How high are your Poultry Pens fences? also are your birds wings clipped?
all Poultry Owners Please Reply.
I have an enclosed, roofed pen for night time and during the day they get the run of the back yard. They don’t try and get out so I don’t need to clip their wings.
bluegreen said:
I have an enclosed, roofed pen for night time and during the day they get the run of the back yard. They don’t try and get out so I don’t need to clip their wings.
ok we have a roofed pen at night, BG how do you stop them getting into your Gardens?
veg gardener said:
How high are your Poultry Pens fences? also are your birds wings clipped?
1.5 metres (5’0”) chooks can’t fly over that.
although i notice charlotte is climbing and flying into the pigeon loft to share the pigeon food in the mornings. thats about 1.35m climb and fly. so 1.5m high is a minimum (probably 1.8m high is sure).
pepe said:
veg gardener said:
How high are your Poultry Pens fences? also are your birds wings clipped?
1.5 metres (5’0”) chooks can’t fly over that.
although i notice charlotte is climbing and flying into the pigeon loft to share the pigeon food in the mornings. thats about 1.35m climb and fly. so 1.5m high is a minimum (probably 1.8m high is sure).
ok then, ill see the height of our normal fence later on today when it warms up a bit more :P.
veg gardener said:
bluegreen said:
I have an enclosed, roofed pen for night time and during the day they get the run of the back yard. They don’t try and get out so I don’t need to clip their wings.
ok we have a roofed pen at night, BG how do you stop them getting into your Gardens?
I put little fences around my gardens. They are only about a metre high and most of the time the chooks keep out, but sometimes they will go in. I put some netting or something over the top if the plants are small and need protection.
pepe my normal fence is 1.10m from ground to top Electric wire, i know startpost wont hold up 1.50m netting as they are only 1.60m found a few poles that might be able to hold it up.
veg gardener said:
pepe my normal fence is 1.10m from ground to top Electric wire, i know startpost wont hold up 1.50m netting as they are only 1.60m found a few poles that might be able to hold it up.
this be to low to keep them in wouldn’t it?
veg gardener said:
How high are your Poultry Pens fences? also are your birds wings clipped?
Our chook pen takes up almost the whole of our bottom tier. Our back fence, which is 6ft (somewhat under 2m) forms one fence line. The right hand side fence starts out at 6ft, but goes up a slope; however, the coop is on that fence, so most it is over 5ft.
The remaining two sides are bit haphazard at the moment. The Man plans on installing them properly this weekend. Time being an issue – I want him with his trailer driver hat on to pick up lucerne and manure; friends also want him in that hat (and that’s likely to be paid).
All that to say, at the moment they’re only about four foot. The chooks have one wing clipped and haven’t worked out they could probably get over the short fence. It might be the 6ft rock wall that they’d collide with on the other side that stops them hehehe.
They do; however, get over the solid gate, which is also only 4 ft. During the day they’re not interested; but at night they’re determined to get out and into the trees. Stoopid birds.
veg gardener said:
pepe my normal fence is 1.10m from ground to top Electric wire, i know startpost wont hold up 1.50m netting as they are only 1.60m found a few poles that might be able to hold it up.
i had a friend with 1.2m fences and the roosters and chooks flew out every day. so 1.5m high is minimal – sorry.
i don’t know if electric fences make a difference – most times the chooks fly up to the top of a low fence, land on the fence, and then fly down the other side.
SueBk said:
veg gardener said:
How high are your Poultry Pens fences? also are your birds wings clipped?
Our chook pen takes up almost the whole of our bottom tier. Our back fence, which is 6ft (somewhat under 2m) forms one fence line. The right hand side fence starts out at 6ft, but goes up a slope; however, the coop is on that fence, so most it is over 5ft.
The remaining two sides are bit haphazard at the moment. The Man plans on installing them properly this weekend. Time being an issue – I want him with his trailer driver hat on to pick up lucerne and manure; friends also want him in that hat (and that’s likely to be paid).
