I’ve tried searching and I only came across a petition at change.org.
where and how do I make a fuss?

its here
http://www.change.org/en-AU/petitions/olympic-athletes-take-a-stand-against-russia-s-brutal-anti-gay-laws-wear-a-rainbow-pin-at-the-games-goldmedalmessage

but I don’t put much faith in petitions.
how do you organise and get support for a boycott?

Don’t think there’s much we can do, purple, except wait for the Russians (and other eastern Europeans) to catch up with the First World. But like me you can boycott the TV coverage of the Russian winter Olympics, in February next year.

there has to be something…I need a think

Yep, bugger all you can do, Purps.

Just wondering, why pick on Russia? Compared to some regimes in the middle east cough islamic cough they’re almost a paradigm of virtue.

you’d think nailing your testicles to a frozen russian street would get more public attention. that guy must be pretty disgusted in everyone!

purple said:

how do you organise and get support for a boycott?

facebook.

that’s true Sibeen. I hadn’t considered that. I guess cos I think of Russia as being progressive and free.

purple said:

I guess cos I think of Russia as being progressive and free.

You’re very wrong on that count.

Witty Rejoinder said:

purple said:

I guess cos I think of Russia as being progressive and free.

You’re very wrong on that count.

Read Clive Palmer’s retake of JFK’s speech.

Why use your energy for Russia’s issues when you could be doing something locally for the atrocious government Australia has?

Witty Rejoinder said:

purple said:

I guess cos I think of Russia as being progressive and free.

You’re very wrong on that count.

There president shoots centrefolds “но только матери могут смотреть на мою грудь” Not progressive pffft!

kii said:

Why use your energy for Russia’s issues when you could be doing something locally for the atrocious government Australia has?

Well, there is that.

Riff-in-Thyme said:

Witty Rejoinder said:

purple said:

I guess cos I think of Russia as being progressive and free.

You’re very wrong on that count.

There president shoots centrefolds “но только матери могут смотреть на мою грудь” Not progressive pffft!

Wonder if he ever ponders that there may be homosexual people out there who want his body.

kii said:

Why use your energy for Russia’s issues when you could be doing something locally for the atrocious government Australia has?

Nothing much we can do about that either.

Kii, you have no idea what I do

roughbarked said:

kii said:

Why use your energy for Russia’s issues when you could be doing something locally for the atrocious government Australia has?

Well, there is that.

we should be able to arrange the marriage of Abbott and Putin. like a modern exile. Cheney could be the stepmother

purple said:

I’ve tried searching and I only came across a petition at change.org.
where and how do I make a fuss?

Boycott trade with Russia. Don’t buy any good from Russia, don’t seel anything to Russian state enterprises.

Bubblecar said:

kii said:

Why use your energy for Russia’s issues when you could be doing something locally for the atrocious government Australia has?

Nothing much we can do about that either.

No? I always like a good protest march with banners and megaphones.

purple said:

Kii, you have no idea what I do

you can’t be fierce enough to be getting that kind of attention then tiger

purple said:

Kii, you have no idea what I do

No, because you haven’t said anything.

party_pants said:

purple said:

I’ve tried searching and I only came across a petition at change.org.
where and how do I make a fuss?

Boycott trade with Russia. Don’t buy any good from Russia, don’t seel anything to Russian state enterprises.

what do they sell here again? young people still?

pardon my poor spelling – my sore knee kicking in again.

Riff-in-Thyme said:

party_pants said:

purple said:

I’ve tried searching and I only came across a petition at change.org.
where and how do I make a fuss?

Boycott trade with Russia. Don’t buy any good from Russia, don’t seel anything to Russian state enterprises.

what do they sell here again? young people still?

Vodka,… and ….um… ???

I’m with you, Admiral. From now on I intend to never seel anything to Russian state enterprises.

Riff-in-Thyme said:

party_pants said:

purple said:

I’ve tried searching and I only came across a petition at change.org.
where and how do I make a fuss?

