Date: 12/10/2013 20:31:50
From: Obviousman
ID: 411929
Subject: Spotters thread

For aircraft nerds.

Grumman S-2 Trackers awaiting smelting down in Tucson, Arizona.

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:39:18
From: Obviousman
ID: 411937
Subject: re: Spotters thread

F-105 Thunderchief at the USAF Air Armaments Museum, Eglin AFB, Florida.

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:40:37
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411940
Subject: re: Spotters thread

And look, there’s a P-47 in the background, and is that a Ryan Firebee hanging from the roof?

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:42:30
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 411943
Subject: re: Spotters thread

thought it looked like a thunderbolt. P-51 further back?

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:42:48
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411944
Subject: re: Spotters thread

ChrispenEvan said:


thought it looked like a thunderbolt. P-51 further back?

Believe so.

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:44:09
From: Obviousman
ID: 411945
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


And look, there’s a P-47 in the background, and is that a Ryan Firebee hanging from the roof?

Yes, indeed.

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:45:46
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 411948
Subject: re: Spotters thread

i was told yesterday that there is a golf course in southern NSW that has a liberator up on a pole atit’s entrance gate.
Anyone know which golf course it is at?

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:46:09
From: Obviousman
ID: 411949
Subject: re: Spotters thread

F-8 Crusader at the USS Alabama Memorial Park

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:48:34
From: Obviousman
ID: 411952
Subject: re: Spotters thread

stumpy_seahorse said:


i was told yesterday that there is a golf course in southern NSW that has a liberator up on a pole atit’s entrance gate.
Anyone know which golf course it is at?

Never heard of that before. Considering how rare the B-24 is, I’d doubt it.

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:51:35
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 411958
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

i was told yesterday that there is a golf course in southern NSW that has a liberator up on a pole atit’s entrance gate.
Anyone know which golf course it is at?

Never heard of that before. Considering how rare the B-24 is, I’d doubt it.

the story i heard was that after the darwin bombing, the USAF built a whole base there in a week 1000 peoplemoved in and they had 2 runways, when they moved further north to QLD, the golf course was built on that site

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:51:54
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411959
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

i was told yesterday that there is a golf course in southern NSW that has a liberator up on a pole atit’s entrance gate.
Anyone know which golf course it is at?

Never heard of that before. Considering how rare the B-24 is, I’d doubt it.

There’s a scale model of one on a pole at Tocumwal Air Museum. Can’t find anything other than that.

If it was a ‘real’ B-24, it’d need one mighty hefty pole!

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:53:27
From: Obviousman
ID: 411962
Subject: re: Spotters thread

B-1 bomber at the USAF Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (AKA The Boneyard), Tucson AZ. These aircraft were trialling a new method of storage. They normally use a substance called ‘spraylat’ to cover the outside of the aircraft to protect it. These aircraft just used a cover.

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:54:23
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 411964
Subject: re: Spotters thread

stumpy_seahorse said:


Obviousman said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

i was told yesterday that there is a golf course in southern NSW that has a liberator up on a pole atit’s entrance gate.
Anyone know which golf course it is at?

Never heard of that before. Considering how rare the B-24 is, I’d doubt it.

the story i heard was that after the darwin bombing, the USAF built a whole base there in a week 1000 peoplemoved in and they had 2 runways, when they moved further north to QLD, the golf course was built on that site

http://www.tocumwalgolf.com.au/Tocumwal/tocumwalhistory

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:56:30
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411965
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


F-8 Crusader at the USS Alabama Memorial Park

And a member of the Poohawk tribe in the background.

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:56:48
From: Obviousman
ID: 411966
Subject: re: Spotters thread

T-37 training aircraft at the AMARG. They were used at a basic jet training aircraft. They were also used at the USAF test pilot school.

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:57:03
From: Kingy
ID: 411968
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


B-1 bomber at the USAF Aerospace Maintenance and Regeneration Group (AKA The Boneyard), Tucson AZ. These aircraft were trialling a new method of storage. They normally use a substance called ‘spraylat’ to cover the outside of the aircraft to protect it. These aircraft just used a cover.


Can you get those off the shelf at Supercheap autos, or do you have to order them in?

