Date: 28/07/2013 08:38:09
From: wookiemeister
ID: 356965
Subject: cloud city colonisation of solar system

In addition to Venus, floating cities have been proposed in science fiction on several other planets. For example, floating cities might also permit settlement of the outer three gas giants, as the gas giants lack solid surfaces. Jupiter is not promising for habitation due to its high gravity, escape velocity and radiation, but the solar system’s other gas giants (Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune) may be more practical.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Floating_city_(science_fiction)

Neptune

There’s really only one fact about Neptune’s gravity that’s any different from the gravity of any other planet, asteroid, comet, or star.

The acceleration of gravity at the surface of Neptune is 11.257 meters/second2 . That’s 14.8% greater than it is on the surface of Earth, and 6.94 times the value on the surface of the moon. Note: When dealing with gaseous bodies, the ‘surface’ is considered to be the depth at which the gas pressure is equal to Earth’s sea-level atmospheric pressure. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_some_facts_about_Neptune’s_gravity

Saturn

10.44 m/s²

Saturn, Gravity

Saturn is classified as a gas giant planet because the exterior is predominantly composed of gas and it lacks a definite surface, although it may have a solid core

Uranus

8.69 m/s²

Uranus, Gravity

The atmosphere of Uranus, like those of the larger gas giants, Jupiter and Saturn, is composed primarily of hydrogen and helium. At depth it is significantly enriched in volatiles (dubbed “ices”) such as water, ammonia and methane. The opposite is true for the upper atmosphere, which contains very few gases heavier than hydrogen and helium due to its low temperature. Uranus’s atmosphere is the coldest of all the planets, with its temperature reaching as low as 49 K.

Jupiter

not viable as radiation is over powering, microwaves

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Date: 28/07/2013 08:39:21
From: wookiemeister
ID: 356966
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

Venus has certain similarities to Earth which, were it not for the hostile conditions, might make colonization easier in many respects in comparison with other possible destinations. These similarities, and its proximity, have led Venus to be called Earth’s “sister planet”.

At present it has not been established whether the gravity of Mars, 0.38 times that of the Earth, would be sufficient to avoid bone decalcification and loss of muscle tone experienced by astronauts living in an environment of microgravity. In contrast, Venus is close in size and mass to the Earth, resulting in a similar surface gravity (0.904 g) which would likely be sufficient to prevent the health problems associated with weightlessness. Most other space exploration and colonization plans face concerns about the damaging effect of long-term exposure to fractional g or zero gravity on the human musculoskeletal system.

Venus’s relative proximity makes transportation and communications easier than for most other locations in the solar system. With current propulsion systems, launch windows to Venus occur every 584 days, compared to the 780 days for Mars. Flight time is also somewhat shorter; the Venus Express probe that arrived at Venus in April 2006 spent slightly over five months en route, compared to nearly six months for Mars Express. This is because at closest approach, Venus is 40 million km from Earth (approximated by perihelion of Earth minus aphelion of Venus) compared to 55 million km for Mars (approximated by perihelion of Mars minus aphelion of Earth) making Venus the closest planet to Earth.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colonization_of_Venus

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Date: 28/07/2013 15:37:32
From: wookiemeister
ID: 357211
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

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Date: 28/07/2013 17:18:50
From: gaghalfrunt
ID: 357273
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

And your point being?

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Date: 28/07/2013 17:23:59
From: gaghalfrunt
ID: 357278
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

“The acceleration of gravity at the surface of Neptune is 11.257 meters/second2 . That’s 14.8% greater than it is on the surface of Earth, and 6.94 times the value on the surface of the moon. Note: When dealing with gaseous bodies, the ‘surface’ is considered to be the depth at which the gas pressure is equal to Earth’s sea-level atmospheric pressure. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_some_facts_about_Neptune’s_gravity”

Is that spin gravity or regular gravity?

