Date: 21/08/2013 17:38:58
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 374282
Subject: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Far Out: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space
http://www.space.com/22447-egyptian-beads-made-from-meteorites.html

Ancient Egyptian beads found in a 5,000-year-old tomb were made from iron meteorites that fell to Earth from space, according to a new study. The beads, which are the oldest known iron artifacts in the world, were crafted roughly 2,000 years before Egypt’s Iron Age.

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Date: 21/08/2013 17:47:40
From: Michael V
ID: 374288
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

See also:

http://www.abc.net.au/science/articles/2013/08/20/3829786.htm?site=science&topic=latest

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Date: 21/08/2013 17:53:45
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 374291
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

It’s long been known that The Ancients used iron before the advent of iron smelting, but I guess it’s nice to verify that various ancient artifacts are, in fact, meteoric in origin.

Before iron smelting, iron was rarer than gold (which is generally found in the metallic state), and considerably more expensive.

Wiki says:


Meteoric iron

Cultural and historical usage

Before the advent of iron smelting, meteoric iron was the only source of iron metal apart from minor amounts of telluric iron. Meteoric iron was already used before the beginning of the iron age to make cultural objects, tools and weapons.

In ancient Egypt an iron metal pearl was found in a graveyard near Gerzeh that contained 7.5% Ni. A dagger made from meteoric iron was found in the tomb of Tutankhamun.

The Inuit used parts of the Cape York meteorite.

Fragments from Gibeon were used for centuries by Nama people. There are also reports of their use for manufacture of various items in Tibet (see Thokcha), including the Iron Man, a statue of Vaiśravaṇa carved from an iron meteorite.

In 1000 CE, a Tibetan Buddhist statue, the Iron Man, was likely carved from an ataxite meteorite. It might even be made from a fragment of the Chinga meteorite.

Even after the invention of smelting, meteoric iron was sometimes used where this technology was not available or metal was scarce. A piece of the Cranbourne meteorite was made into a horseshoe around 1854.

Today meteoritic iron is used in niche jewellery and knife production, but most of it is used for research, educational or collecting purposes.


The reference for the Tutankhamun dagger is from 1973.

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Date: 21/08/2013 17:57:16
From: Geoff D
ID: 374295
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

In Java, they used nickel-iron meteorites to work the ‘figures’ into kris blades. Most of the blade would be smelted iron, but the fancy bits were nickel-iron.

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Date: 21/08/2013 17:57:56
From: Stealth
ID: 374296
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Before iron smelting, iron was rarer than gold (which is generally found in the metallic state), and considerably more expensive.
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You will have Gina Rinehart frothing at mouth with that sort of of talk …

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Date: 21/08/2013 18:01:19
From: transition
ID: 374300
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

That’s quite interesting.

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Date: 21/08/2013 18:03:53
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 374303
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Stealth said:


Before iron smelting, iron was rarer than gold (which is generally found in the metallic state), and considerably more expensive.
———————-
You will have Gina Rinehart frothing at mouth with that sort of of talk …

she needs motivation?

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Date: 21/08/2013 18:04:07
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 374304
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Stealth said:


Before iron smelting, iron was rarer than gold (which is generally found in the metallic state), and considerably more expensive.
———————-
You will have Gina Rinehart frothing at mouth with that sort of of talk …

Because turning iron into gold would be a mug’s game in ancient Egypt?

Gold’s pretty, and easy to work, but it’s mostly useless for making traditional tools and weapons.

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Date: 21/08/2013 19:55:21
From: gaghalfrunt
ID: 374393
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Acient egyptians came from outer space according to Eric Von daniken. (whatever became of him?)

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Date: 21/08/2013 19:56:43
From: Geoff D
ID: 374397
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

gaghalfrunt said:


Acient egyptians came from outer space according to Eric Von daniken. (whatever became of him?)

Died of embarrasment

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Date: 21/08/2013 19:59:01
From: gaghalfrunt
ID: 374409
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Geoff D said:


gaghalfrunt said:

Acient egyptians came from outer space according to Eric Von daniken. (whatever became of him?)

Died of embarrasment

I doubt if making millions out of bullshit would embarrass too many people.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:02:30
From: Geoff D
ID: 374413
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

gaghalfrunt said:


Geoff D said:

gaghalfrunt said:

Acient egyptians came from outer space according to Eric Von daniken. (whatever became of him?)

