Date: 8/11/2013 08:50:07
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 427418
Subject: Wild About Saffron

Some people are just wild about Saffron and it’s magical cure for macular degeneration.
I was just listening to a chap on the blind peoples radio about it and the good news is you can buy it in Australia, from him.

Anyway a quick google found conflicting reports.

The Macular Foundation is having none of it.
http://www.mdfoundation.com.au/page12203441.aspx

However Saffrondust quotes an ABC programme to support the claim.
http://www.saffrondust.com.au/saffron-and-age-related-macular-degeneration/#.UnwKK9B—Uk

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Date: 8/11/2013 08:52:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 427419
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

opal dust would be about as useful. At least one would experience a flash of colour.

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Date: 8/11/2013 08:57:18
From: roughbarked
ID: 427420
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Thing is, the ABC is unbiased enough to have a religion section spouting garbage too.

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Date: 8/11/2013 09:07:31
From: roughbarked
ID: 427421
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Opal is thought to have been discovered as long as 4,000 years ago, and myths and lore abound in practically all cultures about this brilliant gemstone. The ancient Greeks thought opal to be the tears of Zeus and prized it as highly as diamonds. They believed opal gave the gift of foresight and prophecy, which would ensure the owner’s success in war, business and life.

The legend of the Australian aborigine tells that opal is ‘creator’s footprint that touched the earth at the base of a rainbow to bring harmony’.

The ancient Romans wore opal as a symbol of hope and purity and believed it could cure illness. In ancient India, opal was referred to as the Goddess of the Rainbow, turned to stone. Ancient Arab cultures believed opal had fallen from the sky and that the play of color was trapped lightning. According to Arab lore, opal could make the wearer invisible. The ancient Australian aborigines, however, believed in a more sinister origin. They thought opal to be half serpent and half devil, and that the brightly colored fire within the stone was an attempt to lure them into the devil’s lair.

Opal has been thought to have healing powers in many world cultures, and in the middle ages, it became known as the Opthalmius, or Eye Stone, and was thought to strengthen eyesight. Blonde maidens wore opals to protect their hair from fading or darkening.

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Date: 8/11/2013 09:15:36
From: buffy
ID: 427423
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

It’s quite a big maybe on that one…..

http://www.drugs.com/npp/saffron.html

I expect it’s another money making thing that will sink without trace.

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Date: 8/11/2013 09:18:01
From: poikilotherm
ID: 427425
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

buffy said:

It’s quite a big maybe on that one…..

http://www.drugs.com/npp/saffron.html

I expect it’s another money making thing that will sink without trace.

A little like *acuvision et al…oh…wait…

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Date: 8/11/2013 09:20:01
From: roughbarked
ID: 427426
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Anyway.. wouldn’t carrots have more beta-carotene?

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Date: 8/11/2013 10:43:53
From: buffy
ID: 427435
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

I don’t recommend anti-oxidant supplements to my patients poik. The research actually says….it might be useful if you already have moderate degeneration. It is not prophylactic.

I do recommend good eating…..a colourful plate of veggies.

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Date: 8/11/2013 10:45:32
From: roughbarked
ID: 427437
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

buffy said:

I do recommend good eating…..a colourful plate of veggies.

It is what should happen from early years onwards. Difficult to make eyes go back to better health than the health they are given.

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Date: 8/11/2013 10:48:47
From: poikilotherm
ID: 427439
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

buffy said:

I don’t recommend anti-oxidant supplements to my patients poik. The research actually says….it might be useful if you already have moderate degeneration. It is not prophylactic.

I do recommend good eating…..a colourful plate of veggies.

I presumed so, I was fishing :).

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Date: 8/11/2013 10:53:11
From: buffy
ID: 427442
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

I did see the hook.

I also really, really hate it when people try to ‘sell’ these things to me on the basis that I will make more money by selling them to my patients. Contact lens companies do it too. I know it sounds all high and mighty, but really, I do what is best for my patients. I am not going to recommend supplements for the hell of it, or to make extra money.

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Date: 8/11/2013 10:55:10
From: roughbarked
ID: 427445
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

buffy said:

I did see the hook.

I also really, really hate it when people try to ‘sell’ these things to me on the basis that I will make more money by selling them to my patients. Contact lens companies do it too. I know it sounds all high and mighty, but really, I do what is best for my patients. I am not going to recommend supplements for the hell of it, or to make extra money.

It is a shame there aren’t more like you, buffy.
I see mainly chemists and some optometrists with a range of goods that are clearly there only to keep up the cash flow.

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Date: 8/11/2013 12:55:22
From: PermeateFree
ID: 427503
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Opal is also regarded as bringing bad luck.

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Date: 8/11/2013 13:04:09
From: Wocky
ID: 427508
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

PermeateFree said:


Opal is also regarded as bringing bad luck.

That stems from a book by Sir Walter Scott, Anne of Geierstein (1829); the heroine (Anne) wears an opal with supernatural powers; the popularity of this book led to the widespread belief that opals are bad luck stones.

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Date: 8/11/2013 13:06:58
From: roughbarked
ID: 427510
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

PermeateFree said:


Opal is also regarded as bringing bad luck.