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:57:51
From: Obviousman
ID: 411969
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Carmen_Sandiego said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

Obviousman said:

Never heard of that before. Considering how rare the B-24 is, I’d doubt it.

the story i heard was that after the darwin bombing, the USAF built a whole base there in a week 1000 peoplemoved in and they had 2 runways, when they moved further north to QLD, the golf course was built on that site

Wow! Never knew that before – thank you! Might need to take a drive…..

http://www.tocumwalgolf.com.au/Tocumwal/tocumwalhistory


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Date: 12/10/2013 20:57:53
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411970
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Kingy said:

The covers, or the bombers?

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Date: 12/10/2013 20:59:13
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 411971
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


Obviousman said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

i was told yesterday that there is a golf course in southern NSW that has a liberator up on a pole atit’s entrance gate.
Anyone know which golf course it is at?

Never heard of that before. Considering how rare the B-24 is, I’d doubt it.

There’s a scale model of one on a pole at Tocumwal Air Museum. Can’t find anything other than that.

If it was a ‘real’ B-24, it’d need one mighty hefty pole!

that was my thought.

however, i did recieve this yesterday too.



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Date: 12/10/2013 20:59:24
From: Obviousman
ID: 411972
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Grrr. “They were used AS a basic jet training aircraft…”

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:00:01
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 411974
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Carmen_Sandiego said:

stumpy_seahorse said:

the story i heard was that after the darwin bombing, the USAF built a whole base there in a week 1000 peoplemoved in and they had 2 runways, when they moved further north to QLD, the golf course was built on that site

http://www.tocumwalgolf.com.au/Tocumwal/tocumwalhistory


Wow! Never knew that before – thank you! Might need to take a drive…..

The original brick entry wall and sentry box and RAAF signage located at the northern entrance to the Golf Course, together with the scale replica B-24 bomber pole mounted at the Barooga Road entrance, keep alive the history of those years.
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Date: 12/10/2013 21:00:39
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 411975
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Carmen_Sandiego said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

Obviousman said:

Never heard of that before. Considering how rare the B-24 is, I’d doubt it.

the story i heard was that after the darwin bombing, the USAF built a whole base there in a week 1000 peoplemoved in and they had 2 runways, when they moved further north to QLD, the golf course was built on that site

http://www.tocumwalgolf.com.au/Tocumwal/tocumwalhistory


awesome, thanks CS

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:03:01
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411977
Subject: re: Spotters thread

stumpy_seahorse said:

however, i did recieve this yesterday too.

1939-45 Star, Burma Star, Defence Medal

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:04:49
From: Obviousman
ID: 411978
Subject: re: Spotters thread

A collection at AMARG. EF-111, F/A-18, F-4, etc…

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:05:36
From: stumpy_seahorse
ID: 411980
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


stumpy_seahorse said:

however, i did recieve this yesterday too.

1939-45 Star, Burma Star, Defence Medal

yes, grandfather’s uniform

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:08:09
From: Obviousman
ID: 411981
Subject: re: Spotters thread

E-2C Hawkeye aircraft.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:10:04
From: Obviousman
ID: 411982
Subject: re: Spotters thread

P-3 Orions at AMARG. If you haven’t got it by now, there are a shedload of aircraft at this place.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:10:36
From: Kingy
ID: 411983
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


Kingy said:

Can you get those off the shelf at Supercheap autos, or do you have to order them in?

The covers, or the bombers?

The covers. My B1 is sitting out on the lawn getting covered in dust and bird poop.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:12:09
From: Obviousman
ID: 411984
Subject: re: Spotters thread

F-4 Phantom IIs. These and F-16s are being converted to unmanned target drones.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:12:44
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411985
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


F-4 Phantom IIs. These and F-16s are being converted to unmanned target drones.

No chance i could buy

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:13:19
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411986
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


Obviousman said:

F-4 Phantom IIs. These and F-16s are being converted to unmanned target drones.

No chance i could buy a working F-4 then?

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:16:13
From: Obviousman
ID: 411987
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


Obviousman said:

F-4 Phantom IIs. These and F-16s are being converted to unmanned target drones.

No chance i could buy

If you can meet ITAR then sure….

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:16:28
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 411988
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


F-4 Phantom IIs. These and F-16s are being converted to unmanned target drones.

