Date: 19/12/2013 15:17:28
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453140
Subject: The elusive equation

People keep saying “show us the math”. Sure no worries, here it is……..

0 = 1 over the square root of -1

This is a spinor equation. I am yet to properly familiarise myself with contextual spinor theory, but this has been provided on the off chance that one of the few people who understand this area happen along…….

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:32:05
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453151
Subject: re: The elusive equation

oops, forgot to qualify,

0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1 = negative angular momentum and the square root of -1 = positive angular momentuum…..

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:36:44
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453155
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


oops, forgot to qualify,

0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1 = negative angular momentum and -1 = positive angular momentuum…..

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:37:36
From: sibeen
ID: 453156
Subject: re: The elusive equation

1/j = -j

That’s it.

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:40:19
From: diddly-squat
ID: 453159
Subject: re: The elusive equation

sibeen said:


1/j = -j

That’s it.

Orly?

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:41:33
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453161
Subject: re: The elusive equation

sibeen said:


1/j = -j

That’s it.

how did you get that from 0 = 1 over the square root of -1? I’m sure it makes sense but this is where I have to start understanding calculus efficiently…..

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:42:53
From: poikilotherm
ID: 453163
Subject: re: The elusive equation

‘Coz we all like to play equations without any prior knowledge

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:43:43
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453164
Subject: re: The elusive equation

poikilotherm said:


‘Coz we all like to play equations without any prior knowledge

step off mate, you don’t know what you are talking about here……

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:44:17
From: macx
ID: 453165
Subject: re: The elusive equation

>>>This is a spinor equation…..>>>no its not…it’s an identity!

>>> but this has been provided on the off chance that one of the few people who understand this area happen along…….>>> and yes I do!

FYI

1/j
= 1/
= 1/
= (-1)^(-1/2)
= *
= *(1/-1)
= –
= – SQRT
= -j

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

regards

macx

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:46:05
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453169
Subject: re: The elusive equation

macx said:

FYI

1/j
= 1/
= 1/
= (-1)^(-1/2)
= *
= *(1/-1)
= –
= – SQRT
= -j

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

regards

macx

you aren’t going to qualify this reference?

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:46:16
From: Dropbear
ID: 453170
Subject: re: The elusive equation

holy crap! MACX!!!

waves

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:48:13
From: OCDC
ID: 453173
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


poikilotherm said:

‘Coz we all like to play equations without any prior knowledge

step off mate, you don’t know what you are talking about here……


Well you’ve been told.

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:49:34
From: poikilotherm
ID: 453174
Subject: re: The elusive equation

OCDC said:


Riff-in-Thyme said:

poikilotherm said:

‘Coz we all like to play equations without any prior knowledge

step off mate, you don’t know what you are talking about here……


Well you’ve been told.

IKR. Seems there’s two of us then…

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:49:42
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453175
Subject: re: The elusive equation

macx said:

>>> but this has been provided on the off chance that one of the few people who understand this area happen along…….>>> and yes I do!

can you tell me a good place to start here. I was looking at the Dirac equation next and the rest of the material seems a bit obscure….

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:50:48
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453177
Subject: re: The elusive equation

OCDC said:


Riff-in-Thyme said:

poikilotherm said:

‘Coz we all like to play equations without any prior knowledge

step off mate, you don’t know what you are talking about here……


Well you’ve been told.

oh. I’m very sorry. I didn’t realise that was a link to a helpful place. Really very sorry poik. :/

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:51:16
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453178
Subject: re: The elusive equation

poikilotherm said:


OCDC said:

Riff-in-Thyme said:

step off mate, you don’t know what you are talking about here……


Well you’ve been told.

IKR. Seems there’s two of us then…

:/ sorry. people have been picking on me……

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:51:39
From: sibeen
ID: 453179
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:

how did you get that from 0 = 1 over the square root of -1?

As 0 does not equal 1 over the square root of -1, then I obviously didn’t.

1/j = -j, it’s not that difficult

1/j x j/j = j/j^2

j^2 = -1 so j/j^2 = j/-1 = -j

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:52:56
From: diddly-squat
ID: 453181
Subject: re: The elusive equation

can we stop this “j” gibber-gabber

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:53:31
From: macx
ID: 453182
Subject: re: The elusive equation

>>>you aren’t going to qualify this reference?

No requirement…it is nothing other than a trivial piece of algebra.

Here…have a read…

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Spinor

You might want to look up Dirac and Clifford Algebra to get you going.

Regards

macx

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:54:35
From: OCDC
ID: 453184
Subject: re: The elusive equation

diddly-squat said:


can we stop this “j” gibber-gabber

i see what you mean.

