This weeks Four Corners was on bushfires in Australia and the electrical industry. It may come as a surprise to some (sic) but Voltcommissioner (Michael Gunter) was represented on the show.
http://www.abc.net.au/4corners/stories/2013/10/28/3876333.htm
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how come I can never get on the tv?
Too modest.
wookiemeister said:
how come I can never get on the tv?
Hey you’re lucky not to be locked up! Count your blessings.
Did I type that out loud?
wookiemeister said:
how come I can never get on the tv?
I think I’ve seen you on the History channel
maybe one day there will be a big expose on wookiemeister
i’ll have to settle for being famous on the holiday forum channel
aka
channel wookiemeister
Aquila said:
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Voltcommissioner used to bang on about it just a little bit :)
sibeen said:
Aquila said:
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Voltcommissioner used to bang on about it just a little bit :)
Yea, I thought he was a little nuts eh, but look, he’s ABC legit…
wookiemeister said:
how come I can never get on the tv?
Dunno. I’ve been on TV lots of times.
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
how come I can never get on the tv?
Dunno. I’ve been on TV lots of times.
Crimestoppers?
:-)
Witty Rejoinder said:
roughbarked said:
wookiemeister said:
how come I can never get on the tv?
Dunno. I’ve been on TV lots of times.
Crimestoppers?
:-)
I think the first time was singing in the police boys club choir.
I’ve never been on TV.
Unless you count that business with the hostages…
captain_spalding said:
I’ve never been on TV.Unless you count that business with the hostages…
loved the bit about fire fighting drones
sibeen said:
Aquila said:
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Voltcommissioner used to bang on about it just a little bit :)
IIRC, he mentioned that he’d separated from his wife because she was sick of his obsession with this issue… unless I’m getting him mixed up with another old SSSFer.
PM 2Ring said:
IIRC, he mentioned that he’d separated from his wife because she was sick of his obsession with this issue…
The issue of powerlines causing bushfires?
Not sure about that, PM. I must admit the first I’ve heard about it.
He certainly had some strange ideas about lecticity on the old forum. That’s not to say that he was incorrect about the cause of some of the fires on black saturday.
Witty Rejoinder said:
PM 2Ring said:IIRC, he mentioned that he’d separated from his wife because she was sick of his obsession with this issue…
The issue of powerlines causing bushfires?
sibeen said:
That’s not to say that he was incorrect about the cause of some of the fires on black saturday.
all powerlines should be underground – period (unless there is a very very good reason)
half a meter underground is the coolest place for underground lines
they can’t start fires, they can’t be felled by trees, they are protected by the earth against most things
they don’t like putting power underground because its “expensive”, yet can afford to march around the world for the pure sacrifice of bringing “democracy” to people.
I wonder if 7 billion dollars could have been better spent on putting power underground instead of paying for another war in a place that no one cares about?
see you here for the next fire
if you build above ground powerlines through bushfire prone country then its a given that they will start a fire.
give it another few decades and everyone will have forgotten what happened and so end game begins.
don’t bother trying to convince people or anything else, you are wasting your time. if people want to get killed in the meantime thats own their own head for voting in a government that hates them.
it is a lie that they don’t have any money to put powerlines underground. the government is spending $38,000,000 on tv adverts alone to tell us about a mining tax. god knows how much money they’ve wasted trying to push through the carbon tax that flopped.
the two cancers that consume society are a bad government and a bad legal system. the fires are only one manifestation of the outcome. you only need to watch any national/ local news to know of the outcome.. it might be some guy running around for years infecting women with aids or people running around stabbing people to death and being out on the street a few weeks later (because the government can’t raise taxes from these kinds of people. as the years go by they create more and more sophisticated systems to catch speeding motorists yet criminal activity explodes.
the fact is that more people are going to die it is inevitable, the best thing you can do is not to vote for stupid people who hate you. nixon probably has some dirt on the politicians hence the whole thing will dissipate and the whole episode will go away.
another way to look at it is this…
you have no responsibility to people who have harmed themselves by voting in a bad government.
ultimately, whatever you do, you do to yourself.
http://tools.scribblygumwiki.net/thread_cache.php?thread=459961
To be fair, Voltscommissar wasn’t as bad as wookiemeister.