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Date: 28/07/2013 17:34:54
From: wookiemeister
ID: 357290
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

gaghalfrunt said:


“The acceleration of gravity at the surface of Neptune is 11.257 meters/second2 . That’s 14.8% greater than it is on the surface of Earth, and 6.94 times the value on the surface of the moon. Note: When dealing with gaseous bodies, the ‘surface’ is considered to be the depth at which the gas pressure is equal to Earth’s sea-level atmospheric pressure. http://wiki.answers.com/Q/What_are_some_facts_about_Neptune’s_gravity”

Is that spin gravity or regular gravity?


I would say they have taken everything into account

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Date: 28/07/2013 17:52:26
From: wookiemeister
ID: 357301
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

The entire Uranus system—planet, rings, and moon orbits—is tipped on its side compared to the rest of the planets. This unusual orientation may be the result of a cataclysmic collision suffered by Uranus as it was forming some 4.6 billion years ago. It also is responsible for the most extreme pattern of seasons on any planet. If you lived on a platform floating in Uranus’s atmosphere near the north pole, you’d have continuous daylight for half of each orbit, or 42 years. Then, after a very gradual sunset, you’d be plunged into a 42-year-long night.
http://www.jeffreybennett.com/virtual_tour/uranus.html

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Date: 28/07/2013 20:55:07
From: wookiemeister
ID: 357522
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

snap decision

its probably time for me to go here, its been a wild time.

I use this place a wall to throw a ball at the wall but i feel its really just time wasting now. its not my place to prise up the lino and show people that there’s an incongruence in what we believe and what we know – it just makes them angry and worry. i’ll leave peoples opinions to the professionals.

at any rate its one “troll” less

so with not much to say or do and a bow and flourish of the hand

this is wookiemeister signing off and bid you

adieu

PS

hey! whats the bet you’ll get more of the regular crowd here now?

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Date: 28/07/2013 21:06:55
From: Bubblecar
ID: 357526
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

>its probably time for me to go here, its been a wild time.

Don’t be daft, you’re one of the crew.

For better or worse ;)

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Date: 28/07/2013 21:35:19
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 357548
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

wookiemeister said:

its probably time for me to go here, its been a wild time.

Take two apricot seeds orally and see me in the morning.

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Date: 29/07/2013 04:42:13
From: kii
ID: 357792
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

wookiemeister said:


snap decision

its probably time for me to go here, its been a wild time.

I use this place a wall to throw a ball at the wall but i feel its really just time wasting now. its not my place to prise up the lino and show people that there’s an incongruence in what we believe and what we know – it just makes them angry and worry. i’ll leave peoples opinions to the professionals.

at any rate its one “troll” less

so with not much to say or do and a bow and flourish of the hand

this is wookiemeister signing off and bid you

adieu

PS

hey! whats the bet you’ll get more of the regular crowd here now?

Hey, I hardly ever (like – never) read any of your stuff, but I do like the visual of you throwing a ball up against the wall and prying up the lino.

Farewell and what’s PWM going to do w/o you?

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Date: 29/07/2013 05:35:52
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 357805
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

I was driving somewhere in the outback

and saw what I think is one of wookiemeister’s inventions

http://i.imgur.com/nHLQwXI.jpg

then I saw about a hundred of them wearing the same outfit

I dont know what they were up to or where they were going

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Date: 29/07/2013 05:44:47
From: roughbarked
ID: 357809
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

CrazyNeutrino said:

I was driving somewhere in the outback

and saw what I think is one of wookiemeister’s inventions

http://i.imgur.com/nHLQwXI.jpg

then I saw about a hundred of them wearing the same outfit

I dont know what they were up to or where they were going

evicting the kangaroo tenants from their space.

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Date: 19/12/2014 19:50:19
From: wookiemeister
ID: 649173
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

bonjour

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Date: 19/12/2014 20:23:12
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 649188
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

gaghalfrunt said:


And your point being?

Why does he need a point?

All that stuff is quite interesting.

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Date: 19/12/2014 20:46:43
From: wookiemeister
ID: 649191
Subject: re: cloud city colonisation of solar system

The Rev Dodgson said:


gaghalfrunt said:

And your point being?

Why does he need a point?

All that stuff is quite interesting.


fairly old thread from last year , I’m sure I’ve mentioned It before

the extension of the idea is to colonise other planets like gas giants if its possible by using the same idea

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