googling gives me several hits, all with the same answer.
“Unfortunately, powdered formula cannot be frozen because it can change the composition of the formula, causing it to not mix well with water.”

the nutrients aren’t affected apparently, and I read somewhere about proteins separating or something.

I’ve just frozen some, so I guess I’ll see how it mixes…plus he’s almost 18 months old and he gets his nutrients elsewhere.
(he won’t do cows milk)
so, my question is, am I going to poison this child or anything?

purple said:

googling gives me several hits, all with the same answer.
“Unfortunately, powdered formula cannot be frozen because it can change the composition of the formula, causing it to not mix well with water.”

the nutrients aren’t affected apparently, and I read somewhere about proteins separating or something.

I’ve just frozen some, so I guess I’ll see how it mixes…plus he’s almost 18 months old and he gets his nutrients elsewhere.
(he won’t do cows milk)
so, my question is, am I going to poison this child or anything?

Sounds more like it will be lumpy and unpalatable rather than toxic.

But what purpose does freezing the formula serve?

Lumpy is easy to fix, just put it in the vitamizer, or use a stick blender on it. And as for unpalatable, it could well be like dried milk…….tastes a lot better if made up and let to sit for 24 hours in the fridge.

BTW, Purps, congratulations, I must admit I wasn’t paying attention and hadn’t even realised that you were pregnant.

waggles eyebrows

sibeen said:

BTW, Purps, congratulations, I must admit I wasn’t paying attention and hadn’t even realised that you were pregnant.

waggles eyebrows

18 months old

purple said:

googling gives me several hits, all with the same answer.
“Unfortunately, powdered formula cannot be frozen because it can change the composition of the formula, causing it to not mix well with water.”

the nutrients aren’t affected apparently, and I read somewhere about proteins separating or something.

I’ve just frozen some, so I guess I’ll see how it mixes…plus he’s almost 18 months old and he gets his nutrients elsewhere.
(he won’t do cows milk)
so, my question is, am I going to poison this child or anything?

try goats milk

wookiemeister said:

purple said:

googling gives me several hits, all with the same answer.
“Unfortunately, powdered formula cannot be frozen because it can change the composition of the formula, causing it to not mix well with water.”

the nutrients aren’t affected apparently, and I read somewhere about proteins separating or something.

I’ve just frozen some, so I guess I’ll see how it mixes…plus he’s almost 18 months old and he gets his nutrients elsewhere.
(he won’t do cows milk)
so, my question is, am I going to poison this child or anything?

try goats milk

Goats milk is naturally homogenised. ie it has a finer structure. Not sure about freezing, but it might well behave differently.

morrie said:

wookiemeister said:

purple said:

googling gives me several hits, all with the same answer.
“Unfortunately, powdered formula cannot be frozen because it can change the composition of the formula, causing it to not mix well with water.”

the nutrients aren’t affected apparently, and I read somewhere about proteins separating or something.

I’ve just frozen some, so I guess I’ll see how it mixes…plus he’s almost 18 months old and he gets his nutrients elsewhere.
(he won’t do cows milk)
so, my question is, am I going to poison this child or anything?

try goats milk

Goats milk is naturally homogenised. ie it has a finer structure. Not sure about freezing, but it might well behave differently.

you could just get it fresh in a carton no need to freeze

We don’t have any data on why she wants to freeze it in the first place.

roughbarked said:

We don’t have any data on why she wants to freeze it in the first place.

her kid can’t drink cows milk

thanks for the replies.

once you open the tin, you have to use it within a month.
I usually only have him once a week, so there’s no way I could use a whole tin in that time.

I had cause to buy some today, so I thought I’d keep some here. hence the freezing.

this is my boy (I hope the link works…not sure with facebook)

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

We don’t have any data on why she wants to freeze it in the first place.

her kid can’t drink cows milk

That’s still not a reason to freeze the formula.
Most formulas are made from cows milk anyway.

purple said:

this is my boy (I hope the link works…not sure with facebook)

What a little cutie!

:-)

I think so too witty :)
I love being Grandma. a lot.

purple said:

I think so too witty :)
I love being Grandma. a lot.

Oh, gradma, I may have misunderstood your earlier post :)

your boy and you only have him once a week? Anyway, If the tin is too big, why not buy smaller tins? The Powdered milk I get comes with a plastic re-sealable lid and often stays in the cupboard until well past the use by date. it still works when I put it in my coffee.

sibeen said:

purple said:

I think so too witty :)
I love being Grandma. a lot.

Oh, gradma, I may have misunderstood your earlier post :)

OK so grandma, why doesn’t his mother provide you with formula for one day a week?

oh he’s my boy roughbarked :D
and the tins don’t come any smaller.

looks like it’ll be a suck it and see

you can buy premade formula in a carton that you can just open as you need, ready to drink

You know that you can by individual serve sachets of formula…

Of course I mean “buy”…

purple said:

oh he’s my boy roughbarked :D
and the tins don’t come any smaller.

looks like it’ll be a suck it and see

I’d be asking his mother for enough formula for the days you have him. It is a small ask and to tell the truth I haven’t met a mother who didn’t do that anyway.

I appreciate the advice, but I’m after the “will it be OK” bit.

it is what it is

furious said:

You know that you can by individual serve sachets of formula…

Yes. A problem could be though that one would need to use the same formula that he’s been getting at home as even a small change may upset the equilibrium.

For example, Wookie suggesting goats milk. What if this disagreed with him?

I raised my first child on freshly milked goats milk but it was on advice. Not simply because I wanted to try something different.

• I appreciate the advice, but I’m after the “will it be OK” bit.