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:54:51
From: sibeen
ID: 453185
Subject: re: The elusive equation

diddly-squat said:

can we stop this “j” gibber-gabber

I suspect I’ve currently got support in this matter.

blows raspberry

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:55:42
From: poikilotherm
ID: 453187
Subject: re: The elusive equation

OCDC said:


diddly-squat said:

can we stop this “j” gibber-gabber

i see what you mean.

ha

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:55:54
From: macx
ID: 453188
Subject: re: The elusive equation

>>>

holy crap! MACX!!!

waves

<><><><><><><><>

Returns wave.

{does that imply a phase shift?}

:))

macx

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:56:59
From: diddly-squat
ID: 453189
Subject: re: The elusive equation

sibeen said:


diddly-squat said:

can we stop this “j” gibber-gabber

I suspect I’ve currently got support in this matter.

blows raspberry

‘currently’ – I see what you did there…

I guess I just couldn’t ‘resist’

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:58:26
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453190
Subject: re: The elusive equation

sibeen said:


Riff-in-Thyme said:

how did you get that from 0 = 1 over the square root of -1?

As 0 does not equal 1 over the square root of -1, then I obviously didn’t.

0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1=negative angular momentum and -1= positive angular momentum

the equation doesn’t measure numbers….

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Date: 19/12/2013 15:59:17
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453192
Subject: re: The elusive equation

macx said:


>>>

holy crap! MACX!!!

waves

<><><><><><><><>

Returns wave.

{does that imply a phase shift?}

:))

macx

being on this thread that is mandatory…….

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Date: 19/12/2013 16:02:34
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453199
Subject: re: The elusive equation

I gotta finish a set of stairs but I don’t wanna go back to work! I wanna study spinors. help!!! :/

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Date: 19/12/2013 16:05:05
From: macx
ID: 453202
Subject: re: The elusive equation

>>>I gotta finish a set of stairs but I don’t wanna go back to work! I wanna study spinors. help!!! :/

That’s nice.

How about starting with an understanding of elementary algebra…that would help!

macx

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Date: 19/12/2013 16:06:46
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 453204
Subject: re: The elusive equation

hi macx. good to see you still kicking.

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Date: 19/12/2013 16:11:35
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453209
Subject: re: The elusive equation

macx said:


>>>I gotta finish a set of stairs but I don’t wanna go back to work! I wanna study spinors. help!!! :/

That’s nice.

How about starting with an understanding of elementary algebra…that would help!

macx

how about you paint my stairs while I sort that out?

:P

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Date: 19/12/2013 16:12:51
From: Dropbear
ID: 453211
Subject: re: The elusive equation

macx said:


>>>I gotta finish a set of stairs but I don’t wanna go back to work! I wanna study spinors. help!!! :/

That’s nice.

How about starting with an understanding of elementary algebra…that would help!

macx

How about X goes and finds its own fucking values..

Im sick of trying to find the values for X

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Date: 19/12/2013 16:14:35
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453213
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Dropbear said:


macx said:

>>>I gotta finish a set of stairs but I don’t wanna go back to work! I wanna study spinors. help!!! :/

That’s nice.

How about starting with an understanding of elementary algebra…that would help!

macx

How about X goes and finds its own fucking values..

Im sick of trying to find the values for X

snort :)

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Date: 19/12/2013 16:51:32
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453252
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


edit required

0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1 = negative angular momentum(compression) and -1 = positive angular momentum(expansion)

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Date: 19/12/2013 20:32:27
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453472
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


Riff-in-Thyme said:

edit required

0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1 = negative angular momentum(compression/fermion vector) and -1 = positive angular momentum(expansion-something something)

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Date: 19/12/2013 20:32:55
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453475
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


Riff-in-Thyme said:

Riff-in-Thyme said:

edit required

0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1 = negative angular momentum(compression/fermion spinor vector) and -1 = positive angular momentum(expansion-something something)

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Date: 19/12/2013 22:33:42
From: wookiemeister
ID: 453545
Subject: re: The elusive equation

macx said:


>>>This is a spinor equation…..>>>no its not…it’s an identity!

>>> but this has been provided on the off chance that one of the few people who understand this area happen along…….>>> and yes I do!

FYI

1/j
= 1/
= 1/
= (-1)^(-1/2)
= *
= *(1/-1)
= –
= – SQRT
= -j

>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

regards

macx


its the ghost of Christmas past

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Date: 19/12/2013 22:39:37
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453548
Subject: re: The elusive equation

wookiemeister said:

its the ghost of Christmas past

so you are the ghost of the present?

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Date: 19/12/2013 23:02:07
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453558
Subject: re: The elusive equation

further edit…..

0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1=negative angular momentum(compression/fermion spinor vector) and -1= positive angular momentum(expansion/???) being the balance that separates the forces…..

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Date: 20/12/2013 00:56:54
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453672
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


further edit…..

0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1=negative angular momentum(compression/fermion spinor vector) and -1= positive angular momentum(expansion/???) being the balance that separates the forces…..

c = i by E, apparently……….