All that to say, at the moment they’re only about four foot. The chooks have one wing clipped and haven’t worked out they could probably get over the short fence. It might be the 6ft rock wall that they’d collide with on the other side that stops them hehehe.
They do; however, get over the solid gate, which is also only 4 ft. During the day they’re not interested; but at night they’re determined to get out and into the trees. Stoopid birds.
pepe said:
veg gardener said:
pepe my normal fence is 1.10m from ground to top Electric wire, i know startpost wont hold up 1.50m netting as they are only 1.60m found a few poles that might be able to hold it up.
i had a friend with 1.2m fences and the roosters and chooks flew out every day. so 1.5m high is minimal – sorry.
i don’t know if electric fences make a difference – most times the chooks fly up to the top of a low fence, land on the fence, and then fly down the other side.
so ill try and get it 1.5 only problem is we have fence on both sides of it. one is the grapevine and then the other one is the goats paddock.
veg gardener said:
veg gardener said:
pepe my normal fence is 1.10m from ground to top Electric wire, i know startpost wont hold up 1.50m netting as they are only 1.60m found a few poles that might be able to hold it up.
this be to low to keep them in wouldn’t it?
do your hens tend to try and get out VG?
bluegreen said:
veg gardener said:
veg gardener said:
pepe my normal fence is 1.10m from ground to top Electric wire, i know startpost wont hold up 1.50m netting as they are only 1.60m found a few poles that might be able to hold it up.
this be to low to keep them in wouldn’t it?
do your hens tend to try and get out VG?
not really, only when i place them over the fence only time. they go under that gate put can go thought dog mesh which all chooks can.
pepe the fence there you see is the one going to the goats paddock next to the house paddock. other one is the grape vine which is just 2 wires (cant see in photo).
veg gardener said:
pepe said:
There will be 4 separate sections, and the chooks will be rotated through according to what’s fruiting (or finished fruiting) because I’ll plant my small fruit in a couple of the sections, e.g. black/red/white currants, blueberries etc.
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loud applause for yeehah.
finally a fellow chook rotater. !!!
yeehah is this going to have netting over the top or just the sides with netting?
Putting this in a thread where it’s got a chance of being found!
Yes, it will have netting over the top. I’m going to be adding to my blog shortly (don’t ask for a definite time frame though!) with photos.
The essence is that the chook houses will consist of a series of polypipe hoops that are threaded over star pickets. The parallel sides will be either chicken wire or recycled roofing iron up to a height of about 1500mm then the gap will be covered by hail netting. The chooks won’t be able to get out, and hopefully having the wire/iron dug into the ground about 300mm will prevent foxes digging in. My only worry then is if a fox will try to going up the side and realise that the hail netting isn’t wire, and that it would be relatively easy to break into. I guess the only way to find out is the hard way!
Yeehah said:
veg gardener said:
pepe said:
There will be 4 separate sections, and the chooks will be rotated through according to what’s fruiting (or finished fruiting) because I’ll plant my small fruit in a couple of the sections, e.g. black/red/white currants, blueberries etc.
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loud applause for yeehah.
finally a fellow chook rotater. !!!
very ture.
yeehah is this going to have netting over the top or just the sides with netting?
Putting this in a thread where it’s got a chance of being found!
Yes, it will have netting over the top. I’m going to be adding to my blog shortly (don’t ask for a definite time frame though!) with photos.
The essence is that the chook houses will consist of a series of polypipe hoops that are threaded over star pickets. The parallel sides will be either chicken wire or recycled roofing iron up to a height of about 1500mm then the gap will be covered by hail netting. The chooks won’t be able to get out, and hopefully having the wire/iron dug into the ground about 300mm will prevent foxes digging in. My only worry then is if a fox will try to going up the side and realise that the hail netting isn’t wire, and that it would be relatively easy to break into. I guess the only way to find out is the hard way!
veg gardener said:
It looks like a 5 strand sheep fence.
