Dogs have been with us humans since we were hunter gatherers, they would help in our hunts, then hang around and beg for food, and work their way in towards the fire. I suspect they have always been protective of human infants, I had a Fox Terrier that kept me safe as a toddeler, do others have stories of their dog protectors?
About 15 years ago, we had a dog named Patchie. She was Irish Terrier x bitzer. Around this time, mum was experiencing severe migraines with hallucinations. She slept a lot but wasn’t always coherent when she was awake. I was studying full time at TAFE so was away from home all day. A few times (more than I care to remember, actually), mum would fall asleep after lighting a cigarette or after putting the keelt (back when we had a kettle that didn’t switch off automatically after boiling, it would just boil dry). Every time mum did this, Patchie would wake mum before disaster happened.
They’re affectionate company but can be very demanding of time and attention. With some dogs it’s like being lumbered with a retarded child you have to look after all the time. I’m too self-centred to be a dog man.
Which prompts the question D A, how did the dog know this was potentially dangerous?
Vaping 16mg “Dunhill” with one of the 2nd-generation cleanable Clearomizers that arrived today. Produces cumulus clouds of vapour, so I’ll have to be careful not to overdo it :)
But if these things don’t help shift the FAT over the next couple of months, I’m packing the vaping in. Can’t really blame them for lack of progress over the festive season though.
Sorry that was for chat :)
Bubblecar said:
Sorry that was for chat :)
Thank God for that, I thought I had lost the plot.
No idea, but I’m glad the survival instinct kicked in :)
A friend of mine who has diabetes has a dog that can detect if his blood sugar is out of range and will alert him. IIRC this is particularly useful at night.
When we think of a particular dog we think of a visual image of it. Dogs probably think of their owners more as a complicated pattern of smells.
morrie said:
A friend of mine who has diabetes has a dog that can detect if his blood sugar is out of range and will alert him. IIRC this is particularly useful at night.
How the f*ck can they detect what ever it is they detect, epileptic sciesures is another they are good at.
bob(from black rock) said:
morrie said:
A friend of mine who has diabetes has a dog that can detect if his blood sugar is out of range and will alert him. IIRC this is particularly useful at night.
How the f*ck can they detect what ever it is they detect, epileptic sciesures is another they are good at.
Cancer too, apparently.
Bubblecar said:
bob(from black rock) said:
morrie said:
A friend of mine who has diabetes has a dog that can detect if his blood sugar is out of range and will alert him. IIRC this is particularly useful at night.
How the f*ck can they detect what ever it is they detect, epileptic sciesures is another they are good at.
Cancer too, apparently.
yeah very common trick quite a lot of them have.
bob(from black rock) said:
Bubblecar said:
bob(from black rock) said:How the f*ck can they detect what ever it is they detect, epileptic sciesures is another they are good at.
Cancer too, apparently.
yeah very common trick quite a lot of them have.
not so much trickery as awareness and sensitivity to changes we can’t (or don’t) detect.
bob(from black rock) said:
Which prompts the question D A, how did the dog know this was potentially dangerous?
Dogs are very much in tune with routine. The normal tea-making routine was broken, and then strange noises started coming from the kettle.
bob(from black rock) said:
morrie said:
A friend of mine who has diabetes has a dog that can detect if his blood sugar is out of range and will alert him. IIRC this is particularly useful at night.
How the f*ck can they detect what ever it is they detect, epileptic sciesures is another they are good at.
The circulatory system gets everywhere in the body. There is a brilliant blood/air chemical exchange system in the lungs and a larger one called skin. Anything that goes on in the body (cancer, chemical imbalances, emotional) leaves its chemical signature in our breath and general body aroma. Dogs in particular have between 100,000 and 1,000,000 times better sense of smell than we humans do meaning they can smell whatever is going on in our body.
Humans are working towards replicating the dog’s nose with what they call a “lab on a chip” (pun not intended) which can give an all-over physical checkup by breathing into a machine.
