Logical people are incredibly easy to irritate. They think and approach problems a particular way, and get flustered when others do the opposite.

Felix Salmon pointed out a recent thread on Quora that asked ‘what are some good ways to annoy extremely logical people?’

Here are some of the best answers.

1. Let “intuition” decide
   Quora user Michael Wolfe gives an example of some other things that infuriate logical people, an appeal to emotions, referring to “nature” and a touch of conspiracy, via the example of the anti-vaccination movement:

“My intuition just tells me that vaccines are bad for you. Native people have lived just fine for centuries without putting “toxins” in their bodies — they are more in tune with nature. I also have a friend whose son became autistic after he was vaccinated. The doctor said it wasn’t the reason why, but he has a typical western medicine mindset and must be taking money from the vaccine companies. I don’t want to argue about it – it makes me so angry!”

More ….. http://au.businessinsider.com/ways-to-annoy-logical-people-2013-7

LOL

Speaking of infuriating logical people, I heard someone on telly last night (Shitsville Express, ABC2) use the term “coal front”.

Divine Angel said:

LOL

Speaking of infuriating logical people, I heard someone on telly last night (Shitsville Express, ABC2) use the term “coal front”.

I don’t think it’s funny myself.

This sort of stereotyping of people into “logical people” and the rest (otherwise known as “the nutters”) not only alienates people who might be open to a truly logical discussion, but also overlooks the illogicalities in the extreme “logical” position, which include:

1. It is entirely illogical to ignore emotional responses in any decision about anything that affects peoples’ emotions.
2. It is illogical to fail to recognise that scientific knowledge is limited.
3. It is illogical to ignore possibilities with low probability but large adverse consequences.
4. It is illogical to ignore the fact that some groups supporting your position have massive vested interests.

None of this means that anti-vaxers, unskeptical climate change doubter alarmists, new age creationists, or 9/11 troofers (to name but a few) should be treated as having a valid case, but it does mean that we should examine evidence that supports our own beliefs more critically, especially when arguments against an illogical fringe group are extended to include a whole range of other groups with widely varying degrees of illogicality.

>>People love to accuse people of “begging the question.” They’re usually using it wrong.

This one is not just irritating it’s wrong (doubly).

>>This sort of stereotyping of people into “logical people” and the rest (otherwise known as “the nutters”) not only alienates people who might be open to a truly logical discussion, but also overlooks the illogicalities in the extreme “logical” position…

You’re far too forgiving.

Are you going for Peter Jensen’s job?

:)

Ian said:

>>This sort of stereotyping of people into “logical people” and the rest (otherwise known as “the nutters”) not only alienates people who might be open to a truly logical discussion, but also overlooks the illogicalities in the extreme “logical” position…

You’re far too forgiving.

Are you going for Peter Jensen’s job?

:)

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I’m not forgiving anyone, I’m being critical of pseudo-logical people.

But if I was a woman, and I did want to be Peter Jensen, I could get 40% off apparently:

Women’s Peter Jensen Sale – Up to 40% Off SS13 Peter Jensen‎

www.farfetch.com/Peter_Jensen_sale

“unskeptical climate change doubter alarmists”

LOL

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

>>This sort of stereotyping of people into “logical people” and the rest (otherwise known as “the nutters”) not only alienates people who might be open to a truly logical discussion, but also overlooks the illogicalities in the extreme “logical” position…

You’re far too forgiving.

Are you going for Peter Jensen’s job?

:)

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I’m not forgiving anyone, I’m being critical of pseudo-logical people.

Ok.

Maybe Peter Jensen is not a good example.

The Rev Dodgson said:

But if I was a woman, and I did want to be Peter Jensen, I could get 40% off apparently:

Women’s Peter Jensen Sale – Up to 40% Off SS13 Peter Jensen‎

www.farfetch.com/Peter_Jensen_sale

:)

He is an Anglican Archbishop.

I feel pretty..

>I also have a friend whose son became autistic after he was vaccinated.

Didn’t Heisenberg prove this 100 years ago?

The Rev Dodgson said:

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I’m not forgiving anyone, I’m being critical of pseudo-logical people.

Umm yeah. I see what you’re driving at. You are right.

In fact, you are always right.

>In fact, you are always right.

Me too, makes life a lot simpler.

Bubblecar said:

>In fact, you are always right.

Me too, makes life a lot simpler.

Too right

Like Ian and Rev and Bubbles I’m mostly right.
There are rare occasions when I’m with the left but on most issues I take the position of the right.

Peak Warming Man said:

Like Ian and Rev and Bubbles I’m mostly right.
There are rare occasions when I’m with the left but on most issues I take the position of the right.

You’re not all right then?

Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

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I’m not forgiving anyone, I’m being critical of pseudo-logical people.

Umm yeah. I see what you’re driving at. You are right.

In fact, you are always right.

Not always.

For instance, everything stated by me in this message is wrong.

The Rev Dodgson said:

Ian said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

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I’m not forgiving anyone, I’m being critical of pseudo-logical people.

Umm yeah. I see what you’re driving at. You are right.

In fact, you are always right.

Not always.

For instance, everything stated by me in this message is wrong.

Yeah, nah

Have you ever changed the mind (with logic) of a global warming denier Rev?

You can only discuss things logically with open-minded logical people, otherwise you are wasting your time.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QCq2T7zclXY

I think there could even more than 13 ways to be annoying in an argument.

