.

I must have lead a quiet life. Explosives weren’t in my education.

It is generally boys who love to bang things.

Yep, I was always a tomboy when younger…loved firecrackers…not allowed near more meaningful explosives because of my “experimental” nature…which I considered curiosity…“what would happen if…”

roughbarked said:

in hysterics.. eh

Yep, they’re planning to tell “stories”…

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Another of your hitherto unsuspected talents?

well, I have done a bit of it .. yeah.

Perhaps we should not enquire further, on the grounds you might incriminate yourself???

Perfectly legitimate to obtain a shot firers permit.

pomolo said:

Dinetta said:

Not changing the topic, just a stage whisper here…but I have been thanked for my offer to volunteer and have been asked to attend the local hysterical museum to assist with researching…gosh I hope I can hear ‘em…

Good for you. I truely understand your problem with hearing. It makes meetings far from relaxing doesn’t it?

Thanks. At group gatherings, I tend to focus on the best-spoken person and follow the conversation from their utterances…

pomolo said:

Dinetta said:

Not changing the topic, just a stage whisper here…but I have been thanked for my offer to volunteer and have been asked to attend the local hysterical museum to assist with researching…gosh I hope I can hear ‘em…

Good for you. I truely understand your problem with hearing. It makes meetings far from relaxing doesn’t it?

An old hand at trying to hear things and make cover ups for missing things. Have had almost fifty years making one ear do all the work.

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

well, I have done a bit of it .. yeah.

Perhaps we should not enquire further, on the grounds you might incriminate yourself???

Perfectly legitimate to obtain a shot firers permit.

OMG, a shot firer? Coal mines can’t operate without one on site…

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

Perhaps we should not enquire further, on the grounds you might incriminate yourself???

Perfectly legitimate to obtain a shot firers permit.

OMG, a shot firer? Coal mines can’t operate without one on site…

all part of my skill set.

roughbarked said:

An old hand at trying to hear things and make cover ups for missing things. Have had almost fifty years making one ear do all the work.

We lead interesting lives, we of the “aurally challenged”… far more interesting than those who can hear everything, I swear…

And now I am off…

Chat l8tr

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

If one knows how to play with explosives al that would happen to the house would be a rain of dirt.

I must have lead a quiet life. Explosives weren’t in my education.

It is generally boys who love to bang things.

LOL!

Happy Potter said:

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

I must have lead a quiet life. Explosives weren’t in my education.

It is generally boys who love to bang things.

LOL!

double bungers for more bang for your buck. ;)

Dinetta said:

Not changing the topic, just a stage whisper here…but I have been thanked for my offer to volunteer and have been asked to attend the local hysterical museum to assist with researching…gosh I hope I can hear ‘em…

:) :)

roughbarked said:

Dinetta said:

roughbarked said:

If one knows how to play with explosives al that would happen to the house would be a rain of dirt.

Another of your hitherto unsuspected talents?

well, I have done a bit of it .. yeah.

looking for opal?

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

Not changing the topic, just a stage whisper here…but I have been thanked for my offer to volunteer and have been asked to attend the local hysterical museum to assist with researching…gosh I hope I can hear ‘em…

:) :)

They’ve asked me to research “communications”… so I’ve checked they don’t want to go back to pre-history or even the dawn of history… “communications”, even for a time-line, is a very big field…

Just had another whinge to Aunty about the CC of a show…all erse over turkey…I ask nicely on the Message Board but after a week I send a specific request…

OMG.. lmao!
The oven bloke arrived, checked the stove over and the problem turns out to be that the inbuilt clock had stopped when the power was off to the cooker. It’s a timer so we can program the oven to start and stop at a preset time.
We never use that function and it didn’t even enter our minds to set it to the current time. So we just paid a call out fee for a tradesman to put the clock on the right time.

Egg on faces :}

Happy Potter said:

OMG.. lmao!
The oven bloke arrived, checked the stove over and the problem turns out to be that the inbuilt clock had stopped when the power was off to the cooker. It’s a timer so we can program the oven to start and stop at a preset time.
We never use that function and it didn’t even enter our minds to set it to the current time. So we just paid a call out fee for a tradesman to put the clock on the right time.

Egg on faces :}

I’ve always hated oven timer clocks. The switch to run the power through the clock contacts should be a separate thing so that the power only runs through the clock when you send it there. The other thing is the useless methods of resetting them. Silly switching devices that are easily tripped when cleaning the surfaces. I have lost count of the times I’ve had to fiddle with the clock to make the stove work.

Happy Potter said:

OMG.. lmao!
The oven bloke arrived, checked the stove over and the problem turns out to be that the inbuilt clock had stopped when the power was off to the cooker. It’s a timer so we can program the oven to start and stop at a preset time.
We never use that function and it didn’t even enter our minds to set it to the current time. So we just paid a call out fee for a tradesman to put the clock on the right time.

Egg on faces :}

put it this way. the man could still be fiddling around with it and still have no idea how to fix it!

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

OMG.. lmao!
The oven bloke arrived, checked the stove over and the problem turns out to be that the inbuilt clock had stopped when the power was off to the cooker. It’s a timer so we can program the oven to start and stop at a preset time.
We never use that function and it didn’t even enter our minds to set it to the current time. So we just paid a call out fee for a tradesman to put the clock on the right time.

Egg on faces :}

I’ve always hated oven timer clocks. The switch to run the power through the clock contacts should be a separate thing so that the power only runs through the clock when you send it there. The other thing is the useless methods of resetting them. Silly switching devices that are easily tripped when cleaning the surfaces. I have lost count of the times I’ve had to fiddle with the clock to make the stove work.

I have never owned one like that so when having to use one in a hired venue I am completely stumped.

Happy Potter said:

OMG.. lmao!
The oven bloke arrived, checked the stove over and the problem turns out to be that the inbuilt clock had stopped when the power was off to the cooker. It’s a timer so we can program the oven to start and stop at a preset time.
We never use that function and it didn’t even enter our minds to set it to the current time. So we just paid a call out fee for a tradesman to put the clock on the right time.

Egg on faces :}

Yes, but now you know, and just in time for the weekend!!

Hello Gardeners. I’m a bit tired. But if it is not raining in the morning, we are planning another assault on Mt Rouse with The Pug and The GirlBoxer.

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

OMG.. lmao!
The oven bloke arrived, checked the stove over and the problem turns out to be that the inbuilt clock had stopped when the power was off to the cooker. It’s a timer so we can program the oven to start and stop at a preset time.
We never use that function and it didn’t even enter our minds to set it to the current time. So we just paid a call out fee for a tradesman to put the clock on the right time.

Egg on faces :}

I’ve always hated oven timer clocks. The switch to run the power through the clock contacts should be a separate thing so that the power only runs through the clock when you send it there. The other thing is the useless methods of resetting them. Silly switching devices that are easily tripped when cleaning the surfaces. I have lost count of the times I’ve had to fiddle with the clock to make the stove work.