Fur use in military exercises or in real combat?

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:18:19
From: poikilotherm
ID: 411989
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Best you’ll get is an TA-4J..

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:19:16
From: Kingy
ID: 411990
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


P-3 Orions at AMARG. If you haven’t got it by now, there are a shedload of aircraft at this place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/evilroyburton/AMARG/Boneyard6.jpg

I read somewhere that if the aircraft at that one base were operational, it would be the third largest airforce in the world.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:19:38
From: Obviousman
ID: 411991
Subject: re: Spotters thread

B-25 Mitchell at the Kermit Week’s Fantasy of Flight museum, Polk City, Florida. Kermit inherited an oil empire and like to play with aircraft. He has an entire airport full of them.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:20:43
From: Obviousman
ID: 411992
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Witty Rejoinder said:


Obviousman said:

F-4 Phantom IIs. These and F-16s are being converted to unmanned target drones.

Fur use in military exercises or in real combat?

Just for targets during training and air combat exercises.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:22:45
From: Obviousman
ID: 411993
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Kingy said:


Obviousman said:

P-3 Orions at AMARG. If you haven’t got it by now, there are a shedload of aircraft at this place.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/evilroyburton/AMARG/Boneyard6.jpg

I read somewhere that if the aircraft at that one base were operational, it would be the third largest airforce in the world.

No doubt. I remember going to the US Army helo training school at Fort Rucker, AL. That one training base had more helicopters than we have in all the ADF.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:23:14
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411994
Subject: re: Spotters thread

poikilotherm said:


Best you’ll get is an TA-4J..

OK, that’s nice.

I don’t even mind that the 20mms and hardpoints are gone.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:24:10
From: captain_spalding
ID: 411995
Subject: re: Spotters thread

A second look shoes that it still has a centreline ejector ram!

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:25:36
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 411998
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


A second look shoes that it still has a centreline ejector ram!

Phoaw!

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:26:17
From: poikilotherm
ID: 412000
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Peak Warming Man said:


captain_spalding said:

A second look shoes that it still has a centreline ejector ram!

Phoaw!

Shouldn’t you be feeding an old boiler?

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:26:48
From: Obviousman
ID: 412001
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Spaceship 1 and the Bell X-1 at the National Air & Space Museum, Washington DC.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:26:53
From: Kingy
ID: 412002
Subject: re: Spotters thread

AMARG aerial pic:

Those big planes at about 8 oclock that make the Buffs look small. Are they Globemasters?

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:27:30
From: Obviousman
ID: 412004
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


poikilotherm said:

Best you’ll get is an TA-4J..

OK, that’s nice.

I don’t even mind that the 20mms and hardpoints are gone.

Could I borrow some money from someone? There is something I need to buy….

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:27:49
From: poikilotherm
ID: 412005
Subject: re: Spotters thread

I think they’re B-52s, they still use the Globemasters…

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:29:01
From: Obviousman
ID: 412007
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Kingy said:


AMARG aerial pic:

Those big planes at about 8 oclock that make the Buffs look small. Are they Globemasters?

Nah… C-141s.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:30:42
From: Kingy
ID: 412008
Subject: re: Spotters thread

poikilotherm said:


I think they’re B-52s, they still use the Globemasters…

B-52 = Buff.

Buff = Big Ugly Fat Fucker.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:30:47
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412009
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Kingy said:

AMARG aerial pic:

Those big planes at about 8 oclock that make the Buffs look small. Are they Globemasters?

Nah… C-141s.

Yes. They’d all be C-141Bs, withthe fuselage extension inserted aft of the wing.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:31:08
From: Skunkworks
ID: 412010
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Kingy said:

AMARG aerial pic:

Those big planes at about 8 oclock that make the Buffs look small. Are they Globemasters?

Nah… C-141s.

Must be plenty of room cos that is not the most efficient packaging.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:31:26
From: poikilotherm
ID: 412011
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Kingy said:


poikilotherm said:

I think they’re B-52s, they still use the Globemasters…

B-52 = Buff.

Buff = Big Ugly Fat Fucker.