They can also detect the area where the cancer is.
Divine Angel said:
They can also detect the area where the cancer is.
Pity they can’t bite it out for you.
Carmen_Sandiego said:
Humans are working towards replicating the dog’s nose with what they call a “lab on a chip” (pun not intended) which can give an all-over physical checkup by breathing into a machine.
that is bloody brilliant
Carmen_Sandiego said:
bob(from black rock) said:
morrie said:
A friend of mine who has diabetes has a dog that can detect if his blood sugar is out of range and will alert him. IIRC this is particularly useful at night.
How the f*ck can they detect what ever it is they detect, epileptic sciesures is another they are good at.
The circulatory system gets everywhere in the body. There is a brilliant blood/air chemical exchange system in the lungs and a larger one called skin. Anything that goes on in the body (cancer, chemical imbalances, emotional) leaves its chemical signature in our breath and general body aroma. Dogs in particular have between 100,000 and 1,000,000 times better sense of smell than we humans do meaning they can smell whatever is going on in our body.
Humans are working towards replicating the dog’s nose with what they call a “lab on a chip” (pun not intended) which can give an all-over physical checkup by breathing into a machine.
Bubblecar said:
Divine Angel said:
They can also detect the area where the cancer is.
Pity they can’t bite it out for you.
Arts said:
Carmen_Sandiego said:Humans are working towards replicating the dog’s nose with what they call a “lab on a chip” (pun not intended) which can give an all-over physical checkup by breathing into a machine.
that is bloody brilliant
Yeah, the technology is all there, we just need to know which chemicals are associated with what illness.
I saw a TV show a couple of years ago that was following the achievements of a guy training dogs to sniff out cancer in patients. People would breath through a short cardboard tube and 4 samples (one from a known breast cancer sufferer) were placed in a room and a dog lead in by its handler (who didn’t know which sample was which) and the dog pretty much ran over to the positive sample every time. It was running at near enough to 100% accuracy for weeks, and then overnight it just lost the ‘skill’ and was picking them at only 25% accuracy which was no better than random.
The show made it obvious that dogs have great ability, but are not always to be trusted.
Carmen_Sandiego said:
Arts said:
Carmen_Sandiego said:Humans are working towards replicating the dog’s nose with what they call a “lab on a chip” (pun not intended) which can give an all-over physical checkup by breathing into a machine.
that is bloody brilliant
Yeah, the technology is all there, we just need to know which chemicals are associated with what illness.
I saw a TV show a couple of years ago that was following the achievements of a guy training dogs to sniff out cancer in patients. People would breath through a short cardboard tube and 4 samples (one from a known breast cancer sufferer) were placed in a room and a dog lead in by its handler (who didn’t know which sample was which) and the dog pretty much ran over to the positive sample every time. It was running at near enough to 100% accuracy for weeks, and then overnight it just lost the ‘skill’ and was picking them at only 25% accuracy which was no better than random.
The show made it obvious that dogs have great ability, but are not always to be trusted.
The same might be said of the medical profession.
Carmen_Sandiego said:
Arts said:
Carmen_Sandiego said:Humans are working towards replicating the dog’s nose with what they call a “lab on a chip” (pun not intended) which can give an all-over physical checkup by breathing into a machine.
that is bloody brilliant
Yeah, the technology is all there, we just need to know which chemicals are associated with what illness.
I saw a TV show a couple of years ago that was following the achievements of a guy training dogs to sniff out cancer in patients. People would breath through a short cardboard tube and 4 samples (one from a known breast cancer sufferer) were placed in a room and a dog lead in by its handler (who didn’t know which sample was which) and the dog pretty much ran over to the positive sample every time. It was running at near enough to 100% accuracy for weeks, and then overnight it just lost the ‘skill’ and was picking them at only 25% accuracy which was no better than random.
The show made it obvious that dogs have great ability, but are not always to be trusted.