Oh I agree with that. We use the oven handle to hang the hand towel therefore buttonsaccidently get pushed often. Bluddy nuisance.

I managed to get some of the driveway weeding done today. Bugs me when I can see weeds getting seeds on and the rain won’t let me poison the stuff. I think I have managed to kill all the known plots of chick weed. Spoke to a friend by phone today and she took ages to answer because she was out in the paddock killing chick weed. Sounds as though it’s here to stay if it’s spread that far.

Good morning. Seven degrees here and just about light enough to go for a walk.

Good morning. Happy Saturday. It’s definately winter here now. Finger tips aren’t enjoying it. Permanent drip on the end o my nose. All true indications. Thank heavens that sun is here to warm the day up.

Not gardening today. I’m working on the next fairy garden. Off to look for suitable wood (branches/twigs) to make a fairy table and chairs. I have a picture of it in my mind but don’t know if it will work yet. I’ll let you know.

So, photos of the dogs on this morning’s walk.

Here we are at the barbecue area on Mt Rouse, having walked about 2km to the base of the mountain and then 10 minutes up The Steep Bit to the barbecue area:

And Babuschka enjoying the view across to Gariwerd (The Grampians)

And then we started walking down across the face of the mountain, with views of Penshurst below you and across the plains of Australia Felix to Gariwerd. Long, being an Orbital Pug, was finding it difficult to sit still and admire the view when requested, and Buschka was not impressed…..

But in the end he did sit, although he is a camera tart, so he sat looking at the camera rather than the view:

When we got back we went to the cafe for breakfast – unorthodox, but the Thai chicken pie and salad was lovely. And since then I’ve tidied up the asparagus bed and covered it with chickenpooey papershreds, some dynamic lifter, a sprinkle of lime and eggshells, a sprinkling of fresh grass clippings and a blanket of old peastraw. If they don’t like that lot, they are ungrateful!

Hello gardeners.
I’m still in the land of the living, just not had much to tell of late.

I hope everyone is well. :)

bubba louie said:

Hello gardeners.
I’m still in the land of the living, just not had much to tell of late.

I hope everyone is well. :)

I know you well but I still have a problem with your names on scribbly etc.

Glad you are still with us.. ;)

roughbarked said:

bubba louie said:

Hello gardeners.
I’m still in the land of the living, just not had much to tell of late.

I hope everyone is well. :)

I know you well but I still have a problem with your names on scribbly etc.

Glad you are still with us.. ;)

Is Scribbly still going?

No, Scribbly is gone, but some of the refugees are here:

http://cobberwebs.com/scienceForums/viewforum.php?f=4&sid=527fc617cb430587c8a5610642f63b91

Morning. I’m emerging from a mega cook- a- thon. The freezers filled and a packed esky sent off to GS with frozen foods. The kitchens cleaned and the last dishwasher load went in.
I’ve a bag of pomegranates to get through, picked up at yesty’s swap :)

The sun is out and there’s much work to do outside.

buffy said:

So, photos of the dogs on this morning’s walk.

Here we are at the barbecue area on Mt Rouse, having walked about 2km to the base of the mountain and then 10 minutes up The Steep Bit to the barbecue area:

And Babuschka enjoying the view across to Gariwerd (The Grampians)

And then we started walking down across the face of the mountain, with views of Penshurst below you and across the plains of Australia Felix to Gariwerd. Long, being an Orbital Pug, was finding it difficult to sit still and admire the view when requested, and Buschka was not impressed…..

But in the end he did sit, although he is a camera tart, so he sat looking at the camera rather than the view:

When we got back we went to the cafe for breakfast – unorthodox, but the Thai chicken pie and salad was lovely. And since then I’ve tidied up the asparagus bed and covered it with chickenpooey papershreds, some dynamic lifter, a sprinkle of lime and eggshells, a sprinkling of fresh grass clippings and a blanket of old peastraw. If they don’t like that lot, they are ungrateful!

Sounds like a good day.

bubba louie said:

Hello gardeners.
I’m still in the land of the living, just not had much to tell of late.

I hope everyone is well. :)

Glad you chipped in Bubba. None of us except Happy Potter have much happening but we still manage to type a bit of drivel. You drivel would be welcome too you know.

Morning Mrs HP. Hope you’re having a good day.

pomolo said:

Morning Mrs HP. Hope you’re having a good day.

Yes I am thankyou :) Mr. is finishing off the last of the kitchen clean up, unloading the clean dishwasher and making me a latte. Oh yeah! :D

Our B&B was in operation again last night but this lot came in their own RV so I didn’t have to make up beds. I made up a new dish with chicken poached in coconut milk etc and it was a hit. Easy enough to do so I’ll probably do it again in the future. Also dod a hot pudding in the micro. Love that m/w for stuff like that. It’s so quick. Mightn’t look perfect but it sure tastes good.

Happy Potter said:

pomolo said:

Morning Mrs HP. Hope you’re having a good day.

Yes I am thankyou :) Mr. is finishing off the last of the kitchen clean up, unloading the clean dishwasher and making me a latte. Oh yeah! :D

Coffee!!! You said the right word. I missed out on mine this morning because of the visitors. Need it now. Thanks for the reminder.

pomolo said:

Our B&B was in operation again last night but this lot came in their own RV so I didn’t have to make up beds. I made up a new dish with chicken poached in coconut milk etc and it was a hit. Easy enough to do so I’ll probably do it again in the future. Also dod a hot pudding in the micro. Love that m/w for stuff like that. It’s so quick. Mightn’t look perfect but it sure tastes good.

The chicken sounds nice.

I had sleepover bodies too and they ate well. One of the desserts was extra loved, a simple orange baked rice made with cream and orange zest, very rich though. I lightly poached some small imperial whole peeled mandarins in syrup and sat next to the rice. It was lovely.

Arhh the small of baked lime cheesecake wafting from the oven.

My mad chook mate Ernie has gone to buy some pekin ducks for the pot. Two are for me. I’ve never cooked duck, but going to try this fellows recipe.. what do you think?
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/hugh-fearnley-whittingstall/domestic-roast-duck-recipe

Happy Potter said:

Arhh the small of baked lime cheesecake wafting from the oven.

My mad chook mate Ernie has gone to buy some pekin ducks for the pot. Two are for me. I’ve never cooked duck, but going to try this fellows recipe.. what do you think?
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/hugh-fearnley-whittingstall/domestic-roast-duck-recipe

Sounds pretty similar to what I have done. I use a rack to hold the duck above the drippings. Don’t forget to save the dripping fat for roast potatoes another time. It keeps well in the fridge. Carving a duck is harder than a chicken. The meat is firmer and the joints don’t let go easily. Use the carcass for stock. I have decided that duck stock is my favourite. It makes awesome soup.

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Arhh the small of baked lime cheesecake wafting from the oven.