Ah…

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:31:49
From: Obviousman
ID: 412012
Subject: re: Spotters thread

C-141s at AMARG.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:32:10
From: jjjust moi
ID: 412013
Subject: re: Spotters thread

poikilotherm said:


I think they’re B-52s, they still use the Globemasters…

The aircraft at 4 o’clock look more like B52s, with the swept back wing.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:33:41
From: Obviousman
ID: 412014
Subject: re: Spotters thread

X-15 number 1 at the NASM.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:34:29
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412015
Subject: re: Spotters thread

There’s a lot of C-135s there, C-130s, and at the 5 o’clock and 7 o’clock positions, a lot of B-52s that have been cut up for scrap.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:35:12
From: Obviousman
ID: 412016
Subject: re: Spotters thread

oh – I haven’t re-scaled a lot of these images so look out people: they’re gunna be big!

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:37:32
From: Obviousman
ID: 412017
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


There’s a lot of C-135s there, C-130s, and at the 5 o’clock and 7 o’clock positions, a lot of B-52s that have been cut up for scrap.

The cut B-52s are there as part of the arms limitation treaties, enabling them to be imaged by Russian satellites. There are still numerous B-52s kept as spares. The B-52 will be in service for decades yet.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:38:19
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 412018
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Kingy said:


poikilotherm said:

I think they’re B-52s, they still use the Globemasters…

B-52 = Buff.

Buff = Big Ugly Fat Fucker.

I dare you to say that to its face.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:39:07
From: party_pants
ID: 412019
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Great thread :)

Will read again

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:40:34
From: Kingy
ID: 412020
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


X-15 number 1 at the NASM.


Lots of background stuff for the spotters.

Apollo capsule?
Wright brothers flier.
Pioneer spacecraft.
Lunar lander.
Sounding rocket.
Mystery plane behind cockpit. Probly a tiger moth in drag.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:43:21
From: Kingy
ID: 412021
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Carmen_Sandiego said:


Kingy said:

poikilotherm said:

I think they’re B-52s, they still use the Globemasters…

B-52 = Buff.

Buff = Big Ugly Fat Fucker.

I dare you to say that to its face.

Only if it is on the ground, unarmed, and incommunicado.

Then I shall retire to a bunker several kilometers underground.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:44:19
From: Obviousman
ID: 412022
Subject: re: Spotters thread

The first F-35B Lightning II, now retired at the NASM Uder-Hazy annex at Dulles airport, Washington. If you look at the tail it says X-35B but that designation is debatable. It is an XF-35B.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:45:41
From: Obviousman
ID: 412023
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Kingy said:


Obviousman said:

X-15 number 1 at the NASM.


Lots of background stuff for the spotters.

Apollo capsule?
Wright brothers flier.
Pioneer spacecraft.
Lunar lander.
Sounding rocket.
Mystery plane behind cockpit. Probly a tiger moth in drag.

F-104 and the Viking Mars lander.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:49:59
From: Obviousman
ID: 412024
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Main aircraft: the prototype Boeing 707 called the Dash 80 at the Uder-Hazy NASM annex. Also a Concorde and just a few other aircraft…

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:51:16
From: Kingy
ID: 412025
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Kingy said:

Obviousman said:

X-15 number 1 at the NASM.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/evilroyburton/NASM/NASMWashington071.jpg

Lots of background stuff for the spotters.

Apollo capsule?
Wright brothers flier.
Pioneer spacecraft.
Lunar lander.
Sounding rocket.
Mystery plane behind cockpit. Probly a tiger moth in drag.

F-104 and the Viking Mars lander.

Wow, I never knew that the F-104 was just a tiger moth in drag.

If Baron Von Richthofen had known that, he would not have been such a smartarse.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:51:38
From: party_pants
ID: 412026
Subject: re: Spotters thread

What’s the business jet hanging from the roof – original Learjet?

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:51:58
From: Obviousman
ID: 412027
Subject: re: Spotters thread

The Hiroshima bomber, B-29 Enola Gay.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:52:53
From: Obviousman
ID: 412028
Subject: re: Spotters thread

party_pants said:


What’s the business jet hanging from the roof – original Learjet?

I don’t know but it sounds like a good guess.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:54:09
From: Obviousman
ID: 412029
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Arado 234 Blitz, a Nazi jet bomber.