Boycott trade with Russia. Don’t buy any good from Russia, don’t seel anything to Russian state enterprises.

what do they sell here again? young people still?

Vodka.

kii said:

Why use your energy for Russia’s issues when you could be doing something locally for the atrocious government Australia has?

YEAH! It’s much, much worse than the previous government…oh…wait.

>I guess cos I think of Russia as being progressive and free.

Corruption is endemic in Russian politics and government, and probably seriously distorts whatever goes on there.

>Corruption in Russia is a significant problem that impacts the lives of Russia’s citizens. Russia is on the 133rd place out of 176 (tied with Comoros, Guyana, Honduras, Iran, and Kazakhstan) in the Corruption Perceptions Index published by Transparency International. According to some expert estimates, the market for corruption in the country exceeded US$240 billion in 2006. The Russian think tank Indem estimates that bribes accounted for 20% of Russia’s GDP as of 2005.

According to a poll conducted in early 2010, 15% of Russians reported to have paid a bribe in the past 12 months. The overall amount of bribes in the Russian economy during the last decade skyrocketed from $33 billion to more than $400 billion per year in Putin’s government, according to Georgy Satarov, former aide to Boris Yeltsin.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Corruption_in_Russia

party_pants said:

pardon my poor spelling – my sore knee kicking in again.

You type with your knees?

sibeen said:

YEAH! It’s much, much worse than the previous government!

*fixed

>No? I always like a good protest march with banners and megaphones.

No-one’s impressed except other protesters and the politicians themselves. Conservative Oz politicians love protesters, it makes them feel noticed.

I don’t have to. I don’t report to anyone.

I need to look up and rethink my views of Russia I guess.
I am nonetheless outraged with this law.

purple said:

I don’t have to. I don’t report to anyone.

I need to look up and rethink my views of Russia I guess.
I am nonetheless outraged with this law.

they are shitheads

purple said:

I don’t have to. I don’t report to anyone.

I need to look up and rethink my views of Russia I guess.
I am nonetheless outraged with this law.

/where’s the bus when one needs it?

purple said:

I don’t have to. I don’t report to anyone.

I need to look up and rethink my views of Russia I guess.
I am nonetheless outraged with this law.

I’m not asking for a report.

Maybe a hint or two….how about a snide remark?

Shit…this really happened :/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/11/artist-nails-testicles-red-square-pyotr-pavlensky

kii said:

Shit…this really happened :/
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/11/artist-nails-testicles-red-square-pyotr-pavlensky

He could have just sat them on an ice block. There’d be blood when he tried to remove the ice, anyway.

purple said:

I don’t have to. I don’t report to anyone.

I need to look up and rethink my views of Russia I guess.
I am nonetheless outraged with this law.

Me too, and doubtless plenty of Russians are too. But they’re the best placed to actually anything about it.

actually anything about it = do :)

A gay US president. Or, I suppose if Putin’s wife likes threesomes you might be able to swing the fella a bit that way, especially if she gets the vision on her iPhone and uploads it and Wikileaks or the NSA get a copy.

I’ve been hearing some about the outbreak of homosexuality in Russia, caused by there being too few attractive tourists apparently, so probably the answer is in that somewhere.

Won’t anyone think of the Green protestors?

purple said:

Kii, you have no idea what I do

Surprise me

wookiemeister said:

purple said:

Kii, you have no idea what I do

Surprise me

I travelled through Russia in 06 & they are a long way from first world thinking on most subjects.

purple said:

I’ve tried searching and I only came across a petition at change.org.
where and how do I make a fuss?

write a letter to the Russian Embassy in Canberra

point out what changes are happening around the world, like gay marriage laws in various states in America, and gay marriage laws in Canberra and gay marriage laws elsewhere

point out the Russian lesbian band t.A.T.u

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.A.T.u.

were popular just as recently in 2003

What can I do about the Russian anti-gay laws?

nothing

poor turnout out golf clap for naysayers

https://www.google.com/search?q=naysayers

Bubblecar said:

like me you can boycott the TV coverage of the Russian winter Olympics, in February next year.