My mad chook mate Ernie has gone to buy some pekin ducks for the pot. Two are for me. I’ve never cooked duck, but going to try this fellows recipe.. what do you think?
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/hugh-fearnley-whittingstall/domestic-roast-duck-recipe

Sounds pretty similar to what I have done. I use a rack to hold the duck above the drippings. Don’t forget to save the dripping fat for roast potatoes another time. It keeps well in the fridge. Carving a duck is harder than a chicken. The meat is firmer and the joints don’t let go easily. Use the carcass for stock. I have decided that duck stock is my favourite. It makes awesome soup.

I bet it does! I will do that, and yes keeping the fat for roast spuds.

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Arhh the small of baked lime cheesecake wafting from the oven.

My mad chook mate Ernie has gone to buy some pekin ducks for the pot. Two are for me. I’ve never cooked duck, but going to try this fellows recipe.. what do you think?
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/hugh-fearnley-whittingstall/domestic-roast-duck-recipe

Sounds pretty similar to what I have done. I use a rack to hold the duck above the drippings. Don’t forget to save the dripping fat for roast potatoes another time. It keeps well in the fridge. Carving a duck is harder than a chicken. The meat is firmer and the joints don’t let go easily. Use the carcass for stock. I have decided that duck stock is my favourite. It makes awesome soup.

Duck fat potatoes = too much cholesterol. :(

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Arhh the small of baked lime cheesecake wafting from the oven.

My mad chook mate Ernie has gone to buy some pekin ducks for the pot. Two are for me. I’ve never cooked duck, but going to try this fellows recipe.. what do you think?
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/hugh-fearnley-whittingstall/domestic-roast-duck-recipe

Sounds pretty similar to what I have done. I use a rack to hold the duck above the drippings. Don’t forget to save the dripping fat for roast potatoes another time. It keeps well in the fridge. Carving a duck is harder than a chicken. The meat is firmer and the joints don’t let go easily. Use the carcass for stock. I have decided that duck stock is my favourite. It makes awesome soup.

Duck fat potatoes = too much cholesterol. :(

bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

Arhh the small of baked lime cheesecake wafting from the oven.

My mad chook mate Ernie has gone to buy some pekin ducks for the pot. Two are for me. I’ve never cooked duck, but going to try this fellows recipe.. what do you think?
http://www.channel4.com/4food/recipes/chefs/hugh-fearnley-whittingstall/domestic-roast-duck-recipe

Sounds pretty similar to what I have done. I use a rack to hold the duck above the drippings. Don’t forget to save the dripping fat for roast potatoes another time. It keeps well in the fridge. Carving a duck is harder than a chicken. The meat is firmer and the joints don’t let go easily. Use the carcass for stock. I have decided that duck stock is my favourite. It makes awesome soup.

Duck fat potatoes = too much cholesterol. :(

Silly I know but I just can’t come at duck after having some as pets.

bubba louie said:

Silly I know but I just can’t come at duck after having some as pets.

I find duck too rich…

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

bluegreen said:

Sounds pretty similar to what I have done. I use a rack to hold the duck above the drippings. Don’t forget to save the dripping fat for roast potatoes another time. It keeps well in the fridge. Carving a duck is harder than a chicken. The meat is firmer and the joints don’t let go easily. Use the carcass for stock. I have decided that duck stock is my favourite. It makes awesome soup.

Duck fat potatoes = too much cholesterol. :(

Silly I know but I just can’t come at duck after having some as pets.

not so silly, many people feel like that.

bluegreen said:

bubba louie said:

bubba louie said:

Duck fat potatoes = too much cholesterol. :(

Silly I know but I just can’t come at duck after having some as pets.

not so silly, many people feel like that.

I have eaten it when I was a kid, and if someone served it to me I’d eat it, but it’s not something I’d ever buy for myself.

I buy duck marylands from the Victoria Market. I cook them in a closed casserole in the oven with a sprinkling of French onion soup mix, finely grated orange rind and the juice of the same oranges. Yum. It’s what we et tonight, actually. And you can eat duck fat roasted potatoes on rare occasions and enjoy the flavour. It’s just not something you should eat all the time!

:)

buffy said:

I buy duck marylands from the Victoria Market. I cook them in a closed casserole in the oven with a sprinkling of French onion soup mix, finely grated orange rind and the juice of the same oranges. Yum. It’s what we et tonight, actually. And you can eat duck fat roasted potatoes on rare occasions and enjoy the flavour. It’s just not something you should eat all the time!

:)

That sounds nice too, simple but flavoursome.
I can look forward to duck occasionally as it’s cheap with my bartering with the lovely lady breeding the ducks. She has 45 to cull and I could have had five or six but declined as I don’t know if I’ll like it.
But yes, the duck fat baked potatoes would be a much less often treat. I’m lucky I guess to have a low cholesterol level at 4, always been that and good lipids outweigh the bad, despite having a diet high in animal fat.

My poor chook mate ernie has plucked and dressed four ducks, two for his family, and vows to get a plucking machine next. I guess I’ll find out when I go there when the next lot will be my job. I’m hoping to save the down too. I have to do the kill too. Eek. I forget I’m a city slicker lol.

I don’t know, nor care, what the temperature numbers are, it’s just cold. I only take note if there’s going to be a frost. Good to drag out the winter coats and scarves to wear again though. It reminds me of why I used to like winter :)

I’m running about this morning here and there, a few errands to do and catching up with a friend on my way to a medical appt for a ct scan. Nothing dramatic, routine test.

I woke to find the man had raided the baked lime cheesecake I made last night and sat in the fridge to chill. He couldn’t wait could he? I told him he could have some once it’s fully chilled. He’s coming off nightshift and couldn’t sleep, so obviously it was too much of a temptation, and I’d gone to bed, lol.

Happy Potter said:

But yes, the duck fat baked potatoes would be a much less often treat. I’m lucky I guess to have a low cholesterol level at 4, always been that and good lipids outweigh the bad, despite having a diet high in animal fat.

I get a sense that the concept of animal fats being bad for you is changing. That they are healthier than we have been led to believe and that the benefits may outweigh the negatives. Duck fat is 50% monounsaturated fat which is the desirable type for lowering cholesterol.

Why You Need to Eat More Lard

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

But yes, the duck fat baked potatoes would be a much less often treat. I’m lucky I guess to have a low cholesterol level at 4, always been that and good lipids outweigh the bad, despite having a diet high in animal fat.

I get a sense that the concept of animal fats being bad for you is changing. That they are healthier than we have been led to believe and that the benefits may outweigh the negatives. Duck fat is 50% monounsaturated fat which is the desirable type for lowering cholesterol.

Why You Need to Eat More Lard

I’ve got along fine without lard for 40 years.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

Happy Potter said:

But yes, the duck fat baked potatoes would be a much less often treat. I’m lucky I guess to have a low cholesterol level at 4, always been that and good lipids outweigh the bad, despite having a diet high in animal fat.

I get a sense that the concept of animal fats being bad for you is changing. That they are healthier than we have been led to believe and that the benefits may outweigh the negatives. Duck fat is 50% monounsaturated fat which is the desirable type for lowering cholesterol.