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:58:11
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412031
Subject: re: Spotters thread

It’s the second Learjet.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N802L

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Date: 12/10/2013 21:58:38
From: Obviousman
ID: 412032
Subject: re: Spotters thread

F-8 Crusader at the National Naval Aviation Museum at NAS Pensacola, Florida.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:01:40
From: party_pants
ID: 412036
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


It’s the second Learjet.

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?regsearch=N802L

thanks.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:02:33
From: Obviousman
ID: 412037
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Vought F7U Cutlass at Pensacola with a T-28 Trojan in the background. The F7U was known as the Gutless Cutlass due to its under-powered engine.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:03:16
From: Kingy
ID: 412039
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Inside a Dropship from the first Alien movie.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:05:05
From: Obviousman
ID: 412041
Subject: re: Spotters thread

I’m guessing that is a C-17 in real life?

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:07:30
From: Obviousman
ID: 412042
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Convair B-58 Hustler at the Pima Air & Space Museum, Tucsan AZ. This museum sits just across the road from the AMARG.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:09:31
From: Obviousman
ID: 412043
Subject: re: Spotters thread

This is the C-124 Globemaster II at Pima.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:11:57
From: Obviousman
ID: 412045
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Logistics was very important in the Cold War. A C-133 Cargomaster at Pima.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:14:35
From: Obviousman
ID: 412047
Subject: re: Spotters thread

I love this shot. Three B-52s at Pima. The third one was one of two X-15 drop aircraft. This one was called the High & Mighty.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:14:38
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412048
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Vought F7U Cutlass at Pensacola with a T-28 Trojan in the background. The F7U was known as the Gutless Cutlass due to its under-powered engine.

There’s a couple of T-28s that live at our local airport. Other planes drop in frequently. Last weekend, we had five T-28s practising formations.

The Cutlass was also known as ‘the Ensign Killer’ . It had non-afterburning Allison engines. With a decent engine, it could have been a top-notch aircraft.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:16:50
From: morrie
ID: 412050
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


This is the C-124 Globemaster II at Pima.



Ok, I’m going to hold my breath until someone takes me for a flight!

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:17:49
From: party_pants
ID: 412052
Subject: re: Spotters thread

The other end of the aviation spectrum – kit built ultralights. My BiL’s plane. A great way to see the city and surrounds.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:17:57
From: Obviousman
ID: 412053
Subject: re: Spotters thread

The North American F-107 ‘Ultra Sabre’. It was built as a development of the F-100 Super Sabre but lost out in competition to the Republic F-105. Two aircraft were built.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:19:05
From: Obviousman
ID: 412054
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


Obviousman said:

Vought F7U Cutlass at Pensacola with a T-28 Trojan in the background. The F7U was known as the Gutless Cutlass due to its under-powered engine.

There’s a couple of T-28s that live at our local airport. Other planes drop in frequently. Last weekend, we had five T-28s practising formations.

The Cutlass was also known as ‘the Ensign Killer’ . It had non-afterburning Allison engines. With a decent engine, it could have been a top-notch aircraft.

That’s why I like it… it could have been a great aircraft.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:19:47
From: Obviousman
ID: 412055
Subject: re: Spotters thread

party_pants said:


The other end of the aviation spectrum – kit built ultralights. My BiL’s plane. A great way to see the city and surrounds.


Looks sweet!

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:22:36
From: Obviousman
ID: 412058
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Pima. Let’s play ‘name that aircraft’!

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:25:26
From: Rule 303
ID: 412061
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


T-37 training aircraft at the AMARG. They were used at a basic jet training aircraft. They were also used at the USAF test pilot school.

Pretty sure they’re what I flew out of the Fullerton Municipal airfield in Ca. Stiff as a board and wildly over-powered.

If you can point the stick, the plane will go…

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:26:56
From: Kingy
ID: 412064
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Rule 303 said:

wildly over-powered.

No such thing.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:27:26
From: party_pants
ID: 412065
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Pima. Let’s play ‘name that aircraft’!