Did you boycott the London Olympics? When London got awarded the Olympics it ws involved in the attack on Iraq, an attack that was illegal, based on fabricated evidence, and has killed a million and counting.

What is Russia’s crime? To have a few backward gay laws that do not outlaw homosexuality.

Russia recently stepped up to the plate and stopped the disgusting West from destroying yet another nation in Syria, Putin deserves the Nobel peace prize 100 times more than two faced Obama does.

Why is the West’s warmongering so acceptable, yet Russia’s domestic gay laws completely unacceptable? There’s no question which is the worst crime against humanity.

Anywho said:

Bubblecar said:

like me you can boycott the TV coverage of the Russian winter Olympics, in February next year.

Did you boycott the London Olympics? When London got awarded the Olympics it ws involved in the attack on Iraq, an attack that was illegal, based on fabricated evidence, and has killed a million and counting.

What is Russia’s crime? To have a few backward gay laws that do not outlaw homosexuality.

Russia recently stepped up to the plate and stopped the disgusting West from destroying yet another nation in Syria, Putin deserves the Nobel peace prize 100 times more than two faced Obama does.

Why is the West’s warmongering so acceptable, yet Russia’s domestic gay laws completely unacceptable? There’s no question which is the worst crime against humanity.

you do have a point

Russia has done something silly by attacking greenpeace recently, from a media perspective this is a poltical death. france blew up rainbow warrior and had to eat shit for years over it.

Anywho said:

Did you boycott the London Olympics? When London got awarded the Olympics it ws involved in the attack on Iraq, an attack that was illegal, based on fabricated evidence, and has killed a million and counting.

What is Russia’s crime? To have a few backward gay laws that do not outlaw homosexuality.

Russia recently stepped up to the plate and stopped the disgusting West from destroying yet another nation in Syria, Putin deserves the Nobel peace prize 100 times more than two faced Obama does.

Why is the West’s warmongering so acceptable, yet Russia’s domestic gay laws completely unacceptable? There’s no question which is the worst crime against humanity.

Why do you attribute the highest virtues to Putin and Assad and the lowest to western leaders like Obama? A more rigorous appraisel would have all politicians having good sides and bad.

and in the red corner all the way from lalaland we have woowoowookie. facing him in the blue corner the defender of all that is wacky we have anywoo.

let the battle begin!

>Did you boycott the London Olympics?

Don’t think I watched any of it. But not because I’m a fan of Saddam Hussein (‘ços I’m not).

Bubblecar said:

>Did you boycott the London Olympics?

Don’t think I watched any of it. But not because I’m a fan of Saddam Hussein (‘ços I’m not).

Do you think it was only Saddam Hussein that got killed?

Making the war about Saddam was a propaganda exercise that clearly worked on you.

Witty Rejoinder said:

Anywho said:

Did you boycott the London Olympics? When London got awarded the Olympics it ws involved in the attack on Iraq, an attack that was illegal, based on fabricated evidence, and has killed a million and counting.

What is Russia’s crime? To have a few backward gay laws that do not outlaw homosexuality.

Russia recently stepped up to the plate and stopped the disgusting West from destroying yet another nation in Syria, Putin deserves the Nobel peace prize 100 times more than two faced Obama does.

Why is the West’s warmongering so acceptable, yet Russia’s domestic gay laws completely unacceptable? There’s no question which is the worst crime against humanity.

Why do you attribute the highest virtues to Putin and Assad and the lowest to western leaders like Obama? A more rigorous appraisel would have all politicians having good sides and bad.

Warmongers are pure evil, like paedophiles they don’t give a damn about the innocent lives they destroy.

ChrispenEvan said:

and in the red corner all the way from lalaland we have woowoowookie. facing him in the blue corner the defender of all that is wacky we have anywoo.

let the battle begin!