Why You Need to Eat More Lard

I’ve got along fine without lard for 40 years.

if duck lard is good for you why do they call it mallard?

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

I get a sense that the concept of animal fats being bad for you is changing. That they are healthier than we have been led to believe and that the benefits may outweigh the negatives. Duck fat is 50% monounsaturated fat which is the desirable type for lowering cholesterol.

Why You Need to Eat More Lard

I’ve got along fine without lard for 40 years.

if duck lard is good for you why do they call it mallard?

I don’t understand the question. A mallard is a type of duck.

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve got along fine without lard for 40 years.

if duck lard is good for you why do they call it mallard?

I don’t understand the question. A mallard is a type of duck.

mal = bad.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

if duck lard is good for you why do they call it mallard?

I don’t understand the question. A mallard is a type of duck.

mal = bad.

oh. lol!

Got another job interview this afternoon. Just this side of Benalla, casual position. Not sure how many hours but I am hoping that it is regular hours as the last casual job I went for didn’t offer enough regular hours for Centrelink. It is a family run specialised wool company Jemala

knock on the door this morning.. Do you want to come to work tomorrow?

me to myself. what in this freezing stuff you want me to go out and ruin my back and my hands for the rest of winter for a handful of peanuts and truckload of abuse?

and then.. but you need the peanuts..

roughbarked said:

and then.. but you need the peanuts..

and there’s the rub.

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

and then.. but you need the peanuts..

and there’s the rub.

I really should be getting paid to show how to repair environment rather than earn peanuts helping someone stuff it up.

roughbarked said:

if duck lard is good for you why do they call it mallard?

heh heh!!

bluegreen said:

Got another job interview this afternoon. Just this side of Benalla, casual position. Not sure how many hours but I am hoping that it is regular hours as the last casual job I went for didn’t offer enough regular hours for Centrelink. It is a family run specialised wool company Jemala

CentreLink would go broke if it was a business…colossally dumb procedures sometimes…

This Jemala sounds delicious…

roughbarked said:

knock on the door this morning.. Do you want to come to work tomorrow?

me to myself. what in this freezing stuff you want me to go out and ruin my back and my hands for the rest of winter for a handful of peanuts and truckload of abuse?

and then.. but you need the peanuts..

Yep, peanuts count…

Getting in to do this quickly. We’re having monitor problems so might be out for a while. Don’t miss me too much.

pomolo said:

Getting in to do this quickly. We’re having monitor problems so might be out for a while. Don’t miss me too much.

We shall try.

Anybody up?

Dinetta said:

Anybody up?

am now. What were you doing up at that time of the morning?

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

Anybody up?

am now. What were you doing up at that time of the morning?

Hopefully, counting chicks :)

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

Anybody up?

am now. What were you doing up at that time of the morning?

Hopefully, counting chicks :)

Naw, no chicks yet… :( :(

I’ve been going to bed at about 21:30 and waking up about 01:30, but last night / this morning I made it to 03:15…

So I got up and watched some Dalziel & Pascoe on iView whilst Nerfetiti kept my lap warm…

Did you know that Dalziel is pronounced “Day – ell”???

Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

am now. What were you doing up at that time of the morning?

Hopefully, counting chicks :)

Naw, no chicks yet… :( :(

I’ve been going to bed at about 21:30 and waking up about 01:30, but last night / this morning I made it to 03:15…

So I got up and watched some Dalziel & Pascoe on iView whilst Nerfetiti kept my lap warm…

Did you know that Dalziel is pronounced “Day – ell”???

Yes I’m a watcher..

Was also passing after your early morning visit but thought it not a good time of day to start a conversation. Besides, you’d probably gone back to bed when I saw it.

Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

am now. What were you doing up at that time of the morning?

Hopefully, counting chicks :)

Naw, no chicks yet… :( :(

I’ve been going to bed at about 21:30 and waking up about 01:30, but last night / this morning I made it to 03:15…

So I got up and watched some Dalziel & Pascoe on iView whilst Nerfetiti kept my lap warm…

Did you know that Dalziel is pronounced “Day – ell”???

I thought it was more like Dee-ell.

deal or no deal

bubba louie said:

I thought it was more like Dee-ell.

I’m only quoting how it came up on the Closed Captions…

It’s “Dey-ell”…not sure how that sounds…

Dinetta said:

It’s “Dey-ell”…not sure how that sounds…

Day O, day O Daylight come and me wan’ go home…

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

It’s “Dey-ell”…not sure how that sounds…

Day O, day O Daylight come and me wan’ go home…

Would be something like the Scots say “dee”, we say “dai” (apparently)…

Anyway, it’s not Dal-zeel…

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

It’s “Dey-ell”…not sure how that sounds…

Day O, day O Daylight come and me wan’ go home…

LOL @ BlueGreen!!

Hello Gardeners. I’ve been busy at work.

>>Anyway, it’s not Dal-zeel…<<

In Australia is sometimes is.

buffy said:

Hello Gardeners. I’ve been busy at work.

>>Anyway, it’s not Dal-zeel…<<

In Australia is sometimes is.

Oh yes, I had a teacher with that surname and that’s what we called her, Mrs “Dalzeel”… I’m just saying that in the Dalziel & Pascoe television series, the name is not pronounced like that…

I’ll be riding my bike…errr…taking the spidees for a spin…tomorrow, to get to the Hysterical Museum for a talk…apparently I’m to show some folk how to surf the net….ummm….research on the internet…they are happy with my “communications timeline”, I’ve said I’ll also check out CB/UHF history plus satellite communications…both very relevant to life without normal “mobile” coverage…

Dinetta said:

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

It’s “Dey-ell”…not sure how that sounds…

Day O, day O Daylight come and me wan’ go home…

Would be something like the Scots say “dee”, we say “dai” (apparently)…

Anyway, it’s not Dal-zeel…

I used to work with a girl with the same surname and she called it Dal-zeel. Go figga.

Dinetta said:

bubba louie said:

I thought it was more like Dee-ell.

I’m only quoting how it came up on the Closed Captions…

They say dee-ell on the show.

Dinetta said:

buffy said:

Hello Gardeners. I’ve been busy at work.

>>Anyway, it’s not Dal-zeel…<<

In Australia is sometimes is.

Oh yes, I had a teacher with that surname and that’s what we called her, Mrs “Dalzeel”… I’m just saying that in the Dalziel & Pascoe television series, the name is not pronounced like that…

And the show is right. That is the correct pronunciation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalziel

bubba louie said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalziel

bubba louie said:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dalziel

I’ve missed you…

Good morning Gardeners. Seems chilly here, but I haven’t looked at the thermometer yet. Mr buffy had a callout at midnight and has slept in the beanbag in front of the woodheater (with the Pug) since he got back around 1.15am.

buffy said:

Mr buffy had a callout at midnight and has slept in the beanbag in front of the woodheater (with the Pug) since he got back around 1.15am.