Died of embarrasment

I doubt if making millions out of bullshit would embarrass too many people.

Yelling “Yeah, but I’m a rich fuckwit!” in response to insults would wear thin after a while, I reckon.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:02:31
From: Skunkworks
ID: 374414
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

gaghalfrunt said:


Geoff D said:

gaghalfrunt said:

Acient egyptians came from outer space according to Eric Von daniken. (whatever became of him?)

Died of embarrasment

I doubt if making millions out of bullshit would embarrass too many people.

Carlos Castaneda and Lobsang Rama spring to mind.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:03:53
From: Boris
ID: 374418
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Carlos Castaned

didn’t all the hippies rave about his books.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:06:39
From: Geoff D
ID: 374420
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Skunkworks said:


gaghalfrunt said:

Geoff D said:

Died of embarrasment

I doubt if making millions out of bullshit would embarrass too many people.

Carlos Castaneda and Lobsang Rama spring to mind.

Wasn’t Lobsang Rampa some suburban pommy git?

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:07:23
From: Skunkworks
ID: 374422
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Boris said:


Carlos Castaned

didn’t all the hippies rave about his books.

I read all his gear and thought it real. Not so much the reality of the coyote, I just assumed he was drug fucked. But I thought he was a student anthropologist studying Indian spirituality.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:07:56
From: Skunkworks
ID: 374423
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

Geoff D said:

Wasn’t Lobsang Rampa some suburban pommy git?

Fat pommy plumber.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:12:20
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 374427
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

He ain’t dead yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken

According to von Däniken, subsequent books in his series have been translated into 32 languages and together have sold more than 63 million copies.

Jungfrau Park located near Interlaken, Switzerland was opened as the Mystery Park in 2003. Designed by von Däniken, it explored several great “mysteries” of the world.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:13:30
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 374428
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobsang_Rampa

Cyril Henry Hoskin (8 April 1910 – 25 January 1981), more popularly known as Tuesday Lobsang Rampa, was a writer who claimed to have been a lama in Tibet before spending the second part of his life in the body of a British man. Hoskin described himself as the “host” of Tuesday Lobsang Rampa. The name Tuesday relates to a claim in The Third Eye that Tibetans are named after the day of the week on which they were born.
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Date: 21/08/2013 20:16:21
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 374429
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

One of my grandmothers was a Lobsang Rampa fan.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobsang_Rampa#Controversy_over_authorship_of_The_Third_Eye


Explorer and Tibetologist Heinrich Harrer was unconvinced about the book’s origins and hired a private detective from Liverpool named Clifford Burgess to investigate Rampa. The findings of Burgess’ investigation were published in the Daily Mail in February 1958. It was reported that the author of the book was a man named Cyril Henry Hoskin, who had been born in Plympton, Devon, in 1910 and was the son of a plumber. Hoskin had never been to Tibet and spoke no Tibetan. In 1948, he had legally changed his name to Carl Kuon Suo before adopting the name Lobsang Rampa. An obituary of Fra Andrew Bertie, Grand Master of the Sovereign Military Order of Malta, claims that he was involved in unmasking Lobsang Rampa as a West Country plumber.

Rampa was tracked by the British press to Howth, Ireland, and confronted with these allegations. He did not deny that he had been born as Cyril Hoskin, but claimed that his body was now occupied by the spirit of Lobsang Rampa. According to the account given in his third book, The Rampa Story, he had fallen out of a fir tree in his garden in Thames Ditton, Surrey, while attempting to photograph an owl. He was concussed and on regaining his senses had seen a Buddhist monk in saffron robes walking towards him. The monk spoke to him about Rampa taking over his body and Hoskin agreed, saying that he was dissatisfied with his current life. When Rampa’s original body became too worn out to continue, he took over Hoskin’s body in a process of transmigration of the soul.

Rampa maintained for the rest of his life that The Third Eye was a true story. In the foreword to the 1964 edition of the book, he wrote:

I am Tuesday Lobsang Rampa, that is my only name, now my legal name, and I answer to no other.
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Date: 21/08/2013 20:16:35
From: gaghalfrunt
ID: 374430
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

PM 2Ring said:


He ain’t dead yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken

According to von Däniken, subsequent books in his series have been translated into 32 languages and together have sold more than 63 million copies.