I’m useless at that era. I can see an F4 Phantom in the row, but I’m no good at the rest.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:29:17
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412067
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Pima. Let’s play ‘name that aircraft’!

well, there’s some of the usual suspects, but is that a Douglas Skyray? Pretty sure that’s an F9F Panther at right, and the tail of an F-84 farther right again. And i think it’s a Douglas F3H Demon down near the F-4.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:32:20
From: Kingy
ID: 412070
Subject: re: Spotters thread

party_pants said:


Obviousman said:

Pima. Let’s play ‘name that aircraft’!


I’m useless at that era. I can see an F4 Phantom in the row, but I’m no good at the rest.

Cessna, Concorde, B-52, Spitfire, Hang glider, FW109, and two kittyhawks.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:32:26
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412071
Subject: re: Spotters thread

The one between the Skyray and the Panther eludes me, and there’s a little blue one next the F-4 that i can make out. A Folland Gnat? A Yak-36 Forger?

On the other side of the F-4 – some kind of Harrier?

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:33:43
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412073
Subject: re: Spotters thread

A Douglas Cougar next to the Panther?

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:34:03
From: Obviousman
ID: 412074
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


Obviousman said:

Pima. Let’s play ‘name that aircraft’!

well, there’s some of the usual suspects, but is that a Douglas Skyray? Pretty sure that’s an F9F Panther at right, and the tail of an F-84 farther right again. And i think it’s a Douglas F3H Demon down near the F-4.

All correct so far….

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:40:34
From: Obviousman
ID: 412082
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


The one between the Skyray and the Panther eludes me, and there’s a little blue one next the F-4 that i can make out. A Folland Gnat? A Yak-36 Forger?

On the other side of the F-4 – some kind of Harrier?

Gnat is very close. Think a European equivalent.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:47:28
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412086
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


captain_spalding said:

The one between the Skyray and the Panther eludes me, and there’s a little blue one next the F-4 that i can make out. A Folland Gnat? A Yak-36 Forger?

On the other side of the F-4 – some kind of Harrier?

Gnat is very close. Think a European equivalent.

An Alphajet? Or a Galeb or an L-29 Delfin?

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:48:48
From: Obviousman
ID: 412087
Subject: re: Spotters thread

A-7 Corsair II at the Valiant Air Command, Titusville, Florida, just outside Cape Kennedy.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:49:28
From: Obviousman
ID: 412088
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


Obviousman said:

captain_spalding said:

The one between the Skyray and the Panther eludes me, and there’s a little blue one next the F-4 that i can make out. A Folland Gnat? A Yak-36 Forger?

On the other side of the F-4 – some kind of Harrier?

Gnat is very close. Think a European equivalent.

An Alphajet? Or a Galeb or an L-29 Delfin?

Alphajet. Luftwaffe.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:50:09
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412089
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


A-7 Corsair II at the Valiant Air Command, Titusville, Florida, just outside Cape Kennedy.

SLUF

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:51:13
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412090
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:

Alphajet. Luftwaffe.

Ah. Couldn’t see the distinctive shape from that angle.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:52:04
From: Obviousman
ID: 412091
Subject: re: Spotters thread

T-2 Buckeye at Titusville. The Buckeye was the USN advanced jet trainer, and used for initial carrier deck landing qualifications.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:53:02
From: party_pants
ID: 412092
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


A-7 Corsair II at the Valiant Air Command, Titusville, Florida, just outside Cape Kennedy.


I love the A-7 for some reason. Not sure why. I built several 1:72 plastic models of this plane in my teen years. I had all the rest too but these were my favourites.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:54:21
From: Obviousman
ID: 412094
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Cockpit from a F-106 procedures trainer. These were ‘ground based’ cockpits that allowed aircrew to practise checks.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:55:05
From: Obviousman
ID: 412095
Subject: re: Spotters thread

party_pants said:


Obviousman said:

A-7 Corsair II at the Valiant Air Command, Titusville, Florida, just outside Cape Kennedy.


I love the A-7 for some reason. Not sure why. I built several 1:72 plastic models of this plane in my teen years. I had all the rest too but these were my favourites.

It’s a good looking aircraft. That and the F-8.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:56:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412096
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


T-2 Buckeye at Titusville. The Buckeye was the USN advanced jet trainer, and used for initial carrier deck landing qualifications.