I laughed when I saw the Russian thing

the old testament says that gay men have to be KILLED

any religion that follows the old testament would have to do this to follow the teachings of Jehovah

anyone care to chew down on this broken glass of a fact?

purple said:

I’ve tried searching and I only came across a petition at change.org.
where and how do I make a fuss?

Tell Putin how cross you are, then go do something useful.

Nothing we can do about it. Maybe boycott vodka.

I don’t hear anyone complaining about gays being killed for being gay in Israel

I wonder why???

oh yes because no one must mention this inconvenient truth that gays have to be killed according our friend Jehovah

anyone game enough to debate me on this one?

anyone?

anyone??

wookiemeister said:

I don’t hear anyone complaining about gays being killed for being gay in Israel

I wonder why???

oh yes because no one must mention this inconvenient truth that gays have to be killed according our friend Jehovah

anyone game enough to debate me on this one?

anyone?

anyone??

Maybe you could go to a mass debating site.

Gays get killed everywhere…. Everywhere

Anywho said:

Warmongers are pure evil, like paedophiles they don’t give a damn about the innocent lives they destroy.

So you must have despised Saddam Hussein for his war against Iran and his invasion of Kuwait?

>the old testament says that gay men have to be KILLED

Doubtless there are some Russians who follow that thinking, but religious belief is not really very big in Russia. The previous Communist regime was officially atheist but extremely homophobic. The current situation is partly a reflection of traditional, backward Eastern European sexism and conservatism, and probably also influenced by church/state connivance in corruption and organised crime.

>So you must have despised Saddam Hussein for his war against Iran and his invasion of Kuwait?

Not to mention bin Laden for his war against everyone.

Dropbear said:

wookiemeister said:

I don’t hear anyone complaining about gays being killed for being gay in Israel

I wonder why???

oh yes because no one must mention this inconvenient truth that gays have to be killed according our friend Jehovah

anyone game enough to debate me on this one?

anyone?

anyone??

Maybe you could go to a mass debating site.

Gays get killed everywhere…. Everywhere

ohhh so just because Jehovah enshrined in his laws and everyone else does it, this diminishes what his followers believe and practice

the Israelis have been peddling that line to excuse their genocide for years – its something a simpleton would listen to

when Jehovah gets into power you won’t survive

the old testament is curse on mankind

Bubblecar said:

>the old testament says that gay men have to be KILLED

Doubtless there are some Russians who follow that thinking, but religious belief is not really very big in Russia. The previous Communist regime was officially atheist but extremely homophobic. The current situation is partly a reflection of traditional, backward Eastern European sexism and conservatism, and probably also influenced by church/state connivance in corruption and organised crime.

I don’t think the Russians really know what they believe – alcoholism is huge in russia

Bubblecar said:

>So you must have despised Saddam Hussein for his war against Iran and his invasion of Kuwait?

Not to mention bin Laden for his war against everyone.

And Big Kev for his war on prices

Bubblecar said:

>So you must have despised Saddam Hussein for his war against Iran and his invasion of Kuwait?

Not to mention bin Laden for his war against everyone.

all religions are a war on humanity

the moment you sign away your ability to make critique on society and the world in general you sign away your mind

LGBT rights in Israel

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) rights in Israel have advanced in recent years and have generally been seen as one of the most progressive countries in the Middle East and Asia. Same-sex sexual activity was legalized in 1988, although the law was not enforced after a 1963 court decision. Israel became the first in Asia to recognize unregistered cohabitation between same-sex couples, making it the only country in Asia to recognize any same-sex union thus far. Although same-sex marriages are not performed in the country, Israel recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere, making it the first and only country in Asia to do so. Discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation were prohibited in 1992. Same-sex couples are allowed to jointly adopt after a court decision in 2008, while previously allowing stepchild adoptions and limited co-guardianship rights for non-biological parents. Gays and lesbians are also allowed to serve openly in the military.

