They’re about to try to remove the fuel rods at Fukushima reactor #4
What’s the worst case scenario? I have read Tokyo may need to be evacuated, and even that the entire northern hemesphere may have to shelter indoors for a few months.
http://www.globalresearch.ca/fuel-removal-from-fukushimas-reactor-4-threatens-apocalyptic-scenario-radiation-fuel-rods-matches-fallout-of-14000-hiroshima-bombs/5355508
I’ve always wondered if it would be better if they dug under that entire facilty and entombed it
wookiemeister said:
I’ve always wondered if it would be better if they dug under that entire facilty and entombed it
It would be hard to dig under a sinking building.
Anywho said:
wookiemeister said:
I’ve always wondered if it would be better if they dug under that entire facilty and entombed it
It would be hard to dig under a sinking building.
morrie said:
Anywho said:
wookiemeister said:
I’ve always wondered if it would be better if they dug under that entire facilty and entombed it
It would be hard to dig under a sinking building.
Easy. Bore some holes, pump water, fluidize soil, enhance sinking.
Isn’t that a plan for contaminating the water table?
It appears that removing the fuel rods is a delicate operation which nobody knows if it is possible or not (depending on damage), if it goes pear shaped it is catastrophic.
They can’t do nothing because it can’t withstand an earthquake anymore.
“ I have read Tokyo may need to be evacuated, and even that the entire northern hemesphere may have to shelter indoors for a few
months.”
ROFL
dv said:
“ I have read Tokyo may need to be evacuated, and even that the entire northern hemesphere may have to shelter indoors for a few
months.”ROFL
It’s what a nuclear expert said on a TV interview re sheltering indoors, I’m picking he meant it as a safety precaution rather than “you will die if you step outside”.
Anywho said:
dv said:
“ I have read Tokyo may need to be evacuated, and even that the entire northern hemesphere may have to shelter indoors for a few
months.”ROFL
It’s what a nuclear expert said on a TV interview re sheltering indoors, I’m picking he meant it as a safety precaution rather than “you will die if you step outside”.
I’m afraid it’s still ROFL.
dv said:
Anywho said:
dv said:
“ I have read Tokyo may need to be evacuated, and even that the entire northern hemesphere may have to shelter indoors for a few
months.”ROFL
It’s what a nuclear expert said on a TV interview re sheltering indoors, I’m picking he meant it as a safety precaution rather than “you will die if you step outside”.
I’m afraid it’s still ROFL.
Fair enough, it raised my eyebrows when he said it so I posted it to test the validity of what was a seemingly outlandish claim, I’ll see if I can find his interview.
might do the northern hemisphere some good to spend some months sheltering indoors
Riff-in-Thyme said:
might do the northern hemisphere some good to spend some months sheltering indoors
Given that winter is coming.
Anywho said:
dv said:
Anywho said:It’s what a nuclear expert said on a TV interview re sheltering indoors, I’m picking he meant it as a safety precaution rather than “you will die if you step outside”.
I’m afraid it’s still ROFL.
Fair enough, it raised my eyebrows when he said it so I posted it to test the validity of what was a seemingly outlandish claim, I’ll see if I can find his interview.
It was Christina Consolo who said it on a radio interview, she is often called an alarmist but Michio Kaku, who is perhaps the most renown commentator on this issue, also takes a somewhat alarmist position in continuously saying the dangers are being downplayed.
Below is an interview with Christina Consolo on RT.
http://rt.com/news/fukushima-apocalypse-fuel-removal-598/
Michio Kaku: Japan’s integrity as a nation could be threatened;
http://m.youtube.com/watch?v=okHM-Y1-3L0
From the comments in the link.