The T-2 was originally powered by a Westinghouse jet. Eventually, the USN decided that asking people to trust their lives to a Westinghouse jet was just too much, so they re-engined with two P&Ws. With T-2s, it didn’t matter which engine you started first.

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Date: 12/10/2013 22:59:39
From: Obviousman
ID: 412097
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Apollo A-7LB suit at the US Space & rocket Centre, Huntsville , AL.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:01:57
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412098
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Apollo A-7LB suit at the US Space & rocket Centre, Huntsville , AL.

How odd.

Why would you wear a sign saying ‘Please do not touch’ on the moon?

Unless you were visiting a SECRET ALIEN BASE!!!!

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:02:36
From: Obviousman
ID: 412099
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Gemini cockpit trainer at the USSRC.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:03:16
From: Obviousman
ID: 412100
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


Obviousman said:

Apollo A-7LB suit at the US Space & rocket Centre, Huntsville , AL.

How odd.

Why would you wear a sign saying ‘Please do not touch’ on the moon?

Unless you were visiting a SECRET ALIEN BASE!!!!

LOL! The MIB will be to your location shortly….

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:05:04
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412101
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Gemini cockpit trainer at the USSRC.

And that’s where you and your companion sat and did absolutely EVERYTHING for days on end in space.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:05:32
From: wookiemeister
ID: 412102
Subject: re: Spotters thread

I was talking to someone a few days ago who was convinced the yanks had bases already on mars

the theory being that so much money disappears that you could fund a space programme and go to other planets without anyone knowing

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:05:34
From: Kingy
ID: 412103
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


T-2 Buckeye at Titusville. The Buckeye was the USN advanced jet trainer, and used for initial carrier deck landing qualifications.

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v241/evilroyburton/Valiant%20Air%20Command%202008/T2Buckeye.jpg

It is amazing just how strong the wing spar is. Such a narrow profile, such a hard landing.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:06:25
From: party_pants
ID: 412104
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Gemini cockpit trainer at the USSRC.

looks a tad… cramped.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:06:46
From: Obviousman
ID: 412105
Subject: re: Spotters thread

A full scale model of a Saturn V outside the USSRC. The dimensions are slightly wrong; the top of the model needed to have a red anti-collision light on it. In order to change the globe, it was either a big-ass crane (363 feet) or making the top a little wider than it really was and allow a person to go through the model.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:07:17
From: party_pants
ID: 412106
Subject: re: Spotters thread

wookiemeister said:


I was talking to someone a few days ago who was convinced the yanks had bases already on mars

the theory being that so much money disappears that you could fund a space programme and go to other planets without anyone knowing

Has he factored in the cost of politicians attending weddings?

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:09:24
From: Obviousman
ID: 412107
Subject: re: Spotters thread

party_pants said:


Obviousman said:

Gemini cockpit trainer at the USSRC.

looks a tad… cramped.

Jim Lovell described his mission with Frank Borman as “13 days shoe-horned in the front of a Volkswagon”.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:10:51
From: Obviousman
ID: 412109
Subject: re: Spotters thread

The rocket garden at the USSRC.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:12:19
From: Skunkworks
ID: 412111
Subject: re: Spotters thread

I read a good book about the Kennedy Space Centre from its inception, Air Force and Naval involvement in the battle for platforms, and the transition from the Germanic management style to the more modern management style to handle the increasing complexity especially during the Shuttle period.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:13:57
From: Obviousman
ID: 412112
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Skunkworks said:


I read a good book about the Kennedy Space Centre from its inception, Air Force and Naval involvement in the battle for platforms, and the transition from the Germanic management style to the more modern management style to handle the increasing complexity especially during the Shuttle period.

Would that be “Spaceport”?

