….of life is what I’m aiming for, as a respectable minimum, meaning I kick the bucket at around my mid-70s. And I want those to be the most creative years of my life. I have all sorts of worlds to explore artistically (in visual art, music and writing), for my own delight and the benefit of others.

As things stand, I’m 54, obese, a habitual overeater and borderline alcoholic. A lone wolf, but feeling at times that it’s all a bit beyond my control. The creative work is going extremely well but there’s not enough focus on it.

Self hypnosis is good for me but it’s not enough. I’m still debating the merits & otherwise of nicotine. During my few days on the vaping (which regular readers will recall) I ate far less and composed excellent music. But I also experienced a couple of overdoses (which experienced use would screen out) and knew I was reinstalling an addiction associated with various serious health risks.

On the other hand, my current course of life is unlikely to yield 20 creative years.

Where do I go from here?

Bubblecar said:

Where do I go from here?

The doctor.

kii said:

Bubblecar said:

Where do I go from here?

The doctor.

Nah. I was aking people to think, but never mind.

aking = asking

I apologise for this thread, ignore it. My own resources are more than adequate.

I’ll do it my way :)

I am thinking.

Get some professional support to kick you in the right direction – you take meds for high BP and other things. If you make any changes to your lifestyle the advice is always do it in consultation with your GP.

You have good intentions, you ride a bicycle and walk, but as you point out – you overeat and drink a lot.

And on the eighth day God declared the finite, indeterminate life.

you need to change your mindset. as a casual observer I see you discussing food and alcohol and diets about 85% percent of the time, and music and art about 10% of the time (the rest is chit chat)

I reckon set yourself and experiment. Draw under the influence of.. I know it’s been done before, but it’s not about public viewing, it’s about getting yourself into practice to draw/paint/play EVERYDAY as a task. Not ‘I will get to it after this wine/sherry/sideofbeef’ but as a chore you must do. Artistic people still have to practice and train themselves to be disciplined.

that’s what you need discipline… and it’s going to have to come from within.

FWIW I have always liked the art you have chosen to share with us.

Bubblecar said:

I apologise for this thread, ignore it. My own resources are more than adequate.

I’ll do it my way :)

Seems like a perfectly cromulent* thread to me.

In my student days in London there used to be a crazy guy who walked the streets with a placard listing the 7 deadly sins to be avoided, the only one of which I remember was “sitting”.

I don’t drink a lot of alcohol or coffee, and I don’t indulge in any other drugs, but I do do an awful lot of sitting. Did the crazy guy in London have a point? Is sitting as bad as they say it is?

• How come “cromulent” still gets flagged as a spelling mistake?

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

I apologise for this thread, ignore it. My own resources are more than adequate.

I’ll do it my way :)

Seems like a perfectly cromulent* thread to me.

In my student days in London there used to be a crazy guy who walked the streets with a placard listing the 7 deadly sins to be avoided, the only one of which I remember was “sitting”.

I don’t drink a lot of alcohol or coffee, and I don’t indulge in any other drugs, but I do do an awful lot of sitting. Did the crazy guy in London have a point? Is sitting as bad as they say it is?

• How come “cromulent” still gets flagged as a spelling mistake?
  

Several people in my work place have have raised up their work stations and taken to standing at their desk.

Arts said:

you need to change your mindset. as a casual observer I see you discussing food and alcohol and diets about 85% percent of the time, and music and art about 10% of the time (the rest is chit chat)

I reckon set yourself and experiment. Draw under the influence of.. I know it’s been done before, but it’s not about public viewing, it’s about getting yourself into practice to draw/paint/play EVERYDAY as a task. Not ‘I will get to it after this wine/sherry/sideofbeef’ but as a chore you must do. Artistic people still have to practice and train themselves to be disciplined.

that’s what you need discipline… and it’s going to have to come from within.

FWIW I have always liked the art you have chosen to share with us.

What she said.

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Bubblecar said:

I apologise for this thread, ignore it. My own resources are more than adequate.

I’ll do it my way :)

Seems like a perfectly cromulent* thread to me.

In my student days in London there used to be a crazy guy who walked the streets with a placard listing the 7 deadly sins to be avoided, the only one of which I remember was “sitting”.