“Michael Mann 25.08.2013 03:19
This whole article is fear mongering bunk, the rules of physics would have to change for an uncontrolled criticality to occur. Please get someone with a little understanding of the subject matter to review before publishing, you really lose any credibility when you publish such impossibly over dramatic fiction. “
Where does the truth lie?
morrie said:
From the comments in the link.“Michael Mann 25.08.2013 03:19
This whole article is fear mongering bunk, the rules of physics would have to change for an uncontrolled criticality to occur. Please get someone with a little understanding of the subject matter to review before publishing, you really lose any credibility when you publish such impossibly over dramatic fiction. “
Where does the truth lie?
The truth does not lie.
Kingy said:
morrie said:
From the comments in the link.“Michael Mann 25.08.2013 03:19
This whole article is fear mongering bunk, the rules of physics would have to change for an uncontrolled criticality to occur. Please get someone with a little understanding of the subject matter to review before publishing, you really lose any credibility when you publish such impossibly over dramatic fiction. “
Where does the truth lie?
The truth does not lie.
They are still getting aftershocks from the 9.0? Holy crap
Japan Hit By 7.3-Magnitude Earthquake Off Fukushima Prefecture Coast, Tsunami Advisory Issued
TOKYO — TOKYO (AP) — An earthquake of magnitude 7.3 struck early Saturday off Japan’s east coast, the U.S. Geological Survey said, triggering small tsunamis but causing no apparent damage.
Japan’s meteorological agency said the quake was an aftershock of the magnitude 9.0 earthquake and tsunami that struck the same area in 2011, killing about 19,000 people and devastating the Fukushima Dai-Ichi nuclear power plant.
>I have read Tokyo may need to be evacuated, and even that the entire northern hemesphere may have to shelter indoors for a few months.
Yeah I’m worried sick. Can’t sleep, get an erection, off my food, constipated, in a terrible state
transition said:
>I have read Tokyo may need to be evacuated, and even that the entire northern hemesphere may have to shelter indoors for a few months.Yeah I’m worried sick. Can’t sleep, get an erection, off my food, constipated, in a terrible state
It’s easy to be dismissive of the seriousness from here, but if you were in northern Japan and if you had kids, or pregnant, maybe you would be worried sick about the consequences of Fukushima going critical.
If reactor #4 forces an evacuation then other reactors will go critical as well.
If you were in northern Japan chances are you would, for good reason, be “off your food”, or at least be worried about contamination levels.
they should have never built a nuclear power station so close to the shore – knowing that tsunamis are a part of life in japan
nuclear power in its present form is too unpredictable – throw in self interest, profit making and the incompetence of upper management found in every business and you have a recipe for disaster – no nuclear powerstation should ever be run by private enterprise – only the state should run such facilities.
nuclear power is only good for subs and spacecraft
wookiemeister said:
they should have never built a nuclear power station so close to the shore – knowing that tsunamis are a part of life in japan
but then the staff wouldn’t have had the peaceful scenery!
wookiemeister said:
they should have never built a nuclear power station so close to the shore – knowing that tsunamis are a part of life in japan
They built it with a 7 m high sea wall as defence against tsunamis.
… only proble was they copped an 11 m one.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_I_Nuclear_Power_Plant
Warnings and design critiqueIn 1990, the U.S. Nuclear Regulatory Commission (NRC) ranked the failure of the emergency electricity generators and subsequent failure of the cooling systems of plants in seismically very active regions one of the most likely risks. The Japanese Nuclear and Industrial Safety Agency (NISA) cited this report in 2004. According to Jun Tateno, a former NISA scientist, TEPCO did not react to these warnings and did not respond with any measures.
Filmmaker Adam Curtis mentioned the risks of the type of boiling water reactors cooling systems such as those in Fukushima I, and claimed the risks were known since 1971 in a series of documentaries in the BBC in 1992 and advised that PWR type reactors should have been used.
Fukushima had been warned their seawall was insufficient to withstand a powerful tsunami, but the seawall was not heightened raised in response.
>It’s easy to be dismissive of the seriousness from here, but if you were in northern Japan and if you had kids, or pregnant, maybe you would be worried sick about the consequences of Fukushima going critical.
Agreed, let me have my mood.