EVERY set-top box delivered under Labor’s digital TV rollout could be costing the taxpayer an average of $698 — almost double the government’s original estimate, more than 30 times the cost of a box bought at a department store and far more expensive than a new 106cm flatscreen TV. The scheme, which was initially funded with $69.5 million in the 2009-10 federal budget before receiving a further $309m last year, is aimed at pensioners and the disabled, who the government says are unable to buy and install their own set-top boxes to receive digital TV signals. Eligible households must be receiving one of five welfare payments at the full rate to qualify for a free box. – See more at: http://www.theaustralian.com.au/national-affairs/as-seen-on-tv-the-700-set-top-box-from-labor/story-fn59niix-1226271235752#sthash.8AgQj10E.dpuf
we couldn’t possibly afford to put power underground
PM 2Ring said:
To be fair, Voltscommissar wasn’t as bad as wookiemeister.
unlike the volts I don’t get involved with politics or the like and more or less keep to my self attracting as little attention as possible
Is there a summary for those of us who can’t sit down and watch a 45 minute episode right now?
party_pants said:
Is there a summary for those of us who can’t sit down and watch a 45 minute episode right now?
party_pants said:
Is there a summary for those of us who can’t sit down and watch a 45 minute episode right now?
I tackled Volty several times on this issue, and was always worried by his apparent inability to incorporate new facts into his thinking.
It’s easy to demonstrate that the heatwave that gives rise to the bushfire causes three times more fatalities than the fire; that heatwave outweighs all other causes of death by natural disaster (in Australia) combined; that thereby the single most important function an emergency service could ever perform is community education; That in any instance of broad-scale heat-wave fire he might care to consider, the entire emergency medical community was completely over-whelmed by the heat-stroke patients; that turning off the electricity will shut down all cooling systems that need it to run.
But Volty would have none of that.
Rule 303 said:
It’s easy to demonstrate that the heatwave that gives rise to the bushfire causes three times more fatalities than the fire
Could you proceed then?
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I thought that the thrust of the 4 Corners piece was that the selective turning off of segments of the grid in catastrophic fire weather was working well in SA and that this fact along volty’s evidence and the royal commission’s had the guy in charge of electricity distribution in Victoria looking very uneasy when trying to justify his stance (hidden under a large rock for preference).
Ian said:
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and the royal commission’s had the guy in charge of electricity distribution in Victoria looking very uneasy when trying to justify his stance (hidden under a large rock for preference).
Point of order.
He was the head pf Electrical Safe Victoria (ESV) not in charge of electrical distribution.
sibeen said:
Ian said:.
and the royal commission’s had the guy in charge of electricity distribution in Victoria looking very uneasy when trying to justify his stance (hidden under a large rock for preference).Point of order.
He was the head pf Electrical Safe Victoria (ESV) not in charge of electrical distribution.
another point of order. It was about poor maintenance of power poles and lines that was the contributor to sparking the fires.
In my part of the world this led to a change away from simply pruning trees under power lines to mulching everything within cooee of the lines and burying it in the earth.
In older times the power lines had a 20 metre buffer zone either side of the power lines that was to be devoid of trees. However the trees and shrubs are necessary to out compete the establishment of annual grasses.
>>It was about poor maintenance of power poles and lines that was the contributor to sparking the fires.
Yes. But I thought that it went well beyond that to the need for an upgraded system (or turning it off selectively until such an upgrade).
Ian said:
>>It was about poor maintenance of power poles and lines that was the contributor to sparking the fires.Yes. But I thought that it went well beyond that to the need for an upgraded system (or turning it off selectively until such an upgrade).
The reality would be that the selective sections should have at least two things. The first being regular inspections to assess the current risks and notify. The second would be to have fail-safe circuit breakers that automatically cut off sections at the first spark.
wookiemeister said:
how come I can never get on the tv?
My brother & I were on tv a lot during the last round of bushfires. He even made it to the ch 7 news promo reel.
Aha, just watching it now.
bugger the dramatic music – I missed the reason why the guy was carrying a shotgun.
Fred wrong..