Date: 26/12/2013 00:41:01
From: mollwollfumble
ID: 458099
Subject: The science of 20,000 leagues?

Am reading Jules Verne 20,000 leagues under the sea.Jules Verne, writing in 1865-9, was writing only a couple of years after the first mechanically powered submarine (in 1863). Edison’s first successful test of the electric light bulb was over a decade later, in 1879. To propose a submarine 70 m long (he initially suggested a longer 350 ft) powered by electricity was truly visionary.

Are the following scientific claims true or false?

Loin of sea turtle is a red meat.
Dolphin liver, correctly cooked, can resemble stewed pork.
Cream from the milk from the udders of cetaceans is good to eat.
Sugar can be made from huge fucus plants under the North Sea.
Good marmalade can be made from sea anenomies.
Clothing can be made from the fibres that anchor some sea shells in place.
Purple comes from the murex snail and violet from the Mediterranean sea hare.
Perfumes can be made from the oozings of marine plants.
You could write using squid ink, with a pen made from whalebone.
The animals of the sea include 4 zoophyte groups, 3 classes of articulates, 5 classes of mollusks and 3 vertebrate classes (mammal, reptiles and fish).
There are over 13,000 species of fish, of which only 10% live in fresh water.
A good tobacco can be made from nicotine-rich seaweed.
Arago was the greatest French scientist prior to 1865.
The giant clam can grow up to six metres in circumference.
The largest pearls are bigger than a pigeon egg.
Sodium, contained in an amalgam of mercury, makes a battery twice as good as a zinc battery.
A submarine capable of mining undersea coal (or oil) can be made permanently self-sustaining.
A 70 m long submarine with a 6 metre diameter propeller running at 120 rpm could do 50 mph.

Scientist-authors mentioned include Humboldt, Arago, Foucalt, Henri Saint-Claire Deville, Chasles, Milne-Edwards, Quatrefages, John Tindall, Faraday, Berthelot, Father Secchi, Petermann, Commander Maury, Louis Agassiz.Of those, I’m only familiar with Humboldt, Foucalt & Faraday. What did the others do?

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Date: 26/12/2013 00:46:07
From: 3SwordBunny
ID: 458100
Subject: re: The science of 20,000 leagues?

Nemo was my favorite captain till……. I think Piccard kinda tops him but mostly cause he is just such a gent. :)

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Date: 26/12/2013 00:54:35
From: 3SwordBunny
ID: 458103
Subject: re: The science of 20,000 leagues?

actually, I can imagine a take on that script with Piccard sitting quietly composed and reading a book, maybe Blake or Tolstoy, while his nautilus mercilessly destroys trading vessels in shipping lanes…..

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Date: 26/12/2013 11:22:49
From: wookiemeister
ID: 458169
Subject: re: The science of 20,000 leagues?

Did you know that “ nemo” of captain nemo means “no one”/ “no man” in Latin.

The captain never told the visitor his real name

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Date: 26/12/2013 11:25:58
From: 3SwordBunny
ID: 458170
Subject: re: The science of 20,000 leagues?

wookiemeister said:


Did you know that “ nemo” of captain nemo means “no one”/ “no man” in Latin.

The captain never told the visitor his real name

that kinda belongs on the “Did You Knoes?” thread……..

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Date: 26/12/2013 11:33:21
From: 3SwordBunny
ID: 458172
Subject: re: The science of 20,000 leagues?

3SwordBunny said:


wookiemeister said:

Did you know that “ nemo” of captain nemo means “no one”/ “no man” in Latin.

The captain never told the visitor his real name

that kinda belongs on the “Did You Knoes?” thread……..

……. tanks for da ‘eminda’s……

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Date: 26/12/2013 11:37:39
From: wookiemeister
ID: 458173
Subject: re: The science of 20,000 leagues?

No relevant to the thread , captain nemo etc

I’ve scanned through the book before

An interesting point , the sub’s buoyancy is relatively unchanged if density of the water remains constant , even in the depths. Liquids are virtually incompressible – it’s why hydraulics work.

When I mentioned this , there were the usual howls that I didn’t know what I was talking about until I found some graph of density versus depth and the density changes about four fifths if fuck all.

The beauty if a sub is the man inside doesn’t need to worry about the bends , he is always at atmospheric pressure. Oh yes, no sea sickness either, unless you are on the surface and stationary .

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Date: 26/12/2013 11:39:09
From: 3SwordBunny
ID: 458175
Subject: re: The science of 20,000 leagues?

wookiemeister said:


No relevant to the thread , captain nemo etc

taken care of. I did say “kinda”. as you were. Good material as always.

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