Its not something many other people would do so who knows?

Purps, I can see that heat will effect the formula, de-nature (sp) the proteins. I can’t see freezing doing the same. It may glug it up a bit, but I can’t see it hurting anyone.

furious said:

• I appreciate the advice, but I’m after the “will it be OK” bit.

Its not something many other people would do so who knows?

Yes. That’s a valid point.

I think morrie’s advice was good though.

sibeen said:

Purps, I can see that heat will effect the formula, de-nature (sp) the proteins. I can’t see freezing doing the same. It may glug it up a bit, but I can’t see it hurting anyone.

That’s my thinking too. Nothing a whizz in the bamix can’t fix.

a scientist maybe? ;)

all of the baby sites are copy paste the same info.

I guess as it’s a comfort thing rather than a nutrition thing, I’ll just see how it mixes up.

thanks all
goodnight
xo

• I can’t see freezing doing the same

Coldness may affect probiotic activity…

roughbarked said:

furious said:

You know that you can by individual serve sachets of formula…

Yes. A problem could be though that one would need to use the same formula that he’s been getting at home as even a small change may upset the equilibrium.

For example, Wookie suggesting goats milk. What if this disagreed with him?

I raised my first child on freshly milked goats milk but it was on advice. Not simply because I wanted to try something different.

a close relative can’t drink cows milk, after many years they stumbled upon goats milk and haven’t looked back

• a close relative can’t drink cows milk, after many years they stumbled upon goats milk and haven’t looked back

Or you could just not drink milk…

wookiemeister said:

roughbarked said:

furious said:

You know that you can by individual serve sachets of formula…

Yes. A problem could be though that one would need to use the same formula that he’s been getting at home as even a small change may upset the equilibrium.

For example, Wookie suggesting goats milk. What if this disagreed with him?

I raised my first child on freshly milked goats milk but it was on advice. Not simply because I wanted to try something different.

a close relative can’t drink cows milk, after many years they stumbled upon goats milk and haven’t looked back

Nothing wrong with goats milk as long as the goat isn’t tied to a stake on the same patch of grass all week.

furious said:

• a close relative can’t drink cows milk, after many years they stumbled upon goats milk and haven’t looked back

Or you could just not drink milk…

An option many choose after the first few years of life.

furious said:

• a close relative can’t drink cows milk, after many years they stumbled upon goats milk and haven’t looked back

Or you could just not drink milk…

me?

I drink milk all the time

the only time I had complications was in turkey when I started drinking lots of something called milky salep

I see an opportunity for an experiment!

When I froze breast milk to give to my babies, they didn’t like it once it had been defrosted. I don’t know why, but I do recall a nurse telling me that the freezing process affects the milk – so firstly bubs might not like the taste.

I have never frozen formula but the same think might occur – I do recall friends having to use the made up formula within a certain time frame of mixing…

you can get the formula in sachets,, you can even buy the premade formula in (individual) boxes, but I dare say they are hideously expensive.

Does the tin have recommended temp range to store the formula in? I wonder if just putting the tin of powder in the freezer would help the longevity of the product… why does it have to be used within a month of opening? powdered milk is fine for years..

Our first had defrosted breast milk for months (as well as fresh) and never had a problem.

yeah lot’s of mums freeze breast milk.. but not all babies like the defrosted… matter of tastes.. I don’t eat cold pizza the next day either

They’re all different sure, but the defrosted milk is served at the same temperature (or very close) to the fresh stuff so the pizza analogy is not quite right.

MartinB said:

They’re all different sure, but the defrosted milk is served at the same temperature (or very close) to the fresh stuff so the pizza analogy is not quite right.

you mean you crazy people don’t even heat up the next day pizza?

I’m not saying that’s the solution.. just that it might be a ‘problem’

but all that can be done is an experiment really.. (most people would rather not experiment on their own though…. maybe Freud..

I know that plenty of babies don’t accept expressed milk but I’d always assumed that was about the feel of the bottle compared with the breast rather than an issue of taste. It’s so hard to get those babies to explain themselves…

You did say cold pizza.

MartinB said:

I know that plenty of babies don’t accept expressed milk but I’d always assumed that was about the feel of the bottle compared with the breast rather than an issue of taste. It’s so hard to get those babies to explain themselves…

so you don’t think that the freezing process would change anything in the structure or taste if you bring it back to ‘body temp’?

hmmm what we need is some sort of baby translator…

MartinB said:

You did say cold pizza.

haha so I did…

I would have got away with that on another forum without you meddling kids..

I have raised many small mammals on frozen then reconstituted human baby formula. No apparent problems.

Jing Joh said:

I have raised many small mammals on frozen then reconstituted human baby formula. No apparent problems.

Aren’t people supposed to use a particular type of formula for the native marsupials such the macropods. Okay I simply meant the roos and the like. If I recall the formula name started with a :“D” longtime ago that I was connected with the WIRES mob.

monkey skipper said:

Aren’t people supposed to use a particular type of formula for the native marsupials such the macropods. Okay I simply meant the roos and the like. If I recall the formula name started with a :“D” longtime ago that I was connected with the WIRES mob.

Yes, I am referring to Eutherian mammals, specifically bats.

Jing Joh said:

monkey skipper said:

Aren’t people supposed to use a particular type of formula for the native marsupials such the macropods. Okay I simply meant the roos and the like. If I recall the formula name started with a :“D” longtime ago that I was connected with the WIRES mob.

Yes, I am referring to Eutherian mammals, specifically bats.

I see.

It mixes up just fine.
myth – busted

Great work.

Definitely better than throwing it out!

for sure :)