Date: 19/11/2013 15:21:03
From: Neophyte
ID: 433446
Subject: Well, well....

It’s that time of the year again. With a fanfare and a drum roll, it’s time to announce the Oxford Dictionaries Word of the Year. The votes have been counted and verified and I can exclusively reveal that the winner is….

selfie

A picture can paint a thousand words
The decision was unanimous this year, with little if any argument. This is a little unusual. Normally there will be some good-natured debate as one person might champion their particular choice over someone else’s. But this time, everyone seemed to be in agreement almost from the start. Other words were considered, as you will see from our shortlist, but selfie was the runaway winner. It’s not a new word. For starters, it has already been included in Oxford Dictionaries Online (although not yet in the Oxford English Dictionary), and we wrote about it as part of our occasional Words on the Radar series back in June 2012. But our Word of the Year need not be a new word. However, it does need to demonstrate some kind of prominence over the preceding year or so and selfie certainly fits the bill. It seems like everyone who is anyone has posted a selfie somewhere on the Internet. If it is good enough for the Obamas or The Pope, then it is good enough for Word of the Year.

When it started
But what of the word itself? While it is safe to say that selfie’s star has risen over the last 12 months, it is actually much older than that. Evidence on the Oxford English Corpus shows the word selfie in use by 2003, but further research shows the earliest usage (so far anyway) as far back as 2002. Its use was, fittingly enough, in an online source – an Australian internet forum.

2002 ABC Online (forum posting) 13 Sept.
“Um, drunk at a mates 21st, I tripped ofer and landed lip first (with front teeth coming a very close second) on a set of steps. I had a hole about 1cm long right through my bottom lip. And sorry about the focus, it was a selfie.”

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Date: 19/11/2013 15:29:46
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433447
Subject: re: Well, well....

What forum was it originally posted?

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Date: 19/11/2013 15:33:00
From: party_pants
ID: 433448
Subject: re: Well, well....

gotta be SSSF. Mike V, sibeen and Hopey.

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Date: 19/11/2013 15:34:29
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433449
Subject: re: Well, well....

Aww Hopey’s famous :D

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Date: 19/11/2013 15:55:51
From: dv
ID: 433451
Subject: re: Well, well....

Yay Hopey!

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:01:12
From: Bubblecar
ID: 433454
Subject: re: Well, well....

Congrats @ Hopey. I bet the ABC are regretting shutting the doors on SSSF, now that it’s finally world famous.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:03:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433456
Subject: re: Well, well....

We should start posting more made-up words for the future. Perhaps Curve’s “mirthbusted” will finally be recognised.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:04:28
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 433457
Subject: re: Well, well....

and octacows

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:08:15
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 433460
Subject: re: Well, well....

Well, well indeed.

What are the chances that a comment in chat from 2002, would not only be preserved on the electric internet, but would also be discovered and recognised by such an august body as the Oxford Dictionary?

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:08:16
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 433461
Subject: re: Well, well....

ChrispenEvan said:


and octacows


PWM is waiting for a patent on that one.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:10:14
From: The Rev Dodgson
ID: 433462
Subject: re: Well, well....

Don’t forget bunnings, in the SSSF sense of the word.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:14:50
From: Bubblecar
ID: 433466
Subject: re: Well, well....

I wonder how they found it. Presumably they included the year in the search.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:16:09
From: ms spock
ID: 433467
Subject: re: Well, well....

party_pants said:


gotta be SSSF. Mike V, sibeen and Hopey.


LMAO

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:17:00
From: ms spock
ID: 433469
Subject: re: Well, well....

Bubblecar said:


Congrats @ Hopey. I bet the ABC are regretting shutting the doors on SSSF, now that it’s finally world famous.

I would hope so!

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:17:27
From: Bubblecar
ID: 433470
Subject: re: Well, well....

ABC digs up the photo. Hopey should sue:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2013-11-19/selfie-beats-twerk-as-word-of-the-year/5102154

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:17:33
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433471
Subject: re: Well, well....

I’m kinda sad that WB&D wasn’t mentioned in the screenshot…

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:18:24
From: ms spock
ID: 433472
Subject: re: Well, well....

Divine Angel said:


I’m kinda sad that WB&D wasn’t mentioned in the screenshot…

It is the cure all for all diseases of the mind, body and soul!

