I am finding that I am increasingly interested in this subject within the various stuff that I concern myself – Amd I’m wondering if there’s not some common themes across all human activity.
Please tell me, what are the barriers, the things that frustrate the hell out of you, in your field?
Rule 303 said:
I am finding that I am increasingly interested in this subject within the various stuff that I concern myself – Amd I’m wondering if there’s not some common themes across all human activity.Please tell me, what are the barriers, the things that frustrate the hell out of you, in your field?
brain activity.
One thing that annoys people around me is when something that a person thinks is sub-optimal lies within someone else’s sphere of responsibility/authority. So that’s differing opinions on what is best practice, and not being allowed to “fix” it.
AP, I am curious to know what you think might happen if you did ‘fix it’.
Might I be cheeky enough to suggest that the ‘personality conflict’ designation is a barrier in and of itself?
Rule 303 said:
AP, I am curious to know what you think might happen if you did ‘fix it’.Might I be cheeky enough to suggest that the ‘personality conflict’ designation is a barrier in and of itself?
I wouldn’t see that as a ‘cheeky’ proposition.. T me.. facts are facts.. if I’m aware of them.
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
AP, I am curious to know what you think might happen if you did ‘fix it’.Might I be cheeky enough to suggest that the ‘personality conflict’ designation is a barrier in and of itself?
I wouldn’t see that as a ‘cheeky’ proposition.. T me.. facts are facts.. if I’m aware of them.
Today, after they broke the tractor, they wanted to pick up the trees that had been dug, He backed up to the trailer.. I said, you’ll need two pins.. when he went to get a bolt to hold the swinging arm.. He came bac sating there’s a pin there on the back of the tractor for what you want.. I replied with ..“yeah it will go through the swinging arm.. if only it goes through the trailers tongue..” yeah.. he had to walk back to the shed..
roughbarked said:
yeah.. he had to walk back to the shed..
Sooo… Incompetence?
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:yeah.. he had to walk back to the shed..Sooo… Incompetence?
He’s the farm manager. tractor driver and bookkeeper
roughbarked said:
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:yeah.. he had to walk back to the shed..Sooo… Incompetence?
He’s the farm manager. tractor driver and bookkeeper
I’m only the grafter.
roughbarked said:
He’s the farm manager. tractor driver and bookkeeper
I’ll take that as “yes”
Rule 303 said:
roughbarked said:He’s the farm manager. tractor driver and bookkeeperI’ll take that as “yes”
indeed you may.
Rule 303 said:
I am finding that I am increasingly interested in this subject within the various stuff that I concern myself – Amd I’m wondering if there’s not some common themes across all human activity.Please tell me, what are the barriers, the things that frustrate the hell out of you, in your field?
morrie said:
Rule 303 said:
I am finding that I am increasingly interested in this subject within the various stuff that I concern myself – Amd I’m wondering if there’s not some common themes across all human activity.Please tell me, what are the barriers, the things that frustrate the hell out of you, in your field?
Misconceptions, based on plausible, but incorrect, assumptions which are so appealing that they are hard to overturn.
unless overconfidence causes your worker to make you walk back to the shed for another pin..
2. The appeal of instant answers, delivered by people gifted in delivering a plausible line of bullshit, over the application of data measurement, analysis, hypothesis and investigation, aka the scientific method.
morrie said:
2. The appeal of instant answers, delivered by people gifted in delivering a plausible line of bullshit, over the application of data measurement, analysis, hypothesis and investigation, aka the scientific method.
stop talking about me like that .. ;)
Rule 303 said:
AP, I am curious to know what you think might happen if you did ‘fix it’.Might I be cheeky enough to suggest that the ‘personality conflict’ designation is a barrier in and of itself?
Someone would throw a tanty about their system being mucked up. Most of that happens a couple of levels up from me in the hierarchy, so it doesn’t affect me much directly.
Mind you, miscommunication could be an issue when you’ve got four or five different nationalities working together with them all speaking english as a second or third language….
Rule 303 said:
Please tell me, what are the barriers, the things that frustrate the hell out of you, in your field?
Upper management and their failure to understand the time and resources needed to accomplish a given task.
Upper management and their attitude towards well trained and previously enthusiastic staff.
Upper management and their appalling belief that untrained, inexperienced outsourced staff that have no personal investment in a project will somehow be more cost effective and more productive.
Unfortunately in my field, this isn’t something that will change until there is a change of government. and policy.
I had a hard week. Thanks for the opportunity to have a whinge.
Teleost said:
Rule 303 said:
Please tell me, what are the barriers, the things that frustrate the hell out of you, in your field?
Upper management and their failure to understand the time and resources needed to accomplish a given task.
Upper management and their attitude towards well trained and previously enthusiastic staff.
Upper management and their appalling belief that untrained, inexperienced outsourced staff that have no personal investment in a project will somehow be more cost effective and more productive.
Unfortunately in my field, this isn’t something that will change until there is a change of government. and policy.
I had a hard week. Thanks for the opportunity to have a whinge.
that sounds like something that could come out of my mouth
Angus Prune said:
Rule 303 said:
AP, I am curious to know what you think might happen if you did ‘fix it’.Might I be cheeky enough to suggest that the ‘personality conflict’ designation is a barrier in and of itself?