Only a BS tale for a very brief period.

De-Beers used a line from a novel to market their diamonds when opal was out selling diamonds at the start of last century

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Date: 8/11/2013 13:15:04
From: Ian
ID: 427513
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Electrical banana Is bound to be the very next phase..

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Date: 8/11/2013 13:26:31
From: PermeateFree
ID: 427516
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

roughbarked said:


PermeateFree said:

Opal is also regarded as bringing bad luck.

Only a BS tale for a very brief period.

De-Beers used a line from a novel to market their diamonds when opal was out selling diamonds at the start of last century

When you get away from people with financial interests in opal, the history of bad luck being involved is more interesting and goes back a long way.

>>The origin of the superstition that the opal is an unlucky stone and will bring misfortune and ill luck to its owner is obscure. Among the ancients the opal was prized above most other precious stones. According to Pliny, a Roman senator named-Nonius-had-a large and, beautiful opal that he valued at the equivalent of five thousand dollars.

Nonius preferred exile to letting the gem fall into the hands of Mark Antony. Some writers believe the superstition about opals being unlucky dates back only to the fourteenth century, when they were unfavorably associated with the Black Death. In those days it was said in Italy, particularly Venice, that such gems worn by persons stricken with the plague suddenly turned brilliant and then lost their luster when the owner died.

Others believe it originated in the mythology of Scandinavia. The Edda tells of a Norse god who fashioned a gem from the eyes of children. This gem was called yaikstein and may have been the opal. Opal is believed to be- derived from a Greek word meaning a gem or precious stone, which appears to have been associated with the eye among the Greeks.

One supposition is that the opal became associated with ill luck because, like the evil eye, it invaded the privacy of the wearer. The association of the opal with the eyeballs persisted for centuries. During the reign of Queen Elizabeth a man named Batman wrote: “The optallius keepeth and saveth the eye of him that bear and dimmeth other men’s eyes so that it in a manner maketh them blind, so that they may not see what is done before them, so that it is said to be the patron of thieves.”

Much of the modern superstition no doubt owes its origin to Sir Walter Scott’s story entitled Anne of Geierstein, published in 1829, where the opal is- represented as an unlucky stone inviting misfortune and unhappiness to the possessor. Scott may have been author of the superstition.

At any rate, since that time the opal has been regarded as unlucky and superstitious people refuse to wear it. This prejudice against the opal became a real obstacle to its commercial distribution. It was a favorite of Queen Victoria who did much to reinstate the stone in public favor. She demonstrated her preference for the gem in many ways, partly no doubt in the interests of her subjects in Australia where fine opals are produced.

When an opal mine was opened in that country the British Queen wore some of- the stones in an effort to popularize them. Only a generation ago an Australian firm, because of the superstition, undertook to exploit opals under the name iridots, which was suggested by the Greek word meaning “rainbow.”<<

http://www.4information.com/trivia/opals-considered-unlucky/

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Date: 8/11/2013 17:50:07
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 427621
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Buffy, today at work I was getting what I can only describe as flashes in my peripheral vision. It has happened before and it goes away after5-10 minutes but it’s quite disconcerting.

They’re not floaters, more like little flashes of light.

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Date: 8/11/2013 17:50:59
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 427622
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Skeptic Pete said:


Buffy, today at work I was getting what I can only describe as flashes in my peripheral vision. It has happened before and it goes away after5-10 minutes but it’s quite disconcerting.

They’re not floaters, more like little flashes of light.

Probably MS.

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Date: 8/11/2013 17:52:43
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 427626
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Peak Warming Man said:


Skeptic Pete said:

Buffy, today at work I was getting what I can only describe as flashes in my peripheral vision. It has happened before and it goes away after5-10 minutes but it’s quite disconcerting.

They’re not floaters, more like little flashes of light.

Probably MS.

I think I’ll wait for buffy’s opinion.

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Date: 8/11/2013 17:53:44
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 427629
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Skeptic Pete said:


Peak Warming Man said:

Skeptic Pete said:

Buffy, today at work I was getting what I can only describe as flashes in my peripheral vision. It has happened before and it goes away after5-10 minutes but it’s quite disconcerting.

They’re not floaters, more like little flashes of light.

Probably MS.

I think I’ll wait for buffy’s opinion.

If you must.

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Date: 8/11/2013 17:58:21
From: JudgeMental
ID: 427639
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

it is the jelly thinning out and sloshing around, at least that was what my iDoctor told me. if i remember right.

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Date: 8/11/2013 21:34:00
From: Mr Ironic
ID: 427803
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

They’re not floaters, more like little flashes of light.
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So you have finally seen the light.

Better sell your boat.

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Date: 8/11/2013 21:53:44
From: wookiemeister
ID: 427817
Subject: re: Wild About Saffron

Skeptic Pete said:


Buffy, today at work I was getting what I can only describe as flashes in my peripheral vision. It has happened before and it goes away after5-10 minutes but it’s quite disconcerting.

They’re not floaters, more like little flashes of light.


see a doctor tout de suite

that’s not a good sign

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