How could they miss it?

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:19:07
From: Bubblecar
ID: 433473
Subject: re: Well, well....

Odd that the ABC didn’t even bother identifying the forum.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:20:17
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433474
Subject: re: Well, well....

Bubblecar said:


Odd that the ABC didn’t even bother identifying the forum.

They’re still trying to tell us the server has been switched off.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:21:00
From: Neophyte
ID: 433475
Subject: re: Well, well....

Yes, even on the ABC news page, they’re just calling it an ABC forum.

On the news item, at the end….“Are you Hopey? Or do you know him? Get in contact.”

Should we go with the ABC or the Murdoch papers?

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:21:11
From: buffy
ID: 433476
Subject: re: Well, well....

“The link is now dead – but the ABC was able to recover the photo via the wonders of the Internet Archive’s Wayback ..”

Odd that they can do these wonders of the Modern Age, but couldn’t keep a very simple forum running…..

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:21:42
From: Bubblecar
ID: 433477
Subject: re: Well, well....

Probably a good thing though, ‘cos they’d probably call it Dr Karl’s SSSF, and we don’t want him taking the credit.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:22:02
From: buffy
ID: 433478
Subject: re: Well, well....

We could all contact them and tell them we knew Hopey and that the ABC killed Hopey.

;)

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:22:57
From: Bubblecar
ID: 433479
Subject: re: Well, well....

I don’t think Hopey’s posted in the Holiday Forum. But I could be wrong.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:23:16
From: Neophyte
ID: 433480
Subject: re: Well, well....

Then watch the Liberal govt misquote it and claim that the ABC killed hope.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:23:52
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433481
Subject: re: Well, well....

Hopey’s not listed on the Facebook SSSF page.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:24:56
From: sibeen
ID: 433482
Subject: re: Well, well....

WooooHooo, I’m da famous!!!!!

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:25:05
From: buffy
ID: 433483
Subject: re: Well, well....

Probably developed another pseudonym and is here now….

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:25:18
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 433484
Subject: re: Well, well....

good job there is no comments section on that page. i don’t think they’d like some of them. and the poster wasn’t dubbed Hopey that was his handle.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:25:25
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433486
Subject: re: Well, well....

I don’t recall seeing Hopey on Nick’s forum either.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:25:38
From: ms spock
ID: 433488
Subject: re: Well, well....

buffy said:

“The link is now dead – but the ABC was able to recover the photo via the wonders of the Internet Archive’s Wayback ..”

Odd that they can do these wonders of the Modern Age, but couldn’t keep a very simple forum running…..

True!

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:25:57
From: Peak Warming Man
ID: 433489
Subject: re: Well, well....

They have started up the Gardening Australia Forum again.

http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/Client/Board.aspx?b=72

Recent posts and everything, I think we should go over there and trash the joint.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:26:57
From: Neophyte
ID: 433491
Subject: re: Well, well....

sibeen said:


WooooHooo, I’m da famous!!!!!

You were a midwife….or the elephant in the room

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:27:05
From: Bubblecar
ID: 433492
Subject: re: Well, well....

From: Bubblecar

ID: 433485

Subject: re: Tech Talk Substitute, for quick questions

Hopey said:
Try disabling all of the plugins, maybe?

One quick search and I found the above Hopey HF post, from 2009.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:28:25
From: sibeen
ID: 433493
Subject: re: Well, well....

Neophyte said:


sibeen said:

WooooHooo, I’m da famous!!!!!

You were a midwife….or the elephant in the room

Without Michael V being around I can call you all “loosers”.

:)

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:33:38
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 433496
Subject: re: Well, well....

https://www.facebook.com/abcnews.au?fref=ts

make a comment.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:38:16
From: Bubblecar
ID: 433497
Subject: re: Well, well....

Selfies themselves have been around for centuries

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:38:37
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433498
Subject: re: Well, well....

How are people misunderstanding the article/photo? Self-portraits are as old as the hills; the whole point is origin of the term “seflie”.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:39:23
From: Bubblecar
ID: 433499
Subject: re: Well, well....

If selfie is now a legitimate word, how come IE10 keeps underlining the word as an error when I type it?

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:39:24
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433500
Subject: re: Well, well....

(I was reading the comments on ABC fb page0

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:44:22
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 433501
Subject: re: Well, well....