I don’t drink a lot of alcohol or coffee, and I don’t indulge in any other drugs, but I do do an awful lot of sitting. Did the crazy guy in London have a point? Is sitting as bad as they say it is?

• How come “cromulent” still gets flagged as a spelling mistake?
  

Several people in my work place have have raised up their work stations and taken to standing at their desk.

at least that’s better than the exercise ball phase…

I stand all day at work. I don’t think that’s a good solution either.

I’ve noticed Lisa Simpson still uses her ergonomic stool though. Not sure about that, it seems to have stunted her growth a bit.

Arts said:

diddly-squat said:

The Rev Dodgson said:

Seems like a perfectly cromulent* thread to me.

In my student days in London there used to be a crazy guy who walked the streets with a placard listing the 7 deadly sins to be avoided, the only one of which I remember was “sitting”.

I don’t drink a lot of alcohol or coffee, and I don’t indulge in any other drugs, but I do do an awful lot of sitting. Did the crazy guy in London have a point? Is sitting as bad as they say it is?

• How come “cromulent” still gets flagged as a spelling mistake?
  

Several people in my work place have have raised up their work stations and taken to standing at their desk.

at least that’s better than the exercise ball phase…

That’s still a thing for some…

it’s ok to stand if you also get to ambulate occasionally.

Donald Rumsfeld used to stand at his desk. He didn’t have much sympathy for the duress technique of making prisoners stand.

Arts said:

it’s ok to stand if you also get to ambulate occasionally.

I’ve just discovered than ambulant and ambulate mean the same thing (according to Google).

I think the problem in offices is the standard of desk chairs, ergonomics are forgone for cost and the fact that people still get up and go do things and sit down twenty times a day, but they aren’t using their legs to do it.

and people sit lazily.

Divine Angel said:

Arts said:

it’s ok to stand if you also get to ambulate occasionally.

I’ve just discovered than ambulant and ambulate mean the same thing (according to Google).

you’re going home in the back of an ambulant…

although I’ve never really understood that.. because if you are in the back of an ambulance… you generally aren’t going home…

but at least we are being creative..

“Hey, they have chairs with wheels and here I am using my legs like a sucker!”

They don’t mean exactly the same thing; one’s an adjective and one’s a verb.

~(I think we got this thread back on track without anyone seeing..) ~

In any case, that’s my learnin’ for the day. I knew I hung out here for a reason.

Arts said:

it’s ok to stand if you also get to ambulate occasionally.

I stand all day at work, but I also walk a lot. In fact if I stand in one place for too long my feet burn like demons on fire from the hell pits of Santa’s lair. I wear Redback workboots and stand on a mat thingy.

“…task…”

Mil’ speak.

kii said:

Arts said:

it’s ok to stand if you also get to ambulate occasionally.

I stand all day at work, but I also walk a lot. In fact if I stand in one place for too long my feet burn like demons on fire from the hell pits of Santa’s lair. I wear Redback workboots and stand on a mat thingy.

concrete floors?

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Arts said:

it’s ok to stand if you also get to ambulate occasionally.

I stand all day at work, but I also walk a lot. In fact if I stand in one place for too long my feet burn like demons on fire from the hell pits of Santa’s lair. I wear Redback workboots and stand on a mat thingy.

concrete floors?

Carpet on concrete.

Anyway, you are what you eat. It is up to you to eat to live rather than eat to live.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

I stand all day at work, but I also walk a lot. In fact if I stand in one place for too long my feet burn like demons on fire from the hell pits of Santa’s lair. I wear Redback workboots and stand on a mat thingy.

concrete floors?

Carpet on concrete.

You’ve got a neoprene mat?

roughbarked said:

kii said:

roughbarked said:

concrete floors?

Carpet on concrete.

You’ve got a neoprene mat?

Yes, that’s what I said – a mat thingy.

kii said:

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Carpet on concrete.

You’ve got a neoprene mat?

Yes, that’s what I said – a mat thingy.

Then you are doing about as much as you can.. Need to ask management for stress relief breaks where you can get your feet off the concrete.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….

Ooops…sorry.

roughbarked said:

Anyway, you are what you eat. It is up to you to eat to live rather than eat to live.