It’s not easy to get a rise out of the rev though… es un tipo frío

PermeateFree said:

Have you ever changed the mind (with logic) of a global warming denier Rev?

No, why do you ask?

1. Claim the person you wish to irritate is easy to irritate.

Real 1: Be right.

OCDC said:

Real 1: Be right.

If you can’t be right, be annoying.

Carmen_Sandiego said:

OCDC said:

Real 1: Be right.

If you can’t be right, be annoying.

I just do both :-)

The Rev Dodgson said:

PermeateFree said:

Have you ever changed the mind (with logic) of a global warming denier Rev?

No, why do you ask?

Rev, I have watched you debating global warming with the most die-hard deniers and have noted that you have not made the slightest impression upon them. I have been most impressed with your patience and logical argument, using many scientific references and presenting the facts in a manner easily understood. Yet still without persuading any of these people to your understanding, an understanding similar to the opinion of over 98% of scientists directly involved with climate change.

However, despite your excellent and super-human efforts, the only results were to give these wanton deniers the opportunity and credability to debate someone like yourself. This enabled them to bring up all sorts of irrelevances and misinformation that have been designed by some very smart people with a scientific background, but also with strong vested interests, whereby less scientifically minded people listening to the debate would find plausible.

I realise your objective is to debunk such misinformation and present a scientific perspective, but the trouble is the deniers have such a store of this misinformation and can present it as if having similar scientific credentials to yourself. From this situation what happens is not clarity, but more confusion with scientific credibility being questioned. Some of these people are nutters, but more commonly are with strong vested interests and benefit from the generation of CO2 a long lasting Greenhouse Gas.

These deniers have had more than a good run with their misinformation and creating confusion when time is critical if we are to avoid run-away global warming. We and the rest of the world are only just beginning to call these people for what the are, and we should also stop giving them scientific credibility and the opportunity to continue with their planned destructive behaviour.

As such Rev, I think your logical and patient attempts to promote science, can with such unscrupulous opposition be used to further their own agenda. These people set out to discredit science and scientists and we should spend more time and energy pointing out their underhand tactics and abuse of scientific endeavour.

Claim expertise in a field where you have none; make erroneous claims in that field; when corrected by someone with expertise, tell them that they are idiots; throw in some incorrect data to support the erroneous statments; continue to tell everyone else they are idiots; then, when presented with irrefutable evidence that disproves your claims, withdraw ungraciously, without apology.

Repeat at regular intervals.

morrie said:

Claim expertise in a field where you have none; make erroneous claims in that field; when corrected by someone with expertise, tell them that they are idiots; throw in some incorrect data to support the erroneous statments; continue to tell everyone else they are idiots; then, when presented with irrefutable evidence that disproves your claims, withdraw ungraciously, without apology.

‘Round here that’s called ‘pulling a Wookie’.

Witty Rejoinder said:

morrie said:

Claim expertise in a field where you have none; make erroneous claims in that field; when corrected by someone with expertise, tell them that they are idiots; throw in some incorrect data to support the erroneous statments; continue to tell everyone else they are idiots; then, when presented with irrefutable evidence that disproves your claims, withdraw ungraciously, without apology.

‘Round here that’s called ‘pulling a Wookie’.

say what you want

never give an inch

never back down

wookiemeister said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

morrie said:

Claim expertise in a field where you have none; make erroneous claims in that field; when corrected by someone with expertise, tell them that they are idiots; throw in some incorrect data to support the erroneous statments; continue to tell everyone else they are idiots; then, when presented with irrefutable evidence that disproves your claims, withdraw ungraciously, without apology.

‘Round here that’s called ‘pulling a Wookie’.

say what you want

never give an inch

never back down

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Succint!

I miss the Zark days.

Not to mention pi=3 guy (Donde? i think) And the 6000 year old earth guy .
Where has all the fun gone?

gaghalfrunt said:

I miss the Zark days.

its ok you’ve got me now

gaghalfrunt said:

Not to mention pi=3 guy (Donde? i think) And the 6000 year old earth guy .
Where has all the fun gone?

Have you heard of Steve Waterman ? He has some strange ideas …

And if you want to see what happens when numerology meets the ability to manipulate transcendental equations, check out Polynomial for fine structure constant and higgs boson mass

morrie said:

Claim expertise in a field where you have none; make erroneous claims in that field; when corrected by someone with expertise, tell them that they are idiots; throw in some incorrect data to support the erroneous statments; continue to tell everyone else they are idiots; then, when presented with irrefutable evidence that disproves your claims, withdraw ungraciously, without apology.

Repeat at regular intervals.

Where do you make your living morrie? Oh that’s right mining.

PM 2Ring said:

gaghalfrunt said:

Not to mention pi=3 guy (Donde? i think) And the 6000 year old earth guy .
Where has all the fun gone?

Have you heard of Steve Waterman ? He has some strange ideas …

And if you want to see what happens when numerology meets the ability to manipulate transcendental equations, check out Polynomial for fine structure constant and higgs boson mass

that map would be perfect for a cereal packet cut out

wookiemeister said:

PM 2Ring said:

Have you heard of Steve Waterman ? He has some strange ideas …

that map would be perfect for a cereal packet cut out

Also see 0977: Map Projections

sometimes you can win and argument and lose a friend..

some battles arn’t worth winning.