Date: 27/06/2008 19:07:26
From: veg gardener
ID: 20424
Subject: veggie plantings

trying to work out my spring / summer plantings grouped most of them got a few more i need help with.

*carrot *corn *sunflower

the goups so far
1 *radishes *broccli *cauiflower

2 *Tomato *capsucim *chilli *eggplant *potato

3

*Zucchini

4

5 *beans

And then herbs

Also this isnt all the veggies i am going to plant i still have to log in to the seeds companies website to find the more as it is down i can do it till it is back up.

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Date: 27/06/2008 19:12:14
From: veg gardener
ID: 20425
Subject: re: veggie plantings

i only have 2 out of 7 beds left for these plants, theses holidays i am going to try and get the free beds set up and ready for spring.

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Date: 27/06/2008 20:53:08
From: aquarium
ID: 20453
Subject: re: veggie plantings

hey VG,
you could grow the cucumbers and/or pumpkins and/or beans up the corn. corn being planted earlier than the others, it will provide good support. the corn will do especially well if grown with beans or even peas, as the legumes will provide the hungry corn plants with usable nitrogen. i plan to grow a small patch of corn with beans. saves space too.

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Date: 27/06/2008 20:56:34
From: veg gardener
ID: 20456
Subject: re: veggie plantings

aquarium said:


hey VG,
you could grow the cucumbers and/or pumpkins and/or beans up the corn. corn being planted earlier than the others, it will provide good support. the corn will do especially well if grown with beans or even peas, as the legumes will provide the hungry corn plants with usable nitrogen. i plan to grow a small patch of corn with beans. saves space too.

Hey Aq,
what about sunflowers plant them with the corn as well?

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Date: 27/06/2008 21:09:45
From: veg gardener
ID: 20462
Subject: re: veggie plantings

so i have left to work out. *Carrot *Silverbeet *pak choi

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Date: 27/06/2008 22:06:23
From: aquarium
ID: 20468
Subject: re: veggie plantings

i reckon these go in same bed as lettuce. can’t imagine a family going through a whole garden bed of lettuce, with all that lettuce maturing quickly and going to seed in warm weather. so i think the main (permanent for season) planting in bed 4 should be the silverbeet, with lettuce & bokchoy & carrots sown and harvested regularly. the silverbeet just harvest the outside leaves as needed.

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Date: 28/06/2008 08:47:23
From: veg gardener
ID: 20483
Subject: re: veggie plantings

i wont be planting where the rhurbarb is ever again ill just put some herbs in there. so means i have 6 beds and only 5 in use this summer so what could i plant as a chook fodder in that bed?

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Date: 28/06/2008 11:46:42
From: Yeehah
ID: 20491
Subject: re: veggie plantings

veg gardener said:


i wont be planting where the rhurbarb is ever again ill just put some herbs in there. so means i have 6 beds and only 5 in use this summer so what could i plant as a chook fodder in that bed?

Hmm, a thought just occurred to me …. asparagus … ???

Both rhubarb and asparagus like lots of fertiliser, and they’re perennials, dying down in winter. Then you could interplant with herbs like parsley – parsley, for example, will grow from seeds one year, go to seed the next year, but the seed can’t be stored as it’s not viable for long. The best way to get new parsley plants is to let them go to seed and drop their seeds directly into fertile soil.

So perhaps you could plan for a bed of perennial vegies, starting with the rhubarb you already have, a couple of asparagus corms, plant herbs around. In your climate you could have (say) thyme, oregano, sage & parsley. The thyme and oregano grow like mad and would form a weed-suppressing mat in and around the perennials, then cut them back in winter. The herbs are great “vitamin pills” for chooks too!

But here’s the key question: do you eat asparagus at your house?

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Date: 28/06/2008 11:48:02
From: veg gardener
ID: 20492
Subject: re: veggie plantings

Yeehah said:


veg gardener said:

i wont be planting where the rhurbarb is ever again ill just put some herbs in there. so means i have 6 beds and only 5 in use this summer so what could i plant as a chook fodder in that bed?

Hmm, a thought just occurred to me …. asparagus … ???

Both rhubarb and asparagus like lots of fertiliser, and they’re perennials, dying down in winter. Then you could interplant with herbs like parsley – parsley, for example, will grow from seeds one year, go to seed the next year, but the seed can’t be stored as it’s not viable for long. The best way to get new parsley plants is to let them go to seed and drop their seeds directly into fertile soil.

So perhaps you could plan for a bed of perennial vegies, starting with the rhubarb you already have, a couple of asparagus corms, plant herbs around. In your climate you could have (say) thyme, oregano, sage & parsley. The thyme and oregano grow like mad and would form a weed-suppressing mat in and around the perennials, then cut them back in winter. The herbs are great “vitamin pills” for chooks too!

But here’s the key question: do you eat asparagus at your house?

mum does.

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Date: 28/06/2008 12:00:36
From: Yeehah
ID: 20493
Subject: re: veggie plantings

veg gardener said:


Yeehah said:

But here’s the key question: do you eat asparagus at your house?

mum does.

Might be time to do a bit of research??

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Date: 28/06/2008 12:01:49
From: veg gardener
ID: 20494
Subject: re: veggie plantings

Yeehah said:


veg gardener said:

Yeehah said:

But here’s the key question: do you eat asparagus at your house?

mum does.

Might be time to do a bit of research??

already have. i am thinking about getting a Heated Propagation mat, so i will be able to start my summer seeds really early.

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Date: 28/06/2008 18:28:43
From: Longy
ID: 20519
Subject: re: veggie plantings

thinking about getting a Heated Propagation mat
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More power usage VG. I thought you had gone green and were into recycling etc.
Or was that just a passing phase?