That sleep in the bean bag does not sound comfortable? I’m sure my back would be stuck and a mini-crane would have to be employed to lift me upright…however I’m sure Long was happy to share…

Morning. We’ve a week of frosty nights coming up, according to the forecast. If that happens, it will have been years since it did. I hardly saw any ice about last winter and it’s been years since I had iced up hoses and car windscreen.
I’m rugged up to go out and feed the chooks. Long ugg boots jacket and scarf. I’m a wuss lol.

More medical stuff happening with me. I’m grateful for good doctors and surgeons, truly am, but I’m also over seeing so many of them. And it’s always something that is new again and vastly different from the last ailment. Todays appt is to do with the CT scan I had on Mon. I got a call to come in and see my gp about it. It was to check for possible kidney stones, but I’m certain I don’t have them. The occasional pain twinge is different to what I was told it might be. I left the scan images in the car but went and brought them in and held up to have a look. Not that I can see what’s what, but blind Freddy could see what’s wrong in this one. That rotten unassuming fluid filled cyst on my kidney, which was slightly bigger than it a year ago, is now the size of a large grapefruit.
Groan.

Happy Potter said:

Morning. We’ve a week of frosty nights coming up, according to the forecast. If that happens, it will have been years since it did. I hardly saw any ice about last winter and it’s been years since I had iced up hoses and car windscreen.
I’m rugged up to go out and feed the chooks. Long ugg boots jacket and scarf. I’m a wuss lol.

More medical stuff happening with me. I’m grateful for good doctors and surgeons, truly am, but I’m also over seeing so many of them. And it’s always something that is new again and vastly different from the last ailment. Todays appt is to do with the CT scan I had on Mon. I got a call to come in and see my gp about it. It was to check for possible kidney stones, but I’m certain I don’t have them. The occasional pain twinge is different to what I was told it might be. I left the scan images in the car but went and brought them in and held up to have a look. Not that I can see what’s what, but blind Freddy could see what’s wrong in this one. That rotten unassuming fluid filled cyst on my kidney, which was slightly bigger than it a year ago, is now the size of a large grapefruit.
Groan.

How did I miss this??

Wow, you don’t do things by halves, do you? Hopefully the procedure to deflate this cyst is reasonably un-intrusive?

Wow, you don’t do things by halves, do you? Hopefully the procedure to deflate this cyst is reasonably un-intrusive?
———————————————
Me too.
Hubby mused that I must have swallowed a water balloon, but grandsons offer of a cause was scarier. He said it’s an alien and it’s gunna burst, ‘should we euthanize you nanna?’. Yer.

Off to quilting, after a coffee. I cleaned out all the chickens waterers and got cold through. I’m finally warm after a hot shower :)

Happy Potter said:

Wow, you don’t do things by halves, do you? Hopefully the procedure to deflate this cyst is reasonably un-intrusive?
———————————————
Me too.
Hubby mused that I must have swallowed a water balloon, but grandsons offer of a cause was scarier. He said it’s an alien and it’s gunna burst, ‘should we euthanize you nanna?’. Yer.

Hahahah! He probably wishes it was him invaded by an alien, how “cool”!!

Somebody died here (in this town) last night. He went to sleep on the patio, his friends threw a blanket over him, and he had passed away by morning.

How anybody could sleep on a patio in this weather, with one blanket, amazes me…but better than the local park, I suppose…

I saw my doc and that cyst has to be drained with a needle. But that’s the lesser of the two probs. The other is a lesion on my liver. Need a follow up in 3 months then if it’s still there then needs a biopsy.
So, I will live to terrorise youse for longer yet :)

Happy Potter said:

I saw my doc and that cyst has to be drained with a needle. But that’s the lesser of the two probs. The other is a lesion on my liver. Need a follow up in 3 months then if it’s still there then needs a biopsy.
So, I will live to terrorise youse for longer yet :)

good to hear, the terrorising, not the lesion and biopsy. Hopefully it will be gone next check up.

Happy Potter said:

I saw my doc and that cyst has to be drained with a needle. But that’s the lesser of the two probs. The other is a lesion on my liver. Need a follow up in 3 months then if it’s still there then needs a biopsy.
So, I will live to terrorise youse for longer yet :)

I can live with that (the terror)… bummer about the lesion…

I’m back. With a new monitor. Ready to roll. It’s freezing cold here now. 2c this morning and I bet tomorrow won’t be much better.

Sorry to read of your new medical problems HP. I know I’ve got a scar on my lungs that gave us all a scare but it would seem it’s from a childhood bout of pneumonia. Hopefully yours is just a childhood leftover too.

Had to take a plate to a gathering today. I tried one of those layered cob loaves. It was kinda nice too but I now know why people buy their grilled capsicum in a jar. I did my own and it’s a fiddly job. Going to try another one again soon because I think I can make it more tasty than the recipe I followed this time.

See you on the morrow but not too early.

Happy Potter said:

I saw my doc and that cyst has to be drained with a needle. But that’s the lesser of the two probs. The other is a lesion on my liver. Need a follow up in 3 months then if it’s still there then needs a biopsy.
So, I will live to terrorise youse for longer yet :)

I had a lesion on my liver too. After an MRI it was decided it was am hemangioma and nothing serious.

Good morning Gardeners. Two degrees and falling here at the moment. I’ll be off to work shortly, driving slowly again for the frost.

buffy said:

Good morning Gardeners. Two degrees and falling here at the moment. I’ll be off to work shortly, driving slowly again for the frost.

oooo, travel safe…

Dinetta said:

buffy said:

Good morning Gardeners. Two degrees and falling here at the moment. I’ll be off to work shortly, driving slowly again for the frost.

oooo, travel safe…

a frost here too. The site says it is -0.1 (min -2) but the sun is out and it will be a lovely day. Minus minimums for the next week.

Frost here too, but more foggy than icy. 2C.

I’m a slave to kids. Daughter #3 party girl now gym junkie, texted me to ask if I could have a pot of porridge ready when she gets back from the gym. Yes Ma’am.

Last night hubby decided anyone can cook if they follow a recipe, no matter how complicated the dish, so he grabbed the first cookbook and vowed to make whatever recipe he opened the page at. Ok he opened it at madras beef curry, looked at the 50 ingredients list and set about shopping for the ingredients and cook it. I encouraged him to have a go and left him to it.

Well somehow we ended up with steaks with a weird curry sauce, and it was bloomin awful! He didn’t mind it, JJ said it was ok-ish, but the daughter screwed up her face, yuk. I had raisin toast.

Four dishwasher loads later and I’m still cleaning up. Never again.

Happy Potter said:

Four dishwasher loads later and I’m still cleaning up. Never again.

don’t discourage him! just pick the recipe for him next time, and make it an achievable one.

Happy Potter said:

Last night hubby decided anyone can cook if they follow a recipe, no matter how complicated the dish, … …
Four dishwasher loads later and I’m still cleaning up. Never again.