In a weekend magazine there was an article about an elderly women mauled to death by her dogs. The article said abuse wasn’t a factor as she loved and doted on her pets. A bit of abuse might have been the way to go. I bet she fawned on them so much that one decided that it was the pack leader and something set it off to discipline the old lady and the other one joined in.
Skunkworks said:
In a weekend magazine there was an article about an elderly women mauled to death by her dogs. The article said abuse wasn’t a factor as she loved and doted on her pets. A bit of abuse might have been the way to go. I bet she fawned on them so much that one decided that it was the pack leader and something set it off to discipline the old lady and the other one joined in.
Sure enough
Tamb said:
Or she died & the dogs got hungry.
Nahhh, wasn’t an eating thing.
Skunkworks said:
Tamb said:
Or she died & the dogs got hungry.Nahhh, wasn’t an eating thing.
Tamb said:
Skunkworks said:
Tamb said:
Or she died & the dogs got hungry.Nahhh, wasn’t an eating thing.
OK but I’ve heard of it happening with cats.
No doubt, pets trapped in houses with dead owners eat them eventually, but these dogs were well looked after and fed and it was an overnight thing. The coroner said she was pulled out of her bed, maybe a dog jumped up on it, she chastised it and the dog thought bugger this for a joke I am sleeping here, like it or not.
My sister had to have her last dog put down ( a Rhodesian Ridgeback) because despite all attempts (including professional training), it failed to recognise her as the boss. Was getting more dangerously uppity all the time.
Bubblecar said:
My sister had to have her last dog put down ( a Rhodesian Ridgeback) because despite all attempts (including professional training), it failed to recognise her as the boss. Was getting more dangerously uppity all the time.
Not really a dog you want getting uppity at you.
Carmen_Sandiego said:
“lab on a chip” (pun not intended)
I find that hard to believe :)
The Rev Dodgson said:
Carmen_Sandiego said:“lab on a chip” (pun not intended)
I find that hard to believe :)
Just wait for the “Cat (scan) in a hat”.
Carmen_Sandiego said:
The Rev Dodgson said:
Carmen_Sandiego said:“lab on a chip” (pun not intended)
I find that hard to believe :)
Just wait for the “Cat (scan) in a hat”.
http://www.cookyourpet.com/frames_intro.htm
dogs think there part of the human pack. there instinct is to protect the pack :)
robadob said:
dogs think there part of the human pack. there instinct is to protect the pack :)
there exist humans with this mindset.
I’m not convinced by this story, but some researchers think that dogs can detect magnetic fields
>They’re affectionate company but can be very demanding of time and attention. With some dogs it’s like being lumbered with a retarded child you have to look after all the time. I’m too self-centred to be a dog man.
Sympathies to your parents, or late parents whatever the situation is or were. Being lighthearted there, is all :).
And no, not all dogs are demanding. My little fella is very effactionate but not super social, well not nitro supercharged ‘social’, undemanding by any standard. The previous dog were a border collie, and in restrospect if I could go back i’d probably encourage of self, kids etc not to elicit (patterned) excesssive responsiveness to humans. The dog had epilepsy also, so tended to fit more when tired, from maybe two years of age.
In a way the old idea you may hear from say a farmer or truck driver that kids (playing with) mess working dogs up is correct, but i’d add qualifications to that.
I think dogs can comfortably tend in energy conservation mode a lot, still of course need adequate exercise, but tend to let you know as they want and require it.
I think it a mistake to upregulate sociability in dogs, to tend responsivenesss for human ‘entertainment’. But that is what humans can be like, too much is about entertainment.
Point being that if you impose on a dog with expectations of great responsiveness, they may be more demanding of their friend, and as it happens they may not naturally be supercharged responsive anyway, and I ask when is a creature happiest, or more to the point what provides for the greatest quality time involving an absence of discontent.
bob(from black rock) said:
Bubblecar said:
Sorry that was for chat :)
Thank God for that, I thought I had lost the plot.
:)