How are people misunderstanding the article/photo? Self-portraits are as old as the hills; the whole point is origin of the term “seflie”.

obviously not exsssfers. we grok these nuances.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:46:26
From: ms spock
ID: 433503
Subject: re: Well, well....

Peak Warming Man said:


They have started up the Gardening Australia Forum again.

http://www2b.abc.net.au/tmb/Client/Board.aspx?b=72

Recent posts and everything, I think we should go over there and trash the joint.

I think that is the reason we lost the forums in the first place, too many people trolling.

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Date: 19/11/2013 16:46:53
From: ms spock
ID: 433504
Subject: re: Well, well....

Bubblecar said:


Selfies themselves have been around for centuries


LOL

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Date: 19/11/2013 17:07:49
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 433514
Subject: re: Well, well....

Wow!

Way to go Hopie!

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Date: 19/11/2013 17:20:20
From: ms spock
ID: 433534
Subject: re: Well, well....

So did anyone ever meet Hopey?

Was Hopey someone with multiple handles?

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Date: 19/11/2013 17:21:28
From: Spiny Norman
ID: 433538
Subject: re: Well, well....

ms spock said:

So did anyone ever meet Hopey?

Was Hopey someone with multiple handles?

Yeah that was me.
Hopey was one of my handles.
(maybe …..)

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Date: 19/11/2013 18:15:34
From: party_pants
ID: 433602
Subject: re: Well, well....

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Date: 19/11/2013 18:57:55
From: Arts
ID: 433643
Subject: re: Well, well....

I know who Hopey is

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Date: 19/11/2013 18:59:50
From: Witty Rejoinder
ID: 433644
Subject: re: Well, well....

Arts said:


I know who Hopey is

Do they have a better known handle?

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:03:08
From: Arts
ID: 433647
Subject: re: Well, well....

Witty Rejoinder said:


Arts said:

I know who Hopey is

Do they have a better known handle?

I don’t know.

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:12:50
From: Neophyte
ID: 433651
Subject: re: Well, well....

Sheesh, Sibeen certainly didn’t waste any time taking credit over on the Guardian website :-)

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:14:34
From: sibeen
ID: 433653
Subject: re: Well, well....

Neophyte said:


Sheesh, Sibeen certainly didn’t waste any time taking credit over on the Guardian website :-)

Quick and the dead. If you want the contracts you must be seen, and my agent forced me to do it.

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:16:25
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433657
Subject: re: Well, well....

Neophyte said:


Sheesh, Sibeen certainly didn’t waste any time taking credit over on the Guardian website :-)

And with a typo to boot :D

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:17:21
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433659
Subject: re: Well, well....

So… who’s the mysterious and suddenly famous Hopey? Can you ask him if I can write the official biography?

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:17:40
From: Skeptic Pete
ID: 433660
Subject: re: Well, well....

Neophyte said:


Sheesh, Sibeen certainly didn’t waste any time taking credit over on the Guardian website :-)

link?

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:19:08
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433661
Subject: re: Well, well....

sibeen said:


Neophyte said:

Sheesh, Sibeen certainly didn’t waste any time taking credit over on the Guardian website :-)

Quick and the dead. If you want the contracts you must be seen, and my agent forced me to do it.

Next thing, sibeen’ll be charging for autographs.

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:20:49
From: sibeen
ID: 433662
Subject: re: Well, well....

Divine Angel said:


So… who’s the mysterious and suddenly famous Hopey? Can you ask him if I can write the official biography?

Hopey was a regular for years. Didn’t post as often as roughbarked, but then again, who does.

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:21:49
From: Divine Angel
ID: 433663
Subject: re: Well, well....

I know Hopey was a reg, but Arts claims to know The Real Hopey.

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:26:53
From: Neophyte
ID: 433670
Subject: re: Well, well....

Skeptic Pete said:


Neophyte said:

Sheesh, Sibeen certainly didn’t waste any time taking credit over on the Guardian website :-)

link?

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/nov/19/selfie-australian-slang-term-named-international-word-of-the-year

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Date: 19/11/2013 19:28:36
From: sibeen
ID: 433673
Subject: re: Well, well....

Divine Angel said:

And with a typo to boot :D

SHADDUP!!!