Oh I’d let him have another go, even if it’s spag bol with a bought sauce…at least he’ll learn to chop and saute onions, remove, then brown the mince. Plus how to cook spaghetti without it getting too soft or boiling over…

What was that you said?

You mean I’m 11 months? Oh goody.. birthday coming up.

roughbarked said:

What was that you said?

You mean I’m 11 months? Oh goody.. birthday coming up.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

What was that you said?

You mean I’m 11 months? Oh goody.. birthday coming up.

doesn’t time fly. How long did the hood stay on? My grandson doesn’t like stuff on his head so hoods and hats get pulled off pretty quick and you have to be fast with the camera.

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

What was that you said?

You mean I’m 11 months? Oh goody.. birthday coming up.

doesn’t time fly. How long did the hood stay on? My grandson doesn’t like stuff on his head so hoods and hats get pulled off pretty quick and you have to be fast with the camera.

She loves furry stuff.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

What was that you said?

You mean I’m 11 months? Oh goody.. birthday coming up.

Oh goody…trip to visit grand-daughter coming up…

June solistice tomorrow:

“In the Gregorian calendar the June solstice dates vary. For example, it was on June 20 in 2012 and falls on June 21 at 5:04 AM UTC in 2013. A June 22 solstice will not occur until June 22, 2203. The last time there was a June 22 solstice, was in 1971.”

Now that’s an inneresting fack, innit?

From here:“http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/june-solstice.html”

Found out yesterday how to properly quote internet citations…very different from books…

Because it’s the shortest day of the year I thought I’d better get in early incase I miss another day.

pomolo said:

Because it’s the shortest day of the year I thought I’d better get in early incase I miss another day.

‘snot early. ;) I’ve done half a days work already .. ;)

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

buffy said:

Good morning Gardeners. Two degrees and falling here at the moment. I’ll be off to work shortly, driving slowly again for the frost.

oooo, travel safe…

a frost here too. The site says it is -0.1 (min -2) but the sun is out and it will be a lovely day. Minus minimums for the next week.

If you’re getting minus minimums there it means we’ll be getting our share if low lows very soon too. I’m moving .

Happy Potter said:

Frost here too, but more foggy than icy. 2C.

I’m a slave to kids. Daughter #3 party girl now gym junkie, texted me to ask if I could have a pot of porridge ready when she gets back from the gym. Yes Ma’am.

Last night hubby decided anyone can cook if they follow a recipe, no matter how complicated the dish, so he grabbed the first cookbook and vowed to make whatever recipe he opened the page at. Ok he opened it at madras beef curry, looked at the 50 ingredients list and set about shopping for the ingredients and cook it. I encouraged him to have a go and left him to it.

Well somehow we ended up with steaks with a weird curry sauce, and it was bloomin awful! He didn’t mind it, JJ said it was ok-ish, but the daughter screwed up her face, yuk. I had raisin toast.

Four dishwasher loads later and I’m still cleaning up. Never again.

What a larf. On the other hand, I let D cook whatever he wants and I luv it what ever it tastes like. I sometimes have to do a lot of explaining what certain ingredients are but it’s worth it for any night off.

Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

Last night hubby decided anyone can cook if they follow a recipe, no matter how complicated the dish, … …
Four dishwasher loads later and I’m still cleaning up. Never again.

Oh I’d let him have another go, even if it’s spag bol with a bought sauce…at least he’ll learn to chop and saute onions, remove, then brown the mince. Plus how to cook spaghetti without it getting too soft or boiling over…

BG and Dinetta think like me. Anything is better than having to do it yourself all the time.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

What was that you said?

You mean I’m 11 months? Oh goody.. birthday coming up.

That’s gorgeous.

roughbarked said:

bluegreen said:

roughbarked said:

doesn’t time fly. How long did the hood stay on? My grandson doesn’t like stuff on his head so hoods and hats get pulled off pretty quick and you have to be fast with the camera.

She loves furry stuff.

so do I. I’m a sucker for any sort of soft furry toy. I eep buying them for my grandaughter because I love them.

Dinetta said:

June solistice tomorrow:

“In the Gregorian calendar the June solstice dates vary. For example, it was on June 20 in 2012 and falls on June 21 at 5:04 AM UTC in 2013. A June 22 solstice will not occur until June 22, 2203. The last time there was a June 22 solstice, was in 1971.”

Now that’s an inneresting fack, innit?

From here:“http://www.timeanddate.com/calendar/june-solstice.html”

Found out yesterday how to properly quote internet citations…very different from books…

That’s probably the reason I can never remeber what the exact date is for it.

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

Because it’s the shortest day of the year I thought I’d better get in early incase I miss another day.

‘snot early. ;) I’ve done half a days work already .. ;)

Hello RB. I’m retired you know. I have no need to rush anymore. And loving it.

Sorry I missed your post.

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

Because it’s the shortest day of the year I thought I’d better get in early incase I miss another day.

‘snot early. ;) I’ve done half a days work already .. ;)

Hello RB. I’m retired you know. I have no need to rush anymore. And loving it.

Sorry I missed your post.

I’ve been retired for years but I still have to work to pay bills. :) you didn’t miss my post.. ;)

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

‘snot early. ;) I’ve done half a days work already .. ;)

Hello RB. I’m retired you know. I have no need to rush anymore. And loving it.

Sorry I missed your post.

I’ve been retired for years but I still have to work to pay bills. :) you didn’t miss my post.. ;)

That could be stars in the sky.

I’ve been playing ladies, two days in a row. Four of us had a get together yesterday. We had morning tea and lunch together and managed to talk for 5 hours without conversation ever drying up. Had a lovely day all round.

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

Hello RB. I’m retired you know. I have no need to rush anymore. And loving it.

Sorry I missed your post.

I’ve been retired for years but I still have to work to pay bills. :) you didn’t miss my post.. ;)

That could be stars in the sky.

It is actually a square inch that’s an inch above the ground.

pomolo said:

I’ve been playing ladies, two days in a row. Four of us had a get together yesterday. We had morning tea and lunch together and managed to talk for 5 hours without conversation ever drying up. Had a lovely day all round.

:) I’m off now to tear protesting fruit trees from the frosty ground.. catch you later.

ZeeZee has gone to the vets to have some teeth extracted. Because she has an overbite a couple of her front teeth have rotted from lack of use. After her little operation we have to start cleaning her teeth. I wouldn’t do it for an adult but I’ll do it for my dog. lol.

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

roughbarked said:

I’ve been retired for years but I still have to work to pay bills. :) you didn’t miss my post.. ;)

That could be stars in the sky.

It is actually a square inch that’s an inch above the ground.

I don’t doubt that.

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

I’ve been playing ladies, two days in a row. Four of us had a get together yesterday. We had morning tea and lunch together and managed to talk for 5 hours without conversation ever drying up. Had a lovely day all round.

:) I’m off now to tear protesting fruit trees from the frosty ground.. catch you later.

Try to enjoy it.

roughbarked said:

pomolo said:

Because it’s the shortest day of the year I thought I’d better get in early incase I miss another day.

