Date: 18/10/2013 10:04:11
From: wookiemeister
ID: 415754
Subject: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

Myth: Serial killers are all white males.
http://www.fbi.gov/stats-services/publications/serial-murder

Contrary to popular belief, serial killers span all racial groups. There are white, African-American, Hispanic, and Asian serial killers. The racial diversification of serial killers generally mirrors that of the overall U.S. population.

• Charles Ng, a native of Hong Kong, China, killed numerous victims in Northern California, in concert with Robert Lake.

• Derrick Todd Lee, an African-American, killed at least six women in Baton Rouge, Louisiana.

• Coral Eugene Watts, an African-American, killed five victims in Michigan, fled the state to avoid detection, and murdered another 12 victims in Texas, before being apprehended.

• Rafael Resendez-Ramirez, a native of Mexico, murdered nine people in Kentucky, Texas, and Illinois, before turning himself in.

• Rory Conde, a Colombian native, was responsible for six prostitute homicides in the Miami, Florida area.

Myth: Serial killers are only motivated by sex.

All serial murders are not sexually-based. There are many other motivations for serial murders including anger, thrill, financial gain, and attention seeking.

• In the Washington, D.C. area serial sniper case, John Allen Muhammad, a former U.S. Army Staff Sergeant, and Lee Boyd Malvo killed primarily for anger and thrill motivations. They were able to terrorize the greater Washington, D.C. metro area for three weeks, shooting 13 victims, killing 10 of them. They communicated with the police by leaving notes, and they attempted to extort money to stop the shootings. They are suspected in a number of other shootings in seven other states.

• Dr. Michael Swango, a former U.S. Marine, ambulance worker, and physician, was a health care employee. He was convicted of only four murders in New York and Ohio, although he is suspected of having poisoned and killed 35 to 50 people throughout the United States and on the continent of Africa. Swango’s motivation for the killings was intrinsic and never fully identified. Interestingly, Swango kept a scrap book filled with newspaper and magazine clippings about natural disasters, in which many people were killed.

• Paul Reid killed at least seven people during fast food restaurant robberies in Tennessee. After gaining control of the victims, he either stabbed or shot them. The motivation for the murders was primarily witness elimination. Reid’s purpose in committing the robberies was financial gain, and some of the ill-gotten gains were used to purchase a car.

Myth: All serial murderers travel and operate interstate.

Most serial killers have very defined geographic areas of operation. They conduct their killings within comfort zones that are often defined by an anchor point (e.g. place of residence, employment, or residence of a relative). Serial murderers will, at times, spiral their activities outside of their comfort zone, when their confidence has grown through experience or to avoid detection. Very few serial murderers travel interstate to kill.

The few serial killers who do travel interstate to kill fall into a few categories:

• Itinerant individuals who move from place to place.
• Homeless individuals who are transients.
• Individuals whose employment lends itself to interstate or transnational travel, such as truck drivers or those in military service.

The difference between these types of offenders and other serial murderers is the nature of their traveling lifestyle, which provides them with many zones of comfort in which to operate.

Myth: Serial killers cannot stop killing.

It has been widely believed that once serial killers start killing, they cannot stop. There are, however, some serial killers who stop murdering altogether before being caught. In these instances, there are events or circumstances in offenders’ lives that inhibit them from pursuing more victims. These can include increased participation in family activities, sexual substitution, and other diversions.

BTK killer, Dennis Rader, murdered ten victims from 1974 to 1991. He did not kill any other victims prior to being captured in 2005. During interviews conducted by law enforcement, Rader admitted to engaging in auto-erotic activities as a substitute for his killings.

• Jeffrey Gorton killed his first victim in 1986 and his next victim in 1991. He did not kill another victim and was captured in 2002. Gorton engaged in cross-dressing and masturbatory activities, as well as consensual sex with his wife in the interim.

Myth: All Serial killers are insane or are evil geniuses.

Another myth that exists is that serial killers have either a debilitating mental condition, or they are extremely clever and intelligent.

As a group, serial killers suffer from a variety of personality disorders, including psychopathy, anti-social personality, and others. Most, however, are not adjudicated as insane under the law.

