THIS THREAD WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT EUCALYPTS!!!

The term “eucalypt” is used to refer to a number of related genera of plants native to Australiasia, including but certainly not restricted to Eucalyptus.

:-O

IKR

When someone says “eucalypt” they could be talking about Allosyncarpia ternata or even Stockwellia quadrifida. I don’t like to use the term “con” but I’m just saying you’d be well advised to ask probing questions.

They are typified by seeds protected by fire-resistant capsules.

But hang on … not finished yet. The monophyly of the group know as “the eucalypts” has not been firmly established!

dv said:

THIS THREAD WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT EUCALYPTS!!!

The term “eucalypt” is used to refer to a number of related genera of plants native to Australiasia, including but certainly not restricted to Eucalyptus.

:-O

IKR

When someone says “eucalypt” they could be talking about Allosyncarpia ternata or even Stockwellia quadrifida. I don’t like to use the term “con” but I’m just saying you’d be well advised to ask probing questions.

They are typified by seeds protected by fire-resistant capsules.

But hang on … not finished yet. The monophyly of the group know as “the eucalypts” has not been firmly established!

Eucalypt is a descriptive name for woody plants with capsule fruiting bodies belonging to seven closely related genera found across Australasia: Eucalyptus, Corymbia, Angophora, Stockwellia, Allosyncarpia, Eucalyptopsis and Arillastrum.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalypt

In other news…

Of these genera, most of endemic to Australia.

The exceptions are Eucalyptopsis (found in New Guinea and some islands to its west), Arillastrum (found in New Caledonia) and of course Eucalyptus.

Various Eucalyptus species are found throughout the Australian mainland, Tasmania, New Guinea, New Britain, Sulawesi (Celebes are oldies might call it), Timor, Bali, and other islands of eastern Indonesia.

One species is found on Mindanao. This is the Rainbow gum, which is the only member of Eucalyptus (and indeed the only eucalypt) that grows naturally in the northern hemisphere.

dv said:

THIS THREAD WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT EUCALYPTS!!!

Waiting for destruction………………………

http://www.anbg.gov.au/cpbr/cd-keys/euclid3/euclidsample/html/evolutionary_rships.htm

feel free to get your copy of the Lucid interactive key, Euclid. There’s some recent bugs with java updates that could cause some problems with running the lucid software on your machine, but you’ll have hours, simply hours, of fun scraping away a waxy cuticle to peer at oil grands.or availing yourself to gauging fruit shape.

cheers, neom

This Eucalypt/us stuff obviously needs clarifying by someone(else) –

Wiki contradicts itself…

“Recently, genetic work has been published showing Angophora to be more closely related to Eucalyptus than Corymbia, and the name Eucalyptus angustata has been proposed for this species if it were to be placed in the eucalypt genus.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angophora_bakeri

Versus

“Eucalypt is a descriptive name for woody plants with capsule fruiting bodies belonging to seven closely related genera found across Australasia: Eucalyptus, Corymbia, Angophora, Stockwellia, Allosyncarpia, Eucalyptopsis and Arillastrum.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalypt

AND

A Eucalypt is a gum tree but a gum tree is not necessarily a Eucalypt.

hmmm

Ian said:

This Eucalypt/us stuff obviously needs clarifying by someone(else) –

Wiki contradicts itself…

“Recently, genetic work has been published showing Angophora to be more closely related to Eucalyptus than Corymbia, and the name Eucalyptus angustata has been proposed for this species if it were to be placed in the eucalypt genus.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angophora_bakeri

Versus

“Eucalypt is a descriptive name for woody plants with capsule fruiting bodies belonging to seven closely related genera found across Australasia: Eucalyptus, Corymbia, Angophora, Stockwellia, Allosyncarpia, Eucalyptopsis and Arillastrum.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalypt

AND

A Eucalypt is a gum tree but a gum tree is not necessarily a Eucalypt.

hmmm

Eucalypt is not a genus, but a general description for a group of trees with certain properties. Eucalyptus however is a genus.

PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

This Eucalypt/us stuff obviously needs clarifying by someone(else) –

Wiki contradicts itself…

“Recently, genetic work has been published showing Angophora to be more closely related to Eucalyptus than Corymbia, and the name Eucalyptus angustata has been proposed for this species if it were to be placed in the eucalypt genus.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angophora_bakeri

Versus

“Eucalypt is a descriptive name for woody plants with capsule fruiting bodies belonging to seven closely related genera found across Australasia: Eucalyptus, Corymbia, Angophora, Stockwellia, Allosyncarpia, Eucalyptopsis and Arillastrum.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalypt

AND

A Eucalypt is a gum tree but a gum tree is not necessarily a Eucalypt.

hmmm

Eucalypt is not a genus, but a general description for a group of trees with certain properties. Eucalyptus however is a genus.

Yeah, we agree on that.. at least going on Wikipedia’s definition.

However…

>>for this species if it were to be placed in the eucalypt genus.

Ian said:

A Eucalypt is a gum tree but a gum tree is not necessarily a Eucalypt.

hmmm

Makes a lot of sense if you say it this way; A Eucalypt is not necessarily a gum tree and a gum tree is not necessarily a Eucalypt.