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Date: 20/12/2013 02:05:16
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453690
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:

c = i by E when -1 = m

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Date: 20/12/2013 08:55:00
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 453733
Subject: re: The elusive equation

the quoting function in this thread has just died of shame.

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Date: 20/12/2013 10:27:14
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453805
Subject: re: The elusive equation

So this, as I read it, is a thesis statement. I guess that makes it an application to study the subject. I don’t have to have the entire theory available when I am only making an application for permission(being confirmation of an appropriate study) to study a subject do I?

Quote Originally Posted by 3SwordBunny View Post
(E =mc^2 + ©fermion spinor = GR)

+

(0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1=negative angular momentum(compression/fermion spinor vector) and -1= positive angular momentum(expansion(m)) being the balance that separates the forces….. or,

c = i by E(when -1 = m) = SR + m spinor)

=

united theory…..
which more, do I need?

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Date: 20/12/2013 10:35:38
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453810
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


So this, as I read it, is a thesis statement. I guess that makes it an application to study the subject. I don’t have to have the entire theory available when I am only making an application for permission(being confirmation of an appropriate study) to study a subject do I?

Quote Originally Posted by 3SwordBunny View Post
(E =mc^2 + ©fermion spinor = GR)

+

(0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1=negative angular momentum(compression/fermion spinor vector) and -1= positive angular momentum(expansion(m)) being the balance that separates the forces….. or,

c = i by E(when -1 = m) + m spinor = SR)

=

united theory…..
which more, do I need?

fixed

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Date: 20/12/2013 10:56:56
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453825
Subject: re: The elusive equation

final edit….

(E =mc^2 + c(-AM)fermion spinor) = GR)

+

(0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1=negative angular momentum(compression/fermion spinor vector) and -1= positive angular momentum(expansion(m)) being the indivisibles of angular momentum expression that separates the forces….. or,

c = i by E(when -1 = m) + m(+AM spinor) = SR)

=

united theory…..

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Date: 20/12/2013 11:19:23
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453838
Subject: re: The elusive equation

what more do I need to show to have this accepted as a thesis?

Quote Originally Posted by 3SwordBunny View Post

(E =mc^2 + ©fermion spinor = GR)

+

(0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1=negative angular momentum(compression/fermion spinor vector) and -1= positive angular momentum(expansion(m)) being the indivisible angular momentum expressions that separates the forces….. or,

c = i by E(when -1 = m) + m spinor = SR)

=

united theory…..

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Date: 20/12/2013 11:23:49
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453841
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


what more do I need to show to have this accepted as a thesis statement?

Quote Originally Posted by 3SwordBunny View Post

(E =mc^2 + ©fermion spinor = GR)

+

(0 = 1 over the square root of -1, when 1=negative angular momentum(compression/fermion spinor vector) and -1= positive angular momentum(expansion(m)) being the indivisible angular momentum expressions that separates the forces….. or,

c = i by E(when -1 = m) + m spinor = SR)

=

unified theory…..

final fix

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Date: 20/12/2013 11:28:28
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453844
Subject: re: The elusive equation

http://www.thephysicsforum.com/special-general-relativity/5130-unifying-gr-sr.html#post9262

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Date: 20/12/2013 12:10:35
From: transition
ID: 453853
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Near qualified to do that quote for the painting job now are we :)

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Date: 20/12/2013 12:39:16
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453859
Subject: re: The elusive equation

transition said:


Near qualified to do that quote for the painting job now are we :)

I don’t quote on jobs anymore. I only do painting as a favor to mates. That way I do the job the way it is supposed to be done and I don’t have to give a crap about money related time restraints……

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Date: 20/12/2013 12:55:49
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453863
Subject: re: The elusive equation

did you know…..

that the rule, i before E except after c, works better as a law of physics than one of English?

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Date: 20/12/2013 12:56:33
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 453864
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


did you know…..

that the rule, i before E except after c, works better as a law of physics than one of English?

only when -1 = m, of course….

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Date: 20/12/2013 14:05:18
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 453870
Subject: re: The elusive equation

give it up mate. go seek some help.

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Date: 20/12/2013 14:11:30
From: macx
ID: 453873
Subject: re: The elusive equation

>>>give it up mate. go seek some help.

+1

macx

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Date: 20/12/2013 14:24:11
From: party_pants
ID: 453874
Subject: re: The elusive equation

I don’t even understand what this thread is all about.

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Date: 20/12/2013 14:24:16
From: diddly-squat
ID: 453875
Subject: re: The elusive equation

ChrispenEvan said:


give it up mate. go seek some help.

it’s not just that… it’s understanding that coming up with a theory of gravity is more than just writing out a few nonsense ‘definitions’ and saying that “0 = 1 over the square root of -1”

Riff I’ve read back few a bit of your stuff and I can see you are not Zarkov, but mate, if you really want to understand this stuff (and I mean if you really want to pursue study in theoretical physics) then you are going to have to go back to the beginning and essentially start from high school level.