I buggered that one up didn’t I?

Eat to live rather than live to eat.

kii said:

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA….

Ooops…sorry.

It’s OK that’s what my bosses always do when I suggest such things.

Standing At Your Desk Is Good For Your Health

diddly-squat said:

Standing At Your Desk Is Good For Your Health

Mobile desks are better.

Yes, sitting down for extended periods is bad for your health.

OTOH, painful feet are a very common problem. Risk factors for foot pain include advancing age, obesity, injudicious footwear, high-impact exercise and underlying medical conditions.

So, while you can do better, you can’t win.

:)

Just eat more salads, you’ll be fine. Drink more water, drink less wine. Don’t mope around the house while the sun doth shine. You want 2c worth, that was mine.

WRT bubbles situation -

>My own resources are more than adequate.
I’ll do it my way :)
.

You got it

Ian said:

WRT bubbles situation -

>My own resources are more than adequate.
I’ll do it my way :)
.

You got it

It is clear that resources abound enough to include fasting as a regime.

Just ordered some bathroom scales. They should be here by Monday and I’ll be able to properly assess the damage.

Bubblecar said:

Just ordered some bathroom scales. They should be here by Monday and I’ll be able to properly assess the damage.

Good you’re trying.

Dont leave them in the bathroom though, I’ve found the moisture stuffrs them after a while.

I find a good leather desk chair that has a rocking capability useful, get one with a really high back

some examples at officeworks

York High Back Plush Chair
Saville Leather Chair

While Im reading I can push up with my toes, etc but you can exercise while sitting down, that is my point

it stops me from getting sleepy while I read sitting down, getting up every 10 min, do some stretching exercises and aerobic exercises such has skipping

CrazyNeutrino said:

I find a good leather desk chair that has a rocking capability useful, get one with a really high back

some examples at officeworks

York High Back Plush Chair
Saville Leather Chair

While Im reading I can push up with my toes, etc but you can exercise while sitting down, that is my point

it stops me from getting sleepy while I read sitting down, getting up every 10 min, do some stretching exercises and aerobic exercises such has skipping

back in the 80’s this fitness theme took over the corporate world. So they had fitness instructors come around and distract the workers into some exercise… I guess that got too expensive, because that was soon replaced by corporate gym and/or memberships…

there is a company in Perth that offers neck massages to workers while they are sitting in their office space… don’t know how I’d feel about getting a massage while i was at work though…

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, you are what you eat. It is up to you to eat to live rather than eat to live.

I buggered that one up didn’t I?

Eat to live rather than live to eat.

I thought you’d gone all Zen on us.

The Rev Dodgson said:

roughbarked said:

roughbarked said:

Anyway, you are what you eat. It is up to you to eat to live rather than eat to live.

I buggered that one up didn’t I?

Eat to live rather than live to eat.

I thought you’d gone all Zen on us.

doesn’t surprise me. ;)

roughbarked said:

Eat to live rather than live to eat.

I was told that saying about work..

Arts said:

roughbarked said:

Eat to live rather than live to eat.

I was told that saying about work..

same dealie. :nods:

>>Just ordered some bathroom scales. They should be here by Monday and I’ll be able to properly assess the damage.

Ah, a reverse gravimeter, you’ll find hour to hour and day to day variations, I typically feel them when getting up from the couch, terrible anomalies in this area, seem to get worse with age.

Im falling into bad habits drinking too much good ground coffee

soda water can help Ive been placing soda water around my room, soda water or sparkling mineral water

it can be uplifting

CrazyNeutrino said:

it can be uplifting

Especially if you drink Willy Wonka’s Fizzy Lifting stuff.

transition said:

>>Just ordered some bathroom scales. They should be here by Monday and I’ll be able to properly assess the damage.

Ah, a reverse gravimeter, you’ll find hour to hour and day to day variations, I typically feel them when getting up from the couch, terrible anomalies in this area, seem to get worse with age.

I have little idea how much I weigh these days. It had better be under 150kg because the scales can only handle that much :)

Bubblecar said:

….of life is what I’m aiming for, as a respectable minimum, meaning I kick the bucket at around my mid-70s.

TBH at present you’re unlikely to get that.