The media has created a number of fictional serial killer “geniuses”, who outsmart law enforcement at every turn. Like other populations, however, serial killers range in intelligence from borderline to above average levels.

Myth: Serial killers want to get caught.

Offenders committing a crime for the first time are inexperienced. They gain experience and confidence with each new offense, eventually succeeding with few mistakes or problems.

While most serial killers plan their offenses more thoroughly than other criminals, the learning curve is still very steep. They must select, target, approach, control, and dispose of their victims. The logistics involved in committing a murder and disposing of the body can become very complex, especially when there are multiple sites involved.

As serial killers continue to offend without being captured, they can become empowered, feeling they will never be identified. As the series continues, the killers may begin to take shortcuts when committing their crimes. This often causes the killers to take more chances, leading to identification by law enforcement. It is not that serial killers want to get caught; they feel that they can’t get caught.

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Date: 18/10/2013 10:14:24
From: Carmen_Sandiego
ID: 415756
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

All the examples are still males though.

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Date: 18/10/2013 16:19:49
From: Tamb
ID: 415867
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

A few female serial killers: http://unknownmisandry.blogspot.com.au/2011/09/creepiest-female-serial-killers.html

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Date: 19/10/2013 05:55:27
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 416244
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

Read a real life book about serial killers once.

Apparently the best way to classify serial killers is to classify them as either “organised” or “disorganised”. An organised serial killer will plan every detail of the event in advance, and have all the equipment ready. A disorganised serial killer has no idea what they are doing or why, grabs the first implement that comes to hand, stuffs bodies in inappropriate places like closets.

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Date: 19/10/2013 09:55:21
From: Arts
ID: 416272
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

I was never aware that this ‘myth’ existed.. ever.

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Date: 19/10/2013 09:57:46
From: Michael V
ID: 416273
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

Me neither.

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Date: 19/10/2013 09:59:00
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 416274
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

“All the while, I stayed away from the pestilent Win8 and clunked along on my terminally-ill Pavilion laptop with Vista.”
Darrell Norman; Cry for Help From Behind Enemy Lines; The Gadsden Times (Alabama); Sep 13, 2013.

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Date: 19/10/2013 09:59:19
From: Divine Angel
ID: 416275
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

Arts said:


I was never aware that this ‘myth’ existed.. ever.

+1
There are several female serial killers, and not all of them are white either.

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:02:29
From: wookiemeister
ID: 416279
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

Prime Minister Tony Abbott has suggested creating a national war cemetery in Canberra to commemorate the Anzac centenary in 2015
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-10-18/tony-abbott-considers-national-war-cemetery-for-canberra/5031822

looks as if they are planning a major war of they are opening up new areas up for landfill

it worries me when they start industrialising the war dead

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:07:02
From: robadob
ID: 416281
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

have friend that is a murder cop.
can quote what he said now because its been years, but there are lots of
patterns involved with the type of people involved.

every one of them fits in to a category or pigeon hole but 1
martian Bryant from Taz
the only mass killer or serial killer that stands alone and fits no category

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:09:27
From: Arts
ID: 416283
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

robadob said:


have friend that is a murder cop.
can quote what he said now because its been years, but there are lots of
patterns involved with the type of people involved.

every one of them fits in to a category or pigeon hole but 1
martian Bryant from Taz
the only mass killer or serial killer that stands alone and fits no category

I doubt that very much…

Dr Stone puts him at level 13 Psychopathic murderers with inadequate, rageful personalities, rage being the reason of their killings.

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:10:14
From: wookiemeister
ID: 416286
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

robadob said:


have friend that is a murder cop.
can quote what he said now because its been years, but there are lots of
patterns involved with the type of people involved.

every one of them fits in to a category or pigeon hole but 1
martian Bryant from Taz
the only mass killer or serial killer that stands alone and fits no category


I always thought that he was just misunderstood

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:34:45
From: robadob
ID: 416303
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

he was 1 of the three head detectives in the Sarah Spears murder investigation for about 8 years.
the WA police brought in FBI profiles to try and help out with the case.
they had profiles on the type of people of all known mass or serial murders
all fitted in to some category but not your Taz killer.

he was stand alone as he was the only one that fitted in to none of them
i did not get this information from a book written to sell copies
but from a detective leading the biggest murder investigation in WA history

just interesting thats all

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:37:10
From: robadob
ID: 416305
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

rage being the reason of their killings.

he has no emotions including rage
so find this conclusion odd

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:40:00
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 416306
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

he has no emotions including rage

i find it hard to believe that anyone has “no emotions”.