Ian said:

PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

This Eucalypt/us stuff obviously needs clarifying by someone(else) –

Wiki contradicts itself…

“Recently, genetic work has been published showing Angophora to be more closely related to Eucalyptus than Corymbia, and the name Eucalyptus angustata has been proposed for this species if it were to be placed in the eucalypt genus.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Angophora_bakeri

Versus

“Eucalypt is a descriptive name for woody plants with capsule fruiting bodies belonging to seven closely related genera found across Australasia: Eucalyptus, Corymbia, Angophora, Stockwellia, Allosyncarpia, Eucalyptopsis and Arillastrum.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalypt

AND

A Eucalypt is a gum tree but a gum tree is not necessarily a Eucalypt.

hmmm

Eucalypt is not a genus, but a general description for a group of trees with certain properties. Eucalyptus however is a genus.

Yeah, we agree on that.. at least going on Wikipedia’s definition.

However…

>>for this species if it were to be placed in the eucalypt genus.

Someone in Wikipedia goofed.

PermeateFree said:

Ian said:

PermeateFree said:

Eucalypt is not a genus, but a general description for a group of trees with certain properties. Eucalyptus however is a genus.

Yeah, we agree on that.. at least going on Wikipedia’s definition.

However…

>>for this species if it were to be placed in the eucalypt genus.

Someone in Wikipedia goofed.

Wouldn’t be the first time. However somebody can also repair the sentence.

Darren said:

THIS THREAD WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT EUCALYPTS!!!

The term “eucalypt” is used to refer to a number of related genera of plants native to Australiasia, including but certainly not restricted to Eucalyptus.

:-O

IKR

ERMAGERD

Darren said:

When someone says “eucalypt” they could be talking about Allosyncarpia ternata or even Stockwellia quadrifida. I don’t like to use the term “con” but I’m just saying you’d be well advised to ask probing questions.

They are typified by seeds protected by fire-resistant capsules.

But hang on … not finished yet. The monophyly of the group know as “the eucalypts” has not been firmly established!

FMD

http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=ermagerd

OCDC said:

Darren said:

THIS THREAD WILL COMPLETELY DESTROY EVERYTHING YOU THOUGHT YOU KNEW ABOUT EUCALYPTS!!!

The term “eucalypt” is used to refer to a number of related genera of plants native to Australiasia, including but certainly not restricted to Eucalyptus.

:-O

IKR

ERMAGERD

Darren said:

When someone says “eucalypt” they could be talking about Allosyncarpia ternata or even Stockwellia quadrifida. I don’t like to use the term “con” but I’m just saying you’d be well advised to ask probing questions.

They are typified by seeds protected by fire-resistant capsules.

But hang on … not finished yet. The monophyly of the group know as “the eucalypts” has not been firmly established!

FMD

“Eucalypt is a descriptive name for woody plants with capsule fruiting bodies belonging to seven closely related genera found across Australasia: Eucalyptus, Corymbia, Angophora, Stockwellia, Allosyncarpia, Eucalyptopsis and Arillastrum.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalypt

PermeateFree said:

“Eucalypt is a descriptive name for woody plants with capsule fruiting bodies belonging to seven closely related genera found across Australasia: Eucalyptus, Corymbia, Angophora, Stockwellia, Allosyncarpia, Eucalyptopsis and Arillastrum.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalypt

On the other hand, Eucalyptus = well covered.

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

“Eucalypt is a descriptive name for woody plants with capsule fruiting bodies belonging to seven closely related genera found across Australasia: Eucalyptus, Corymbia, Angophora, Stockwellia, Allosyncarpia, Eucalyptopsis and Arillastrum.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalypt

On the other hand, Eucalyptus = well covered.

But we are looking at why plants in Eucalypts are grouped together. Plants grouped together in the Eucalyptus genus are further defined and not necessarily similar to others within the Eucalypt group.

You could lump all the flat-weeds together with certain characteristics, which is just as viable a term as eucalypts. It is a useful general term, but is not a botanical classification term.

PermeateFree said:

roughbarked said:

PermeateFree said:

“Eucalypt is a descriptive name for woody plants with capsule fruiting bodies belonging to seven closely related genera found across Australasia: Eucalyptus, Corymbia, Angophora, Stockwellia, Allosyncarpia, Eucalyptopsis and Arillastrum.”

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eucalypt

On the other hand, Eucalyptus = well covered.

But we are looking at why plants in Eucalypts are grouped together. Plants grouped together in the Eucalyptus genus are further defined and not necessarily similar to others within the Eucalypt group.

You could lump all the flat-weeds together with certain characteristics, which is just as viable a term as eucalypts. It is a useful general term, but is not a botanical classification term.

All good then. Just making sure that there are clear definitions.

Who’s darren?

Michael V said:

Who’s darren?

DV.

No he’s not. Not that I know anyway.

I love a sunburnt gumtree.

A land of sweeping planes.

sibeen said:

A land of sweeping planes.

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