According to this news article there are approx 1,500 rods in unit 4, containing 10 times the amount of caesium 137 as at Chernobyl.
There are also six other reactors and over 6,000 rods in a common storage pool, all are in danger if Fukushima has to be evacuated (sorry, 5 other reactors, can’t edit on my iPad)
Perhaps the most dangerous engineering feat ever attempted will be the upcoming removal of rods from unit 4, and not too many people have faith in TEPCO at all.
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1340687/fukushima-nuclear-plant-operators-prepare-dangerous-procedure
This could make Chernobyl look like 3 mile island.
Anywho said:
According to this news article there are approx 1,500 rods in unit 4, containing 10 times the amount of caesium 137 as at Chernobyl.There are also six other reactors and over 6,000 rods in a common storage pool, all are in danger if Fukushima has to be evacuated (sorry, 5 other reactors, can’t edit on my iPad)
Perhaps the most dangerous engineering feat ever attempted will be the upcoming removal of rods from unit 4, and not too many people have faith in TEPCO at all.
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1340687/fukushima-nuclear-plant-operators-prepare-dangerous-procedure
This could make Chernobyl look like 3 mile island.
OMG, the death toll could be thousand, nay millions, of times that of Three Mile Island.
sibeen said:
Anywho said:
According to this news article there are approx 1,500 rods in unit 4, containing 10 times the amount of caesium 137 as at Chernobyl.There are also six other reactors and over 6,000 rods in a common storage pool, all are in danger if Fukushima has to be evacuated (sorry, 5 other reactors, can’t edit on my iPad)
Perhaps the most dangerous engineering feat ever attempted will be the upcoming removal of rods from unit 4, and not too many people have faith in TEPCO at all.
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1340687/fukushima-nuclear-plant-operators-prepare-dangerous-procedure
This could make Chernobyl look like 3 mile island.
OMG, the death toll could be thousand, nay millions, of times that of Three Mile Island.
Sounds like a job for wookiemeister…
PM 2Ring said:
sibeen said:
Anywho said:
According to this news article there are approx 1,500 rods in unit 4, containing 10 times the amount of caesium 137 as at Chernobyl.There are also six other reactors and over 6,000 rods in a common storage pool, all are in danger if Fukushima has to be evacuated (sorry, 5 other reactors, can’t edit on my iPad)
Perhaps the most dangerous engineering feat ever attempted will be the upcoming removal of rods from unit 4, and not too many people have faith in TEPCO at all.
http://www.scmp.com/news/asia/article/1340687/fukushima-nuclear-plant-operators-prepare-dangerous-procedure
This could make Chernobyl look like 3 mile island.
OMG, the death toll could be thousand, nay millions, of times that of Three Mile Island.
Sounds like a job for wookiemeister…
i’m easy breezy
Apricot kernels stat.
This is an abomination, TEPCO, a company that has a proven track record of dishonesty and incompetence, is about to attempt the manual removal of fuel rods from the crippled #4 reactor, this is perhaps the most dangerous and important engineering task since the entombment of Chernobyl, with possible consequences that could eclipse Chernobyl.
Because the full extent of the damaged inside reactor 4 is not known, the removal of the rods is fraught with danger, it may not even be possible to remove them.
Now it is reported that TEPCO has been using indentured (slave) labour at Fukushima supplied by organised crime syndicates, no surprise that these workers have insufficient training and protective gear. TEPCO CANNOT BE TRUSTED TO EMPLOY WORLDS BEST PRACTICE AT FUKUSHIMA.
http://voiceofrussia.com/2013_10_27/Nuclear-slaves-discovered-at-Fukushima-4129/
The Japanese government should take over, do what the Russians did and bring in the military, they should also assemble a team of the top international experts to advise them.
Governments around the world should pressure the Japanese government to take over, the pretence that everything is under control at Fukushima is a very negligent and dangerous position to take.
we can neither buy off, intimidate nor shame the environment into maintaining a balance that supports us.