Someone would throw a tanty about their system being mucked up. Most of that happens a couple of levels up from me in the hierarchy, so it doesn’t affect me much directly.
Mind you, miscommunication could be an issue when you’ve got four or five different nationalities working together with them all speaking english as a second or third language….
around here they simply ignore the Inglese. Other than to throw taunts at us.
what frustrating days you all have…
is there any happiness or contentment at workplaces these days?
Arts said:
what frustrating days you all have…is there any happiness or contentment at workplaces these days?
I like the people I work with, and my boss is awesome. The other stuff, smile and remember you get to go home at the end of the day.
Divine Angel said:
Arts said:
what frustrating days you all have…is there any happiness or contentment at workplaces these days?
I like the people I work with, and my boss is awesome. The other stuff, smile and remember you get to go home at the end of the day.
I get fed up with demands for ‘evidence-based’ ideas.
“Where’s the evidence base to show we should do that?”, they howl.
Well, there isn’t any. Let’s try it, and see if it works. Then, we’ll have some evidence.
captain_spalding said:
I get fed up with demands for ‘evidence-based’ ideas.“Where’s the evidence base to show we should do that?”, they howl.
Well, there isn’t any. Let’s try it, and see if it works. Then, we’ll have some evidence.
+1, I think some of the EB brigade take it too literal and too far.
poikilotherm said:
captain_spalding said:
I get fed up with demands for ‘evidence-based’ ideas.“Where’s the evidence base to show we should do that?”, they howl.
Well, there isn’t any. Let’s try it, and see if it works. Then, we’ll have some evidence.
+1, I think some of the EB brigade take it too literal and too far.
Yes. Unless it’s been tried and proven elsewhere, we dare not think of doing it here.
Originality? Innovation? Never heard of them.
And me too on the evidence based thing. I trained before there was a name for that, and it was just called clinical experience before.
And in my para medical field, I’m getting very sick of people just ordering more and more tests. We really need to stop and think……will the result of this test in any way change the action we are going to take to fix/ameliorate the condition. If the answer is no, then skip that test. Please. This is why medicine is becoming such a money sink. Use your initiative and your intuition…..and be brave enough to make a decision for goodness sake.
Maybe it’s just as I’ve got older that I am happier to take responsibility. But I think I understood I had to do it from pretty early on. I have my particular skill and knowledge set and it is my responsibility to apply it.
>>is there any happiness or contentment at workplaces these days?<<
Yes, there is in mine. Both me and my receptionist/assistant/Girl Friday, whatever we should call her. We’ve been working together over 25 years, we can read each other pretty well, and we know the vast proportion of the patients very well. (Quite a few of them are rellies of hers!) I can’t say I was always this sanguine (DA!!!) but it’s a very nice place to be.
buffy said:
Use your initiative and your intuition…..and be brave enough to make a decision for goodness sake.
That’s what a lot of the EB crowd are about: bum-coverage.
The ability, in the case of a stuff-up, to point to someone else, and say “we only did it because THEY said it was a good idea”.
Yep, that’s the one:
>>bum-coverage.<<
It’s also why we have professional indemnity insurance.
>Use your initiative and your intuition…..and be brave enough to make a decision for goodness sake.
Yes, and no.
In a large group situation, the pushiest person will always get their way using this approach. Unfortunately, they are not always correct and this can lead to an endless cycle of poor outcomes. Sometimes things that seem intuitively correct are not. It is only by actually collecting some data and analysing it that new approaches can be developed. I fight this battle all the time.
buffy said:
Yep, that’s the one:
>>bum-coverage.<<
It’s also why we have professional indemnity insurance.
So its more a litigation than EB problem?
I think a lot of it is arse covering poikilotherm. There have been major advances in cataract surgery and recently in the treatment of macular degeneration. But there has actually been a lot of serendipity involved, as there often is in medical advances. That has not changed in the 15 years we have had ‘evidence based medicine’.
buffy said:
I think a lot of it is arse covering poikilotherm. There have been major advances in cataract surgery and recently in the treatment of macular degeneration. But there has actually been a lot of serendipity involved, as there often is in medical advances. That has not changed in the 15 years we have had ‘evidence based medicine’.
Naturally, remember EB was meant to be studies + experience, the second bit seems to be forgotten.
What is EB?
(Initialisation was introduced without definition.)
Michael V said:
What is EB?(Initialisation was introduced without definition.)
Evidence Based (insert occupation here)
poikilotherm said:
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Michael V said:
What is EB?(Initialisation was introduced without definition.)
Evidence Based (insert occupation here)
Thanks. :)
poikilotherm said:
Michael V said:
What is EB?(Initialisation was introduced without definition.)
Evidence Based (insert occupation here)
Senior and middle management who wouldn’t have a clue how to find their arse with a map.
sibeen said:
Senior and middle management who wouldn’t have a clue how to find their arse with a map.
with a GPS they can still get lost.
Rule 303 said:
Please tell me, what are the barriers, the things that frustrate the hell out of you, in your field?
Bosses who think their success and experience is triumphant over any other contributions.
The Dunning-Kruger effect.
A lack of empirical research, or a lack of application of empirical research, confidently applied to speculation.