Bald Statement:

There is no dark side of the moon.

the side that faces away from the sun is dark.

Ian said:

Bald Statement:

There is no dark side of the moon.

sure there is, i’m looking at the album right now

Boris said:

the side that faces away from the sun is dark.

No it’s not Boris –

There are always photons from some region of space impacting the so called “dark side”.

are these photons visible to a human eye though?

Visibility to the human eye is not implied by the definition of dark.

what is the definition then?

Google (if you can believe them) gives – “With little or no light”.

Boris said:

what is the definition then?

I can’t really recall all the details, but I do remember it has something to do with an orange.

Actually, I can see where that may cause me to stumble.

Google (if you can believe them) gives – “With little or no light”.

so my interpretation was correct then.

Alright then (rolls up sleeves) – the definition of side is loose.

yep, spheres don’t have sides.

Boris said:

yep, spheres don’t have sides.

what about outside and inside?

Boris said:

yep, spheres don’t have sides.

So you are conceding.

soooo stumpy, you saying the moon is hollow? i guess that is where the lunaticks live.

stumpy_seahorse said:

what about outside and inside?

I dunno – what about them?

wookiemeister said:

Aha – Very wookiesk

Ian said:

wookiemeister said:

Aha – Very wookiesk

It is unhelpful to repeat large images…

There is no dark side of the moon.
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But yes,

This has been known before the release of the album.

Other than that…

Excellent work.

So, without even discussing the libration of the moon, which means that the bit visible from Earth varies, and we see in total about 59% of the “light side” of the moon, the line between the light and dark sides varies.

And as mentioned previously “side of sphere” is meaningless.

Can we agree then, that while there is no side of the moon in a pedantic sense and therefore no dark side, common usage would dictate that there is a dark side.. whilst scientifically speaking, there is a large dark slightly less than hem-spherical portion of the moon which is ill-defined at boundaries?

People who say “dark side of the moon” probably mean “far side of the moon”, but have been confused by Pink Floyd.

Bubblecar said:

People who say “dark side of the moon” probably mean “far side of the moon”, but have been confused by Pink Floyd.

When I hear “Dark side of the moon”, I think of the inside.

Is a bald statement to be treated any more or less seriously than a bold statement?

>When I hear “Dark side of the moon”, I think of the inside of a cat.

fixed

Mr Ironic said:

It is unhelpful to repeat large images…

Yes, I suppose that doesn’t help the forum hardware/data usage.. ;)

I fail to see the irony however.

Oh, very bloody helpful comments indeed from you lot :P

Ian said:

Oh, very bloody helpful comments indeed from you lot :P

What were you hoping for?

I fail to see the irony however.
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Yes.

Rule 303 said:

Is a bald statement to be treated any more or less seriously than a bold statement?

No to both. But much more seriously than an extremely hairy statement.

So, without even discussing the libration of the moon, which means that the bit visible from Earth varies, and we see in total about 59% of the “light side” of the moon, the line between the light and dark sides varies.
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No Ian. We see 59% of the ‘whole moon’ due to libration. We see very close to 100% of the ‘light side’ of the moon. We also see very close to 100% of the ‘dark side’ of the moon about two weeks later.

Stealth said:

We see very close to 100% of the ‘light side’ of the moon. We also see very close to 100% of the ‘dark side’ of the moon about two weeks later.

Wait, what? Can you please explain that some more, please?

I thought the Moon was in a state called ‘Tidal Lock’ that meant we only every really saw one side…?

Stealth said:

So, without even discussing the libration of the moon, which means that the bit visible from Earth varies, and we see in total about 59% of the “light side” of the moon, the line between the light and dark sides varies.
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No Ian. We see 59% of the ‘whole moon’ due to libration. We see very close to 100% of the ‘light side’ of the moon. We also see very close to 100% of the ‘dark side’ of the moon about two weeks later.

Point taken.. brain fade

Rule 303 said:

Stealth said:

We see very close to 100% of the ‘light side’ of the moon. We also see very close to 100% of the ‘dark side’ of the moon about two weeks later.

Wait, what? Can you please explain that some more, please?

I thought the Moon was in a state called ‘Tidal Lock’ that meant we only every really saw one side…?

Yes we only see the near side, but due to libration we actually see 59% of the moon. However sometime 100% of the near side is dark the dark side (New moon) and at other times 100% of the near side light (full moon) and we see both. What we don’t see is the far side of the moon, light or dark, unless you are an Apollo driver.

Stealth said:

We see very close to 100% of the ‘light side’ of the moon. We also see very close to 100% of the ‘dark side’ of the moon about two weeks later.

From the FOR of point on earth following the moon’s obit this is irrelevant to this discussion (I think).

Stealth said:

What we don’t see is the far side of the moon, light or dark, unless you are an Apollo driver.

Oh, right. Yes.

There are some unilluminated craters near the poles

dv said:

There are some unilluminated craters near the poles

So, what’s your point re this discussion?

Well … they aren’t exactly a side but I thought it might be pertinent to mention there are some dark parts of the moon

Ian said:

dv said:

There are some unilluminated craters near the poles

So, what’s your point re this discussion?

Careful, this discussion lost it’s point after the OP was pointed out to be wrong very early on. It is not nice to run around telling everyone else they post are pointless in what has turned into a more general thread.

dv said:

Well … they aren’t exactly a side but I thought it might be pertinent to mention there are some dark parts of the moon

A bit darker than the darker bit.

Stealth said:

Careful, this discussion lost it’s point after the OP was pointed out to be wrong very early on. It is not nice to run around telling everyone else they post are pointless in what has turned into a more general thread.

So… default forum discussion mode.