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:42:13
From: Arts
ID: 416309
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

robadob said:

rage being the reason of their killings.

he has no emotions including rage
so find this conclusion odd


Birth name Martin Bryant
Born 7 May 1967 (age 46)
Tasmania, Australia
Penalty 35 life sentences + 1,035 years without parole
Killings
Date 28–29 April 1996
Location(s) Port Arthur, Tasmania,
Australia
Killed 35
Injured 21
Weapon(s) Colt AR-15 SP1 Carbine,
L1A1 SLR
Motive Depression and anger

wiki

read as well as gather verbal information, then make your own sense of it.

people involved with cases can become jaded too

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:43:22
From: morrie
ID: 416311
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

Arts said:


I was never aware that this ‘myth’ existed.. ever.


About 20 years ago, there was a flush of interest in serial killers and a few books on profiling were published. In those books it was noted that many serial killers were white males. It was never suggested that all serial killers were white males. Profiling is a process of assigning probabilities, after all.

Another interesting observation is that many serial killers worked in the food industry in some form. Not all of them of course, but there was a surprisingly high representation from that industry. Of course, all of this was based in the US.

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:48:09
From: robadob
ID: 416313
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

ChrispenEvan said:


he has no emotions including rage

i find it hard to believe that anyone has “no emotions”.

agree
he feels sad now for himself and quite fat to what he was.

ever seen the TV interview he gave as a teen when he blew himself up with fire works ?

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:54:22
From: Arts
ID: 416317
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

robadob said:

rage being the reason of their killings.

he has no emotions including rage
so find this conclusion odd

his childhood is peppered with outbursts and antisocial behaviour..

“In his childhood Mr Bryant was assessed on a number of occasions by psychologists and psychiatrists. He was noted soon after starting school to have both behavioral problems and learning difficulties. He was referred from the Friends School in September 1973 for assessment. He was noted to be aggressive, destructive and very difficult with other children.”

http://kildall.apana.org.au/autism/articles/bryant.html

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Date: 19/10/2013 10:55:42
From: robadob
ID: 416318
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

antisocial behaviour..
agree

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Date: 19/10/2013 11:02:46
From: Skunkworks
ID: 416322
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

morrie said:

Another interesting observation is that many serial killers worked in the food industry in some form. Not all of them of course, but there was a surprisingly high representation from that industry. Of course, all of this was based in the US.

The Granny Killer was a pie salesmen.

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Date: 19/10/2013 11:04:41
From: Skunkworks
ID: 416324
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

mollwollfumble said:


Read a real life book about serial killers once.

Apparently the best way to classify serial killers is to classify them as either “organised” or “disorganised”. An organised serial killer will plan every detail of the event in advance, and have all the equipment ready. A disorganised serial killer has no idea what they are doing or why, grabs the first implement that comes to hand, stuffs bodies in inappropriate places like closets.

A disorganised one can probably progress to being organised and the organised ones get more proficient.

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Date: 19/10/2013 11:12:37
From: wookiemeister
ID: 416329
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

robadob said:


ChrispenEvan said:

he has no emotions including rage

i find it hard to believe that anyone has “no emotions”.

agree
he feels sad now for himself and quite fat to what he was.

ever seen the TV interview he gave as a teen when he blew himself up with fire works ?


I’ve heard it on the radio

the interviewer asks him if he’d do that again and he replies probably (whereas most people would say never again!)

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Date: 19/10/2013 22:00:33
From: wookiemeister
ID: 416639
Subject: re: Myth: Serial killers are all white males

robadob said:

rage being the reason of their killings.

he has no emotions including rage
so find this conclusion odd


Yes I find that strange too

I have always found refuge in my rage, drawn myself into it, honed it, shaped it, bent it to my will harnessed as my strength if not my terrifying play thing if you will.

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