‘snot early. ;) I’ve done half a days work already .. ;)

Hehe I was up at 6 am. I’m still cleaning the kitchen! LOL

Frozen fingers feeding the chooks, brr.

pomolo said:

Dinetta said:

Happy Potter said:

Last night hubby decided anyone can cook if they follow a recipe, no matter how complicated the dish, … …
Four dishwasher loads later and I’m still cleaning up. Never again.

Oh I’d let him have another go, even if it’s spag bol with a bought sauce…at least he’ll learn to chop and saute onions, remove, then brown the mince. Plus how to cook spaghetti without it getting too soft or boiling over…

BG and Dinetta think like me. Anything is better than having to do it yourself all the time.

His biggest fault is he leaves the kitchen while things are cooking. He boils things dry. He was supposed to be reducing the pan liquids but I smelt something and had to check ..yep pan unattended. I have tried and tried to show him how to do cookery things, never leave the kitchen with the stovetop on, you can’t re read a recipe enough, ect., taught him the basics, but he just can’t seem to get it.

Oh, one good thing leaving the man to cook came out of it. When shopping for the ingredients he bought a small packet of fresh rosemary leaves. He didn’t know I have a pot of the stuff growing.
Well I opened the packet and smelt it..it smelled like nothing at all. If there was any smell it was of dirty water. I got him to smell it then smell the sprigs of it that I grew. He was blown away by the difference.
Next time I will do the prep work for him then he can cook the meat. It’ll be an oven dish only, then he can leave it but have the timer in his pocket, lol.

Happy Potter said:

Oh, one good thing leaving the man to cook came out of it. When shopping for the ingredients he bought a small packet of fresh rosemary leaves. He didn’t know I have a pot of the stuff growing.
Well I opened the packet and smelt it..it smelled like nothing at all. If there was any smell it was of dirty water. I got him to smell it then smell the sprigs of it that I grew. He was blown away by the difference.
Next time I will do the prep work for him then he can cook the meat. It’ll be an oven dish only, then he can leave it but have the timer in his pocket, lol.

Yet scientists swear to me that store bought food is no less fresh or nutritious and that people growing their own is environmentally unsustainable.. Any wonder why I act as if I’m retarded whenever a scientists walks into the room?

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

Oh, one good thing leaving the man to cook came out of it. When shopping for the ingredients he bought a small packet of fresh rosemary leaves. He didn’t know I have a pot of the stuff growing.
Well I opened the packet and smelt it..it smelled like nothing at all. If there was any smell it was of dirty water. I got him to smell it then smell the sprigs of it that I grew. He was blown away by the difference.
Next time I will do the prep work for him then he can cook the meat. It’ll be an oven dish only, then he can leave it but have the timer in his pocket, lol.

Yet scientists swear to me that store bought food is no less fresh or nutritious and that people growing their own is environmentally unsustainable.. Any wonder why I act as if I’m retarded whenever a scientists walks into the room?

I completely understand. I even rubbed some leaf and still couldn’t get a scent. Daughter who loves my ratatouille made some at her bf place but using bought tomatoes. She said it was crap and ended up throwing it out. She makes it here now using my frozen whole toms, dried herbs and eggplant.

I have thrown the remaining mandarins into the freezer, skins and all…rather than waste them…

Dinetta said:

I have thrown the remaining mandarins into the freezer, skins and all…rather than waste them…

eat them frozen in summer. Used to do that with oranges.

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

What was that you said?

You mean I’m 11 months? Oh goody.. birthday coming up.

What a cutie.

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

I have thrown the remaining mandarins into the freezer, skins and all…rather than waste them…

eat them frozen in summer. Used to do that with oranges.

I’ll by you one more frozen orange juice..

Chooks skipping about in frost warm -human frozen. Ok I need a feather coat.

Happy Potter said:

Chooks skipping about in frost warm -human frozen. Ok I need a feather coat.

Feather onsie? Necessary winter attire for mad chook lady. just snorted my cuppa out at the image.

Our poor little baby ZeeZee has had her op and they took out 11 teeth. What! Yes 11. We understood that there were a few front teeth that needed attention but 11! The vet said that she still has 27 teeth left and she won’t even notice the loss after she’s healed but it makes my mouth sore just thinking about it. She’s feeling pretty sorry for herself this morning. She can’t have her bone and that’s upsetting her I think.

Apparently there is a liquid of some sort that you can add to their water daily as a tooth cleaner. At least we won’t have to manually brush them with tooth paste.

Cooking mode today. I’m going to do some grandchild sitting for the next week of the school holidays so I want to go armed with food to keep everybody quiet. lol. I’ll be coming home for the second week of the holidays so I can have a big rest to recover.

pomolo said:

Our poor little baby ZeeZee has had her op and they took out 11 teeth. What! Yes 11. We understood that there were a few front teeth that needed attention but 11! The vet said that she still has 27 teeth left and she won’t even notice the loss after she’s healed but it makes my mouth sore just thinking about it. She’s feeling pretty sorry for herself this morning. She can’t have her bone and that’s upsetting her I think.

Apparently there is a liquid of some sort that you can add to their water daily as a tooth cleaner. At least we won’t have to manually brush them with tooth paste.

Cooking mode today. I’m going to do some grandchild sitting for the next week of the school holidays so I want to go armed with food to keep everybody quiet. lol. I’ll be coming home for the second week of the holidays so I can have a big rest to recover.

Owww, poor Zee zee!

Have fun feeding the grandies :)

I’m off to a cookoff! We don’t get to learn what we are cooking until handed the name and ingredients..so no looking up best recipes beforehand lol!

Just a bit of fun get together at a friends :D

pomolo said:

Our poor little baby ZeeZee has had her op and they took out 11 teeth. What! Yes 11. We understood that there were a few front teeth that needed attention but 11! The vet said that she still has 27 teeth left and she won’t even notice the loss after she’s healed but it makes my mouth sore just thinking about it. She’s feeling pretty sorry for herself this morning. She can’t have her bone and that’s upsetting her I think.

poor thing. She will be better than ever once the gums heal.

Happy Potter said:

I’m off to a cookoff! We don’t get to learn what we are cooking until handed the name and ingredients..so no looking up best recipes beforehand lol!

Just a bit of fun get together at a friends :D

do you all cook the same thing, or something different? I guess you get to eat all the results afterwards? Sounds like it could be fun. Who’s doing the judging?

Hello Gardeners. I have walked over Mt Rouse again, eaten tandoori chicken in a wrap for breakfast at the cafe, mowed half a meadow, pulled out some more tomato plants, dug over some veggie patch. And eaten some fish and chips for lunch. I need to go and pop in some broadbean seeds and plant out some struggling lettuce seedlings (in case they are capable of developing). Then I reckon I might have a lie down and read.