Recent polls have indicated that a majority of Israelis support same-sex marriage, despite some social conservatism. Tel Aviv has frequently been referred to by publishers as one of the most gay friendly cities in the world, infamous for its annual Pride Parade and gay beach, earning it the nickname “the gay capital of the Middle East” by Out Magazine. According to LGBT travelers, it was ranked as the best gay city in 2011, despite reports of some LGBT violence during the 2000s, which were criticized by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres. A monument dedicated to the LGBT victims persecuted by Nazis during World War II will be erected in Tel Aviv.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Israel

What about pitch invasions? they are no accident, they have nearly all be planned.
Unlike the accidental Polish invasion that the German Chancellor got some pretty bad press about.
A couple of divisions exercising close to the boarder, there was no GPS back then, easy mistake to make.

Bubblecar said:

LGBT rights in Israel

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

Lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender (LGBT) rights in Israel have advanced in recent years and have generally been seen as one of the most progressive countries in the Middle East and Asia. Same-sex sexual activity was legalized in 1988, although the law was not enforced after a 1963 court decision. Israel became the first in Asia to recognize unregistered cohabitation between same-sex couples, making it the only country in Asia to recognize any same-sex union thus far. Although same-sex marriages are not performed in the country, Israel recognizes same-sex marriages performed elsewhere, making it the first and only country in Asia to do so. Discrimination on the grounds of sexual orientation were prohibited in 1992. Same-sex couples are allowed to jointly adopt after a court decision in 2008, while previously allowing stepchild adoptions and limited co-guardianship rights for non-biological parents. Gays and lesbians are also allowed to serve openly in the military.

Recent polls have indicated that a majority of Israelis support same-sex marriage, despite some social conservatism. Tel Aviv has frequently been referred to by publishers as one of the most gay friendly cities in the world, infamous for its annual Pride Parade and gay beach, earning it the nickname “the gay capital of the Middle East” by Out Magazine. According to LGBT travelers, it was ranked as the best gay city in 2011, despite reports of some LGBT violence during the 2000s, which were criticized by Prime Minister Benjamin Netanyahu and President Shimon Peres. A monument dedicated to the LGBT victims persecuted by Nazis during World War II will be erected in Tel Aviv.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_rights_in_Israel

the wolf does not change its fur

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tel_Aviv_gay_centre_shooting

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tel_Aviv_gay_centre_shooting

The obvious difference being that this was an isolated criminal act, not government policy (as the killing of gays is in various muslim countries).

the orthodox jews are breeding like wildfire in the west bank, families with maybe 6,7 or more kids are common

we’ll see how the democratic process holds up in the face of fanaticism

whats scary is that they have nuclear weapons, it wouldn’t be a bad idea disarming Israel of its nuclear weapons before the religious right have completely taken control of the arsenal

Bubblecar said:

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tel_Aviv_gay_centre_shooting

The obvious difference being that this was an isolated criminal act, not government policy (as the killing of gays is in various muslim countries).

Is this a reference to those two guys who ended up swinging in the breeze for raping a 13yo boy?

Bubblecar said:

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tel_Aviv_gay_centre_shooting

The obvious difference being that this was an isolated criminal act, not government policy (as the killing of gays is in various muslim countries).

like the shooting of Rabin was just an isolated incident

no

the religious right says anyone giving away sacred land must be killed

they say kill all gays

i tend to see these characters as every other lunatic I’ve come across in life – stay away from them , have nothing to do with them and you’ll remain safe.

>Is this a reference to those two guys who ended up swinging in the breeze for raping a 13yo boy?

I don’t why you’ve chosen to fixate on that particular case, DO (two teenagers hanged for what was later reported to be the rape of another teenager). Thousands of gays have been executed in Iran since the revolution, and it’s also a regular policy in other muslim countries, especially if the victims are gay rights activists:

Homosexual relations are a crime in Saudi Arabia and Iran. The death penalty is currently in place in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Mauritania, northern Nigeria and Yemen.

