Date: 7/11/2013 13:46:55
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 426825
Subject: Arafat and Polonium

They have found higher than expected amounts of Polonium 210 in Arafat’s bones, however on reading the somewhat hand waving article the amount they expected to find was only a guess anyway.
They also found some Lead 210, not sure how that fits in, I know uranium decays to lead but have forgotten all my half life stuff.
Polonium has a half life of 4 months, Arafat’s been dead 10 years.
Not sure if that is significant.
Anyway youse chaps and chapetts who have recently studied this stuff will probably make sense of it.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-24838061

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Date: 7/11/2013 14:03:54
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 426832
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Yeah – make my words. It’s the work of Teh MosSad.

Teh Wooookster will be in to dominate the forum ad nauseam this evening with a special edition teh WOOkster report.

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Date: 7/11/2013 15:17:39
From: wookiemeister
ID: 426918
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

To be honest Arafat was a chain smoker the polonium 210 was most likely from smoking himself to death

Mossad tend to use faster acting agents to kill people at home and abroad, pistols, poisons , accidents and suffocation seem to be their trademark.

They didn’t need to do anything anyway Arafat was already doing it to himself

Rabin was killed by the pistol of an assassin that just breezed past a phalanx of security, they just got rid of him when he was of no longer of any use. No one talks about Rabin very much these days.

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Date: 7/11/2013 15:24:26
From: party_pants
ID: 426923
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

I’m calling it as an inside job. Arafat was corrupt and used his office to accumulate great personal wealth at the expense of the people he was supposedly serving.

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Date: 7/11/2013 15:29:06
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 426928
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

>>To be honest Arafat was a chain smoker the polonium 210 was most likely from smoking himself to death

The article mentioned passive smoking, maybe his wife smoked a lot.

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Date: 7/11/2013 17:21:10
From: Anywho
ID: 427012
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Israel and Mossad think they’re omnipotent and they can commit any war crime, crime against humanity, break international law, and kill whoever they want.

And, currently, the Zionist belief in their superiority over others has a ring of truth to it, mainly due to the Israel lobby’s domination of the US senate and control over western media.

Arafat died at a time of tension, when Israel had a particularly nasty and aggressive PM in Ariel Sharon, not that Netanyahu is any better, the smart money is on Mossad.

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Date: 7/11/2013 17:38:12
From: Neophyte
ID: 427056
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

“polonium”

In South Australia they call it fritzium.

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Date: 7/11/2013 17:45:15
From: JudgeMental
ID: 427069
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

In South Australia they call it fritzium.

that’s baloney!

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Date: 7/11/2013 17:51:38
From: gaghalfrunt
ID: 427078
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

“ Arafat was corrupt and used his office to accumulate great personal wealth at the expense of the people he was supposedly serving.”

Really??? Well I never!

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Date: 7/11/2013 18:37:38
From: neomyrtus_
ID: 427110
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Neophyte said:


“polonium”

In South Australia they call it fritzium.

or devonium

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Date: 7/11/2013 19:28:13
From: dv
ID: 427146
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

I approve of the fritzium joke, please forward me your paypal details.

BTW this was the article I saw:
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-07/tests-palestinian-yasser-arafat-poisoned-radioactive-polonium/5075086
“Ex-Palestinian leader Yasser Arafat may have been poisoned with radioactive polonium, tests show”

It would have been even more alarming if he had been poisoned with non-radioactive polonium.

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:27:47
From: wookiemeister
ID: 427161
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Tobacco plants appear to neatly absorb the element from air and soil. In addition, tobacco growers have frequently relied on fertilizers enriched with phosphate by the mineral apatite, which often comes in tandem with radium, (Ra), an element known to decay to polonium-210. U.S. tobacco companies have known this since the 1950s; an industry study done in the 1960s showed, for instance, that filters do not remove radioactivity from tobacco smoke. As documents released through legal settlements showed, tobacco companies managed to conceal this risk from the public until the 1990s.

And risk is definitely the right word here. For a heavy smoker — say one smoking a pack-and-a-half of cigarettes a day — some studies estimate that the radiation exposure is equivalent to 300 chest X-rays a year. There are also scientists who believe that polonium-210 is the primary risk factor for lung cancer in smokers — not to mention low-level radiation sickness. It’s thus not surprising that after the poison was discovered on Arafat’s clothes, questions were raised about whether this could be just be evidence of cigarette exposure. After all, the Palestinian leader and many of his colleagues were known to be smokers
http://www.wired.com/wiredscience/2012/12/yassar-arafat-and-the-radioactive-cigarette/

I’ve seen Arafat smoking in some doco as well

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:28:44
From: wookiemeister
ID: 427162
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

unfortunately cigarettes kill people all the time.

