Date: 24/10/2013 02:55:06
From: Kingy
ID: 419005
Subject: Wheel Identification

I have a wheel. I have no idea what it is off. It was dug up out of the beach in Geographe Bay, WA.

My guess is a truck of some sort from approx early 1900’s.

Can anyone shed some light as to its origins?

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Date: 24/10/2013 03:06:55
From: Kingy
ID: 419006
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Not quite, but close

1915 Daimler Lanchester:

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Date: 24/10/2013 05:44:27
From: morrie
ID: 419008
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Similar to 1910 Lacre too. Most of the old trucks seem to have 8 spokes though.

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Date: 24/10/2013 13:15:43
From: Bubblecar
ID: 419214
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Yes, I’d say a lorry wheel or some kind of road maintenance vehicle etc. Too simple-looking to be a steam traction wheel.

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Date: 24/10/2013 13:54:44
From: Michael V
ID: 419234
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Kingy, lack of scale makes it very difficult to assess correctly, but I’m guessing it’s not a Caterpillar Challenger idler wheel which, remarkably, looks almost identical.

Main difference – yours has elliptical holes between the spokes, my Cat idlers have round holes. Mine is approx 355mm across, including the solid rubber tyre.

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Date: 24/10/2013 15:47:44
From: Bubblecar
ID: 419261
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

I was thinking it might be a tracked vehicle wheel.

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Date: 24/10/2013 16:58:25
From: Tejay
ID: 419303
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

http://www.alibaba.com/product-gs/1296478150/OEM_heavy_duty_agricultural_cast_iron.html

pffft…dime a dozen!

:-)

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Date: 24/10/2013 17:02:10
From: Bubblecar
ID: 419304
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Hmm looks remarkably like it, sans tyre.

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Date: 24/10/2013 17:05:18
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 419306
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Bubblecar said:


Hmm looks remarkably like it, sans tyre.

And sans bearings and holes drilled in cast for bearings.

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Date: 24/10/2013 18:20:03
From: Obviousman
ID: 419356
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Apart from a six stud arrangement, I would have said a mag wheel.

What cars had six studs?

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Date: 24/10/2013 18:22:44
From: Angus Prune
ID: 419357
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Obviousman said:


Apart from a six stud arrangement, I would have said a mag wheel.

What cars had six studs?

Big ones.

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Date: 24/10/2013 19:49:43
From: transition
ID: 419413
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Probably fairly standard sort of wheel used for a few things going back, that one appears to have possibly been in a marine environment at some time.

The rear track wheel on a stuart tank is similar I notice too.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Stuart_m5a1_cfb_borden.jpg

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Date: 24/10/2013 20:25:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 419458
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Obviousman said:


Apart from a six stud arrangement, I would have said a mag wheel.

What cars had six studs?

Tritons

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Date: 24/10/2013 22:13:34
From: morrie
ID: 419560
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Bubblecar said:


I was thinking it might be a tracked vehicle wheel.

I notice that the tyre has a distinctive wear pattern, suggestive perhaps of tracks.

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Date: 24/10/2013 22:14:49
From: roughbarked
ID: 419561
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

morrie said:


Bubblecar said:

I was thinking it might be a tracked vehicle wheel.

I notice that the tyre has a distinctive wear pattern, suggestive perhaps of tracks.

One wonders if it is part of a tank that was disposed of after the war?

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Date: 24/10/2013 23:00:13
From: roughbarked
ID: 419587
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

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Date: 24/10/2013 23:24:40
From: Bubblecar
ID: 419610
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

morrie said:


Bubblecar said:

I was thinking it might be a tracked vehicle wheel.

I notice that the tyre has a distinctive wear pattern, suggestive perhaps of tracks.

Aye. There are two grooves going on there.

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Date: 24/10/2013 23:26:45
From: roughbarked
ID: 419613
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Bubblecar said:


morrie said:

Bubblecar said:

I was thinking it might be a tracked vehicle wheel.

I notice that the tyre has a distinctive wear pattern, suggestive perhaps of tracks.

Aye. There are two grooves going on there.

Yep.

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Date: 28/10/2013 22:55:04
From: Kingy
ID: 421835
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Michael V said:


Kingy, lack of scale makes it very difficult to assess correctly, but I’m guessing it’s not a Caterpillar Challenger idler wheel which, remarkably, looks almost identical.

Main difference – yours has elliptical holes between the spokes, my Cat idlers have round holes. Mine is approx 355mm across, including the solid rubber tyre.

Just had a chance to put a tape across it. It’s exactly 3 foot diameter, and 1 foot rim width.

I was trying to make sense of it in metric, and realised that my tape measure also had imperial units :)

It also weighs at least 800kg.

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Date: 29/10/2013 00:36:29
From: roughbarked
ID: 421866
Subject: re: Wheel Identification

Kingy said:


Michael V said:

Kingy, lack of scale makes it very difficult to assess correctly, but I’m guessing it’s not a Caterpillar Challenger idler wheel which, remarkably, looks almost identical.

Main difference – yours has elliptical holes between the spokes, my Cat idlers have round holes. Mine is approx 355mm across, including the solid rubber tyre.

Just had a chance to put a tape across it. It’s exactly 3 foot diameter, and 1 foot rim width.

I was trying to make sense of it in metric, and realised that my tape measure also had imperial units :)

It also weighs at least 800kg.

That’s a seriously heavy wheel. Has to be from something powerful big. I don’t really recall and rubber tyres on drive wheels from the steam era.

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