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Date: 20/11/2013 00:52:24
From: Stealth
ID: 433988
Subject: re: Well, well....

The Rev Dodgson said:


Well, well indeed.

What are the chances that a comment in chat from 2002, would not only be preserved on the electric internet, but would also be discovered and recognised by such an august body as the Oxford Dictionary?


When did we stop labelling the chat thread “Dissolvable stitches” and start labelling it deceptive names like “chat”?

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Date: 20/11/2013 00:55:08
From: party_pants
ID: 433990
Subject: re: Well, well....

Stealth said:


The Rev Dodgson said:

Well, well indeed.

What are the chances that a comment in chat from 2002, would not only be preserved on the electric internet, but would also be discovered and recognised by such an august body as the Oxford Dictionary?


When did we stop labelling the chat thread “Dissolvable stitches” and start labelling it deceptive names like “chat”?

It was a science thread. Chat got purged every month.

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Date: 20/11/2013 06:24:40
From: Dropbear
ID: 434009
Subject: re: Well, well....

I coulda been a contender …

Still if it really was a Australian invention it should have been selfo :)

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Date: 20/11/2013 07:34:34
From: roughbarked
ID: 434013
Subject: re: Well, well....

Dropbear said:


I coulda been a contender …

Still if it really was a Australian invention it should have been selfo :)

That’d be a yobbo invention, eh mate.

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Date: 20/11/2013 07:35:38
From: Dropbear
ID: 434014
Subject: re: Well, well....

roughbarked said:


Dropbear said:

I coulda been a contender …

Still if it really was a Australian invention it should have been selfo :)

That’d be a yobbo invention, eh mate.

Sorry yes, I’ve come over all queenslander :)

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Date: 20/11/2013 07:39:43
From: Spider Lily
ID: 434015
Subject: re: Well, well....

Good morning all

A little quiet in here this morning?

24 degrees, 91% r/h and a massive amount of rain over night :)

I nearly fell out of my seat when I recognised the old SSSF on the ABC news web site yesterday, now it appears to be everywhere :)

Enjoy Wednesday everyone :D

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Date: 20/11/2013 09:44:01
From: dv
ID: 434042
Subject: re: Well, well....

Here is the full thread

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Date: 20/11/2013 11:24:42
From: manfromironbark
ID: 434191
Subject: re: Well, well....

Spider Lily said:

I nearly fell out of my seat when I recognised the old SSSF on the ABC news web site yesterday, now it appears to be everywhere :)

I first registered in 2000-2 or therabouts but didn’t post when they sent reminders. Then one day when I posted.. they said I wasn’t registered. Even though they were still sending me reminders to participate.

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Date: 20/11/2013 11:27:26
From: Tamb
ID: 434193
Subject: re: Well, well....

manfromironbark said:


Spider Lily said:

I nearly fell out of my seat when I recognised the old SSSF on the ABC news web site yesterday, now it appears to be everywhere :)

I first registered in 2000-2 or therabouts but didn’t post when they sent reminders. Then one day when I posted.. they said I wasn’t registered. Even though they were still sending me reminders to participate.

Were you manfromironbark then?

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Date: 20/11/2013 11:29:37
From: manfromironbark
ID: 434198
Subject: re: Well, well....

Tamb said:


manfromironbark said:

Spider Lily said:

I nearly fell out of my seat when I recognised the old SSSF on the ABC news web site yesterday, now it appears to be everywhere :)

I first registered in 2000-2 or therabouts but didn’t post when they sent reminders. Then one day when I posted.. they said I wasn’t registered. Even though they were still sending me reminders to participate.

Were you manfromironbark then?

ironbarked.
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Date: 20/11/2013 11:31:11
From: Tamb
ID: 434201
Subject: re: Well, well....

manfromironbark said:


Tamb said:

manfromironbark said:

I first registered in 2000-2 or therabouts but didn’t post when they sent reminders. Then one day when I posted.. they said I wasn’t registered. Even though they were still sending me reminders to participate.

Were you manfromironbark then?

ironbarked.

Right. Now I remember you. Welcome.

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Date: 20/11/2013 11:35:51
From: manfromironbark
ID: 434205
Subject: re: Well, well....

Tamb said:


manfromironbark said:

Tamb said:

Were you manfromironbark then?

ironbarked.

Right. Now I remember you. Welcome.

ta. :)

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