If you’d like to share your BP and total and HDL cholesterol I can work out your risk of a cardiovascular event in the next decade…

OCDC said:

If you’d like to share your BP and total and HDL cholesterol I can work out your risk of a cardiovascular event in the next decade…

How old is the ‘car?

poikilotherm said:

OCDC said:

If you’d like to share your BP and total and HDL cholesterol I can work out your risk of a cardiovascular event in the next decade…

How old is the ‘car?

That’s for me and buffy and Weppy and Mumsy to know and you to wonder about.

OCDC said:

If you’d like to share your BP and total and HDL cholesterol I can work out your risk of a cardiovascular event in the next decade…

I don’t know them, I’ll have to ask the GP next time I’m there. I had blood tests recently but she said I wouldn’t have to worry about the results unless she contacted me about them, which she didn’t.

Bubblecar said:

OCDC said:

If you’d like to share your BP and total and HDL cholesterol I can work out your risk of a cardiovascular event in the next decade…

I don’t know them, I’ll have to ask the GP next time I’m there. I had blood tests recently but she said I wouldn’t have to worry about the results unless she contacted me about them, which she didn’t.

…but she was very pleased with my BP last time she took it.

poikilotherm said:

OCDC said:

If you’d like to share your BP and total and HDL cholesterol I can work out your risk of a cardiovascular event in the next decade…

How old is the ‘car?

54

Bubblecar said:

OCDC said:

If you’d like to share your BP and total and HDL cholesterol I can work out your risk of a cardiovascular event in the next decade…

I don’t know them, I’ll have to ask the GP next time I’m there. I had blood tests recently but she said I wouldn’t have to worry about the results unless she contacted me about them, which she didn’t.

Ask her to work out your Framingham risk, if you’re seriously wanting to improve your health. Working it out for myself some years ago gave me a bit of a shock – sure the 10 yr risk wasn’t that high, but I’d like to have lots of 10yrs ahead of me…

Mumsy’s is 10% with her current BP, and halves if she gets that controlled.

OCDC said:

Bubblecar said:

OCDC said:

If you’d like to share your BP and total and HDL cholesterol I can work out your risk of a cardiovascular event in the next decade…

I don’t know them, I’ll have to ask the GP next time I’m there. I had blood tests recently but she said I wouldn’t have to worry about the results unless she contacted me about them, which she didn’t.

Ask her to work out your Framingham risk, if you’re seriously wanting to improve your health. Working it out for myself some years ago gave me a bit of a shock – sure the 10 yr risk wasn’t that high, but I’d like to have lots of 10yrs ahead of me…

Mumsy’s is 10% with her current BP, and halves if she gets that controlled.

Not sure the Framingham risk calc was made for those under 35 (assuming you weren’t at the time of calc…).

poikilotherm said:

OCDC said:

Bubblecar said:

I don’t know them, I’ll have to ask the GP next time I’m there. I had blood tests recently but she said I wouldn’t have to worry about the results unless she contacted me about them, which she didn’t.

Ask her to work out your Framingham risk, if you’re seriously wanting to improve your health. Working it out for myself some years ago gave me a bit of a shock – sure the 10 yr risk wasn’t that high, but I’d like to have lots of 10yrs ahead of me…

Mumsy’s is 10% with her current BP, and halves if she gets that controlled.

Not sure the Framingham risk calc was made for those under 35 (assuming you weren’t at the time of calc…).

-n’t

poikilotherm said:

OCDC said:

Bubblecar said:

I don’t know them, I’ll have to ask the GP next time I’m there. I had blood tests recently but she said I wouldn’t have to worry about the results unless she contacted me about them, which she didn’t.

Ask her to work out your Framingham risk, if you’re seriously wanting to improve your health. Working it out for myself some years ago gave me a bit of a shock – sure the 10 yr risk wasn’t that high, but I’d like to have lots of 10yrs ahead of me…

Mumsy’s is 10% with her current BP, and halves if she gets that controlled.

Not sure the Framingham risk calc was made for those under 35 (assuming you weren’t at the time of calc…).

I still amn’t that old! I don’t expect it to give me a number with Star Trekkian accuracy…

Getting your light right can help with moods
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