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Date: 20/12/2013 15:06:34
From: sibeen
ID: 453877
Subject: re: The elusive equation

party_pants said:


I don’t even understand what this thread is all about.

Mainly about diddly not playing his part as one of the fraternity of engineers!

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:02:09
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454231
Subject: re: The elusive equation

diddly-squat said:


ChrispenEvan said:

give it up mate. go seek some help.

it’s not just that… it’s understanding that coming up with a theory of gravity is more than just writing out a few nonsense ‘definitions’ and saying that “0 = 1 over the square root of -1”

Riff I’ve read back few a bit of your stuff and I can see you are not Zarkov, but mate, if you really want to understand this stuff (and I mean if you really want to pursue study in theoretical physics) then you are going to have to go back to the beginning and essentially start from high school level.

yep, aahh ta? I think KJW might help where I’m missing stuff tweedles…..

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:08:06
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 454235
Subject: re: The elusive equation

I think KJW might help where I’m missing stuff tweedles…..

judging from what i have read on other science forums i don’t think you have anything that anybody can help you with. this includes KJW.

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:10:41
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454241
Subject: re: The elusive equation

ChrispenEvan said:


I think KJW might help where I’m missing stuff tweedles…..

judging from what i have read on other science forums i don’t think you have anything that anybody can help you with. this includes KJW.

you get my private messages do you?

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:11:47
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 454243
Subject: re: The elusive equation

no. i read what people who actually know maths and science. you don’t have a clue.

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:14:20
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454248
Subject: re: The elusive equation

let me say something here that would get me chastised there. you do not know where I have been, where I am coming from, or when I might be coming, if that is what I chose to do. come onto my threads and you’ll be tipped off time and time again. This ain’t no fair carpet ride little lassy

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:14:53
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454250
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


let me say something here that would get me chastised there. you do not know where I have been, where I am coming from, or when I might be coming, if that is what I chose to do. come onto my threads and you’ll be tipped off time and time again. This ain’t no fairy carpet ride little lassy

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:16:57
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 454253
Subject: re: The elusive equation

you have a mental problem. shit others who have only known you for a few days have pointed that out. you stupid threats mean nothing to me. you have not a clue what you are doing. you don’t know maths you don’t know science. and every time you post one of your puerile threads i will comment.

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:17:49
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454254
Subject: re: The elusive equation

ChrispenEvan said:


you have a mental problem. shit others who have only known you for a few days have pointed that out. you stupid threats mean nothing to me. you have not a clue what you are doing. you don’t know maths you don’t know science. and every time you post one of your puerile threads i will comment.

good. There will be comic relief…..

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:19:34
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 454257
Subject: re: The elusive equation

you are the one everyone is laughing at.

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:21:07
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454259
Subject: re: The elusive equation

ChrispenEvan said:


you are the one everyone is laughing at.

what is wrong with that? isn’t it the best exercise to what you aren’t getting?

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:22:15
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 454261
Subject: re: The elusive equation

i prefer to have people laugh with me….but you aren’t normal so i guess normal rules don’t apply.

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:25:05
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454267
Subject: re: The elusive equation

ChrispenEvan said:


i prefer to have people laugh with me….but you aren’t normal so i guess normal rules don’t apply.

Yeah I have a pretty good guide for normal going. Your concerns are noted, I won’t stray far enough off that to get lost up my own butthole. I know cause I’ve tried even without the guide and I just can’t get there. anything else you “NEEEEEED” me to know?

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:27:13
From: ChrispenEvan
ID: 454269
Subject: re: The elusive equation

nah, you can go now. remember i’ll be here to point out your rubbish whenever you post it.

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Date: 20/12/2013 23:28:11
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454271
Subject: re: The elusive equation

ChrispenEvan said:


nah, you can go now. remember i’ll be here to point out your rubbish whenever you post it.

I just vacuumed….

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Date: 21/12/2013 06:14:00
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454433
Subject: re: The elusive equation

gee. ask what the torque covariant/efficient between the expansionof space and terminal velocity is and you get told you are discussing your own ideas and not following instruction. Anyone here who can show me how to put that sum together? They obviously think they are too clever for me over there at the moment….

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Date: 21/12/2013 06:34:24
From: Riff-in-Thyme
ID: 454434
Subject: re: The elusive equation

Riff-in-Thyme said:


gee. ask what the torque covariant/efficient between the expansionof space and terminal velocity is and you get told you are discussing your own ideas and not following instruction. Anyone here who can show me how to put that sum together? They obviously think they are too clever for me over there at the moment….

i’ve only been trying to say that the covariant is E = mc^2 and the co-efficient is c = i(E) when -1 = m

is that right?

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