Gina DeJesus, one of the three women supposedly held in captivity for ten years (9 for her), forgot what the layout of her own house was and asked for a tour when she got home, she also forgot how to speak Spanish.

As I believe the whole story to be a hoax, I think that the Gina presented to us is not the same person as who went missing, I have started a blog on the hoax, its a work in progress so still early days:

http://anywho.simplesite.com/

There is a lot of psychology in this hoax, is it possible for one man to hold three women captive for so long in a crappy suburban house with no soundproofing, and while he holds down a full time job? And is it possible for Gina to forget her house and Spanish?

I know a lot of you are going to complain that psychology isn’t really science, and fair enough, but the subject matter is still interesting.

• I know a lot of you are going to complain that psychology isn’t really science, and fair enough, but the subject matter is still interesting.

What is interesting is the psychology of someone who sees conspiracy and hoaxes around every corner…

Actually, scratch that, it isn’t actually that interesting…

And who exactly, perpetrated this hoax and more importantly, why the fuck?

Everything’s a conspiracy *taps nose *

Anywho said:

Gina DeJesus, one of the three women supposedly held in captivity for ten years (9 for her), forgot what the layout of her own house was and asked for a tour when she got home, she also forgot how to speak Spanish.

As I believe the whole story to be a hoax, I think that the Gina presented to us is not the same person as who went missing, I have started a blog on the hoax, its a work in progress so still early days:

http://anywho.simplesite.com/

There is a lot of psychology in this hoax, is it possible for one man to hold three women captive for so long in a crappy suburban house with no soundproofing, and while he holds down a full time job? And is it possible for Gina to forget her house and Spanish?

I know a lot of you are going to complain that psychology isn’t really science, and fair enough, but the subject matter is still interesting.

Stop it

Stop it right now

>> but the subject matter is still interesting.

I disagree

Fnerkin numpty thread, someone off their clozapine?

Skeptic Pete said:

And who exactly, perpetrated this hoax and more importantly, why the fuck?

There is no obvious agenda, but this story saturated he news for several days, perhaps a distraction was deemed necessary.

I once saw a doco on when Fugimori was in power in Peru, when they wanted to make ‘disappearances’ happen the complicit media would report a sighting of the virgin Mary, this story would completely dominate the news for days while they rounded up trade unionists and other dissenters. While I arm not suggesting disappearances occurred on this occassion, i have no idea why they ran this fake story, the Peru example shows us that using fake media stories to distract the public has a historical precedence.

They may have a store of these ‘incredible’ type media stories just waiting to be pulled out of their arses and then force fed to the public through saturation coverage whenever a distraction is needed.

I saw the doco on Peru when I was quite naive about the deception in our own media, I was quite bemused and thought they could never get away with such nonsense in the Western media, but I now think we are as gullible and easily controlled by our media as any society ever has been, it’s like watching a soap opera sometimes.

>>I have started a blog on the hoax

oh goodie

• when they wanted to make ‘disappearances’ happen the complicit media would report a sighting of the virgin Mary

If the media was complicit, why did they just not report on the disappearances?

• I have started a blog on the hoax

I started a blog, which started the whole world crying,
But I didn’t see that the blog was on me, oh no.

I started to cry, which started the whole world laughing,
Oh, if I’d only seen that the blog was on me.

I looked at the skies, running my hands over my eyes,
And I fell out of bed, hurting my head from things that I’d said.

Til I finally died, which started the whole world living,
Oh, if I’d only seen that the blog was on me.

I looked at the skies, running my hands over my eyes,
And I fell out of bed, hurting my head from things that I’d said.

Til I finally died, which started the whole world living,
Oh, if I’d only seen that the blog was one me.

furious said:

• when they wanted to make ‘disappearances’ happen the complicit media would report a sighting of the virgin Mary

If the media was complicit, why did they just not report on the disappearances?

I wondered that myself, I don’t know why they needed a cover, perhaps to provide an excuse to the few honest reporters or others as to why the media was ignoring important events.
I would think that one would have o know the inner workings of the media to answer that.

Okay, so we don’t know who really did it, we don’t know why they did it, we don’t know how they did it, we may not even know when they did it…

Neophyte said:

Okay, so we don’t know who really did it, we don’t know why they did it, we don’t know how they did it, we may not even know when they did it…

Or if they in fact, did do it.

I’m sorry, but schadenfreude is the bestenfreude

Neophyte said:

Okay, so we don’t know who really did it, we don’t know why they did it, we don’t know how they did it, we may not even know when they did it…

Who, why, and how, are not necessary to determining the whole story is a hoax.

Knowing the answer to those specific questions would require an insiders knowledge of the hoax, although with regards to the “who” question we could name some of the players.

If the papers ran a story on the roo-boy would you believe it just because you don’t know who ordered the story, or why? Sometimes you just have to use your common sense and intelligence to evaluate the veracity of a media story, and this kidnapping hoax doesn’t even come close to being realistic.

The house has laughable fortifications, the women do not claim to have been gagged or even chained most of the time, they claim to have been locked in their rooms but when police arrived that wasn’t even true, they just walked out of their rooms.

Do you think you could hold even one woman captive in a suburban house with no soundproofing and then head off to work every day without her screaming out? Ridiculous, and It would be orders of magnitude harder with three women.

This hoax was certainly set up to be the three brothers who held the women, there was a trail of evidence in place for all three, the three of them were originally arrested and the media was told for two days that they were going to be charged, but something obviously went wrong and they had to run with just one kidnapper making the story as farcical as the roo-boy.

The hoax script can even break down and anyone who questions it is a nutter?