I started making leek and potato soup because I found some feral potatoes and dug them, and a couple of leeks were big enough to pull. Then I decided to add a carrot. And a parsnip. And a small beetroot. Because they were there in the garden. And I grow them to eat. I think this soup may be an interesting pink colour. We have some leftover roast chicken. So I’ll pop that in and add a small can of corn. That should do for tea tonight.

And indeed it is pink. And rather earthy tasting. Not bad though.

Now for some scones jam and cream…..

:)

buffy said:

Now for some scones jam and cream…..

:)

mmmmmmmm….

yes please :D

It’s home made blackberry jam……

:)

buffy said:

It’s home made blackberry jam……

:)

wipes drool off chin

I’m going to have to try one of these.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=smörgåstårta&client=safari&hl=en-gb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=OK7FUd3-PIediAeG_ICIBA&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=672

bubba louie said:

I’m going to have to try one of these.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=smörgåstårta&client=safari&hl=en-gb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=OK7FUd3-PIediAeG_ICIBA&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=672

Link doesn’t work. What is it BL?

Happy Potter said:

bubba louie said:

I’m going to have to try one of these.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=smörgåstårta&client=safari&hl=en-gb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=OK7FUd3-PIediAeG_ICIBA&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=672

Link doesn’t work. What is it BL?

Link worked got me, it is a smörgåstårta

Morning all. Minus temp here and everything outside is white. I had a fun evening babysitting my granddaughter. We ate yummy veges and noodles, took photos of dogs decorated with noodles, made bubble blowers and recited a musical with all the noisy toys.
Nanna wrecked, poppet slept.

Then had to scrape the ice off the car windscreen to drive the 4 mins home, with side windows open so I could see. Brrr.

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

bubba louie said:

I’m going to have to try one of these.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=smörgåstårta&client=safari&hl=en-gb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=OK7FUd3-PIediAeG_ICIBA&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=672

Link doesn’t work. What is it BL?

Link worked got me, it is a smörgåstårta

Thanks.

Ooooo they look lovely :)

Good morning. Light frost here. My fingers froze on my bike ride, despite the leather gloves. I’ll have to research for something better. Maybe some disposable rubber gloves inside the leather ones.

Today we are going for lunch with our friends who are very The Good Life. It should be fun. We are going to eat some of one of their Muscovies that they killed last weekend. He will be curried, I understand. I have one, and one only, beautiful tangelo from my tree (the next crop is forming up nicely) so I’ll make self saucing tangelo puddinglets for our dessert. Then I suspect we will all sit around being replete.

:)

buffy said:

Good morning. Light frost here. My fingers froze on my bike ride, despite the leather gloves. I’ll have to research for something better. Maybe some disposable rubber gloves inside the leather ones.

Today we are going for lunch with our friends who are very The Good Life. It should be fun. We are going to eat some of one of their Muscovies that they killed last weekend. He will be curried, I understand. I have one, and one only, beautiful tangelo from my tree (the next crop is forming up nicely) so I’ll make self saucing tangelo puddinglets for our dessert. Then I suspect we will all sit around being replete.

:)

Thanking goodness for small blessings no doubt. ;)

‘heat pax’ warming insert pads for gloves. JJ has to use these motor biking to work on freezing mornings. He swears by them.

Happy Potter said:

‘heat pax’ warming insert pads for gloves. JJ has to use these motor biking to work on freezing mornings. He swears by them.

Yes, They are marvellous.

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

I have thrown the remaining mandarins into the freezer, skins and all…rather than waste them…

eat them frozen in summer. Used to do that with oranges.

Hooray! I’m not crazy…well not entirely.. :P

buffy said:

Good morning. Light frost here. My fingers froze on my bike ride, despite the leather gloves. I’ll have to research for something better. Maybe some disposable rubber gloves inside the leather ones.

thermal glove liners

Dinetta said:

bluegreen said:

Dinetta said:

I have thrown the remaining mandarins into the freezer, skins and all…rather than waste them…

eat them frozen in summer. Used to do that with oranges.

Hooray! I’m not crazy…well not entirely.. :P

My fridges aren’t big enough and I have no chest freezer, so I tend to juice all my citrus excess as ice blocks. Great in summer drinkies.

I’m very happy to know that some people actually love the food they feed, kill and dress.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4770226.html

roughbarked said:

I’m very happy to know that some people actually love the food they feed, kill and dress.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4770226.html

yep :)

Tangelo self saucing puddingettes looking good!

Heading off for lunch soon.

buffy said:

Tangelo self saucing puddingettes looking good!

Heading off for lunch soon.

I need you here. I have three wheelbarrows full of ‘little thorny’ mandarins.

Happy Potter said:

bubba louie said:

I’m going to have to try one of these.

https://www.google.com.au/search?q=smörgåstårta&client=safari&hl=en-gb&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=OK7FUd3-PIediAeG_ICIBA&ved=0CC0QsAQ&biw=1024&bih=672

Link doesn’t work. What is it BL?

Google smorgastarta.

roughbarked said:

I’m very happy to know that some people actually love the food they feed, kill and dress.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4770226.html

Shared :)

The chicken meat I’m getting is farm raised by a young family, heggaty’s in Elmore.

Happy Potter said:

roughbarked said:

Happy Potter said:

Link doesn’t work. What is it BL?

Link worked got me, it is a smörgåstårta

Thanks.

Ooooo they look lovely :)

I saw a picture of one, on Adam Hills Tonight, that Ella Hooper had for a birthday cake. Looked fantastic and you can let your imagination run wild.

roughbarked said:

I’m very happy to know that some people actually love the food they feed, kill and dress.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4770226.html

My sister and her husband used to raise their own beef. The animals led a great life and had no fear of people. It might sound callous but the last steer they butchered was scratching his head on the rifle barrel. He never knew what happened.

bubba louie said:

roughbarked said:

I’m very happy to know that some people actually love the food they feed, kill and dress.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4770226.html

My sister and her husband used to raise their own beef. The animals led a great life and had no fear of people. It might sound callous but the last steer they butchered was scratching his head on the rifle barrel. He never knew what happened.

doesn’t sound callous to me, although it would upset some who just don’t understand.

bluegreen said:

bubba louie said:

roughbarked said:

I’m very happy to know that some people actually love the food they feed, kill and dress.

http://www.abc.net.au/unleashed/4770226.html

My sister and her husband used to raise their own beef. The animals led a great life and had no fear of people. It might sound callous but the last steer they butchered was scratching his head on the rifle barrel. He never knew what happened.

doesn’t sound callous to me, although it would upset some who just don’t understand.

It’s the best way to kill, when the animal is relaxed and happy and is instant.

Happy Potter said:

bluegreen said:

bubba louie said:

My sister and her husband used to raise their own beef. The animals led a great life and had no fear of people. It might sound callous but the last steer they butchered was scratching his head on the rifle barrel. He never knew what happened.

doesn’t sound callous to me, although it would upset some who just don’t understand.

It’s the best way to kill, when the animal is relaxed and happy and is instant.

My sister couldn’t stay home when the butcher was coming. She was fine once it was just a carcass but until then she’d go out.