The legal situation in the United Arab Emirates is that it is illegal and can get you the death penalty, but some regions just give jail time, mutilations, and fines. In Bahrain, homosexuality between two consenting adults aged 21 and above is legal. In Qatar, Algeria, Uzbekistan and the Maldives, homosexuality is punished with jail time or fines. This has led to controversy regarding Qatar, which is due to stage the 2022 FIFA World Cup. Human rights groups have questioned the awarding in 2010 of the right to host the competition, due to the possibility that gay football fans may be jailed. In response, Sepp Blatter, head of FIFA, joked that they would have to “refrain from sexual activity” while in Qatar. He later withdrew the remarks after condemnation from rights groups.

In Saudi Arabia, while the maximum punishment for homosexual acts is public execution, the government will generally use lesser punishments—e.g., fines, jail time, and whipping—as alternatives, unless it feels that individuals are challenging state authority by engaging in LGBT social movements. Iran is perhaps the nation to execute the largest number of its citizens for homosexual acts. Since the 1979 Islamic revolution, the Iranian government has executed more than 4,000 such people.

In Egypt, openly gay men have been prosecuted under general public morality laws. (See Cairo 52.) On the other hand, homosexuality, while not legal, is tolerated in Lebanon.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LGBT_in_Islam#Legal_status_in_nations

Dropbear said:

Bubblecar said:

>So you must have despised Saddam Hussein for his war against Iran and his invasion of Kuwait?

Not to mention bin Laden for his war against everyone.

And Big Kev for his war on prices

Amen to that, he was a martyr for the battlers.

Carmen_Sandiego said:

Bubblecar said:

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tel_Aviv_gay_centre_shooting

The obvious difference being that this was an isolated criminal act, not government policy (as the killing of gays is in various muslim countries).

Is this a reference to those two guys who ended up swinging in the breeze for raping a 13yo boy?

muslim countries are a right off when it comes to such things

most of the world is full of savages – the longer we give them credence and kowtow to them the worse things get

that doesn’t mean that we should blow them up / attack them – let them get on with it

i saw one of these little savages doing flying kicks into some poor sheep tied up in the sun with its companion that they were probably going to kill in some savage way. i cursed them from the walls of Aleppo , cursed them all their kind in that city

as far as i’m aware Aleppo is a ravaged bullet hole riddled bomb crater pit now

wookiemeister said:

Carmen_Sandiego said:

Bubblecar said:

>http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2009_Tel_Aviv_gay_centre_shooting

The obvious difference being that this was an isolated criminal act, not government policy (as the killing of gays is in various muslim countries).

Is this a reference to those two guys who ended up swinging in the breeze for raping a 13yo boy?

muslim countries are a WRITE off when it comes to such things

most of the world is full of savages – the longer we give them credence and kowtow to them the worse things get

that doesn’t mean that we should blow them up / attack them – let them get on with it

i saw one of these little savages doing flying kicks into some poor sheep tied up in the sun with its companion that they were probably going to kill in some savage way. i cursed them from the walls of Aleppo , cursed them all their kind in that city

as far as i’m aware Aleppo is a ravaged bullet hole riddled bomb crater pit now

Bubblecar said:

Homosexual relations are a crime in Saudi Arabia and Iran. The death penalty is currently in place in Saudi Arabia, Iran, Mauritania, northern Nigeria and Yemen.

Fair enough, as you were. :)

Australia will become just as boned but you’ve got to stay to try and stay ahead of the bow wave of the destruction of western civilisation.

The Cave of the Patriarchs massacre, also known as the Hebron massacre was a shooting attack carried out by American-born Israeli Baruch Goldstein, a member of the far-right Israeli Kach movement, who opened fire on unarmed Palestinian Muslims praying inside the Ibrahim Mosque (or Mosque of Abraham) at the Cave of the Patriarchs in Hebron, West Bank. It took place on February 25, 1994, during the overlapping religious holidays of Purim and Ramadan. The attack left 29 male worshippers dead and 125 wounded. The attack only ended after Goldstein had expended his ammunition, when he was overcome and beaten to death by survivors.