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:34:28
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 427164
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

I’ve often thought there’s a market for organic tobacco for health conscious smokers.

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:36:03
From: wookiemeister
ID: 427165
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Peak Warming Man said:


I’ve often thought there’s a market for organic tobacco for health conscious smokers.

they’d be better off with e cigarettes

we are going to buy some relatives e cigarettes for Christmas, the longer you suck down smoke the more likely you’ll wind up dead.

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:36:36
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 427166
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Peak Warming Man said:


I’ve often thought there’s a market for organic tobacco for health conscious smokers.

I think tobacco has too many pests to be grown organically.

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:38:03
From: morrie
ID: 427167
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Skeptic Pete said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve often thought there’s a market for organic tobacco for health conscious smokers.

I think tobacco has too many pests to be grown organically.


I don’t.

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:51:37
From: Fee
ID: 427171
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

morrie said:


Skeptic Pete said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve often thought there’s a market for organic tobacco for health conscious smokers.

I think tobacco has too many pests to be grown organically.


I don’t.

I agree – so wish I could grow my own. But aren’t tobacco plants illegal now, I seem to recall someone telling me that.

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:53:17
From: poikilotherm
ID: 427173
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Fee said:


morrie said:

Skeptic Pete said:

I think tobacco has too many pests to be grown organically.


I don’t.

I agree – so wish I could grow my own. But aren’t tobacco plants illegal now, I seem to recall someone telling me that.

It’s illegal to grow them without the proper licencing etc.

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:54:35
From: JudgeMental
ID: 427175
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

grow the australian pituri(sp), ‘sposed to be good gear.

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:55:41
From: Fee
ID: 427178
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

poikilotherm said:


Fee said:

morrie said:

I don’t.

I agree – so wish I could grow my own. But aren’t tobacco plants illegal now, I seem to recall someone telling me that.

It’s illegal to grow them without the proper licencing etc.

ah, so the govt still gets their cut – fair enough. I just think it would be nice to know what goes into one’s cigarettes. The ads use to say they had rat poison in them, and if that is the case, who put it in there?

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Date: 7/11/2013 20:59:55
From: JudgeMental
ID: 427179
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

could be hydrogen cyanide. got to remember that there are all sorts of chemicals in them but whether they on their own pose a risk is another matter. you have to know the quantities i guess.

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Date: 7/11/2013 21:00:09
From: Fee
ID: 427180
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

JudgeMental said:


grow the australian pituri(sp), ‘sposed to be good gear.

Just looked it up and yeh but no…I am thinking I am already dangerous enough without adding something like that to my system. Think I will stick to tobacco and being high on life

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Date: 7/11/2013 21:01:11
From: JudgeMental
ID: 427181
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

yeah, i wasn’t serious.

:-)

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Date: 7/11/2013 21:01:34
From: morrie
ID: 427182
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

JudgeMental said:


grow the australian pituri(sp), ‘sposed to be good gear.

Need to be very careful with that. There is a range of compositions in the wild plant population, involving different ratios of nicotine to (poisonous) nor-nicotine. I am not sure if it is just different races or if it is different environments, but you could end up poisoning yourself.

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Date: 7/11/2013 21:04:29
From: Fee
ID: 427183
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

JudgeMental said:


yeah, i wasn’t serious.

:-)

I knew that ;)

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Date: 7/11/2013 21:27:51
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 427194
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Skeptic Pete said:


Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve often thought there’s a market for organic tobacco for health conscious smokers.

I think tobacco has too many pests to be grown organically.

Well pests aside, there’s still a lot of chemicals used.

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Date: 7/11/2013 21:31:53
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 427197
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Peak Warming Man said:


Skeptic Pete said:

Peak Warming Man said:

I’ve often thought there’s a market for organic tobacco for health conscious smokers.

I think tobacco has too many pests to be grown organically.

Well pests aside, there’s still a lot of chemicals used.

I’ve known people to grow it themselves. I don’t recall their mentioning pest control.

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Date: 7/11/2013 21:33:11
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 427198
Subject: re: Arafat and Polonium

Processing and packaging it might be a different issue

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