Jungfrau Park located near Interlaken, Switzerland was opened as the Mystery Park in 2003. Designed by von Däniken, it explored several great “mysteries” of the world.


Good on him. Eric is obviously quiet familliar with the “fool and his money” mantra. And takes full advantage of it.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:21:42
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 374435
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

gaghalfrunt said:


PM 2Ring said:

He ain’t dead yet.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erich_von_D%C3%A4niken

According to von Däniken, subsequent books in his series have been translated into 32 languages and together have sold more than 63 million copies.

Jungfrau Park located near Interlaken, Switzerland was opened as the Mystery Park in 2003. Designed by von Däniken, it explored several great “mysteries” of the world.


Good on him. Eric is obviously quiet familliar with the “fool and his money” mantra. And takes full advantage of it.

like Scientology leaders

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:23:02
From: Boris
ID: 374438
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

then you had gurdijeff and ouspensky.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:26:12
From: Skunkworks
ID: 374439
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

CrazyNeutrino said:

like Scientology leaders

I have a brilliant book on Scientology well researched. They actively target actors in case they get famous but also because a lot of the affirmation stuff they do is what actors do so it is a natural fit.

John Travolta was recruited before Welcome Back Kotter days and his famous break came when he was promoted to top theta or whatever. The story of the aliens and volcanos he immediately thought was ludicrous bullshit and this was back pre internet days so it would have come as a genuine surprise to him.

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Date: 21/08/2013 20:38:55
From: PM 2Ring
ID: 374442
Subject: re: Ancient Egyptian Jewelry Came from Outer Space

I read the first couple of Castenada books in my late teens.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carlos_Castenada

Carlos Arana Castaneda (December 25, 1925 – April 27, 1998) was a Peruvian-American author and student of anthropology.

Starting with The Teachings of Don Juan in 1968, Castaneda wrote a series of books that describe his alleged training in shamanism. The books, narrated in the first person, relate his supposed experiences under the tutelage of a Yaqui “Man of Knowledge” named Don Juan Matus. His 11 books have sold more than 28 million copies in 17 languages. Critics have suggested that they are works of fiction; supporters claim the books are either true or at least valuable works of philosophy and descriptions of practices which enable an increased awareness.

Castaneda withdrew from public view in 1973 to work further on his inner development, living in a large house with three women (“Fellow Travellers of Awareness”) who were ready to cut their ties to family and changed their names.

[…]

Companions

After Castaneda stepped away from public view in 1973, he bought a large house in Los Angeles which he shared with three of his female companions. The women broke off relationships with friends and family when they joined Castaneda’s group. They also refused to be photographed and took new names: Regina Thal became Florinda Donner-Grau, Maryann Simko became Taisha Abelar and Kathleen Pohlman became Carol Tiggs.

In the early 1990s, Florinda Donner-Grau and Taisha Abelar published two books purporting to describe their experiences with Don Juan and his party. Together with Carol Tiggs, they appeared and sometimes lectured at many of the Tensegrity workshops that began in July 1993, and Donner-Grau and Abelar appeared at book signings and gave occasional lectures and radio interviews as well.

Shortly after Castaneda died, Donner-Grau and Abelar disappeared, along with Patricia Partin. Amalia Marquez (also known as Talia Bey) and Tensegrity instructor Kylie Lundahl had their phones disconnected and also disappeared. On August 2, 1998, Carol spoke at a workshop in Ontario. The remains of Partin, also referred to by Castaneda as Nury Alexander and/or Claude, were found in 2003 near where her abandoned car had been discovered a few weeks after Castaneda’s death in 1998, on the edge of Death Valley. Her remains were in a condition requiring DNA identification, which was made in 2006.

Because the women had cut all ties with family and friends, it was some time before people noticed they were missing. There has been no official investigation into the disappearances of Donner-Grau, Simko and Lundahl. Luis Marquez, the brother of Talia Bey, went to police in 1999 over his sister’s disappearance, but was unable to convince them that her disappearance merited investigation. Their opinion changed in 2006 after the remains of Patricia Partin were identified, and the LAPD finally added Bey to their missing person database.

I didn’t know that stuff about his companions. Creepy!

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