The attack set off riots and protests throughout the West Bank, and 19 Palestinians were killed by the Israeli Defense Forces within 48 hours of the massacre. Goldstein was widely denounced in Israel and by Jewish communities in the diaspora, with many attributing his act to insanity. Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Rabin condemned the attack, describing Goldstein as a “degenerate murderer”, “a shame on Zionism and an embarrassment to Judaism”. Some Jewish settlers in Hebron laud him as a hero and view his attack and subsequent death as an act of martyrdom.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cave_of_the_Patriarchs_massacre

Pussy Riot punk Nadezhda Tolokonnikova sent to Siberian prison camp
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-13/pussy-riot-punk-sent-to-siberian-camp/5087696

the Siberian prisons never went away

Witty Rejoinder said:

Anywho said:

Warmongers are pure evil, like paedophiles they don’t give a damn about the innocent lives they destroy.

So you must have despised Saddam Hussein for his war against Iran and his invasion of Kuwait?He was fully supported by the West against Iran, including the use of CWs.

He was antagonised by Kuwait then given tacit approval to attack by the USA (Madeleine Albright)

He was a pawn of the US war machine.

It is the west that promotes war around the globe for geopolitical purposes, it is the west that promotes war as good and as a solution, it is the west that lusts for continuous wars, and it is the west that is on the march and must be stopped.

Everybody else are pawns and minnows.

Bubblecar said:

>So you must have despised Saddam Hussein for his war against Iran and his invasion of Kuwait?

Not to mention bin Laden for his war against everyone.

Lol, OBL was pure CIA and the only war he took part in was Afghanistan where he was armed and trained by the west.

You still don’t know that 911 was a false flag?

Anywho said:

You still don’t know that 911 was a false flag?

I heard it was our evil Lizard overlords what done it.

Damn you DV and your forum killing ways!

Opps sorry.

I think Putin should give up politics and turn to acting

he could make a real entrance as a spy of smerch in the next James Bond film

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SMERSH_(James_Bond)

Putin on Horse
http://img.washingtonpost.com/rf/image_606w/2010-2019/WashingtonPost/2012/09/05/Foreign/Images/Putin-strength07.jpg

Russian Sub at Beach
http://dougnyren.files.wordpress.com/2013/07/russia-submarine-on-beach.jpg?w=584

Putin on Sub 1
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/44462000/jpg/_44462174_sub_416_ap.jpg

Putin with Missile
http://blog.heritage.org/wp-content/uploads/Putin-missile-test1210.jpg

Putin on submersible
http://3.bp.blogspot.com/-7osyZcfitrQ/UeUoqXK6RzI/AAAAAAAAGP0/0xlvSR-68l4/s640/q.jpg

these Google search images could be scenes from the new movie

you could suggest this idea to Putin Purple, tell him he has a strong character and that he is photogenic and tell him he will make a great actor

CrazyNeutrino said:

I think Putin should give up politics and turn to acting

Putin probably prefers his screen audience be minimal and discreet

Anywho said:

Warmongers are pure evil, like paedophiles they don’t give a damn about the innocent lives they destroy.

Interesting that you should mention paedophiles on a thread about homosexuality. I was recently reading a book about the history of homosexuality in art that covered the whole time-span of recorded art. Throughout the ages and in every country, up until very recent times, no distinction was made between homosexuality, paedophilia and cross-dressing. It was a shock to me that the political lobby for the granting of rights for homosexuals was paralleled in time by an equivalent political lobby for the granting of equivalent rights to paedophiles.

As for what to do about Russia, first look up the Lonely Planet guidebook of Russia to see what they suggest for homosexual tourists.

Robot Suicide? Rogue Roomba Switches Self On, Climbs Onto Hotplate, Burns Up

Riff-in-Thyme said:

Robot Suicide? Rogue Roomba Switches Self On, Climbs Onto Hotplate, Burns Up

Riff-in-Thyme said:

Riff-in-Thyme said:

Robot Suicide? Rogue Roomba Switches Self On, Climbs Onto Hotplate, Burns Up

I believe this was a gay rights protest immolation by a buddhist bot.