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:15:38
From: wookiemeister
ID: 412113
Subject: re: Spotters thread

there are murmurings that that intend to revisit the f1 rocket engine for the “SLS

they might just be going back to cheap old kerosene and LOX to get stuff into orbit rather than solid fuel and liquid hydrogen and LOX

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:17:05
From: Obviousman
ID: 412114
Subject: re: Spotters thread

wookiemeister said:


there are murmurings that that intend to revisit the f1 rocket engine for the “SLS

they might just be going back to cheap old kerosene and LOX to get stuff into orbit rather than solid fuel and liquid hydrogen and LOX

it is still being considered. That, and the J-2X engine.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:18:44
From: wookiemeister
ID: 412115
Subject: re: Spotters thread

the shuttle was a dud because it was never implemented in a logical way

the best way to attach a shuttle is on the very top

this means its much more aerodynamically stable and the chances of debris hitting are minimal

it would mean a smaller shuttle but the chances of people coming back alive are increased

by rights the skylon design is the most logical

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:20:12
From: Skunkworks
ID: 412116
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Obviousman said:


Skunkworks said:

I read a good book about the Kennedy Space Centre from its inception, Air Force and Naval involvement in the battle for platforms, and the transition from the Germanic management style to the more modern management style to handle the increasing complexity especially during the Shuttle period.

Would that be “Spaceport”?

Checks library, no, it would be A history of the Kennedy Space Centre by Lipartito and Butler.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:24:22
From: Michael V
ID: 412117
Subject: re: Spotters thread

So, what’s the aircraft on a pole opposite Willowbank Caravan Park?

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:25:53
From: wookiemeister
ID: 412118
Subject: re: Spotters thread

the logical way to explore the solar system is to build the basic frames of the spaceships in earths orbit

craft like skylon would ferry equipment and materials to the factory in orbit

I’ve mooted a large 3D printer to do this the basic structure of the ship could be printed out in orbit and the expensive stuff shipped to the space dock

you couldn’t build in the moon’s orbit because apparently it has irregularities in its gravity that would push an orbiting spacecraft out of whack very quickly and you’d need to burn fuel to keep in a stable orbit.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:28:24
From: captain_spalding
ID: 412120
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Michael V said:


So, what’s the aircraft on a pole opposite Willowbank Caravan Park?

Canberra bomber.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:28:31
From: Kingy
ID: 412121
Subject: re: Spotters thread

wookiemeister said:


the logical way to explore the solar system is to build the basic frames of the spaceships in earths orbit

craft like skylon would ferry equipment and materials to the factory in orbit

I’ve mooted a large 3D printer to do this the basic structure of the ship could be printed out in orbit and the expensive stuff shipped to the space dock

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:31:00
From: Kingy
ID: 412124
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Kingy said:


wookiemeister said:

the logical way to explore the solar system is to build the basic frames of the spaceships in earths orbit

craft like skylon would ferry equipment and materials to the factory in orbit

I’ve mooted a large 3D printer to do this the basic structure of the ship could be printed out in orbit and the expensive stuff shipped to the space dock

Oops. nothing to see here. Move along…

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:31:03
From: Michael V
ID: 412125
Subject: re: Spotters thread

captain_spalding said:


Michael V said:

So, what’s the aircraft on a pole opposite Willowbank Caravan Park?

Canberra bomber.

Seems like that’s correct. Well done.

Australia – Air Force More: English Electric (GAF) Canberra Mk20

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Australia—-Air/English-Electric-(GAF)/1153867/&sid=5cd79d08d202435977efa3d3dacfb94f

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:31:35
From: Michael V
ID: 412126
Subject: re: Spotters thread

and:

http://www.airliners.net/photo/Australia—-Air/English-Electric-(GAF)/1068849/&sid=5cd79d08d202435977efa3d3dacfb94f

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:31:58
From: furious
ID: 412127
Subject: re: Spotters thread

How is this easier? Still have to shift the weight up, in fact you’d be shifting more weight than you needed…

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:34:14
From: Michael V
ID: 412128
Subject: re: Spotters thread

And:

http://www.airliners.net/search/photo.search?placesearch=Off-Airport+-+Willowbank

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:35:18
From: Obviousman
ID: 412129
Subject: re: Spotters thread

I love the Canberra. Beautiful aircraft.

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:37:21
From: Michael V
ID: 412131
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Well, you now know where there’s two of them, rotting away…

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Date: 12/10/2013 23:52:23
From: CrazyNeutrino
ID: 412148
Subject: re: Spotters thread

Prototype Quadrotor with Machine Gun!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SNPJMk2fgJU

/russian accent

this guy cracks me up, but I like him and its very interesting stuff

I have odered one hundered of them to protect my pot plants from bogans and police

have a nice day

/russian accent

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