Date: 3/08/2013 18:12:40
From: Michael V
ID: 361099
Subject: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

I’m hoping someone might be able to help me find the original reseach behind the Smithsonian article, which seems to be too good to be true. The Claim is like “Olive oil is so good for you that even smelling it will make you healthy”.

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I’ve been looking at this:

http://blogs.smithsonianmag.com/ideas/2013/04/10-new-things-we-know-about-food-and-diets/

and trying to find the original research. Smithsonian references this:

http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/is-the-secret-to-olive-oil-in-its-scent/

(not a well respected scientific journal). The New York Times references this:

http://www.dfal.de/2/home/hedonic-value.html

which has no references to any research like that, as far as I can tell. (I think the German mob is real.)

NYT also use the name “Dr. Malte Rubach” which in turn (through Go-ogle) references back to NYTimes and other similar articles in other blogs, newspapers olive oil sites and well-being magazines.

I suspect a rat, but would like to assess the original research for myself. I haven’t been able to find it.

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Date: 3/08/2013 18:19:06
From: buffy
ID: 361103
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

Haven’t yet found the research paper, but I did find this:

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/cameron-alborzian/health-research_b_3015957.html

Related. But not what we are looking for.

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Date: 3/08/2013 18:22:07
From: dv
ID: 361106
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

I don’t know about olive oil odour but health research definitely exists!

d“thinks reading the subject line is sufficient“v

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Date: 3/08/2013 18:28:04
From: buffy
ID: 361111
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

I have to give up. It goes round and round in circles, never finding anything published. I’ve searched on Malte Rubach, and on olive oil odour/appetite and other combinations.

Maybe Alex might be able to search better.

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Date: 3/08/2013 18:28:32
From: Michael V
ID: 361112
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

dv said:


I don’t know about olive oil odour but health research definitely exists!

d“thinks reading the subject line is sufficient“v


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Yeah, goodonya!

I was trying to keep the title short, whilst still retaining some clue about the subject. “Help me find a specific piece of research, please.” would be more accurate but less informing.

Your suggestion for an appropriate title for this thread?

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Date: 3/08/2013 18:29:37
From: Michael V
ID: 361113
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

buffy said:

I have to give up. It goes round and round in circles, never finding anything published. I’ve searched on Malte Rubach, and on olive oil odour/appetite and other combinations.

Maybe Alex might be able to search better.

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Thanks for trying, buffy. :)

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Date: 3/08/2013 18:29:52
From: buffy
ID: 361114
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

And most annoyingly, one of my favourite health search sites (Health on the Net) seems to have died. The website comes up, but then it goes 404. It’s been like that for a few days now.

:(

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Date: 3/08/2013 18:33:16
From: dv
ID: 361119
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

Your suggestion for an appropriate title for this thread?

The current title is fine. I was making a silly joke. Sorry I can’t help with this matter in any way.

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Date: 3/08/2013 18:35:35
From: Michael V
ID: 361122
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

:)~P

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Date: 3/08/2013 18:37:40
From: roughbarked
ID: 361125
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

dv said:


Your suggestion for an appropriate title for this thread?

The current title is fine. I was making a silly joke. Sorry I can’t help with this matter in any way.

I know nothing of any research but I can surmise that from the title, perhaps aromatherapy and moisturiser could be linked in the search for any possible research?

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Date: 4/08/2013 22:04:00
From: OCDC
ID: 362110
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

Michael V said:


http://well.blogs.nytimes.com/2013/03/29/is-the-secret-to-olive-oil-in-its-scent/

The ‘reference’ in that page isn’t about the odour though – it’s about adding olive oil (vs other fats) to yoghurt.

Can’t find anything about it on UpToDate.

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Date: 4/08/2013 22:04:57
From: OCDC
ID: 362112
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

“You can’t just take an 8-ounce glass of cola and add a serving of Metamucil and create a health food,” Dr. Ludwig said. “Even though the fructose-to-fiber ratio might be the same as an apple, the biological effects would be much different.”

Why not?!?

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Date: 4/08/2013 22:07:36
From: roughbarked
ID: 362116
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

OCDC said:


“You can’t just take an 8-ounce glass of cola and add a serving of Metamucil and create a health food,” Dr. Ludwig said. “Even though the fructose-to-fiber ratio might be the same as an apple, the biological effects would be much different.”

Why not?!?

there is more about the universe than physics.

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Date: 4/08/2013 22:36:44
From: buffy
ID: 362137
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

You’ve let us down Alex……I was hoping you could find something that I couldn’t.

I skimmed through the published stuff from the research place, but I couldn’t find anything referring to the olive oil odour research either.

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Date: 4/08/2013 22:39:15
From: roughbarked
ID: 362140
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

buffy said:

You’ve let us down Alex……I was hoping you could find something that I couldn’t.

I skimmed through the published stuff from the research place, but I couldn’t find anything referring to the olive oil odour research either.

that’s because there probably isn’t any. Yes, olive oil smells not too bad and the smell is related to lots of good food.. what could be wrong with that?

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Date: 4/08/2013 22:42:50
From: roughbarked
ID: 362142
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

roughbarked said:


buffy said:

You’ve let us down Alex……I was hoping you could find something that I couldn’t.

I skimmed through the published stuff from the research place, but I couldn’t find anything referring to the olive oil odour research either.

that’s because there probably isn’t any. Yes, olive oil smells not too bad and the smell is related to lots of good food.. what could be wrong with that?

I actually pick green olives and make scachatti(regional dialects differ). Smash the olive and pull the seed out. At the end of the process you are left with basically a dry-ish shell of an olive. I add a tad of olive oil to make them more tasty.

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Date: 4/08/2013 23:23:01
From: morrie
ID: 362163
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

I looked in Deepdyve. There are a few papers by Malte Rubach but they are in relation to the effect of coffee on gastric acid secretion. Nothing on Olive Oil. There are a few papers on the odour components of olive oil and it is a complex mixture of 100 components and it varies not only with variety but with the food matrix. Some of the components are things like octene and octenal etc, which are common to many foods.

His research seems to be in the right area, but the paper doesn’t show up.

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Date: 4/08/2013 23:24:55
From: roughbarked
ID: 362166
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

morrie said:


I looked in Deepdyve. There are a few papers by Malte Rubach but they are in relation to the effect of coffee on gastric acid secretion. Nothing on Olive Oil. There are a few papers on the odour components of olive oil and it is a complex mixture of 100 components and it varies not only with variety but with the food matrix. Some of the components are things like octene and octenal etc, which are common to many foods.

His research seems to be in the right area, but the paper doesn’t show up.

thanks.. but olive oil doesn’t smell bad so there is still that point.

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Date: 4/08/2013 23:36:52
From: morrie
ID: 362173
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

Head of the research group on chemoreception of food ingredients; Dr Krautwurst.
snort

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Date: 4/08/2013 23:41:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 362176
Subject: re: Olive Oil odour and health research. Does it exist?

morrie said:


Head of the research group on chemoreception of food ingredients; Dr Krautwurst.
snort

You are permitted that indiscretion. ;)

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