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Date: 28/06/2008 18:31:41
From: veg gardener
ID: 20521
Subject: re: veggie plantings

Longy said:


thinking about getting a Heated Propagation mat
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More power usage VG. I thought you had gone green and were into recycling etc.
Or was that just a passing phase?

nope, i am trying to be more substainable. and more in to recycling not really going green.

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Date: 28/06/2008 18:31:41
From: veg gardener
ID: 20522
Subject: re: veggie plantings

Longy said:


thinking about getting a Heated Propagation mat
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++
More power usage VG. I thought you had gone green and were into recycling etc.
Or was that just a passing phase?

nope, i am trying to be more substainable. and more in to recycling not really going green.

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Date: 28/06/2008 18:59:35
From: Longy
ID: 20526
Subject: re: veggie plantings

i am trying to be more substainable.
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OK. So is buying more energy using equipment more sustainable?
It’s a bit like the paper shredder.
What is to be achieved?

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Date: 28/06/2008 19:01:20
From: veg gardener
ID: 20527
Subject: re: veggie plantings

Longy said:

i am trying to be more substainable.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OK. So is buying more energy using equipment more sustainable?
It’s a bit like the paper shredder.
What is to be achieved?

early seedlings.

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Date: 28/06/2008 19:04:32
From: Longy
ID: 20528
Subject: re: veggie plantings

veg gardener said:


Longy said:
i am trying to be more substainable.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OK. So is buying more energy using equipment more sustainable?
It’s a bit like the paper shredder.
What is to be achieved?

early seedlings.

OK. Seeds don’t require light to germinate. So you couls always move the seed trays into a warmer area, like on top of the hot water system, and achieve the same thing.

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Date: 28/06/2008 19:05:28
From: veg gardener
ID: 20530
Subject: re: veggie plantings

Longy said:


veg gardener said:

Longy said:
i am trying to be more substainable.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OK. So is buying more energy using equipment more sustainable?
It’s a bit like the paper shredder.
What is to be achieved?

early seedlings.

OK. Seeds don’t require light to germinate. So you couls always move the seed trays into a warmer area, like on top of the hot water system, and achieve the same thing.

good idea ill put the on the water heater and start them soon.

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Date: 28/06/2008 19:05:28
From: veg gardener
ID: 20531
Subject: re: veggie plantings

Longy said:


veg gardener said:

Longy said:
i am trying to be more substainable.
+++++++++++++++++++++++++++
OK. So is buying more energy using equipment more sustainable?
It’s a bit like the paper shredder.
What is to be achieved?

early seedlings.

OK. Seeds don’t require light to germinate. So you couls always move the seed trays into a warmer area, like on top of the hot water system, and achieve the same thing.

good idea ill put the on the water heater and start them soon.

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Date: 28/06/2008 19:07:46
From: Longy
ID: 20532
Subject: re: veggie plantings

good idea ill put the on the water heater and start them soon.

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OK. Good stuff. Now, what will you do with them once they germinate? They’ll need sunlight and protection from cold. Remember i showed you what a coldframe is? That’s where they are useful. Even if you have a heated propagation mat, you still need somewhere to grow the seedlings afterward right!

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Date: 28/06/2008 19:09:10
From: veg gardener
ID: 20534
Subject: re: veggie plantings

Longy said:


good idea ill put the on the water heater and start them soon.

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OK. Good stuff. Now, what will you do with them once they germinate? They’ll need sunlight and protection from cold. Remember i showed you what a coldframe is? That’s where they are useful. Even if you have a heated propagation mat, you still need somewhere to grow the seedlings afterward right!

i have the cubbyhouse which has plastic around the outside or i can find some ShadeCloth we have some of that would that be any good, just have to get dads permission to use it if it will be any good.

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Date: 28/06/2008 19:13:50
From: Longy
ID: 20536
Subject: re: veggie plantings

i can find some ShadeCloth we have some of that would that be any good,
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Mate, best thing is to get organised. You’re jumping from one idea to another like a 3 legged grasshopper..
A coldframe is something you can build.
You need seedlings to put in it. SO don’t panic.
Get the seeds sown and germinating and knock up a coldframe while you wait for them.
Shadecloth is no good. You want a box with a clear plastic lid for a coldframe. Have another look at the site i showed you and think about it. You’ll find something.

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Date: 28/06/2008 19:15:14
From: veg gardener
ID: 20537
Subject: re: veggie plantings

Longy said:


i can find some ShadeCloth we have some of that would that be any good,
++++++++++++
Mate, best thing is to get organised. You’re jumping from one idea to another like a 3 legged grasshopper..
A coldframe is something you can build.
You need seedlings to put in it. SO don’t panic.
Get the seeds sown and germinating and knock up a coldframe while you wait for them.
Shadecloth is no good. You want a box with a clear plastic lid for a coldframe. Have another look at the site i showed you and think about it. You’ll find something.

ok. wouldn’t the shadecloth keep out some frost?

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Date: 28/06/2008 19:18:06
From: Longy
ID: 20539
Subject: re: veggie plantings

veg gardener said:


Longy said:

i can find some ShadeCloth we have some of that would that be any good,
++++++++++++
Mate, best thing is to get organised. You’re jumping from one idea to another like a 3 legged grasshopper..
A coldframe is something you can build.
You need seedlings to put in it. SO don’t panic.
Get the seeds sown and germinating and knock up a coldframe while you wait for them.
Shadecloth is no good. You want a box with a clear plastic lid for a coldframe. Have another look at the site i showed you and think about it. You’ll find something.

ok. wouldn’t the shadecloth keep out some frost?

Yes, but it won’t hold temperatures and it’ll reduce light. You want full sun not shaded sun.

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