Fencing is an unpopular, slow job. No-one likes fencing – not even fencers.
To put up a good 50m long chook fence might take you a year part time. You will walk the fenceline about 100 times, so that when the fence is finished there will be this well trodden footpath around the perimeter.
I have put up lousy fences in the past and they are more of a burden than an asset. And even after all the hard slog fencing – by far the hardest, most exacting part is the gate.
If I was you veg, i would be well pleased that you have six beaut, edged garden beds ready for spring, and put the new orchard fencing into the ‘future’ category. Mind you you can always start by putting in the corner posts anytime you want.
The essence is that the chook houses will consist of a series of polypipe hoops that are threaded over star pickets. The parallel sides will be either chicken wire or recycled roofing iron up to a height of about 1500mm then the gap will be covered by hail netting. The chooks won’t be able to get out, and hopefully having the wire/iron dug into the ground about 300mm will prevent foxes digging in. My only worry then is if a fox will try to going up the side and realise that the hail netting isn’t wire, and that it would be relatively easy to break into. I guess the only way to find out is the hard way!
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One way of making a fence fox-proof is to have loose wire. When the fox or cat tries to climb their weight brings the netting back over their head and it scares them.
pepe said:
veg gardener said:
It looks like a 5 strand sheep fence.
Fencing is an unpopular, slow job. No-one likes fencing – not even fencers.
To put up a good 50m long chook fence might take you a year part time. You will walk the fenceline about 100 times, so that when the fence is finished there will be this well trodden footpath around the perimeter.
I have put up lousy fences in the past and they are more of a burden than an asset. And even after all the hard slog fencing – by far the hardest, most exacting part is the gate.
If I was you veg, i would be well pleased that you have six beaut, edged garden beds ready for spring, and put the new orchard fencing into the ‘future’ category. Mind you you can always start by putting in the corner posts anytime you want.
getting a free load of cow poo this weekend :P so i can get ready for spring.
pepe said:
The essence is that the chook houses will consist of a series of polypipe hoops that are threaded over star pickets. The parallel sides will be either chicken wire or recycled roofing iron up to a height of about 1500mm then the gap will be covered by hail netting. The chooks won’t be able to get out, and hopefully having the wire/iron dug into the ground about 300mm will prevent foxes digging in. My only worry then is if a fox will try to going up the side and realise that the hail netting isn’t wire, and that it would be relatively easy to break into. I guess the only way to find out is the hard way!
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One way of making a fence fox-proof is to have loose wire. When the fox or cat tries to climb their weight brings the netting back over their head and it scares them.
I know – that’s where I think the problem will lie.
Alright, I’ll get to work on the blog and explain it there. I was thinking of doing up some kind of illustration, but not sure how to load, say, a Word document onto the blog like I do photos. I’ll give it a whack and report in when I think there’s something worth saying.
Yeehah said:
Alright, I’ll get to work on the blog and explain it there. I was thinking of doing up some kind of illustration, but not sure how to load, say, a Word document onto the blog like I do photos. I’ll give it a whack and report in when I think there’s something worth saying.
I draw in Word; then take a screen dump (make sure everything you want to show is visible, then hold ALT and push the “Print Screen” button (normal top left of the keyboard). Then paste into Paint or whatever your favourite picture editor is. Trim the word screen off the edges and save as a JPG. easy peasy. The hardest bit is drawing it.
SueBk said:
Yeehah said:
Alright, I’ll get to work on the blog and explain it there. I was thinking of doing up some kind of illustration, but not sure how to load, say, a Word document onto the blog like I do photos. I’ll give it a whack and report in when I think there’s something worth saying.
I draw in Word; then take a screen dump (make sure everything you want to show is visible, then hold ALT and push the “Print Screen” button (normal top left of the keyboard). Then paste into Paint or whatever your favourite picture editor is. Trim the word screen off the edges and save as a JPG. easy peasy. The hardest bit is drawing it.
http://sketchup.google.com/download/
veg gardener said:
SueBk said:
Yeehah said:
Alright, I’ll get to work on the blog and explain it there. I was thinking of doing up some kind of illustration, but not sure how to load, say, a Word document onto the blog like I do photos. I’ll give it a whack and report in when I think there’s something worth saying.
I tried Sketchup. The 3D kept getting in my way. Went back to learning how to use TurboCad. Still, for quick things, like our block side view, I just use Word. If you want to draw to scale Excel is good – cause there’s not “pages” like in Word. And then when you want to print, you tell it to fit to a page, and it scales it down for you. I used to draw all my quilts with a 1inch to 1cm ratio. Now I have a you-beaut fancy quilting program to draw them in.
I draw in Word; then take a screen dump (make sure everything you want to show is visible, then hold ALT and push the “Print Screen” button (normal top left of the keyboard). Then paste into Paint or whatever your favourite picture editor is. Trim the word screen off the edges and save as a JPG. easy peasy. The hardest bit is drawing it.
download google sketch up for free draw in that then do what SueBk said and take Screenies and then paste them into paint and then load them onto Ur blog.
Suebk i use Google Skecth up pro 6 at school in graphics. also used turbocab before cant find where to download the free version of it.
i am waiting for the new Ga mag to come out as they are going to tell us a good program to do landscaping in :P
TurboCad apparently don’t offer the free version directly any more. I stumbled across it through a google search. It’s called Turbo Cad Learning Edition. It’s about two version older than any of the tutorials I found online; but I eventually worked it out enough to draw my veg plot in it.
SueBk said:
TurboCad apparently don’t offer the free version directly any more. I stumbled across it through a google search. It’s called Turbo Cad Learning Edition. It’s about two version older than any of the tutorials I found online; but I eventually worked it out enough to draw my veg plot in it.
have you still got the Install Shield?
The whatitis? Do you mean the download file? If so, yes I do. I can send it through to you if you want.
SueBk said:
The whatitis? Do you mean the download file? If so, yes I do. I can send it through to you if you want.
yes please :P thats what i ment got to talk like a geek don’t i. do you have luckys email addy? her she is now
suebk email addy is Cowboy-2201(@)hotmail(.)com
Around 7 foot high…..
VG
Try this page; about two or three down. Easier for you to download from the web than download an oversized email.
SueBk said:
VGTry this page; about two or three down. Easier for you to download from the web than download an oversized email.
what do i need to search.
http://www.freecad.com/dcd/Topsites/ this site?
veg gardener said:
http://www.freecad.com/dcd/Topsites/ this site?
That’s the one. Did I not include it in my post? DUH!
SueBk said:
veg gardener said:
http://www.freecad.com/dcd/Topsites/ this site?
That’s the one. Did I not include it in my post? DUH!
nope it wasn’t in your post.
veg gardener said:
SueBk said:
veg gardener said:
http://www.freecad.com/dcd/Topsites/ this site?
That’s the one. Did I not include it in my post? DUH!
nope it wasn’t in your post.
Sorry, was thinking about dinner; and sewing; and trying to type around a cat that alternates between sitting in her cage outside and then sitting as close as possible to nearest warm object. I’m current being dissed for the heater (first time this year its been on).
Around my food garden 6ft chainlink! Main pen 120cm with the occasional escapee – yes a wing clipped on all poultry. A good solid fence doubles as a trellis for vines – so the chainlink fence has a top rail and can support pumpkins, chokos and passionfruit without any problems.Several hubbard squashes were hanging off it earlier in the year :)
Think i have found a new supplier Of Electra net but they are over the ditch.
veg gardener said:
Think i have found a new supplier Of Electra net but they are over the ditch.
same price?
pepe said:
veg gardener said:
Think i have found a new supplier Of Electra net but they are over the ditch.
same price?
$50 more not sure about postage, sent them an email last night waiting for a reply.